Pro Bowl selections!

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    The Vikings stiff McKinnie was a pro-bowler, what a joke. The first GM to realize that the sumo hype is from a positve feedback loop of black players hyping black OL because of race wins. (see NE)
     
  2. Latspread

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    Pouncey has been a darling of the caste media and local DWFs since day one. Never before have I so freqently, and with no hint of irony or sarcasm,heard a center referred to as "athletic". The typical talking points were quickly picked up by "fans". Before the season even started, comments like "Justin Hartwig did alot with what he was given but he was always limited. Pouncey is just gifted, a freak" were common and regurgitated freelywith no apparent evidence to support theirevaluations. He was also given serious considerationas team MVP by fans and hosts alike on local sports radionear the end of theseason in spite of the fact that the team's assembly of black lard asses called an offensive-line has been an unequivicalfailure all year.

    As for his actual performance; I know he (and fellow caste hero Chris Kemoeatu) were humiliated byBills DT Kyle Williamsall afternoonwhen they met earlier this year.I don't follow closely enough togive a fair evaluation of hisother games but, then again, neither do theself-loathing idiotswho sniff hisjock. I seriouslydoubt the ability of DWFs and media caste lackeys to fairly evaluate a player once they put their rose-tintedblinders on.

    Speaking of Bills beast Kyle Williams, here's a quote from another one of those "glowing"articles aboutawhite athlete thatmakes more negative than positive comments about him.

    "Kyle Williams is at his best as a run stopper. At just 6'1, 306lbs, Williams doesn't look like the hulking figures of Vince Wilfork, Jamal Williams, Casey Hampton, or Pat Williams, some of the best run-stuffers of the past few years. In fact, he looks like a bouncer at a local strip club, a guy who played some high school ball and maybe plays beer-league softball."

    Huh? Kyle Williams has the prototypical DT build. Howcorpulentslobs like Wilfork et alare described as "hulking" and Williams as "a beer-league softball player" is beyond comprehension exceptwhen one understands the filter that all input must pass through before it is assimilable in the minds of those raised on a steadydiet of Cultural Marxism, black exaltation, and white loathing (whether self or other).

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  3. guest301

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    I am a lifelong Cowboys fan but I don't see how Center Andre Gurode makes the Pro Bowl every year. There were several times this year when Romo and Kitna couldn't even get a decent snap from the guy. Very happy that Jason Whitten made it in as a starter as he is the best all-around TE in the NFL and has been the last five seasons.
     
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    Vince Wilfork closely resembles a helmet perched atop a living room love-seat. He's six feet wide and six feet tall.

    Pat Williams, Jamal Williams, and Casey Hampton are a little less morbidly obese"¦they resemble a helmet perched atop a Lazy-Boy recliner chair (with strong emphasis on "lazy"Â￾).

    I work with a Steelers fan-boy who attends their training camp each summer. He said that Hampton is so blubbery and ill-conditioned that he will routinely "sit out"Â￾ entire defensive practice sessions for days at a time. He supposedly rides a stationary bike alongside the practice field.

    Hampton isn't even the best nose tackle on his own team"¦Chris Hoke, who has spent his entire career playing backup to Lard-Ass, has been far superior whenever Chubby-Boy is suffering from heart palpitations"¦I mean "injuries."Â￾

    Guest301 â€" speaking of Jason Witten, it was nice to see him end the season with 94 catches for 1,002 yards and 9 TDs.Edited by: Thrashen
     
  5. Colonel_Reb

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    Great post, Thrashen! Vince Twoforks and Casey Halfton infuriate me the most, as far as black DLs go. Superior athletes my White rear end!
     
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    First the Hillis snub: He has more TD's than Turner and MJD combined and the same YPC as MJD.

    FB â€" x-Vonta Leach (Texans)

    Games started: 5, 8 receptions, 91 yards, 11.4 avg, 21 long. 0 rushing yards.

    Jacob Hester-
    GS: 7
    Rushing: 26 ATT, 60 yards, 2.3 AVG, long of 6 yards
    Catching: 22 rec, 145 yards, 6.6 average, 21 long, 1TD.


    TE â€" x-Antonio Gates (Chargers), Marcedes Lewis (Jaguars)

    Zach Miller and Jacob Tamme both have produced twice as good as either of those. Actually ALOT of players have.

    T â€" x-Jake Long (Dolphins), x-Joe Thomas (Browns), D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets)

    IMO Andrew Whitworth should be the 3rd LT in the Pro bowl. He's flat out better than Ferguson.

    C â€" x-Nick Mangold (Jets), Maurkice Pouncey (Steelers)

    You're kidding right? Fatboy Pouncey makes the Probowl over Alex Mack and Dan Koppen?


