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Here's the latest example of the "cultural cleansing" of Dixie. France's last name makes it a little more understandable though!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/4967908

NEW YORK (AP) - NASCAR CEO Brian France doesn't like fans flying Confederate flags at races as he tries to make auto racing more appealing to minorities and women.

"It's not a flag that I look at with anything favorable. That's for sure," he said in an interview with CBS' "60 Minutes" to be aired Sunday. "I can't tell people what flag to fly. I can tell you the flag we get behind: It's the American flag."
France is trying to broaden auto racing's appeal with minorities in places like Los Angeles, where France moved the important Labor Day NASCAR event last year, and New York, soon to have a track.

"(Reaching out to minorities) is something I work on every day. I work on it personally," France said.

Among those efforts France counts running a NASCAR event in Mexico and establishing a training program for female and minority drivers. And he doesn't believe the racial stereotypes associated with the Confederate flag will affect NASCAR.

"I think it's a fading image," France said.


Fans display the Stars and Stripes alongside the Stars and Bars in the infield at Darlington (S.C.) Raceway during the 2002 Southern 500 (Jamie Squire / Getty Images)
The NASCAR chairman's comments come as the sport heads to Kansas Speedway this weekend for the fourth race in the Chase for the Nextel Cup. Tony Stewart leads the 10 drivers in NASCAR's version of the playoffs. But Ryan Newman, the only Chase driver to win a Cup race at Kansas, is only four points behind Stewart.

There are seven races remaining in the driving career of Rusty Wallace, and the longtime NASCAR star would like to make them memorable. Wallace is 76 points behind Stewart in third place, and the 1989 champion of NASCAR's top stock car series is focused on winning another title in his final season, dubbed "Rusty's Last Call."

Carl Edwards, sitting 100 points behind Stewart in sixth place, has managed to stay under the radar through the first three Chase for the championship races. That should change for him this weekend when he races at the closest thing to a hometown track for the Missouri native.

Edwards is expecting a ton of friends and family to make the two-hour trip from Columbia, Mo., to Kansas for Sunday's race. He went home earlier this week to do as much catching up as he can in an effort to free his schedule at the track and allow him to concentrate on racing.
 

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Here is a picture from the Southern 500 in Darlington in 2002. Now, for those who have brought this up before to me, take a close look at this picture. The caption underneath mentions the Stars and Bars. Well, I will tell you that there is only one Stars and Bars flag present in this picture, and it is somewhat hard to identify if you don't know what you're looking for. I guarantee this Jamie Squire fellow has no clue as to what flag the Stars and Bars is. Just another example of the ignorance of the sheeple.

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Fans display the Stars and Stripes alongside the Stars and Bars in the infield at Darlington (S.C.) Raceway during the 2002 Southern 500 (Jamie Squire / Getty Images)

By they way, the flag my avatar represents is also in the picture. Maybe someone on this site will get curious enough to do the research on these flags and get them right for once.
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He's lucky there aren't a lot of swatikas flying at the track the way these "minorities" behave.
 
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"(Reaching out to minorities) is something I work on every day. I work on it personally," France said."

Spoken like the morbidly obese sell-out that he is! Just like a nut-less politician, France is probably surrounded by jewish handlers and "consultants," who are filling his ears with the blessings of race-mixing, which will make NASCAR stronger and help it shake its reputation as a White, rural phenomenon.

Note to NASCAR: races are popular BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL-WHITE AFFAIRS! A NASCAR race is one of the few remaining group gatherings that are not infested with non-Whites acting like apes and destroying the "groove." Mark my words: when France and his cronies begin bussing "underprivileged inner-city youths" to the tracks, the true-blue NASCAR fans will abandon the sport. And with good reason -- they are being betrayed by the sport they helped build.
 

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I have a realitive who gave up on other sports and became a nascar fan. From what he tells me he goes to the races to be around likeminded people and drink beer.
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Nascar races to him are a celebration of white souther culture. I personaly think cars going around in a circle is dumb. I would rather watch real athletes like Matt Jones and Steave Nash. By the way if my cousin ever convences me to go i'll fly the battle flag.Edited by: white tornado
 

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Good for you on that last sentence white tornado!
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It needs to be flown. I haven't kept up with NASCAR since around 1990, when it had really totally changed from what it started as. The sad thing is, I bet France has some Confederate ancestors that he's effectively taking a leak on with his comments. It makes me sick. I bet his grandfather, Bill France Sr, the founder of Nascar, never would have said or even thought that. You know, until the 80's, they would hand the winner of the Southern 500 in Darlington a Confederate battle flag to wave during his victory lap. Man, for the good ole days.
 

