Tarvaris Jackson

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celticdb15 said:
tavaris jackson flat out blows. i hope the vikings draftt yet another poor mechanic qb in andre woodson so the Green Bay Packers get to beat him up two times a year and maybe just maybe minnesota will STOP drafting blacks at that posiotion!

Can't say that I agree that Woodson sucks, but he clearly isn't as good as Brian Brohm or Matt Ryan IMO. However, he may be third best, Tebow isn't draft eligible and Colt Brennan or John David Booty aren't necessarily better than Woodson.

As for Tarvaris Jackson "if he was a white man" he would be benched for the rest of the season to see if Bollinger, who's had a decent career and played well last game can help salvage the season. However, he still may have resurfaced this year or next year in another chance since he was a high draft pick. But my guess is, if he was white being from a small school he would have been a 4th or 5th rounder not a 2nd rounder, so he may have never started in the first place.
 

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Chris Mortensen and the sportsidiots are now labeling Tarvaris Jackson the second coming of Donovan McNabb. They actually said on air that Jackson's stats in his second year are comparable to McNabb's.

McNabb's second year stats through 16 games:

Completion percentage 58.0%
21 TD 13 INT
Yards 3,365
QB Rating 77.8

Tarvaris Jackson, 8 games:

Completion percentage 57.1%
TD 5 INT 7
Yards 1,104
QB Rating 69.6

Tarvaris is on pace to have 10 TD, 14 INT, and just over
2000 yards passing.

If McNabb doesn't like the fact he isn't compared to Peyton Manning, he REALLY won't like being compared to Tarvaris!
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It's obvious to anybody who investigates the matter that Jackson isn't nearly as good as McNabb in his second year, so what would be the reason behind the undeserved praise?

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The Vikings are the flavor of the week. Jackson is the same.

Anyone who has watched this team play can't deny that the team wins in spite of Jackson, not because of him. He has now put together 2 relatively mistake free games, but its not like he has gone out and made plays to cause the team to have success. I didn't see this weekends game, so I can't comment, but I suspect that it was much of the same, dink and dunk with an occasional chuck, duck and pray.
 

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The media is salivating over the Vikings recent good fortune. They are all thrilled about Tavaris andhis phenomenalimprovement.They'd love to see the Vikes and Jaguars go deep into the playoffs.
 
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My God, with every game I watch Jackson sucks worse.... He is now playing at a level that would have earned him 4th string on my High School Junior Varsity Team.


HOW IN THE @#&$ IS THIS #*$&$*@# STARTING IN THE NFL????


This goes beyond the normal Caste shenanigans, this is more along the lines of a retarded pigeonflying overa picture of random blacks and pooping onthe one that happens to be Jackson and that being the basis for selecting who gets to play. All kidding and frustration aside, Jackson could not start for most NCAA D1A & D1AA teams and here he is 13 Starts and 2 seasons into his NFL "career".
 

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reclaimsocal said:
All kidding and frustration aside, Jackson could not start for most NCAA D1A & D1AA teams and here he is 13 Starts and 2 seasons into his NFL "career".

And about to make the playoffs to boot. How about a Tarvaris - Young Super Bowl? Anybody?

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Kevin Love said:
All he does is win games. This year: 8-4


Lets look at those games....


Week 1 at home versus Atlanta. The Vikings won despite Jackson completing a meager 56.5% of his passes for a dismal 7.1 yards per completion with 1 TD and 1 INT. I don't see how the Vikings could have lost this game with or without #7 at the helm.


Verdict - Jackson did more to hurt the Vikings then he did to help then earn this win.


Week 2 on the road in Detriot. The Vikings lost a close game despite Jackson completing a Junior Varsity like 51.5% of his passes for a Pop Warneresque 5.0 yards per completion with 4 interceptions and 1 rushingTouchdown. Amazingly the Vikings were still able to keep this game competitive.


Verdict - Jackson directly cost the Vikings this win with his horrible performance, which clearly is the first of the reasons they ultimately lost a chance to continue into the postseason.


Weeks 3 & 4 Jackson sat out with the first of his minor injuries that he could not manage to gut it out (although in his defense Childress was clearly using this as a chance to audition Kelly Holcomb). Both were close losses one on the road to the Chiefs and one at home to the Packers.


