Reintegrating the Dolphins offense

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  1. referendum

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    Last year the Dolphins came pretty close to the caste dream team, an all black starting lineup, offense and defense. This year, though, the Dolphins offense will have a white QB, and their offensive line is in flux, according to one article I read. Whats interesting is that several of the Dolphins O linemen are white, and conceivably 2 might become starters, and Justin Peele is the backup TE who does see some action, so the Dolphins may have around 3-4 white offensive players on the field at one time, more than the zero they had at certain points last year when Culpepper was playing and Welker was on the sidelines.
     
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    Welker didn't start despite being the best receiver on the team. Mind-boggling. [​IMG] Edited by: TorontoArgos
     
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    To me it's mind-boggling that Welker even got a chance. Not because he isn't avery capable NFLtalent who has superstar potential, but becausecountless other white receivers haven't received a chance. Welker was one of several excellent white college wideout/kick returners during his time at Texas Tech, led by perhaps the best kickoff return man in college football history in Derek Abney, butWelker is the only one who made the NFL, and even then only after the Chargers cut him and Nick Saban almost did even after Welker did so well in his first season with the Dolphins.Welker kind of "slid through the cracks" of the Caste System, sort of like Mike Furrey emerging last season with the Lions thanks to Mike Martz. Edited by: Don Wassall
     
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    Yeah it's a damn shame about Abney. I can't believe no one's even given him another chance. Talk about wasted talent and athletic ability.
     
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    Good points Don. Normally a 5'9" White receiver wouldn't even be considered for the NFL. Yet, for some reason Welker was and he has made the most of his opportunity. But he was still their best receiver and should have seen more time.

    It seems like there are so many white receivers used off the bench compared to starting. Welker, Furrey, Bennett and possibly Gonzalez will be just a few receivers receiving the Caste treatment this year. Then again, we should be grateful they will play at all.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    The wide receiver position in thenfl should be 75-80% white, and that's most likely an understatement. The nfl's army of "professional" black wide receivers with (often comically) bad hands is as big a joke as the black quarterback experiment, yet is even harder for racially aware whites to see. USA Inc. is overflowing with white football players not getting anything near a fair opportunity.
     
  8. Guest

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    Off the Fins debacle and to the Hass debacle in Chitown the gimps in the media have him in a tight battle for the last receiver position. Its a complete sham he catches (over the heads of an afflete) every pass thrown his way and yet he cannot be fathomably better than the usual hands of stone Bears receiver (exception Waddle), yet the gimps still cannot place him and his average speed above an afflete on the roster.
     
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    I agree. White receivers almost always have rock solid hands, while blacks with their "unparalleled athleticism" drop easy passes. What use is that for a receiver?

    At most, these black "affletes" should be playing DB.

    In my opinion, 75% might be a bit much, but at least 40%-45% of NFL receivers should be White, compared to the 5%-10% we have now.
     
  10. White Shogun

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    What inherent advantage do you see that blacks possess that warrants their ownership of even 60% of NFL wide receiver positions? Are blacks athletically superior to whites, just not to the degree that the caste system purports it to be?

    I see no reason why the vast majority of positions in all sports should not statistically mirror the racial breakdown of the general population, with a few exceptions. Edited by: White Shogun
     
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    IMO different ethnic groups have slightly different talents. Most of us on this site agree that blacks on average are slightly faster for instance.

    It's really hard to know the exact rightful ratio. Don could be right about the receiver position being more than 70% white which is the U.S population if it was decided by merits alone. Whites have great hands and do better in the L drill, shuttles and 3 cone than blacks which would indicate NFL WR material in my educated opinion.

    I will tell you though that CB would be less than 70% white (maybe even less than 50%) because of the small speed gap (speed is essential to the CB position). I'm not entirely sure about RB but it would probably be slightly less than 70% white also not sure on that.

    I'm not sure where other races fit in but I would think that the great majority "of the non-whites" at the skill positions would still be black if it were decided by credentials. Blacks put more effort to succeeding at football than most Hispanics (who are a slightly bigger minority group) for example. Hispanics are more interested in baseball and blacks probably have more of an affinity for football based on better size.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
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    Whites have an advantageany timeintelligence plays a prominent role, as the continuing "black quarterback crisis" illustrates, along with any position that places a premium onexcellent hand-eye coordination.


    There are also more intangible variables such as one's ability to work within and enhance the team concept. But the only intangibles we hear aboutseem to be"loose hips," "game speed," and "room brightening smiles."
     
  13. white is right

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    One thing when the majority of receivers were white, body types of receivers were different. Every time I see the modern prototype receiver he seems like a guy that would have been a 110 meter hurdler in another era. When the Packers won their championships Boyd Dowler was their best receiver he would be Jeremy Shockey in todays era. Also the fast receivers were shorter normal sized guys like Bambi. When the NFL made the league less physical scrawny guys like Moss could catch balls by getting down field easily. Edited by: white is right
     
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    Whites are more than capable of playing wide reveiver. Compare 40 yd dash times between white and blacks. Even when whites are faster then their black counterparts they still aren't given a fari chance. Matt Jones comes to mind, so does Kevin Curtis.
     
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    I wonder how much the change in NFL rules to limit contact off the line on wide receivers has changed the 'prototype' at that position?
     
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    It has totally changed it. In the 70's I could only think of Harold Carmichael as a body type like what you see now. The best wide out in the early 70's was Warfield and he was a normal man at 5'11" and 175 or so. In the late 70's Largent was the best and he was similarly built. When Jerry Rice came along it seemed like every team wanted that long legged type guy that looks like a stork.. [​IMG] Edited by: white is right
     

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