Ryan Nall

Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by Don Wassall, May 15, 2018.

  1. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    22,421
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Pre-Caste System a big, strong, fast and elusive running back like Ryan Nall with proven productivity would have been drafted early, quite possibly in the first round. But it is always very difficult for White running backs to get an opportunity in the NFL. For every Christian McCaffrey, who had a famous NFL father and was the rare White RB recruited by a big-time program where his brilliance was undeniable, there are dozens and dozens of Ryan Nalls.

    Hopefully Ryan makes the Bears and eventually is given a fair opportunity to showcase his skills. This article is optimistic:

    Ex-OSU Beaver Ryan Nall predicted to earn roster spot with Chicago Bears: Report

    By Geoffrey C. Arnold

    The Oregonian/OregonLive

    Ryan Nall and Randin Crecelius are hoping to earn a roster spot with a NFL team this summer. Both players are undrafted free agents, but they have an opportunity of reaching their goal, according to separate reports on each player.

    Nall, the former Oregon State running back, signed with the Chicago Bears. According to a post on isportsweb.com, new Bears head coachMatt Nagy may have doubts about starting back Jordan Howard, particularly in his ability as a receiver. Nagy also said he plans to use "multiple backs" in 2018. Nall is a bigger and more powerful back than Howard or Tarik Cohen and the post noted Nall's ability to catch passes out of the backfield, giving him the kind of versatility that Howard lacks.

    "At 6'2, 232 pounds, Nall is able to play both running back and full back, and has done so throughout his tenure in Oregon. Nall's senior season alone produced 1,684 yards with 22 touchdowns. While he is a bigger back, Nall has deceptive speed and elusiveness, posting a 4.58 forty at the combine. Nall also excels catching the ball out of the backfield as he totaled 56 receptions for 563 yards and four scores in his collegiate career. His raw power and vision are evident on film, and he should be an intriguing addition to an already captivating Bears' offense."

    http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2018/05/ex-osu_beaver_ryan_nall_predic.html

    Highlights from 2016 and 2017:

     
  2. Extra Point

    Extra Point Master

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    3,918
    Ryan Nall had a Relative Athletic Score (RAS) of 8.21. This is very good as the scale goes from 0-10. He had a higher RAS than Derrius Guice, Rashaad Penny, Kerryon Johnson and Ronald Jones. That means, according to this metric, Nall is more athletic than Guice, Penny, Johnson and Jones.

    Penny was drafted in the 1st round. Guice, Johnson and Jones were drafted in the 2nd. Nall went undrafted, even though he was productive in college in both the run and pass game.

    Penny, Guice, Johnson and Jones are black. Nall is white. The reason why Nall went undrafted is because of anti-white discrimination and racism.

    If Nall is given a chance there is a high probability he will be successful in the NFL. Because of anti-white racism that's a big if.
     
  3. rockybleier

    rockybleier Mentor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2017
    Messages:
    509

    It would be nice to see some running back RAS scores from later rounds and other UFAs..
    From a few years ago, I’d love to see Zach Line vs Matt Asiata.....Line was so damn productive in college but had to move to fullback......Asiata, at least had a chance.....Similar size, different paths......
     
  4. Extra Point

    Extra Point Master

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    3,918
    Here's an analysis of Ryan Nall from the perspective of analytics. It's favorable.

     
  5. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    22,421
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    The same old crap. Yes, how unthinkable that Nall might be a better running back than the immortal Benny Cunningham or the midget Tarick Cohen:

    I've watched videos of running back Ryan Nall. He looks like a great fit for the Bears. Can you tell us how he performed during the offseason and if you think he has a shot at making the team?

    Scott K.

    With Jordan Howard, Tarik Cohen and Benny Cunningham at running back, rookie Ryan Nall's best chance to make the Bears' 53-man roster is as a fullback and special teams contributor. The Oregon State product caught the ball pretty well during offseason practices, but the big tests for him will be how he performs as a blocker when the pads come on in training camp and how he fares on special teams in the preseason. Nall possesses the position versatility the Bears like, and I feel he has the best chance to earn a roster spot among the team's undrafted rookies if he plays to his potential.

    https://www.chicagobears.com/news/chalk-talk-how-has-ryan-nall-performed
     
  6. rockybleier

    rockybleier Mentor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2017
    Messages:
    509
    Let’s compare college productivity, combine data, size and intellect with all 3 other backs mentioned......There would be no mentioning of moving to fullback for Nall......None at all....
     
