Peyton Hillis

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  1. Don Wassall

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    For some reason, I have Hillis on most of my fantasy football teams. [​IMG] Could be a fun day on Sunday:

    Jerome Harrison missed Browns practice Wednesday with a thigh injury. The extent is unknown, but he won't be a fantasy option against the Ravens in Week 3 anyway. The Browns may have to lean heavily on Peyton Hillis.
     
  2. GreatLakeState

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    If you have a CBS Sports fantasy league, we may have constituted the 1% that started Peyton the first week.
     
  3. Cassiodorus

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    An actual "mainstream" news piece about the imbecility of that little twerp, McDaniels:

    Josh McDaniels Looks Like a Fool for Dealing Peyton Hillis to the Browns

    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/14670

    "As the season progressed, a decision that wasn't on the radar nationally was what happened to Peyton Hillis. Denver football fans couldn't understand the disappearance of the second year back from Arkansas in the Broncos offense. Many Broncos fans had thought that Hillis was a superstar in the making after games which included a breakout 116 yard game catching the ball out of the backfield against Miami, and a ground assault of 129 yards on 22 carries in the second last game of the year in 2008 against the Jets. As a "reward" for his production, the NFL sophomore was given the ball only 13 times on hand-offs the entire season, playing primarily the roll as blocking back and only caught 4 passes out of the backfield despite his reputation for great hands going all way back to his college days. Hillis, in some ways, got the last laugh rumbling for 6.7 yards a carry for 47 yards against the Kansas City Chiefs. The mop-up duty in a blowout win was the only game he would get more than 2 carries in a game the entire year. His production in the contest again showed the Broncos faithful that he should probably be a bigger player in the offensive scheme."
     
  4. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Despite Hillis shinning and outproducing Harrison, Yahooligan white Rivals has this blatant lie to offer about Hillis. However, I think people are starting to wake up to the media agenda- as the poll in the aforementioned article indicates. I think some people are ACTUALLY SMART ENOUGH TO CHECK PERFORMANCE STATS FOR THEMSELVES.
    Click here For Yahooligan White Rivals News & Notes


    Yahoo Sports: Sep 21 RB Peyton Hillis is a strong back who can do things other running backs on the roster cannot. But putting him in space to catch screens is not one of his strengths. Hillis got that chance in preseason, but that was preseason. Those 12-yard gains are now three yards in the regular season. Hillis seems much better suited for short-yardage and goal-line situations.

    BLATANT LIE: Hillis is averaging 7.1 YPC on 7 catches- which is pretty darn good for a powerback- playing in an anemic passing attack- and 4 of his 7 catches went for first downs. Hillis also has a 100 yard receiving game to his resume against Miami when he was with Denver. Hillis is also averaging .5 over the league average in YPC with a 4.5 yards per carry average and Harrison is only averaging 3.4 YPC with 85 total rushing yards, but 39 of them came on one carry, so that would put his YPC under 2 YPC without the one big run.


    But right under the Yahooligan White Rivals nonsense is a polar opposite point from Rotowire:

    Sep 19 Hillis had eight carries for a team-high 35 yards, including a short touchdown, in Sunday's loss to Kansas City. Hillis also had three receptions for 26 yards.
    Recommendation: Hillis scored for the second straight week and appears to be coach Eric Mangini's choice when Cleveland gets close to the goal line. Hillis didn't fumble this week while starter Jerome Harrison did put the ball on the ground. Harrison received twice as many carries as Hillis on Sunday, but finished with just 33 yards for a 2.1 average. Harrison was upset he did not receive more work in Week 1, so perhaps the coaching staff was trying to appease him. The bottom line is that Hillis has been more productive than Harrison in each of the first two games.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
  5. Highlander

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    Yeah, but McWigger's supah-affeletic RB, Moreno, rushed for 54 yards on 21 carries in their last game. Yep, it must be that awful offensive line that McWigger claimed a couple weeks back was the reason for Moreno's anemic rushing stats last year...you know, the same offensive line that was there when Hillis ran all over the place the previous year.
     
  6. whiteathlete33

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    More good news.



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    Jerome Harrison appeared to be threatened by coach Eric Mangini Wednesday after fumbling in Week 2.
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    Mangini said that players who commit turnovers or penalties will be
    removed from the game. "I don't really see it as me benching anybody,"
    the coach said. "I see it as either you hold on to the ball and you get
    carries, or you don't hold on to the ball and you don't get carries."
    The coaches already don't see Harrison as a feature back and fumbling
    would be the straw that breaks the camel's back. He's a very weak
    fantasy option against the Ravens this week.
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    IT looks like Hillis will see a lot more carries this Sunday but in the affirmative action NFL they could bring back Jerome Bettis by Sunday to carry the load.