    DT/NT â€" x-Haloti Ngata (Ravens), x-Vince Wilfork (Patriots), Richard Seymour (Raiders)


    It's funny because Kyle Williams has outperformed all three of these players.

    OLB â€" x-James Harrison (Steelers), x-Cameron Wake (Dolphins), Terrell Suggs (Ravens)

    Tamba Hali and Shaun Phillips got robbed. They've both outperformed the 'roid boy(Harrison) and the cripp(Suggs).

    MLB/ILB â€" x-Ray Lewis (Ravens), Jerod Mayo (Patriots)

    The murderer gets another Probowl even though Mayo, Paul Pozlusny and Steve Tulloch have all outperformed him.

    CB â€" x-Nnamdi Asomugha (Raiders), x-Darrelle Revis (Jets), Devin McCourty (Patriots)

    Revis: 32 tackes, 10 PD's.
    Asomugha: 19 tackles, 6PD's.

    V.S.

    Joe Haden: 64 tackles, 1 sack, 18 PD's, 6 INT's, 1 FF. Can you say screwed? Those two put together can't even compete with Joe Haden! But I forgot, he isn't holding up his team for money nor flashing gang symbols during gangs like those two.

    Antoion Cason: 67 tackles, 17PD, 4INT, 1FF
    Leon Hall: 44 tackles, 11PD, 4INT, 2FF
    Derek Cox: 49 tackles, 8PD, 4INT
    Johnathan Joseph: 42 tackles, 8PD, 3INT, 1TD

    FS â€" x-Ed Reed (Ravens), Brandon Meriweather (Patriots)

    Meriweather, eh?

    68 tackles, 6PD, 3INT

    Eric Weddle: 96 tackles, 0.5 sacks, 10PD, 2INT, 1TD

    QB â€" x-Michael Vick (Eagles), Drew Brees (Saints), Matt Ryan (Falcons)

    I see Aaron Rodgers got screwed so a criminal can be redeemed. Jon Kitna as well, really. And Jay Cutler. And Sam Bradford. All have better overall numbers than the quotaback.

    FB â€" x-Ovie Mughelli (Falcons)

    Come on now. Mughelli over Kuhn?

    WR â€" x-Calvin Johnson (Lions), x-Roddy White (Falcons), DeSean Jackson (Eagles), Greg Jennings (Packers)

    Larry Fitzgerald got screwed. Simple as that. He's put up better numbers with a revolving door at QB that DeSean Jackson AND Calvin Johnson.... I'm noticing a theme here. Fitz keeps his mouth shut, goes about his business quietly and busts his ass while offering to take less money to bring in more talent.... Those two whine and complain about their contracts.

    TE â€" x-Jason Witten (Cowboys), Tony Gonzalez (Falcons)

    Chris Cooley>>>>Senor Gonzalez

    I won't even comment on that joke of a "Probowl" Oline.


    DE â€" x-John Abraham (Falcons), x-Julius Peppers (Bears), Justin Tuck (Giants)

    Wow, poor Jared Allen. Puts up alot better numbers than Peppers yet gets the shaft.


    OLB â€" x-Clay Matthews III (Packers), x-DeMarcus Ware (Cowboys), Lance Briggs (Bears)

    Eh, whatever. Orakpo got screwed this year so Lance Briggs could be in.

    MLB/ILB â€" x-Patrick Willis (49ers), Brian Urlacher (Bears)

    Laurinaitis gets screwed, AGAIN. He's overall been more productive than Willis.


    Maybe they should rename it the Criminal Bowl, or Crybaby Bowl? It seems unless you commit crimes or cry and whine you're unlikely to get voted in no matter how productive you are.
     
  7. Westside

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    Looking at the lineups has my blood boiling. Man, please Green Bay lay a ass whipping on the Eagles. Which will send all of the sorry ass DWFs running home and either drinking themselves into a coma or hide in a closet and masturbate on what could have been.

    I once knew this Eagle DWF whose family was absurdly into the Eagles. If they lost, they looked and sounded like a member of the family had just died for a week! This was during the Randell Cunningham era.
     
  8. Colonel_Reb

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    DWF-ness is often wrapped up in team fan-ery. I was discussing this with a friend on the phone Saturday. People let the fortunes of the team control their emotions, which are usually in a constant state of flux. Allowing yourself to be a roller coaster of emotions is not a healthy thing for anyone, especially a man.
     
  9. Freethinker

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    TheAnimal: Great write up of the joke that is the Pro Bowl. They should just rename it the Toilet Bowl because it's full of turds.
     
