UEFA EURO 2016

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  1. frederic38

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    i never suported france in my life, except when i was very young because the tournament was held in france and everybody was supporting france, and even then my father was against france
    you on the other hand have insulted and disrespected white athletes who have been amongst the best in the history of the game by saying that france was only ever good because of algerian players, and right now you refuse to support griezmann who is one of the top 5 players in the world at this moment for sure

    islam makes you say really dumb things
     
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  2. frederic38

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    you have said that mahrez the algerian was better than any player on the french team
    so mahrez is better than griezmann?
    mahrez, arab muslim, who has only been doing well for 1 season, in the premier league, has never played champions league
    griezmann, the white french player, younger, more promising, who has won the best league in the world, reached 2 champions league finals, and just became the best player of these euro champs, who has succeeded in spain for a much longer time

    so in your mind mahrez is better than griezmann?
    it's no longer a matter of respecting the purpose of the site, it's a matter of not being insane
     
  3. Lisa D return

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    We have a word for you too: renegade.
    You are more supporting Muslim athletes than White athletes.
    Plus, we don't hate Black players, we support White players. See the difference.
     
  4. Rebajlo

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    So, after 22 pages and 528 posts - the majority of which ridiculed those laughably substandard Negroes - what exactly did we end up with? A final contested between ******* France and Portugal, in which twelve of the twenty two starters were non-White. Once the part-gypsy Ricardo Quaresma came on for the injured Cristiano Ronaldo after a mere 25 minutes, thirteen of the players on the field were non-White. What a ******* “showcase” of White talent...

    Eder scored the only goal of the match and is now featuring in news reports worldwide - as is Antoine Griezmann, who missed an astonishingly easy header while unmarked after the Negro Kingsley Coman had teed him up perfectly.

    As I said earlier in the thread - as well as in the aftermath of the last World Cup - we begin to look like whining knobs pushing a lost cause when all-White or almost-all-White sides are continually beaten by heavily or substantially black / non-White sides. If teams full of blacks regularly progress to the latter stages of the major tournaments then nobody can complain if the media and fans subsequently praise the Negro players involved. Sport is all about the end result and - unfortunately - most of the Euro 2016 results weren’t too pretty. Before anyone begins spitting chips, let me just say that my statements aren’t “negative” - they’re simply an impartial acknowledgement of stone cold reality.

    Only two of the eight quarterfinalists (Poland and Iceland) had all-White squads. Italy’s squad included the black Angelo Ogbonna and the half-Arab Stephan El Shaarawy, both of whom were used in the final group match against the Republic of Ireland.

    Repeatedly emphasising that France had an “easy” path to the final is all nice and dandy but here’s the thing: France got to the final while the so-called big “White” teams did not. France beat Germany…who had eliminated Italy…who had in turn beaten Spain. That’s the nature of tournament play so one cannot manufacture a plausible excuse there…

    The very black Portugal may have squirmed out of the group stage as a third-placed team and may only have won one match in regulation time…but they did get past everyone else to lift the trophy - and that’s what counts. Nobody managed to beat Portugal and history remembers winners. Only a deluded fool would even contemplate arguing otherwise…

    This big vat of steaming **** completes a season horribilis for European football. Here are some of the “highlights”:

    A Real Madrid team starting three blacks, an Arab, and a mestizo won the European Cup (sorry - Champions League…).

    Leicester City sprang one of the greatest upsets in English football history by winning the Premier League - the problem being that they usually started something like three blacks, an Arab, and an Asian...

    Manchester United beat Crystal Palace in the FA Cup final, which featured a total of ten non-White starters - six of whom turned out for United.

    Bayern Munich seemed to become less White by the minute - and have just signed Renato Sanches for next season.

    To say that I’m pissed off is an understatement and a half…
     
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  5. frederic38

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    say what you want about the english league rebajlo, but the champions league final was won by a team with zero european blacks, zero african blacks, only a few south american mixed players and the usual arab marketing player, against an all white spanish team, in the penalties so it could have been atletico madrid winning too
    the spanish league (best league in the world) was also won by a team without a single african black or european black in the whole squad
    white europeans + south americans are dominating soccer
     
  6. frederic38

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    "If teams full of blacks regularly progress to the latter stages of the major tournaments then nobody can complain if the media and fans subsequently praise the Negro players involved"

    so if say france is very good with pogba having not much importance in the team, then it is only normal that he becomes the most expensive player ever? lol
    you have to praise the players according to what they have actually done
     
  7. ThePhilosopher

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    Rebaljo,we're all pissed off.I'm sure you noticed the tone of abject dejection when I posted Eder's goal.Also just above that post,I did post a link to Griezmann's miss and termed it a "Golden opportunity".The reason I didn't give that miss the treatment I give to "horrid misses by black attackers" is because I believed Griezmann would make amends and score later.But I was wrong.

