Ranking the top White H.S RB Highlight Videos

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  1. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Ranking the highlight films:
    I'm going to play Rivals scout here- I'll rank as many white RBs as I can rank fairly before my eminent firing comes for being an honest well meaning person with no hate in my heart- I'd have no chance to last long there in that cesspool of hate. A 6.1 rating means the player is generally within the top 25 in the nation. A 6.0 means the player is within the top 50 players in the nation. A 5.9 generally means the player is within the top 130-140 players in the nation and a 5.8 means the player is in the range of the top 250-300 players in the nation. I've compared these guys game film to the top "all black" RBs in the Rivals 250 and I think these 7 belong there. The first 2 guys are phenomenal talents. I'm going to try to update this to a top 10 list soon. Then I'll fill in the gaps with measurements, statistics and 3 more highlight films! If anyone has suggestions of who I missed suggest here or PM me. I want to only include a top 10, so so far these are the only guys I've picked.


    1. Nile Knapp: Sherwood Christian Academy, Georgia (Top 50 Overall National Prospect- #1 All Purpose RB- One of the top 5 RBs in the nation, Rating 6.1)
    *Could use adding 10-15 lbs if he can keep his FREAKISH short area explosion. Outside of Barry Sanders, I'm yet to see a more agile human being. Georgia leading rusher.
    5'9.5, 185 lbs, 4.43- 40, 3.98 Shuttle, 38-VJ.
    225-2192 YDs-9.74 YPC- 14 Receptions for 113 YDs, 33 Total TDS.
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcDjmI10FRU[/Tube]


    2. Brandon Bourbon: Potosi, Missouri (Top 50 Overall National Prospect- One of the top 5 RBs in the nation, Rating 6.1)
    6-2, 215, 4.36- 40, 38 VJ, 3.97 Shuttle.
    174-2,406-13.8 YPC. I believe he led the nation in YPC for 2,000 yard backs.
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVSGT4P2bDQ[/Tube]


    3. Marc Mauro: Locust Valley, New York (Film Rating 5.9/ Prospect Rating 5.9/5.8? INC. Information)
    6'1, 190 lbs, 4.37 40, 4.22 Shuttle. Don't have any game statistics on this kid. I think with as many long runs as his highlight video had, his production's got to be super stellar! Has 4.37 speed and amazing game film. I'd say the GAME FILM is a 5.9 prospect ranking. However, I'm not sure if his actual rating should be 5.9 or 5.8, because I have no stats on him and he's a bit raw. He'll probably need to add a little weight.
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b721G-004Qk[/Tube]


    4. Drew Phillips: Boaz, Alabama (Rating 5.9)
    6'0", 185 lbs, 4.48- 40, 36 VJ, 410 Squat.
    2008: 317-2,200-7.4 YPC- 18 TDs
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9FCGxyf9lo[/Tube]



    5. Tommy Avers: South Lake Carrol, Texas (Rating 5.9)
    186-1,626- 8.7 YPC- 22 TDs, 38 receptions for 391 yards against top competition in Texas.
    5'9", 185 lbs, 4.5- 40, 4 flat Shuttle.
    Tommy Avers Amazing Highlights


    6. Matt Perez, Maine South, Illinois (Rating 5.9)
    5'11, 200 lbs, 4.5- 40, Squat- 540.
    192-2,246-11.7 YPC- 34 TDs, 35 receptions for 441 yards- 2 TDs
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8R6CBJMlbY&NR=1[/Tube]


    7. Dillon Romain, Don Bosco 2008 (NJ Gatorade Player of 2008)/ Blair Academy NJ (school of Dion Lewis) 2009/2010 (Film Rating 5.9/Prospect Rating 5.8)
    5'11, 210 lbs, 4.46- 40.
    2008: 206-1435-7 YPC- 25 TDs.
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05oN4AXMt3E[/Tube]