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It's more like ethnic cleansing of whites in NASCAR.
 

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Needless to say, these characters are never concerned that a Union Jack might "offend" an Irishman, or that an Indian probably doesn't have alot of good racial memories about the Stars$Stripes. Sooooo transparent, their agenda.
 

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Good posts guys, but I can't believe no one is asking me about the Stars and Bars flag I mention above! I thought it would have made somebody curious.
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I thought the Stars and Bars was the battle flag and the flag on your avatar was the national flag. Am I wrong?
 

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Nice try KG, but to quote Moe Howard, you're wrong whiz kid! You are correct about my avatar being a national flag, it is the 3'rd national, or last official Confederate flag. It was approved about a month or so before Lee surrendered, so few of them saw use. Because of the addition of the red vertical bar on the fly end, it is sometimes called the blood-stained banner, as opposed to the stainless banner (2'nd national) that it replaced.

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The flag that correctly bears the name Stars and Bars is the 1'st national Confederate flag, not the Battle flag. Here is a 1'st national flag for comparison.


It is the politically correct Confederate flag to fly these days, because it doesn't contain the modified St. Andrew's Cross like the other two national flags do and the common battle flag does. The Confederate Battle flag is one of the most misunderstood symbols in history. Most people know so little about it, they usually make errors when discussing it, hence the misnomer "Stars and Bars" being applied to it so often. It really is a show of laziness by reporters who refer to it as that. I always correct anyone who refers to the Battle flag as such. As you can see, it is a pet peave of mine.Edited by: Colonel_Reb
 

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Thanks for the info Col. Reb. I used to fly the battle flag in front of my house. I'm sure that raised some eyebrows.
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I live in an apartment now. How are you liking Utah? Are the people friendly? I'm sure it's different than the South.
 

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I like Utah pretty well so far. The people are nice, and are friendly to a point. You better believe its different from the South, in some ways good and in others not. I have very mixed opinions on the mormons from what I have seen thusfar. Overall though, it has been a good experience. I also like the fresh air here a lot, except for how thin it is.
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A couple of weeks ago, in the only episode of Southpark I have ever watched, they were having a Civil War re-enactment. The funny thing was, the "Federal" troops were using the First National Confederate Flag (Stars and Bars), and the Confederate troops were using the Confederate Battle flag. I don't know who made the mistake when producing that show, but it was hilarious to see. You basically had an early war (1861-62) Confederate unit, dressed in blue, which was common in the first year of war, fighting against a late war (1865) Confederate unit dressed in grey. Someone should have done their homework!
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Anyway, the 1865 Confederates decided to and did fight the battle for real and win it instead of letting the "Yankees" win it like they had during the War! That might be one episode I have to get a copy of.
 

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Howdy Colonel Reb! I love the C-flag Articles You Post !


It's only infrequently that I spy a Confederate Flag waving proudly .... anywhere I roam in US of A. But I always make a point to salute every C-Flag I see! I fly a Stars-and-Bars at my Jacksonville FL sometimes-home. Most onlookers don't know it's significance.


Know any distributors ofinexpensive Battle Flags? I have a spot in my Yankee town where I'd like to plant about fifty 3x6 inch Battle Flags, in neat, defiant rows.
 

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Its good to know there are others who respect the history and meaning of Confederate flags, in all their hundreds of varieties. To be honest, there are a whole lot more of us out there than we know about, we just don't have contact with each other that often.

The cheapest place I know of to get 4x6 inch flags from is: www.rebelstore.com

The Ruffin Flag Company in Georgia also makes really good, all sewn cotton, larger sized flags. They made the ones in "Gods and Generals" and "Gettysburg." I have a couple of them. I would recommend their sewn flags over anyone. They can be bought through many local shops as well, as they are the world's largest producer of Confederate flags. Their website is a bit confusing to someone who has never used it before, but here is the link to the homepage.

http://www.ruffinflag.com/

Most of your local flag shops are good for certain items, but usually charge more for small flags, Ex. 4x6 inch, 8x12 inch, and 2x3 ft sizes. They make their money off selling large numbers of 3x5 ft. flags, usually cheap printed ones. That is why I usually go looking online for small flags that are on sticks, because I put them up in cemeteries.