    And like you said only a deluded fool with contemplate arguing otherwise with most,if not all of your above arguments.In the end its clear that Portugal won the competition fair and square.And when I talk about draws and pools and brackets and what not it,I only mention them as a caveat and not as an excuse,because at the end of the day,you can only beat what's in front of you and like you said France beat Germany,again fair and square,so what's to complain?Also,its the same when I mention that teams are missing crucial players;its only to provide some perspective and not to claim any injustice to a certain team or to make excuses on their behalf,because injuries are a part of the sport,much like suspensions.Okay,Italy lost two entire midfields and had to field Sturaro and Parolo(who the hell are these two guys?) and Germany effectively lost half the spine of their team in Hummels and Gomez,but again,that's no excuse to not deliver.

    This tournament has been a disaster of epic proportions,and it had been coming for a while now.It sucks that Spain which has enough talent to field three teams of top quality fields a team which is soon becoming something of a joke.It sucks that a no name Eder did for Cristiano Ronaldo what Higuain has failed to do twice now for Messi,despite the chances that were presented to him.It sucks that half the goalkeepers in this tournament(who were all white mind you) played like amateurs.Except the two in the final and Buffon and maybe Sommer(Switzerland),Fabianski,who else can go home with their head held high?

    And regarding your highlights package,here are some more things to add:

    A Black player is all set to become the costliest Football player of all time.
    The costliest defender of all time is already a black - the "Frenchman" Mangala.
    The third costliest attacker/player of all time is a black(Martial) and sooner or later they will find some black who can run fast enough to justify spunking 100+ million upon.

    And finally you are right about Bayern.They're set to have five black starters next season - Boateng,Alaba,Coman,Douglas Costa and counting one of Thiago/Sanches.This is disaster for Football,and this is before I even say the word "English".Yes,we have some dark times ahead.This is what I am trying to desperately explain to Frederic.Griezmann may have truly been the best player of tournament,but unless he bags the next Ballon D'or I don't think a few years down the line anyone will think much of him,atleast in the anglosphere.

    He may never get the praise reserved for Ronaldo/Messi but I can bet you that Pogba will,save for a Balotelli like implosion,Pogba will be remembered as the finest footballers of this generation.It no longer matters what the truth is.All that matters is which side of the jew are you on?
     
  8. Lisa D return

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    I think your appreciation of the tournament is superficial and leads you to false conclusions.
    Pogba has done a bad tornament and his image didn't improve. Just one example: before the Cup, the most sold shirt in France was the one of Griezmann and at the second place, the one of Pogba. During the Cup, more than 3/4 quarters of the sold shirts were with the name Griezmann, "un vrai engouement", and Pogba was far behind, Payet being number 2 instead of him.
    Giroud Payet Griezmann scored every goals for the French team, except one for Pogba (12 out of 13).

    Mangala was so bad during training that Deschamps didn't make him play the games.
     
  9. frederic38

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    mangala during this tournament became the 6th central defender in the pecking order
    varane and sakho were called, then injured and suspended
    then they were replaced by koscielny and rami
    then when rami was suspended umtiti started playing
    that makes mangala the 6th defender for france, meaning that it is impossible for him to play unless the whole team dies in an accident
     
  10. frederic38

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    the situation at bayern munich is pretty sad
    however, they got hummels, wo will most likely put the arab defender they had on the bench
     
  11. ThePhilosopher

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    My perspective is that of an Englishman,someone doomed to only ever speak one language,English.If that is superficial,fair enough.Trust me,I wish to be wrong.But please read this :

    [Di Marzio] Manchester United ready to offer 120m € for Pogba to Juventus and 13m/year to the player

    I think we can agree Di Marizio knows his stuff.And like Rebaljo says if a black player becomes the world's most expensive player of all time(and justifiably,if I may add,in the eyes of Football club owners,Sponsors,Fans/DWFs,"Experts"....basically everyone but us "knobs") what is the impression that the people get?How can we argue otherwise,if this is(and it is) becoming a regular phenomenon.