    8. Caleb Schaffitzel: Fair Grove, Missouri (Rating 5.8)
    6'0, 205 lbs, 4.48- 40, 505 Squat.
    Rush- 2,711 Yds-10 YPC, 40 TDs- 54 Total TDs, Missouri leading rusher.
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bawrEvb4c_8[/Tube]


    9. Dylan Chynoweth: Park City, Utah (Rating 5.8)
    5'10" 204 lbs, 4.4-4.5 range- 40, 34- VJ
    185 Carries, 2,261 Yards, 12.22 AVG., 34 TD's. Utah's leading rusher.
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JicO9FKTslE[/Tube]


    10. Rees MacShara: Boyle Co. H.S Kentucky (Rating 5.8)
    5'10" 180 lbs, 4.55- 40, 425 Squat
    269-3073-11.4 YPC- 42 TDs. Kentucky leading rusher.
    *Doesn't have great top-end speed, but has a nice burst, phenomenal production and great elusive abilities. The top 40 time he's posted is 4.55.
    [Tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io0qM9rOyP8[/Tube]

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  2. StarWars

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    Nice job TJR! I think the best way to contest the caste system is to compare highschool statistics and measurables as opposed to just showing discrimination and euphamisms of the white athlete only at the elite level.

    The reason we don't do that more is no doubt because some people have bigger and better things to do (Don Wassall), but most people are too lazy, like myself. Thank you TJR, Jimmy Chitwood, and Riddlewire for the highschool threads because that is where our true plight lies!

    You have 7 of the best white runningbacks here, but there are many more you are not aware of and many blacks in that top 300 that are probably no better than average. In Massachusetts alone, there are about 3 backs that could/ should be D1 halfbacks such as Ryan Izzo and Conor Ressel. Billerica, MA has a dual threat underclassman quarterback named LaSpada that has the talent to be a pro quarterback someday. Google him. Dracut had a huge dual thraed quarterback named Matt Grimard (he's got some off-the-field problems though) that also had pro level potential. I could go on and on but basically out of the top 300 runningbacks in the country, about 100-150 whites should be there.
     
  3. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Thanks, I'm glad you like the work I've done, but I must say Riddlewire deserves the most commends this year. His thread took the most research. I plan on updating to a top 10 when I get the time in the next few days!

    BTW, Ranking Dillon Romain a 5.9 with those stats might be a bit high, but he was the NJ Gatorade player of the year in 2008 and played the best competition in the state for Don Bosco. And his highlights are mesmerizing.
     
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    Steven Manfro looks like a beast but I'm not an expert so I'm not sure where he would rank among the other RB's. IMHO he deserves to get a D1 scholarship. As a Junior last season Steven rushed for 1666 yards on 193 attempts (8.63 average) and had 29 rushing TD's. Steve also had 41 receptions for 753 yards and 5 TD's.

    [tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdTbyj72tpY[/tube]
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    http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/mvmFy9OHgUq5AzZW_FXn0Q/football-fall-09/profile-steven-manfro.htm

    http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/mvmFy9OHgUq5AzZW_FXn0Q/football-fall-09/stats-steven-manfro.htm

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  5. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Steve Manfro, Cale Sharp, Zach Langer, Cam McDaniel and Max DeLorenzo graduate in 2011. I'm only ranking player's films who graduate in 2010, but I agree that Manfro probably has a top 10 highlight film for 2011 and will probably be ranked by me as a 5.8 or above as a prospect for that year!
     
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    I have more guys to check, among them are:
    Ben Emert: Wake
    Ben Brown: CMU
    Andy Erickson: Rice
    Ben Thompson: San Jose State
    Kyle Brunson
    Coulter Mastenbroek
    Kevin King
    Devin Droghei
    Kevin Brady

    Guys I've checked that have threads here, but don't consider to be in the top 260-300 players in the nation are:

    Brady Earnhardt: He has great speed measurables and strength, but lacks great instincts and seems to slow down too much when he makes a cut to be ranked a 5.8 or above. We all know if he were black though, that he'd almost definitely be ranked a 5.4 or above on Rivals with those measurables and pretty stellar stats. He'd likely have a few mid major FBS offers too.