    Edited by: whiteathlete33
     
  7. celticdb15

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    So will ESPN show the highlight when Peyton trucks Ray Lewis' ass???[​IMG]
     
  8. Angelcynn

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    Hillis is pretty much the main reason why I decided to carry on following the Negro Football League. His performances in his 1st year really got me out of my seat with pure excitement and he is one of my main pieces of evidence when it comes to explaining to my limey friends why the NFL is so black and why white runningbacks are practically extinct. He is the media's WORST NIGHTMARE!!! GO HILLIS!

    Watch out for Jamie Dukes blatent racism when the highlights are shown for the up and coming Browns games on NFL.com. In week ones highlights every time Hillis was shown doing something Dukes just giggled, chuckled and did gorilla impersonations when Hillis celebrated his TD. I hate Dukes, I'd love to pop his lips.
     
  9. whiteathlete33

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    I was hoping Hillis would see about 20 carries on Sunday but maybe not.

    Browns coach Eric Mangini indicated that Jerome Harrison (thigh) won't practice on Friday.
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    Mangini expected Harrison to practice each day this week, but
    Harrison's thigh remains tight. While Mangini refuses to rule him out
    for Sunday's game, it sounds like Harrison could be dealing with a quad
    injury. Expect James Davis to see an increased role as Peyton Hillis'
    committee partner in a tough matchup at Baltimore.
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  10. SuperSpeed23

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    If the browns expect to win theyl have to give hillis the ball.
     
  11. whiteathlete33

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    In a fair world Hillis would get two thirds of the carries. I could see the slow James Davis(4.61 40) get the bulk of the work.
     
  12. Toby Hillis

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    Had to post this beautiful article and pic from Baltimore Sun. Ill give credit to Ravens DE Trevor Pryce who said:

    "He's a big back, but I don't think people understand that he's a fast back," Pryce said. "As big as he is, once you get 250 pounds rolling fast, it's hard to stop that train. He was able to get a full head of steam, and once you get a full head of steam, he wins. And we didn't tackle very well. But we'll get it fixed."

    OH WHAT A DAY!!!!

    PS- I keep thinking back to that article some idiot Denver Blogger wrote, "..and with Peyton Hillis suffering from reality" when he was reffering to Hillis' lack of carries. Anybody remember that article or know how I can find that idiots name, Id like to send him a message!
     
  13. Highlander

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    Another good article from the Plains-Dealer on Hillis' game against the Ravens.

    Maybe Hillis will make Clevelanders forget about, ummm what's-his-name that used to play for the Cavaliers? I can't remember his name now [​IMG].

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/09/victorious_ravens_defense_a_bi.html

    <h1>Victorious Ravens' defense a bit rattled by Browns' powerful Hillis</h1>


    <h5>Published: Sunday, September 26, 2010, 7:04 PM Updated:
    Sunday, September 26, 2010, 7:05 PM</h5>
    <div><a href="http://connect.cleveland.com/user/jvalade/index.html" target="_blank">Jodie Valade, The Plain Dealer
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    <div>[​IMG]Joshua Gunter / The Plain
    Dealer</span>The Browns' Peyton Hillis fights his
    way past Baltimore's Tom Zbikowski for a 48-yard gain in the third
    quarter Sunday. Zbikowski was also penalized for unnecessary roughness
    on the play, which set up the Browns' second touchdown in a 24-17 loss.</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>

    BALTIMORE,
    Md. -- For so long, the Ravens had become accustomed to their defense
    setting the tone in every game.


    They hit hard. They stifle and stall offenses. They are defined by a
    linebacker in Ray Lewis who dances like a rapper when he is announced at
    M&amp;T Stadium, who wears black war paint streaked down his face and
    who sometimes hits players so hard they crumble to the ground as if
    they've run into a semi-trailer.<div id="EntryStats"><div style=""><div id="m_fb">Then the Baltimore defense faced the Browns on Sunday. </div>
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    Although the Ravens held on for a 24-17 victory, the defense
    surrendered its first touchdowns of the season, gave up more rushing
    yards than they've allowed in years and felt as if the effort was a
    failure.


    "We just kind of felt like when they scored those two touchdowns ...
    it just sucked," Ravens defensive tackle Haloti Ngata said. "We just
    feel like we're better than that."


