Trent Taylor

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  1. Don Wassall

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    Thanks for starting this thread!

    All the eye popping stats i posted almost weekly during CFB seasons makes it all worth it! Gave him the name Trent TNT Taylor...like a stick of dynamite! Didn't take long to realize he was special & had the "it" factor!...like the article says...at only 5'-8" 181 very tough...at times at WR he was the one giving the licks...saw larger players bounce off of him!

    49ers got them a Draft gem in Taylor....interestingly like Chad Hansen ONLY had ONE OFFER out of HS....(Kupp was an afterthought too) 3 of the 4 white WR's Drafted..ONLY Switzer was heavily Recruited.
     
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    Taylor has the ability to be a 3rd down Rb as well as a slot WR. I remember watching one of his games this year and being amazed with how much anger and strength he runs with after the catch. I hope Shanahan uses him creatively and it is nice to know that the head coach basically hand picked him for this offense.
     
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    • According to the Sacramento Bee, 49ers rookie wide receiver Trent Taylor has stood out at OTAs and minicamp, and was reported as being “very good at separating” from defenders. Taylor is expected to challenge WR Jeremy Kerley for time in the slot this season.
    • Taylor was one of college football’s best receivers last season, especially in the slot, where he lined up 95 percent of the time and led all college wide receivers in receptions (131) and receiving yards (1,734) from that alignment.
    • With 3.28 yards per route run from the slot, Taylor ranked second among draft-eligible wide receivers with a minimum of 100 targets. His catch rate of 80.4 in the slot tied for second among 72 draft-eligible wide receivers.
    • He possibly had the best hands of the draft class, as his drop rate of 2.84 ranked first among draft-eligible wide receivers with at least 108 targets, only dropping four passes out of 141 catchable passes.
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-49ers-rookie-wr-trent-taylor-turning-heads-in-minicamp/
     
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    It's encouraging the way Trent Taylor, Ryan Switzer, Cooper Kupp and Christian McCaffrey are all getting mostly favorable coverage as rookies.

    Is 49ers rookie Trent Taylor the next Wes Welker?

    by Chris Wesseling

    Kyle Shanahan's aerial attack has always featured a physically dominant split end such as Andre Johnson, Pierre Garcon or Julio Jones.

    Slot receivers, on the other hand, have rarely taken on starring roles in Shanahan's decade of running NFL offenses.

    Might that change in San Francisco with fifth-round rookie Trent Taylor coming off a surprisingly strong showing in OTAs and minicamp?

    Taylor's offensive coordinator at Louisiana Tech, Tony Franklin, believes the 49ers nabbed the steal of the draft in an ultra-productive player who led the nation with 1,803 receiving yards last season, finishing his college career ranked fifth in Division I history with 327 receptions.

    "A lot of times you hear people say, 'This guy is the next Wes Welker,'" Franklin told Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle. "Every small, white kid's been Wes Welker since Wes Welker became a star. I'm telling you, Trent Taylor really is."

    Perhaps the greatest slot receiver of all time, Welker averaged 112 catches over a six-season span with the Patriots. If Taylor's ceiling is that high, why was he still available with the 177th pick in the draft?

    It comes down to measurables. As Branch points out, Taylor was near the bottom of the list among 53 wide receivers at the 2017 NFL Scouting Combine in height (5-foot-8), weight (181 pounds), hand size (8¼ inches), arm length (28¾ inches) and speed (4.63 seconds in the 40-yard dash).

    Welker's measurables ranked near the bottom of the 2004 draft class as well. In fact, he went undrafted and was waived by the Chargers before he emerged as a starter in Miami, New England and Denver.

    It would be wrongheaded, though, to portray Welker or Taylor as unathletic. In addition to his football success, Taylor was an all-state point guard in high school. When he dabbled in tennis as a senior, he made it all the way to the state finals in doubles.

    Taylor will never beat NFL cornerbacks on the outside, but Shanahan believes the rookie's skill set is custom-made for success in confined spaces.

    "I thought he was as good at the slot role as anyone that we were looking at in the draft," Shanahan explained in late April. "He really owned that spot. He was very quick. His body's always under him. He can make cuts.

    "I thought what impressed me the most about him besides the separation ability is that when he did get the ball in his hands, he ran angry and pissed off. He got up the field. He's not scared to get hit. He's a very competitive, violent runner and those are the guys to me who keep you on the field and move the chains."