    Matt Deiana: This is another guy with some nice measurables (although not as good as Earnhardt's) whose instincts and cutting ability didn't stand out to me to be ranked a 5.8 or above, but he's probably a 5.4 or above.

    Jake Cimolino: has good instincts and some power- with GREAT stats, but seems to lack the elite explosiveness that FBS teams covet, his moves are good by my scouting eye, but not "elite". I'll have to re-watch his film since it's been a while. He still has a lot of ability though- and I'd say he should be ranked a 5.5 or above- Top 750 prospect. The same goes for T.J Stinde, although less top-end speed and maybe 5.4 or above.

    I also checked Jacob Sealby and Tyler Caveness. I was pretty impressed, but don't consider them 4 star or higher prospects, but I'd say they are top 750 national prospects. Meaning 5.5 and above!

    I don't remember all the names off hand I've checked, but I basically have checked most of the white RB state leaders and white RBs ranked on Rivals and Scout. I still have to check the guys at the top of my list. This is still a work in progress and I may downgrade the bottom 2 guys to 3 star prospects- once I get back to comparing to the black 4 star prospects.

    Edited to add: Special thanks to Riddlewire for finding all the state leading rushers with stats to help me weigh this information. Nile Knapp is AMAZING!Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
  7. Rock&Roll

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    Hey guys nice work, just came accross another bad-ass from the state of Kansas on u-boob.
    I do not have the know-how regarding linking his video to this page so if someone would like to take a look at a kid named "Kyle Dunham". The kid looked pretty good to me, he plays Kansas 5A football which is the cream of the crop in Kansas. The same class "5A" in Ks.that QB Bubba Starling, RB Kyle Brunson compete in. Check this kid out and possibly link his video to this sighthe is a playmaker "Kyle Dunham" RB Topeka Seaman HS.
     
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    [tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DKbj5cCHrk[/tube]
     
  9. Toby Hillis

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    TJR, thanks for the list and highlights! I argue with (mostly idiot) YouTubers on a nightly basis and I knowI'll be referring to this list next time we're arguing thesupposed "absence"of white talent in high school. I have a name for you, another Caleb: Caleb Statham. Whats your opinion of him? Even white hating Rivals rates him a 5.2(which means at least a 5.8 if he were black), he runs a 4.4 40(again, on Rivals, which probably really means sub 4.4), and accepted an offer from Montana. Thoughts?...BTW you think Dillon Romain is maybe too high on the list, I say maybe too low! Dont forget, he lead his team to a NATIONAL championship, was the US Prep School player of the yearand, just as a gauge, his slower, smaller, AND less productive replacement, Tony Jones, is ranked (last time I checked)as the 14th best RB in the country!!! But I will say, there is something about Romain's highlights that do not overwhelm you like those of the guys you have listed in front of him.
     
  10. ToughJ.Riggins

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    I think Tony Jones is ranked a 5.7 as the #14 "All Purpose Back". He is not the #14 RB "overall" and is not in the Rivals 250, but is still ranked too high.

    I have watched Statham's highlights just a couple days ago and I think his ranking would be a 5.7 or so (a 5.6 at least) if he were black. I agree with you, he's a good prospect and I wish him luck for Division IAA FCS Montana!

    Romain should probably be ranked a 5.8 and just have made it into the Rivals 250 if it were fair I think. His highlights were VERY impressive, just not at the level of Knapp or Bourbon obviously- and either was his production- although he was still grand enough to earn NJ player of the year in 2008- playing for arguably the very best team in the state! His extra year at Blair academy (the school that Dion Lewis lit it up for before him) apparently did him no service. [​IMG]

    Toby thanks for the comments and I recommend you check out Zach Langer for 2011 if you haven't already done so! The guy is a FREAK talent!
     
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    I agree with your assessment of Dillon Romain and his extra year at the Blair prep academy. First, Dillon's snub the year prior are beyond the pale, but his year at Blair was primarily to get him more acquainted with "white friendly" positions, like safety. It's an outrage on its face.
     

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