  7. link

    link Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2017
    Messages:
    46
    His yards P / A college average is actually better than Saquon Barkley so for sure this type of talk is just related to him being white
     
  8. dolphins15

    dolphins15 Guru

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2017
    Messages:
    214
  9. Leonardfan

    Leonardfan Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2006
    Messages:
    11,669
    Nice vids - Nall looks fantastic. You can see his second gear once he gets into the secondary.
     
  10. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    22,421
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
  11. link

    link Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2017
    Messages:
    46
  12. dolphins15

    dolphins15 Guru

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2017
    Messages:
    214
    Nall got caught off balance and ran over. But the people who wrote that article don't know what they are talking about as that's not a pass protection drill, it's a special team drill. I guess the two long TD runs didn't make any noise for them.
     
  13. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    22,421
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Off topic, but if Nall was going to be flattened, good to see it was by Nick Kwiatkoski. The Bears' heralded first round draft pick, the smallish ILB Roquan Smith, still hasn't signed his rookie contract, and Danny Trevathan is sidelined again by an injury. Seemingly the Bears and of course the media and DWFs keep trying to bury Nick but it's proving hard to do. My gut feeling is that one way or another, this tackling machine is going to play a lot in 2018.
     
  14. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    22,421
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Nall is listed as the 5th string running back on the Bears' first depth chart. The "bright side" is that he's listed only as a running back and not also as a fullback. If he makes the team he's actually only a Jordan Howard injury away from seeing some action, possibly a lot of action if he does well.
     
  15. rockybleier

    rockybleier Mentor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2017
    Messages:
    509
    I read a report on how he has to leapfrog a crowded and “loaded” backfield......
    The likes of Howard, Cohen, Cummingham, etc are that intimidating???
     
  16. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    22,421
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Cunningham is a scrub. Cohen is a 5'6" third down back. The 5'8" Danny Woodhead was almost always called "small," "short," "diminutive," etc., but those same adjectives are rarely applied to Cohen.

    Howard has been a durable workhorse his first two seasons, a solid runner with limited receiving skills though he's supposedly working hard on improving in that area. Nall can run and receive, giving him the ability to play all three downs if needed. He should be seen as Howard's backup, or at the very least right behind Cunningham as Howard's backup initially if he makes the team and they don't otherwise screw him over. That's why in a best-case scenario, a Howard injury or fall-off in play, Nall could make an impact even as a rookie. But this is the NFL so. . .
     
  17. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    22,421
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    From what I've been reading, Nall and Taquan Mizzell will both get a lot of touches tomorrow night in the Hall of Fame game between Chicago and Baltimore. Nall is battling Mizzell and Bennie Cunningham to back up Jordan Howard. The media hype will center around Lamar Jackson, but Nall is the player I'll be watching.
     
  18. Silence Dogood

    Silence Dogood Guru

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2017
    Messages:
    103
    Location:
    Arizona
    I still don't get how they can pull this garbage off and no one calls them on it. In the last 3 years, Brandon Wegher, Zach Zenner and now Ryan Nall? Our guys are constantly getting the shaft.
     
  19. MrPoon

    MrPoon Mentor

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2013
    Messages:
    635
    Until a bunch if them band together and sue someone, nothing will change.
     
  20. MrPoon

    MrPoon Mentor

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2013
    Messages:
    635
    Until a bunch if them band together and sue someone, nothing will change.
     
  21. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    22,421
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I've posted a number of times over the years about how unrealistic that is at the present time and why. What is more realistic, albeit also not likely to happen, is for us to try to develop alternative scouting resources and alternative reporting of sporting events and personalities. That would take financial resources, though nowhere the kind needed to file and attempt to prosecute a many years long class action suit against the NFL and/or the NCAA and/or one or more of the scouting services that would almost certainly up end losing.

    That's what we should be aspiring toward, an expansion of Caste Football's reach. The alternative media is what's put such a dent in the system's stranglehold over the minds and hearts of the American People. And that's the only way to really get after the Caste System.
     
  22. TwentyTwo

    TwentyTwo Master

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2009
    Messages:
    2,122
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Before that (in 12') Nate Euchus was also purged....tore it up preseason (finished 3rd in NFL) only to be rewarded by switching to undersized Fullback at 5'-10" 212lbs where he got a few token carries;then faded away into oblivion.

    Absolutely pathetic Nall would be switched to FB/H-back....how many Fullbacks break runs of 69 yards?? And makes plenty of long runs on a consistent bases... James Connor is given the opportunity now with the Steelers...he's not faster than Nall.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2018

Share This Page