    Shanahan's description reads like a Welker scouting report from a decade ago. The premier inside route runner of his generation, Welker consistently beat single coverage with elite short-area quickness while reading defensive keys on the same wavelength as his quarterbacks. The gridiron safety blanket was exactly where he was supposed to be when the internal clock of Tom Brady or Peyton Manning struck zero.

    Taylor has the same gift for changing direction without losing speed, boasting the fastest time in the combine's three-cone drill (6.74) and the third-fastest 20-yard short shuttle (4.01).

    Time will tell if Taylor truly has the potential to become a Welker clone, much less the next Cole Beasley or Danny Amendola. If he's pushing veteran Jeremy Kerley for playing time by the end of his rookie season, it will be fair for 49ers fans to imagine the possibilities.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...49ers-rookie-trent-taylor-the-next-wes-welker
     
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    Loved watching Trent Taylor at La Tech. Real easy guy to root for - runs so damn hard after he has the ball - would love it if they put him in the backfield in certain packages as well.
     
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    Given his height, weight, and skin color, I understand the Welker comparison, but nobody watching Taylor's collegiate highlight videos contrasted against Welker's would think they were similar players. Taylor has a more slender build, is a legit deep threat, and he's is much better after the catch. Wes is stronger off the line and much quicker on intermediate routes...



    I think Trent could be an NFL superstar. The mere fact that he was drafted proves that times are really changing. In Welker's day, white WR's needed a miracle to get noticed, let alone get drafted, make a team, and get playing time as anything but a Sean Morey-style "special teamer." After years of watching Brady lead an all-white WR's corps and win multiple titles, the rest of the league is finally trying to catch up. Good luck to Trent...

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    The article says Taylor will never beat cornerbacks on the outside but I say never say never. Yeah most of his catches will in the short to intermediate range but every now and then I think he'll find a way to get behind a CB or safety and make a long gainer. Then they'll all be looking and pointing at each other like "I thought you had him" and that will be fun to watch.

    Subtracting Kappernick and adding Taylor has me thinking of rejoining the Niner's fold.
     
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    Good video though I have seen a few of Taylor's highlights. He is definitely not a Welker clone. He looks a lot faster than his 4.6 40 at least on film. He could almost pass for Ryan Switzer with the run after the catch ablility.
    I post here because in the video a white announcer marveling at Taylor's abilities and starts yelling " one offer out of high school , I can't believe it . " If one watches the video of wr Cody Thompson there is a black commentator saying the thing over and over 2 years ago when Thompson put up 4 tds in the second half against Central Michigan. Man these guys were terrible in high school and just much better and got more athletic after 1 school felt sorry for them and offered them a scholarship. Wink.
     
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    Taylor really does scramble hard after the catch. His crossovers causing the black backfield to run into each other is funny. This guy will likely get played as some white receivers are starting to get accepted again in the league.
     
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    the bruvahs caint takle wat dey caint catch
     
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    He breaks tackles like a RB and looks faster than welker. Awesome. That Highlight was fun to Watch!
     
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    John Lynch on Trent:

    Trent Taylor is exactly what we thought he’d be. He’s a guy who can flat out separate. You need guys, when it comes to any down, but especially on third downs, you need those guys that can just go get open. And he’s a guy who we saw on film that had an ability to do that against just about anyone. And then, he’s carried that over to practice out here. He’s been fun to watch.”

    https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/6...-taylor-49ers-wide-receivers-marquise-goodwin
     
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    Good selection by Lynch and Shanahan. They have the 49ers on the right track.
     
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    Of the four White WR selected in this draft - Switzer, Kupp, Hansen, and Taylor, I was highest on Taylor - and I believe he was picked last of the four. I hope he can get some good QB play, stay healthy, and take the "Wes Welker" label to the next level where they'll have to compare future black WRs to him, "the next Trent Taylor". I think he has that potential.
     