    So long, unscored-upon streak. The Ravens' 11 quarters without
    allowing a touchdown -- starting with the last two quarters of 2009 --
    matched the franchise-long streak set in 2000. They were 13 seconds from
    making it 12 quarters before the Browns' Peyton Hillis powered in a
    1-yard run just before halftime.


    In all, the Browns tallied 304 yards total offense, including 173
    rushing. Generating 144 of those yards was Hillis, the burly 6-foot-2,
    250-pound, third-year running back from Arkansas.


    Hillis not only set a career high Sunday, but his total was the first
    100-yard game against the Ravens by a Browns running back. His total
    was the sixth-most allowed by Baltimore since 2005.


    It wasn't that the Ravens didn't know Hillis was capable of such
    punishing yards. But seeing Hillis cut through the line over and over,
    finding small creases and exploiting them for big yards, made the Ravens
    take notice.


    "I guess he's a guy you have to see in person to appreciate him,"
    Ravens coach John Harbaugh said. "He is physical. I mean, this guy is
    hard to bring down. He's a north-south runner. And he's a guy we're
    going to have to contend with for a long time in this division."


    Hillis' biggest moment came at the end of the third quarter as he
    found a huge hole on the left side of the line -- helped by strong
    blocking from left tackle Joe Thomas and left guard Eric Steinbach --
    and powered his way for 48 yards. It wasn't particularly graceful
    running. He wasn't slippery or sly in the way he eluded tackles. But it
    was a run that brought the Browns deep into Ravens territory, and set up
    a touchdown that gave Cleveland a 17-14 lead in the fourth quarter.


    "With a big back like that, once he gets a full head of steam going,
    it's hard for anyone to stop him," Ngata said.


    After Hillis' big run -- and a 15-yard roughing penalty against the
    Ravens -- Joshua Cribbs ran the wildcat to a 19-yard gain. Suddenly the
    Ravens defense that was second in the league in total offense allowed
    was stumbling.


    "They kind of gashed us a little bit and kind of got us out of
    place," linebacker Terrell Suggs said. "But it's going to happen. We've
    got to respond and make the proper adjustments so teams don't get off on
    us."


    Said Browns tackle Thomas: "We felt it with their body language. They
    weren't jumping around and screaming. We were running the ball directly
    at them."


    They were rattled, no question. But it's the defense that defines the
    Ravens, and it reappeared in the fourth quarter. The Browns accumulated
    only eight yards in the final quarter, not a single one by rushing.
    Both of Cleveland's possessions in the final quarter were three-and-out.



    Still, with the Browns' second touchdown coming six seconds into the
    fourth quarter, the Ravens can't claim any streaks until next week.


    "As a defensive unit, we always want to continue that," Ngata said.
    "Hopefully, we can start another one and keep it moving."
    Edited by: Highlander
     
  14. Toby Hillis

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    By the way, I found the article by that idiot Denver blogger (Joe Tone)that I was looking for. In case you guys dont know who or what Im talking about, last year this moron wrote a very shortblog about how great McDaniels is, and how he did such a great job grabbing all these great runningbacks to replace Hillis. He mentioned that Peyton Hillis was now "suffering from reality" AKA "back to your fullback position, white boy" and it REALLY rubbed me and others the wrong way. Check out his reply to some of the comments if you really want to get [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]!!

    Anyway, I found the (very very short)article. It has the idiot blogger's email address hyperlinked at the top, in case anyone wants to letMr. Toneknow how wrong he was about Hillis and kNOSHOWn...send him some caste love--I know I already did!!!
     
  15. DWFan

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    Oh man, he sucks. [​IMG]
     
  16. whiteathlete33

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    If Hillis can be extremely efficient like this imagine what even more athletic backs like Luke Staley and Jervey could have done if given a fair opportunity. I'm not taking anything away from Hillis as he's a very athletic big back but Staley, Jervey, Sharp, and even Brian Shay were more explosive. They would have all been stars.
     
  17. backrow

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    maybe more explosive, but not as strong, punishing and powerful. and his speed is GREAT for a guy his size!

    [​IMG]Edited by: backrow
     
  18. jaxvid

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    CasteFootball officially OK's the mass media to start comparing Peyton Hillis to John Riggins!

    144 yds! When was the last time a white running back gained that many in a game? In all the years I've been here I know a couple of white brothers have gone over 100 but 144 is big stuff. Maybe Craig James? I hope it's not all the way back to Riggins.
     
  19. sport historian

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    Craig James biggest yardage day was 25-142 for New England on 12-22-85 in a 34-23 win over the Bengals. John Riggins went 32-165 for the Redskins in a 34-14 victory over the Cowboys on 10-14-84.

    The above information is from Pro Football Reference.
     