You are correct about the Stars and Bars being unrecognized. Georgia legislators, in an attempt to rid the state of "Confederate imagery" changed their pre-2001 flag, bearing the battle flag prominently, to an exact copy of the Stars and Bars in 2003, the only addition being the state seal. When I brought this up to a reporter a few weeks ago, she was still oblivious to the point that they are both Confederate, and that they both represent the Confederacy in some way. It flew right over her head. You just can't tell some people anything!
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By the way, I fly my Mississippi flag from my 7'th story room. I also fly the Confederate Battle flag back home on a 30 foot pole.
 

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Thanks for th info Colonel Reb I just might by another flag becausemineis geting old.
 

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Article I just found on the Kansas City Star website. Some of you might be interested in it, although I found it to be predictably negative towards the South.

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By BILL REITER
The Kansas City Star

Deep South memories
OXFORD, Miss. | So this is what it's come to for the Rebel.

He's Brian Ferguson, a 23-year-old University of Mississippi graduate leading an effort to bring back the school's banned mascot, Colonel Reb, and he's driving down the streets of Oxford in his pickup truck, trying to tell you that he's not interested in the Confederate flag.

He's telling you all he wants is for the school to bring Colonel Reb back to football games. He's telling you the South is facing a crisis of a fading culture, and the battle to save it has moved to the football field. He's telling you this isn't about the Confederate flag.

"We don't support that  we support Colonel Reb coming back," Ferguson says.

He's forgetting there are six Confederate flags hanging from his rearview mirror.

You point them out. He pauses. He changes the subject. He pauses again. The truck hums on.

"I have it for my ancestors," the Memphis native says, finally. "It represents where I came from. I have relatives who fought in the Civil War. It's part of my history."

Football is a part of his history, too  his, the history of those who support him, and that of those he's up against.

That's why this fight, over a mascot who looks like a white plantation owner, seems so important.

"To the South, football is the moral equivalent of the Civil War, where you can battle once again with the demons of an unhappy past," said Char Miller, director of urban studies and a professor of history at Trinity College in San Antonio. "That's why I love football in this area. There's so many things playing out on the ground, and only a few of them have to do with football."

It has to do with the SEC having won 15 national titles since 1934. It has to do with the South losing battles, from the Civil War to the Civil Rights movement, but dominating the North on the football field. It has to do with a region that sees the sport as its last chance to fight back.

It's as Faulkner wrote: "The past is never dead. It's not even past."

Particularly when it comes to football in the South.

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This is the past: It is the University of Mississippi's administration, in 2003, banning Colonel Reb from the sidelines at games. It is Ferguson, then a student, forming an organization to save the mascot. It is Ferguson and supporters passing out bumper stickers, talking to the press and creating a similar mascot named "Colonel Too."

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Each game, someone dresses as the new mascot and sits in the stands. The administration doesn't bend. Neither does Ferguson.

The past is 1997, when the administration came up with a unique ban for football games in an effort to curtail the number of Confederate flags flying in the stadium. "The way we dealt with it was to have a ban on all sticks in the crowd," says Chancellor Robert Khayat, a former Ole Miss football great who went on to play in the NFL. "You can't bring an umbrella, or a hot dog on a stick, or a flag on a stick."

Though it diminishes the number of flags, it does not eliminate them.

The past is Oct. 1, 1962, the day James Meredith became the first black student to enroll at the University of Mississippi, and the riots his enrollment sparked on campus. It is the federal troops and U.S. marshals brought in, and the violence that leaves two dead and dozens injured.

The past is the Confederate flag used as a symbol of opposition to a black man going to school here. The past is that flag flown for decades on the Grove, the school's campus green, on game days.

The past is the Civil War. It is the entire student body and much of the faculty leaving school to fight in a company nicknamed the University Greys. It is none of them coming home. It is the university being turned into a hospital that serves Union and Confederate soldiers.

It is dying during Pickett's Charge at the Battle of Gettysburg, when the Greys help the Confederacy push as far into Union territory as it would ever go.

It is Sherman burning down the South but sparing this campus, in part, say school officials, because of the Union soldiers who were treated well here.

It is all of this, all across the South, now being played out on football fields from Greenville, Miss., to Greensboro, N.C. It is Bear Bryant leading Alabama to six of the school's 12 national titles; it is thousands of Auburn fans lining Donahue Drive on game day; it is the pride of LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida and, of course, Ole Miss.

"There's a sense in the South that they have experienced something no other part of the country has experienced in terms of loss," Miller said. "Oddly, it has been attached to football."

Every Saturday, another shot at victory.