  10. Electric Slide

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    The prevalence of team fan-ery is the reason why I believe most DWFs are not fixated on having only black players. If they could field an 75% white team and win every year I think most DWFs of that team would be elated. I agree they would want a certain percent to be black though, because they wouldn't want to be accused of racism ala the 2005 Houston Astros.

    The support for and subsequent high jersey sales of Tebow, Hillis, and Woodhead as well as the Green Bay "Kuuuuhn" chant, this year shows that fans are willing and able to support white players.

    All the other thing that are commonly reiterated at CF, that DWFs won't stand up to anti-white bias, the Rooney Rule, the forgiving of criminal athletic behavior, and supporting a team that's even 85% black is all true though. But, since DWFs are so team oriented they will support white players that play for their team.
     
  11. Deadlift

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    Neither Pouncey twin is large-framed... I've literally seen a bunch of White hosses that would put them to shame! Alabama's Barrett Jones' for example! In college, I've seen many White interior linemen that have huge upper-bodies and shoulders!

    You can't make generalizations that blacks are more physically mature or that black lineman are "always heavier/better built" than White linemen.. Look at Andre Smiff and Eugene Monroe (Jacksonville).. they have rather small arms and fat stomachs! Russell "Black Hercules" Okung didn't look "huge" for Seattle on Sunday Night!

    Yes, I'm not disputing that there are sumos' on all levels of football (and Andre Smiff is one of them of course), but how many blacks have a "better build" than the White man? There are some lighter black DTs like Stroud, Dockett, Seymour, Odrick.. is there a lack of Whites that are 6-4 and 290+ pounds? Then there's how many smaller black DE's like Juqua Parker, Robert Mathis, and, frankly, a bunch of others.

    The "scouts" would probably say that the "prototypical DE" is at least 6-4 and 270 pounds, and, funnily enough, most Whites that are "allowed" to play are that size, while there are many many smaller blacks that are at the position! "Weird" huh? Look at White TE's, where almost all Whites are "prototypical size".. and black college TE's like Lance Kendricks from Wisconsin and D.J. (forgot his last name) from Arkansas AREN'T physically imposing. Contrast them with the physical-gifts of Tennessee's Luke Stocker! Interesting enough, BSPN's talking-heads are still treating (stud) Rob Gronkowski as if he's a "nobody" or a "no-name." Hmmm, he was highly-productive at Arizona, so what's the matter BSPN?

    Look at studs like Colby Fleener, Konrad Reuland (Fluid athlete; I think he could possibly play wideout!), Phil Lutzenkirchen and Zach Ertz. Then there's the injury-prone Kyle Rudolph.. The MSM would like you to think that ONLY guys like Jermichael Finley and Vernon Davis can "create separation," but that's BS. Sometimes, what's really going on is, teams don't use these White athletes' on deeper patterns when they REALLY should. That can hold-back the YPC average of White athletes. Then the MSM can "chime in" and say that they "aren't explosive-playmakers." It's just pure manipulation.

    BTW, here are the Rivals Profiles of the Pouncey "supermen": http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=2007&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=pouncey

    Mike, especially, is a total joke. They aren't exactly bigger, or better built, than White linemen....
     
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    RE Mike:

    I just have to post this.. Mike and his "non-large" frame:

    [​IMG]

    I know a couple of "Irish boys" that would destroy them, on the field or in the ring, take your pick! Wait, less we forget, maybe these are the guys that would beat Wlad or Vitali? My bad.. [​IMG]
     
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    I'm not so sure about that last part. Some older DWF's support the white guys and it depends on the team, too. Browsing the various NFL forums i've noticed certain teams fanbases absolutely HATE having white starters on their team.

    Alot of it is youth as well, growing up on the Madden propaganda where all of the highly rated players are affletes ranking in the high 90's while the white players(Outside of QB's) video game rank ceiling seems to hover around the mid-high 80's.
     
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    Great examples! The DE/DT one is interesting, it would appear when it comes to white DE's the prototype is 6'4", 6'5" and 270-290lbs. DT seems to have to be in the 6'5" 305+ bracket. Then you have the smaller black guys playing, but those teams are going for "a smaller, faster dline" when that happens. Which leads me to.... Smaller white DE's being projected as 3-4 OLB's at the "next level."

    Yet.. Ever notice the ceiling placed on them? We constantly hear how the 3-4 OLB's in the NFL "need" to be at least 6'3" and 260-275lbs, making these same smaller white DE's undersized for that as well. Nevermind the influx of productive black OLB's in the 3-4 in the 5'11"-6'2", 235-250lb range. Oh I forgot, those teams are going for a speedier 3-4 defense with those guys. The white guy has to first bulk up with 20lbs of muscle and not be as fast to play the spot.