Week 5 was a Bye.


Week 6 The Vikings squeaked one out on the road in Chicago behind the first of Adrian Peterson's monster days on the ground. Jackson chipped in with a pathetic 39.1% passes completed for a laughable 5.9 yards per completion with 1 TD.


Verdict - Jackson kept this game closer then it should have been with his horrible inaccuracy and inability to get a passing game going against a Defense that was almost wholly occupied with stopping the ground game.


Week 7 saw the Vikings drop a game on the road in Dallas where Jackson completed an abosolutely abysmal 31.6% of his passes for an all time crappy 3.8 yards per completion throwing zero touchdowns.


Verdict- Jackson's inability to generate any aerial threat once again directly led to this Vikings loss, which was the second that cost them a chance at the playoffs, and led to his second benching of the year the following week.


Week 8 Jackson was benched for a Vikings 7 point loss at home to the Eagles.


Week 9 Adrian Peterson set the all time NFL single game rushing mark, and the Vikings pulled away for a big win at home against the Chargers after Jackson left the game in the second quarter with yet another minor injury. In his time in the game Jackson completed a pedestrian 50% of his passes for a lousy 5.3 yards per completion and managed zero touchdown passes yet again.


Verdict - Jackson had nothing to do with this victory, which occured after he had exited the game with an injury.


Week 10 Jackson ducked the Packers yet again due to a minor injury, in which the Vikings team as a whole failed to show up in a blowout loss.


Week 11 Jackson returned for a soft ball opponent in the Dismal Oakland Raiders at home, and put up his first respectable completion percentage of 77.3 for a meager 7.8 yards per completion and throwing in an interception and fumble for good measure.


Verdict - The Vikings squeaked out a victory at home against a far inferior opponent, despite Jackson's inability once again to generate much of a passing threat. Its pretty hard to give the guy credit for a victory in which he was responsible for zero points and two turnovers.


In Week 12 at the Giants, Jackson put up his first game in which he looked like an NFL Quarterback. He completed a season high 83.3% of his passes for 10.8 yards per completion and 1 Touchdown, with 1 Fumble (which was recovered by the Vikings).


Verdict - While its hard to say he won this game, he at least didn't hurt the Vikings whose Defense was the catalyst for this victory. I will at least concede that this is the first win of the Vikings season that you could point to and say at least he had more to do with it then not.


Week 13 brought a home game versus the Detroit Lions who were spinning out of control. Jackson again put up decent numbers with 75% of his passes completed for 8.5 yards per completion and 2 Touchdowns with a pick thrown in for good measure.


Verdict - Jackson can take credit for having a hand in this blowout victory.


Week 14 saw the Vikings climb out to a big lead over the awful 49ers on the road and hang on in the second half for a win. Jackson completed 64% of his passes for a smallish 6.5 yards per completion and a touchdown.


Verdict - Jackson once again was able to stay away from his trademark mistakes and ride the Vikings momentum to a victory.


Week 15 pitted the Vikings against the Bears at home. In this sloppy, mistake filled game Jackson completed 62.1% of his passes for 8.6 yards per completion and threw 3 interceptions and lost a fumble.


Verdict - If ever there were a game where a teamwon in spite of its horrible play from its QB, this is it.


Week 16 saw the Vikings in a pressure situation facing the Redskins at home in a virtually must win contest for the final wildcard slot. Jackson managed to complete 61% of his passes for a dismal 5.4 yards per completion throwing 1 TD, running for 2 more and throwing 2 picks in an 11 point loss.


Verdict - Jackson was one of many Vikings players and coaches that you could point to as being a reason for losing this very important contest.


Week 17 saw the Vikings playing for their playoff lives on the road in Denver where Jackson stunk it up for over 3 quarters before stepping up to lead a comeback that ultimately ended in overtime with his fumble. Jackson was back to his early season ways with a pathetic 51.6% of his passes completed for a comical 5.6 yards per completion, with 2 TD's and 2 Fumbles (1 lost).


Verdict - While one can point to his 4th Quarter as a positive, his first 3 and Overtime performances necessitated that 4th Quarter or this would have been a huge loss laid upon his doorstep. Instead it was only a close loss.