"There's a deep, emotional, historical connection with the military here, with combat, with young Southern men wanting to serve," said Jeffrey Alford, the associate vice chancellor for university relations. "It's that deep-rooted tradition that attracts young boys in the South to play football.

"And its heart and soul is here in Mississippi."

The past is people like Ferguson fearing an end to those traditions. It is also people like Warner Alford  former football great, assistant coach and athletic director, a man who has seen the Confederate flag waved his whole life.

It is Warner Alford wishing people could learn to let go, just as he has.

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The evolution of Warner Alford starts in the fall of 1956. He is a 6-foot, 175-pound freshman from McComb, Miss., recruited to play center and linebacker. He has grown up in segregated schools. There are no black people, not one, attending the university during his time there.

He does not think about these things.

Not about segregation, or a sense of tradition in jeopardy, or a feeling of any kind about the Confederate flag. It's as common and unimportant as seeing the score on the scoreboard, or cheerleaders cheering.

"I didn't even think about it when it was here," he says.

He thought about football. He played the game, moving to guard on one side of the ball and linebacker on the other. He was co-captain of the Rebels' 1960 national championship team.

"It was a good time," he says. "We won a lot of football games."

And that was it: He left college and ventured into the real world. He went home and helped run his family's retail department store. And then football, of all things, forced him to pay attention.

"I was at a game in Jackson," he says. "Ole Miss versus Kentucky, and the governor came into the stadium."

The crowd erupted. Confederate flags flew. Gov. Ross Barnett's voice spilled from the speakers. James Meredith wanted to enroll in school, and the governor vowed to take a stand against the black student.

"I love Mississippi!" Barnett told the crowd. "I love her people [and] our customs! I love and respect our heritage!"

The crowd cheered frantically, and Alford turned to his wife: "This is not a pretty sight," he remembers saying.

That started it, that moment altering the way a man can see the world. Then it was 1971, and Alford came back to Oxford as an assistant football coach. He was there when Ben Williams became the school's first black player. He was there in 1972, when Pete Robertson and Gary Turner made it three black football players.

"My evolution was coaching and recruiting our black athletes," he says. "I knew them one-on-one, personally. I watched them succeed, watched them graduate. I know their children now."

Watch closely. Because this is as much about how a state changes as it is about how a man does. It is how the past connects to today. It is why football matters. It is Alford, and many men like him, thinking about things in a way they never had before.

Things like the Confederate flag.

"I said (to our black players), if it's a problem for you," Alford said, "it's a problem for me."

Yes, some of those black athletes said, the rebel flag is a problem. Can you see Alford changing? Because a few year later, as the athletic director, he hires Ken Gibson to be the track coach. Gibson will be the first black man to ever lead an Ole Miss team, and one of the first black coaches in the SEC.

And then it is 1983, and Alford stands at a news conference with Chancellor Porter Fortune Jr. They announce the Confederate flag is no longer an official symbol of the university.

"That was a first step," Alford said. "It was not a popular decision."

This is how a man changes, and how men like him, in changing, transform their little part of the world.

The 18-year-old boy who arrived in 1956 wouldn't have given a second thought about that rebel flag. The 68-year-old man Alford is today can't stand the sight of it.

"The odd thing about the Confederate flag was, it was mainly only at football games," says Alford, who's now the executive director of the university's alumni association. "Not to baseball games, not to basketball. Confederate flags only came to football games."

Alford does not say the flag is necessarily racist. He does not say those who wave it are racists. He simply thinks people should let go, just as he has.

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Jerry Walker wishes he could let it go. He truly does.

But there are six Walkers buried 50 miles from his little gas station west of Oxford, all casualties of the Civil War. When he talks about them, his voice rises as if he's pleading. He stares out with the eyes of a man used to being judged.

"I have ancestors that were in the Civil War," the 51-year-old says passionately. "It's about telling a guy he has to forget his past and can't mention it. My people were part of it. Right or wrong. My people were part of it, as were all the people of the South."

Hundreds of Confederate flags sit around him. They're for sale, ranging from $1.75 for the tiny, hand-held variety to $15.95 for bigger ones. Dozens of football mementos hang around him. Ole Miss schedules. Signed footballs. Pictures of Ole Miss greats stretching back to the 1959 season.

The football collection and Confederate paraphernalia, all cramming this rundown gas station, seem as naturally linked as baseball and beer, as hockey and ice.

Walker is still talking, and Don Mills is standing next to him, nodding with approval. He's built like a 53-year-old linebacker and is wearing a bandana dotted with dozens of Confederate flags. He's an Oxford police officer.