    The MLB/ILB position is no different. James Laurinaitis was knocked all through 2009 as being "too small" to be a 3-4 ILB and "borderline" for a 4-3 MLB. Despite beingbigger than Rey Maualuga and Jerod Mayo, the "prototypical ILB's." Same thing with Pat Angerer. At 6', 240lbs he was just too small to be an effective middle linebacker in the NFL and would be a late round project. Ooops...

    Now I see that since Wes Welker is owning the NFL the prototypical WR is now at least 6'3" and 205lbs according to the scouts.
     
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    Angerer was universally panned as a "reach" by the Colts who was seen more as a special teams demon than as an NFL starter. Yet he played alot as a rookie (in part due to an injury to Gary Brackett), and excelled, looking very comfortable and knowledgeable.



    Brackett signed a long-term contract before the 2010 season, but his tackle totals have now dropped for five straight seasons. It's only a matter of time before Angerer replaces him; the only issue is if the Colts force him to go through a racial apprenticeship or not.
     
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    Polian doesn't seem to do that racial apprenticeship stuff too much it doesn't seem, so let's hope not.

    On the reach: HEH. I watch as much Hawkeyes football as humanly possible and watched his entire College career. Let's put it this way... He isn't a worldbeater at very many positions but he does EVERYTHING well. His instincts are off the charts and if you let him he'll go toe to toe with 320lb sumo olinemen in a physical manner ALL DAY. FWIW in my "amateur" opinion I considered him a late 1st round prospect when he came out and one of the safest picks in the entire draft and stand by it, no matter what BSPN critics wanted to claim.
     
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    Angerer can become one of the top linebackers in the league within the next few years. He has good speed(4.6 40), is a sure fire tackler, and has great instincts. The knock on him was his height being that he's only 6 feet tall but he has great bulk at 235lbs. Even the scouting sites acknowledge that he's a good athlete. He's also strong with 26 reps on the bench press.
     
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    Reminds me of Chris Spielman when he came out of college (OSU) I had seen a lot of the guy in Big 10 play and I thought to myself "that guy is a football player and will be good at any level" yet when draft time came around he didn't have good 'numbers' so the so-called experts downgraded him. He played with the label "overacheiver" his whole career. A long productive career that any fool should have been able to see he would have.
     
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    The height cracked me up, these are the same expects hanging off Jarod Mayos(6'1" if he stretches), James Harrisons(6' on a good day) and Lofa Tatupu's(5'11") jockstraps. The height knock only comes up with certain players. [​IMG]

    He's going to be a good one.
     
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    Good comparison. You can include James Laurinaitis in there as well. Looks like OSU standout Ross Homan is also receiving the same knocks as Spielman, Angerer and Laurainaitis as well.
     
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    wow, even rotoworld agrees:

    Saints MLB Jonathan Vilma has been named to the NFC Pro Bowl to replace 49ers ILB Patrick Willis (hand surgery).

    It's his third Pro Bowl selection. Though Vilma recorded 105 tackles and four sacks this season, his play fell off across the board. The Rams' James Laurinaitis would have been a better choice.
     
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    Here's another reason to root for the Steelers to lose today: Brett Keisel has been named to the AFC Pro Bowl. Players from the two SB teams (hopefully GB and NE) will not play in that game because it's a week prior to the big game.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81db1835/article/steelers-keisel-replaces-colts-freeney-on-afc-pro-bowl-roster

    Looks like the DWF's are in a rage because Tamba Hali did not get in. Glad someone reminded them Hali is a LB. Also, slamming Keisel for only having 3 sacks is a little unfair. Aaron Smith has never put up huge sack numbers and he'sgotten in. In the Steelers system, the 3-4 DE's rarely get huge sack numbers -- it's always about getting constant pressure and holding up vs. the run, while 3-4 OLB finish/get the sacks. This goes back to the Kevin Greene day and prior.
     
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    Check out this comment from a DWF on that link Truthteller provided.

    Keisel missed 5 games. If any Steeler player deserves to go it's Casey Hampton and Lawrence Timmons.... Not Brett Keisel.

    Casey Hampton huh? What has this lard ass done to deserve to be in the Pro Bowl? 20 tackles and 1 sack!!!

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    Keisel is vastly underrated as a 3-4 defensive end in the Steelers scheme. I won't deny the talent and drive Harrison has, but there is a reason the Steelers are so stout up front against the run and the OLBs put up such great statistics. It's guys like Keisel and Smith who do the dirty work that frees up the other defenders.<div>Keisel deserves it.</div>
     
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    Anyone watching this game? It's little more than two-hand touch. Meanwhile, Brian Billick and the rest of thecarnival barkers broadcastingthe gameare waxing poetic about how seriously the players take the game.
     

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