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    25 freakin' years!!!!!!!
     
  21. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Another great thing we should add about Hillis' performance for Cleveland is that we won't hear the "any RB looks good running behind the Denver o-line" marginalizations of him anymore.
     
  22. sport historian

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    Also, it's not like Hillis has been starting for 2-3 years and just now went over 100 yards.
     
  23. backrow

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    actually Browns o line is looking real good!
     
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    Victorious Ravens' defense a bit rattled by Browns' powerful Hillis







    BALTIMORE, Md. -- For so long, the Ravens had become accustomed to their defense setting the tone in every game.


    They hit hard. They stifle and stall offenses. They are defined by a linebacker in Ray Lewis who dances like a rapper when he is announced at M&amp;T Stadium, who wears black war paint streaked down his face and who sometimes hits players so hard they crumble to the ground as if they've run into a semi-trailer.
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    <DIV =pointer>Then the Baltimore defense faced the Browns on Sunday.


    Although the Ravens held on for a 24-17 victory, the defense surrendered its first touchdowns of the season, gave up more rushing yards than they've allowed in years and felt as if the effort was a failure.


    "We just kind of felt like when they scored those two touchdowns ... it just sucked," Ravens defensive tackle Haloti Ngata said. "We just feel like we're better than that."


    So long, unscored-upon streak. The Ravens' 11 quarters without allowing a touchdown -- starting with the last two quarters of 2009 -- matched the franchise-long streak set in 2000. They were 13 seconds from making it 12 quarters before the Browns' Peyton Hillis powered in a 1-yard run just before halftime.


    In all, the Browns tallied 304 yards total offense, including 173 rushing. Generating 144 of those yards was Hillis, the burly 6-foot-2, 250-pound, third-year running back from Arkansas.


    Hillis not only set a career high Sunday, but his total was the first 100-yard game against the Ravens by a Browns running back. His total was the sixth-most allowed by Baltimore since 2005.


    It wasn't that the Ravens didn't know Hillis was capable of such punishing yards. But seeing Hillis cut through the line over and over, finding small creases and exploiting them for big yards, made the Ravens take notice.


    "I guess he's a guy you have to see in person to appreciate him," Ravens coach John Harbaugh said. "He is physical. I mean, this guy is hard to bring down. He's a north-south runner. And he's a guy we're going to have to contend with for a long time in this division."


    Hillis' biggest moment came at the end of the third quarter as he found a huge hole on the left side of the line -- helped by strong blocking from left tackle Joe Thomas and left guard Eric Steinbach -- and powered his way for 48 yards. It wasn't particularly graceful running. He wasn't slippery or sly in the way he eluded tackles. But it was a run that brought the Browns deep into Ravens territory, and set up a touchdown that gave Cleveland a 17-14 lead in the fourth quarter.


    "With a big back like that, once he gets a full head of steam going, it's hard for anyone to stop him," Ngata said.


    After Hillis' big run -- and a 15-yard roughing penalty against the Ravens -- Joshua Cribbs ran the wildcat to a 19-yard gain. Suddenly the Ravens defense that was second in the league in total offense allowed was stumbling.


    "They kind of gashed us a little bit and kind of got us out of place," linebacker Terrell Suggs said. "But it's going to happen. We've got to respond and make the proper adjustments so teams don't get off on us."


    Said Browns tackle Thomas: "We felt it with their body language. They weren't jumping around and screaming. We were running the ball directly at them."


    They were rattled, no question. But it's the defense that defines the Ravens, and it reappeared in the fourth quarter. The Browns accumulated only eight yards in the final quarter, not a single one by rushing. Both of Cleveland's possessions in the final quarter were three-and-out.


    Still, with the Browns' second touchdown coming six seconds into the fourth quarter, the Ravens can't claim any streaks until next week.


    "As a defensive unit, we always want to continue that," Ngata said. "Hopefully, we can start another one and keep it moving."
    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/09/victorious_ravens_defense_a_bi.html
     
  25. White Power

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    Hillis I think finally showed what the caste system is all about. When given the chance a white man can play just as well or maybe even better than a brotha at the same position. I think the fans and the players will take notice after his performance, and maybe just maybe the question they will ask themselves is why don't we see more players like Hillis. And why in the hell would a player with so much talent get benched in Denver. You guys think Josh McDaniels dosen't look like a wigger to the average white fan today in Denver. Hillis's performance has to open the eyes of even the drunkest DWF's. So now I only hope that Hillis does not get hurt because he is the freshest breath of air for such a stagant leauge in need of white super stars based on their declining attendance.
     

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