    Mangala's been a joke ever since he shinned one past Joe Hart against Hull or someone a couple of years back.I'll give you that one.Here,I even dug up the relevant gif(man,those were the days when we posted these all over the forum):

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    With all due due respect Miss,we've all seen this all too often.I can dig up post after post of Frederic bemoaning the same.Posts from him about how the blacks/brazilians acted like WC 2014 never happened.We've all seen how it is the white and whites alone who perform every single time and yet nothing changes,and if anything things worsen.Griezmann's on top of the world now,but this euphoria won't carry on for too long and if he doesn't get the Ballon D'Or,all he'll have to show for all of this will be a Silver medal.And this just keeps ringing in my ears:

    22 pages of laughing on blacks and 22 pages of showmanship of superior white ability.And we end up with this.And this sense of defeat after we narrowly missed the ignominy of having to celebrate the "French" as Euro Champions.I don't know how long you've been in this game,but for those who've lost years posting here there is nothing to salvage out of this tournament,except again a Ballon D'Or for Griezmann.I will truly celebrate then and eat my words as well.
     
  12. ThePhilosopher

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    Your accidentally hilarious English does make for some great jokes.:risas3:

    Benatia has been sold to Juventus.
     
  13. frederic38

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    this post, from this thread, was a pretty accurate description of the french national team at this tournament and what to expect from them, i think:

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    i am worried about this tournament because france has everything needed to win or at least they will be very hard to beat

    a good goalkeeper is very important for this kind of tournament, a flawless one, and lloris is the best in the world with neuer unless he has forgotten what football is after spending years in the premier league
    then france has offensive players of very good level, griezmann and giroud (3 goals in the last 2 games, and like 5 in the last 5 games) , after having benzema for years (worst player in the history of the euro champs in both minutes without a goal and shots without a goal in the competition, over 2 tournaments) this will be a big change
    and payet who is i think half indian and then some strange typical reunionais mix and not black will be very dangerous, he is one of the best free kick takers right now


    and to think that we had to suffer nasri and ben arfa over decades, instead of this kind of offensive midfielder, lol


    a traditional weak point of black france is on corner kicks, free kicks etc, since blacks can't head the ball
    for example at the latest world cup we lost against germany because of a header from a free kick, and it was fully expected because our best headers are giroud (best in the world in this area, he can both defend and score on free kicks and corner kicks) and koscielny and they didn't start in that match
    but now that giroud and koscielny will probably start, this weak point is less obvious

    in the midfield expect relentless fouls from cabaye, kante, matuidi, pogba etc
    pogba was supposed to be this crazy playmaker and he did nothing in that position, but when he has the referee on his side (and it's likely to happen sincefrance plays at home) he is unplayable because he makes fouls very often and plays with his elbows very high, in the face of the opponents
    to pass the ball in midfield the player will be cabaye (1/4 asian, considered white in that context :p)

    then france has the worst pair of fullbacks in the world with evra and sagna
    i hope both will start and other teams will use that to their advantage
    and they will likely have a black clownish defender that can cost them a match at any moment"
     
  14. Jack Lambert

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    It's all happened after Jupp Heynckes retired after the 2013 season, and Pep took over. He sold Kroos and Schweinsteiger, and put Gotze on the bench. That doesn't even mention him buying a ton of non-whites to replace Robben, Ribery, etc. The only good purchase he's made has been Lewandowski.

    Bayern used to be one of the most reliably white-friendly teams in Europe, and also used to play 6 or so Germans. At least Dortmund is still very white, and will be back in the Champions' League.
     
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    "Benatia has been sold to Juventus."

    so that's 1 white player more compared with last season
    a long way to go until the brazilians are the only non whites in the team though
     
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    In some better news, I was looking at the first two matches of the UEFA U19 Euro Championships which were played today. In a strange twist, they're actually well, European!! Of the first two matches today, Austria drew against Portugal, and Italy beat Germany on a handball penalty late in the game. Italy and Austria both played all-white teams, Portugal started 10 whites (finished with 8) and Germany started 9 whites (finished with 10)! Hopefully, these teams will be reflective of their countries' futures.