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    You are right Heretic but I just think Kupp keeps impressing me. He dominated D1 competition in the sparingly few games E. Washington played them. He then dominated D1 corners in practice and on the field at the Senior Bowl. I think both Taylor and Kupp are going to light it up often and soon. Switzer has the ability but Beasely has a good # of years left in him abd I think Switzer will make his mark returning punts and hopefully get a few kickoffs and a # of end arounds as Cole B. is a great athlete but does not have the shake and bake of Switzer and most NFl players do not either.
    I came here to post on Colt rookie rb Dalton Crossan. The great news is GM Chris Ballard said in an interview last early May that the Colts were thinking of drafting him but knew they could get him via free agency and he seems to be very high on him. The article states that Crossan will probably be the Colts 4th rb but he is just as good as third rb Marlon Mack and he is just a notch below C. McCaffrey in receiving ability for a rb IMO. Mack couldin't catch a cold naked in the Arctic. I still think Frank Gore is going to break down real early. Maybe even before the regular season starts. Tubin is their starter it looks like but he can't carry the load. I once again reiterate from a previous post that Crossan will make the team and get some serious reps maybe the way Zenner filled in for Detroit last year. Crossan , Kupp, Taylor, Nelson, Thielen and company, and of course Woodhead, Burkhead plus Gronk abd the two wr's ( I don't think Amendola is going to factor much with Cooks around ) and of course McCaffrey I think this is going to be a good NFL season. I can't wait for someone in August to start the white purge for 2017 post. I don't think it is going to be as bad as it usually gets despite my early optimism. The concerns are Minnesota's backup wr's as well as Green Bay , well at least for me.
     
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    You're certainly right about Minnesota having to purge as they simply have too many White WRs. At least they'll be fun to watch in preseason and with good performances maybe a few can latch on elsewhere. The same year after year.
     
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    Old Frank Gore is still the starter. He had severe knee problems at the U, but has turned out to be one of the most durable and productive NFL RBs ever. I think his Wonderlic score was 9 or thereabouts, but he's a team player and an all-time great. Still going strong at 34, pretty amazing. Always had a lot of respect for him.

    After Gore there's very little there. Crossan might have a chance to stick and eventually show, we'll have to see. At any rate let's get back on topic.
     
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    I think Trent has a good chance, along with Cooper Kupp, of making his mark as a rookie, which is extremely rare for the Caste NFL.

    Day 2 of training camp is in the books for the San Francisco 49ers and here are the highlights and observations to take away.

    -Trent Taylor was the star of Saturday, catching a combined six passes in 11-on-11 and 7-on-7 drills. It came mostly against second and third-stringers, but production is production. Kyle Shanahan is lining up the 5-foot-8 Taylor both in the slot and a little bit on the outside. For a fifth-round pick just entering the league, Taylor’s a polished route runner and explosive once the football is in his hands. It’s not hard to see why he was Shanahan’s “draft crush” according to John Lynch.

    -So, how quickly can Taylor make an impact in 2017? Shanahan told us the slot receiver in his offense is pretty traditional, and that he ultimately is looking for one guy to lock down the role. Right now, that’s Jeremy Kerley, who re-signed for three years, $10.5 million right before free agency. That isn’t a ton of money, but enough to make it seem like the 49ers are happy with Kerley in that role. Still, if Taylor continues to stack impressive days on top of each other during camp, he may start to infringe on Kerley’s role. Pierre Garcon and Marquise Goodwin are locked in at the No. 1 and No. 2 spots. Goodwin in particular is off to a blazing start.

    full article: http://www.knbr.com/2017/07/29/49ers-camp-observations-trent-taylor-takes-over-day-2/
     
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    From a report on 49ers training camp:

    Rookie wide receiver Trent Taylor caught everything thrown his way against second-string defenders and may press fellow slot receiver Jeremy Kerley if he can replicate his production against the starting defense.
     
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    T n T will be a star. I see a guy with the hands of Welker who is fearless. Throw him the ball
    and just watch him go get it. He is on the right team for his many talent. I'm excited to see
    what he can do in the nfl. I see a very good year coming as he is so confident. Just hope he stays
    healthy!
     
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    Wow, an unbelievable grab. I hope all the buzz around him isn't just talk and he actually gets some snaps.

    While Taylor ran a much slower 40 time than TY Hilton, I think they could be very similar players. Both 5' 9", 180-lb guys who can play both inside/outside and always seems to be open in the middle of the field. Hilton may have more straight line speed, but he struggles mightily with drops...whereas Trent catches everything.
     
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    Trent T-N-T Taylor had 3 receptions(on three targets) for 33 yards vs. the KC Chiefs last night...he also had a nice 33 yard punt return.
     
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