"That's what separated us from the North, this Mason-Dixon line," Walker says. "It's in your heart. They can't take what you have in the past, right or wrong, sad or bad. You can't change that. It still happened."

Two black men walk inside the gas station. The four of them greet each other pleasantly.

"Hi."

"Hey."

"How's it going?"

"Real good."

Someone tells a joke, and they all laugh, the two black men, the white man wearing the Confederate bandana, the white man whose relatives are buried nearby.

The men leave, and Walker picks up where he left off.

Colonel Reb and the Confederate flag are "the traditions of the school," he says. "It's the school's heritage, team spirit."

"I'm not prejudice," Mills chimes in. "I treat everyone the same ... (but) I think if you keep giving a little piece at a time, you'll end up with something totally different."

Brian Ferguson's name comes up.

"Is he the guy with the other Colonel Reb?" Mills asks.

"Yep, that's him," Walker says.

"He's always in the stands."

"Yep, he's done a great job."

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Standing inside the Grove, Ferguson sees so much: The history of his school. Saturdays overflowing with 100,000 football fans. The Walk of Champions  the sidewalk in the Grove players march through on their way to the stadium.

He sees much of that history in jeopardy.

"By taking away Colonel Reb, you hollowed out the university," he says.

He frowns, caught between anger and sadness. What, he wonders, will they remove next? The term "Ole Miss," because it's an old moniker for a plantation owner's mistress? Or the word "Rebels" because of its link to the Confederacy and, by connection, to slavery?

"It's something we've feared for a long time," Ferguson says. "If they continue to take away the traditions, we'll end up as Bland University."

For Ferguson and those like him, this isn't about a mascot. It's about an avalanche of political correctness overwhelming what it means to be Southern. It's about tradition. It's about not giving in.

"People like the athletic director and chancellor, in many people's eyes, have lost a little bit of their connectives of this whole concept," says Charles Ross, director of African-American studies at the university and author of a book on the reintegration of the NFL. "Football games take this notion of this lost cause, and this nobleness of the Civil War."

It is a battle played out in bars and restaurants, from the old Taylor Grocery south of town where folks eat catfish and talk sports, to the Grove on game days, to the small towns that make up Mississippi.

"We're winning the battle," Ferguson says. "But when we get him back on the field, we'll have won the war."

The chancellor says that will not happen. Ferguson sees it differently. Get a new chancellor or athletic director, he points out, and things could change.

"When it comes back to it," Ferguson says, "the only people that want Colonel Reb gone are the chancellor and the athletic director."

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That's not quite true.

People say many things. They get emotional talking about Ole Miss, football and a tradition steeped in rebellion. They feel many different things but seem to communicate the same way, with the painful pauses of those who assume they will be misunderstood.

This is what they say:

Chancellor Khayat, who received death threats after the stick ban. He is white: "Our students and our alumni realized it was not in the best interest of the university to continue that rigid position of we're not going to give up this flag. It became uncool, in our students' terminology, to wave the flag."

Larry Happs, 62, who is white and lives outside Oxford: "Folks still want it, but the chancellor and the higher men said no. They still get them on the campus and at the ballgames, but it's not allowed."

Reshika Coleman, 21, a senior at the university who is black: "I don't have a problem with (the Confederate flag) ... I would say it's not good that we don't have a mascot."

Brock Harrington, an 18-year-old sophomore who is white: "People have always looked down on the South and haven't understood us. You don't have to come here if it offends you."

Ross, the director of African-American studies, who is black and has lived in the South for 11 years: "At football game tailgating, I've got to tell you: I've never experienced that level of Confederate paraphernalia. It is intimidating, psychologically, particularly for African Americans. And yet they're inviting you over for chicken, and they're so inviting. So I don't know. Maybe it's a Southern thing, maybe I don't understand it, maybe I'm too sensitive."

Adam Jones, an Ole Miss alum whose dad played football for the Rebels. Jones is white: "The flag and Colonel Reb, let's just say this: The people it was a big deal to were in the minority. They want to see the university as a positive, and anything that could hold the university back, they oppose."

Jon Rawl, an alum, radio show host and founder of Y'All, a magazine for Southern people, on opposition to Colonel Reb and the Confederate flag. Rawl is white: "I think it's silly, absolutely silly ... the flag is beloved... You're going to see, in the not-too-distant future, the revival of a lot of these things."

Khayat: "I don't see how people can argue the flag should be a symbol of this university, given the negative light of the flag today."