In conclusion, the Vikings clearly won the overwhelming majority of their games this season on the strength of their ground game and defense. The games in which Jackson managed to not be a total joke, the team had at least a chance at victory, and in cases like the second Chicago game, they clearly won despite his best efforts to give the game away. Those people who point to his record as a starter which was 8-4 (and really only 7-4 if you remove the Chargers game in which he was on the bench when the Vikings pulled ahead) either A.) Didn't watch the Vikings play much this season, B.) Are being intentionally disingenuous, C.) Don't understand Football or D.) Are parrotting others who are either A.), B.) or C.)


The Vikings QB situation was horrible this season, and still Jackson managed to finish 3rd on his own team in passer rating. He is clearly the best example of a team forcing a Black QB into a starting position for which he clearly isn't qualified to hold.


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reclaimsocal said:
He is clearly the best example of a team forcing a Black QB into a starting position for which he clearly isn't qualified to hold.

Yeah, this reminds me of when Jerry Jones drafted Quincy Carter because he wanted a copycat scrambling black quarterback like Vick.
 
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Carter was pretty good, a lot better than Jackson. One day though, Parcells cut him, instantly and without question. I assume it was because Carter had a bad cocaine habit.

This was one of the only times in the black ball era that a black player with a problem was dealt with efficiently. Instead of all the usual problems, Carter was simply gone, immediately.

It reminded me of when ESPN fired Harold Reynolds.
 

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I used to say Vick was the illegitimate son of Blank. Is Jackson the illegitimate son of good old Ziggy? That's the only explanation I have for him starting for this team. In my mind he is bare practice squad guy or 4th qb that does other things like Ray Lucas did in his first year or two with the Jets.
 

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Well Phil Simms who I usually have some respect for, said in the pre-season that he thinks Tarvaris was showing some signs and could develop into a solid QB. I'd have to disagree. Jackson has shown almost nothing and he has more than a season and a half of games started already. Jackson was a backup to Matt Jones in college before switching to Division IAA and then the Vikings reached for him in the draft. IMO he doesn't have a lot of QB talent.
 

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Ferotte is on my Caste Football Lambert League fantasy team. Maybe I should start him this week over Bulger who has had two awful weeks in a row no thanks to his OL. See you Tavaris. I wonder if they eventually give John David Booty the 2nd spot this season or early next season.
 

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Well the paternity test came in a Tarvaris isn't the love child of Ziggy after all. How quickly will he slide down the depth chart....
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Now that Jackson has been benched the Vikings have 7 white starters. That's more than the Colts!
 

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Positive that John David Booty has more potential than Tarvaris ever will. Ferotte is there to fill the gap until Booty is ready. Booty, Booty, Booty! Booty has some decent speed to boot...or to booty!
 

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Hey, maybe it's going to work out great for John David, cause everyone knows that black bruthas love "Booty calls"
 

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Anyone know if Tavaris Jackhole is the starter or was he just spelling the injured Frerotte for a game?
 

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Liverlips said:
Anyone know if Tavaris Jackhole is the starter or was he just spelling the injured Frerotte for a game?

he stepped in for an injured Frerotte, and gotta give him some credit, even if it was a fluke, he played pretty well.
 

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Hopefully Frerotte will be back for the playoffs. With 7 starters the Vikes are the least anti-white they've been since I can remember.
 

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Yeah it was probably a fluke; we shall see. I don't know maybe Tarvaris got better as a QB when he was benched (ala Donavon McNabb the last two weeks after being benched). If Tarvaris proves his worth and proves that he should be their future at QB; I have no problem with it.

I just want a fair league where the best player plays and the media, coaches and DWFs don't treat black players far better like the current state of the NFL.
 

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fluke? He only threw for 160 yards. AP rushed for more yards. How many chances does a guy get? So he threw for 4 touchdowns - whoppeee. That's great for fantasy football, but lets not act like he deserves any more credit than simply not totally blowing a gift-wrapped game. The guy completed 11 passes and on four of them the wore down defensive team allowed the reciever to run after the catch for many yards and into the end zone - big deal. Gus averages well-over 200 yards a game for the Vikings and has won. One game and all we hear from our Minnesota local idiots is how T-Jack should be the starter. Unbelievable.
 
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