    Edit: It looks like I might have spoken too soon; the three diverse teams in the tournament (the Netherlands, England, and France) are all in Group B along with Croatia. I guess we'll see what those three trot out tomorrow.
     
  17. frederic38

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    "This is what I am trying to desperately explain to Frederic.Griezmann may have truly been the best player of tournament,but unless he bags the next Ballon D'or I don't think a few years down the line anyone will think much of him,atleast in the anglosphere."

    you are under estimating griezmann's marketability
    he plays for a chinese owned club, looks good etc
    he has everything needed to be one of the most popular players
    he has changed his game and now can score more and also touch the ball more during a game
     
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    if you want players who will be forgotten a few years down the line, look at portugal's players, except for ronaldo
     
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    I think perhaps the most important criteria for evaluating a player is how they perform in significant matches. Within this regard, Cristiano Ronaldo is a fantastic player and had an utterly excellent tournament. He scored crucial goals and setups VS Hungary to get Portugal through, he setup the extra time winner VS Croatia, and scored the winner and setup Nani VS Wales. He was by far the best player in this tournament.

    Gareth Bale also had a fantastic tournament. Griezmann was good, but ultimately failed to come up in the big match. Scoring goals isnt everything and just because he has 6 goals doesnt mean he is "the player of the tournament" . He looked horrible in the final. Also you need to take into account Ronaldo's assists. He was much better than Griezmann.

    Coming up big in significant matches is something Ronaldo has always done and its what makes him better than Messi IMO. Its also what makes Zidane France's best ever footballer.

    Griezmann is obviously talented, but hes no superstar and likely never will be like say Ronaldo, Messi, Iniesta or Gotze or like Zidane was.

    As for the tournament, yes the White teams (Italy, Spain, Russia, Croatia and to a lesser extent Germany) could have played better but we had a very difficult draw. Sometimes thats the way things go though and theres always another chance. I do believe football is a sport that rewards merit. The Euros are big but not as big as the World Cup, in that regard we still have a pedominantly White World Champion (Germany of 2014).
     
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    Aren't you upset to repeat the same shitty nonsense?
     
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    Dear ThePhilosopher,

    I was here a few years ago ;) since 2010, under the name Lisa D, and trust me, some things are better now in French football (I reckon it was easy not to do worse).

    What I wanted to say is not that you have superficial knowledge of football, but because I am French, I can testify about what happens around French players. Regarding things occuring right now, we can be pretty optimistic. Griezmann is now THE star in France, so the team will be built around him (it means with respect to his preferences and his favorite players). On the contrary, Pogba is disappointing the hopes people had in his evolution. He hasn't improved for 3 years. On the contrary, Griezmann improved a lot, even though he was indeed already extremely skilled. The price of Pogba doesn't depend on his skills but on the possibilities of selling him again.
     
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    calling this tournament a disaster is an exageration
    it would be worthy of being called a disaster if we only looked at the raw numbers of black or non white players in the portugal and france teams
    but the role of the different players is as important as the raw numbers
    for example italy with only 1 black on the team was impossible to root for because it was balotelli
    4 years ago they tried to pretend balotelli was the best player in the world because he had a big role, spain ended up winning the tournament so it could have been worse
    the same thing could have happened with pogba
    it would have been a disaster, yes
    because pogba today is a bigger star than balotelli was
    had he made anything worth noting, the tournament would have been a disaster

    it is just a tournament with not much to remember, and already the only thing people care about is the fact that ronaldo won it in a dramatic fashion
    it's idiotic because ronaldo didn't even play the final but he is such a huge star
    he is like 100 times more popular than pogba, literally
     
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    you are wrong about messi , griezmann and zidane but at least you are more respectfull than you were yesterday
    were you drunk?
     
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    Though I agree in general with Rebajlo's post that goal by Eder was quite lucky. It started a minute earlier with a free kick that shouldn't have been given. Then Eder took the ball inside looking for someone to pass to but there was no one so he shot. 19 times out of 20 that would not have gone in. Eder couldn't buy a goal at Swansea.

    Anyway I was still glad Portugal won. They are a small country with a history of black and mixed race players (eg Eusebio). If a more important country like France wins with lots of blacks/Arabs it is always a big propaganda coup for the multiculti traitors.
     
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    the belgian coach has been sacked
    they must really be mad about losing important white players before the game against wales, because with all of their players they could have won the tournament
     

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