Jill Miley, a 25-year-old Ole Miss grad and local bartender who is white: "I love tradition. It goes hand-in-hand with SEC football. I don't like the fact it offends people. It's such a touchy issue. I wish we could meet in the middle, but I don't know if the university can. I'm glad they took the Confederate flag away, but I miss the Colonel. It just seems like tradition is slipping away a little bit."

Khayat: "You'd do a good thing to tell people that the Confederate flag is no longer associated with the university. Truth is a powerful thing ... People think we're down here hanging black folks by their toes."

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The wind blows through the cemetery. It is the first cool breeze of the 100-degree day. It makes you smile as you walk across the charred grass.

The granite grave marker juts out of the grass. Flowers sit at its base.

The block letters on the 10-foot marker read: "Here rest more than seven hundred soldiers who died on the campus of the University of Mississippi when the buildings were used as a war hospital, 1862-1865; Most of them Confederate, wounded at Shiloh; A few federals of Grant's army; A few Confederates of Forrest's cavalry; Even their names, save these, known but to God."

There are about 124 names. Union and Confederate soldiers buried together in a mass grave not far from the school's football stadium.

"The cemetery is a history lesson," Ferguson says. "There have been a lot of hardships, a lot of things we look at now and view as something we wish had never happened. But at the same time, we have to understand the situation. You have people on both sides of the fight."

"What's buried there is, they're all Americans," Alford says. "Just different sides of an issue. When you think about it, they were fighting each other and they were buried together. It's kind of an emotional thought, to tell you the truth."

Four-hundred yards away, the Mississippi Rebels football team is practicing. You hear a coach yelling. You see young men  white and black  playing together.

You take a moment and watch the game.
 
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He's lucky there aren't a lot of swatikas flying at the track the way these "minorities" behave.


lol...The closer Whites get to becoming a minority, the sooner "Swastika Day" at Daytona will be a reality.
 

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Elston Turner:A Real Rebel is Honored as anSEC Legend.


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What this article doesn't mention is the fact that Elston grabbed one of the Confederate battle flags after winning the SEC title in 1981, and ran around the arena with it celebrating the Rebels victory. This very un-PC act bythe black star at Ole Miss is almost completely covered up now. It was a very symbolic act from my perspective, not only because his actionswent against the Black Student Union at Ole Miss, but Elston also showed thousands of people that black people can and should accept the Confederate Battle flag with pride as part of their history. His display of unbridled enthusiasm showed this in a way that few other acts have. Congratulations Elston!


OXFORD, Miss. -- Former Ole Miss star Elston Turner will be part of the SEC Basketball Legends 2007 class to be honored at the conference tournament March 8-11 in Atlanta's Georgia Dome.


A four-year letterwinner from 1978-81, Turner captained the Rebels to their first ever SEC Tournament Championship and the program's NCAA Tournament debut in 1981. The forward from Knoxville, Tenn., garnered All-SEC honors his final two seasons and was a unanimous first team choice as a senior, when he was second in the conference in scoring with a 20.6-point average. Turner still ranks second all-time at Ole Miss in rebounds (828) and fourth in points (1,805).


His stellar collegiate days in the Red and Blue led to a career in professional basketball that has spanned more than two decades. Turner was selected by Dallas in the second round of the 1981 NBA Draft and played eight seasons in all - three with Dallas, three with Denver and two in Chicago. He later entered the NBA coaching ranks and enjoyed a six-year stint as an assistant with the Sacramento Kings.


Each SEC Basketball Legend will be recognized at halftime of his institution's first game at the tournament. This marks the ninth year of the basketball legends program.
 

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Great post Col.Reb! France is all about the almighty dollar, and doesn't really give a hoot about NASCAR's core fans (beyond cashing in on them). It irks me to no end to see NASCAR, Ole Miss, etc. trying to demonize the stars & bars and Southern heritage. My kin fought for the CSA, and I'm damned proud of that! So much so that I fly the REAL GA flag right below Old Glory in my front yard. I also proudly display the stars & bars on my vanity plate, and I dare any candya$$ PC pansy or "hard" gangsta to ever confront me on it. The only thing that would beat them to the ER would be the highlights of the ambulance totin' their sorry hides!!!
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Glad you liked it Dixie! Nice to see a Compatriot on the board as well. Just for the sake of accuracy, I figured you meant the Battle flag (Southern Cross) on the front of your vehicle, not the First National flag (The Stars and Bars). I see reporters constantly referring to the former as the latter and I have sent in countless corrections.


One version of the Stars and Bars (First National Confederate Flag)


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