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  1. dolphins15

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    If the NFL plays I am fully expecting just about every player to kneel, except maybe Villanueva and the few who played at service academies. If it's any indication JJ Watt and Zach Ertz's wife both kneeled today wearing black lives matter shirts. Ertz hugged a black soccer player while both were sobbing as the anthem played.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nwsl/news...ayers-kneel-in-support-of-black-lives-matter/
     
  2. Bucky

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    Fully expect them kneel as well. Nice optics for Mrs Watt and Ertz. Virtue signaling is on point.
     
  3. Bucky

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    Scam to New England is amusing, looks like all that talk about Stidham being the man going forward was BS.
     
  4. dolphins15

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    You very well could be right but I could also see them cutting him before the season begins as well. Never know with Belichick.
     
  5. Bucky

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    True, guess we'll see how much Newton has left in the tank. It seems all those years of scrambling and taking a beating have caught up with him.
     
  6. Don Wassall

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    Pretty amazing flip in one year from the perennial Caste Bucs being a team to root for over the Patriots. But, for reasons mentioned in other posts, it's still too early to definitively see how the Patriots will look this season. They could be anywhere from very black to still being one of the relatively Whiter teams in the league, as they could have several White starters on defense and maybe an overachieving receiver (Hastings and/or Gunner) in addition to Edelman, as well as a battle at tight end and Stidham the likely starter at QB.
     
  7. Bucky

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    Agreed Pats still have enough in the cabinet to root for. We'll see how it shakes out. Right now I'd assume Buffalo are the favorites to win AFC East with New England sitting 2nd. Miami and NYJ still a mess.
     
  8. Leonardfan

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    The patriots singing scam is an appropriate ending to their two decades of dominance. The fact the media is so giddy about this will make it even more laughable when he does not perform better than the average players he is - I hope those New England WRs like overthrows. Brady made many of those WRs better than they actually were. It’s too bad Edelman’s remaining years will be wasted.
     
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    I think the Cam signing was forced on Belichick from Kraft. The Pats finally get their black QB "savior"
     
  10. la piovra

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    Its become blatant at this point, I'm curious to see if attendance declines for the season. With 50 million+ unemployed plus the in your face push I wouldn't be surprised if a drop occurs in viewership and definitely attendance.
     
  11. DWF Upside

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    It will decline alright at this rate they will probably have us locked down and starving. That is unless there is a gay parade or riot to attend to.
     
  12. la piovra

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    Yeah I don't see the NFL viewership increasing unless they pull another quarantine
     
  13. la piovra

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    Tbh i dont even care that they signed Newton. I'll be more upset if they don't utilize Vitale,Gunner O, or their 3 white D players as starters(Winovich,Simon,Allen). I also doubt Hastings makes the team. Tbh I never was a true believer in the Patriots being an anti caste team. I saw more promise with renegades like Martz, Kelly, Spagnuolo and to a lesser extent Mangini
     
  14. la piovra

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    The Patriots while playing the occasional overachiever have a much greater tendency to screw them over just look at what they did to Chas Gessner, Ray and Ross Ventrone, Zach D'Orazio, Griff Whalen, Jeremy Ebert,Alex Silvestro,Decker+Collie etc on the offensive side. Scooby Wright, Shea McClelland etc on the defensive side
     
  15. dolphins15

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    Do you think the NFL even wants people in the crowd this season? If attendance does go down do they want that embarrassment? Or would it just be easier for them to say we can't have people in the stands?
     
  16. la piovra

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    I would lean towards the latter. The fiscal incentives are marketing and TV based at this point. iirc tickets sales are a sliver of the NFL profit sharing
     
  17. la piovra

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    For example my point about the Patriots Im convinced that they kept some overachievers around as a marketing ploy to get people to buy tickets and jerseys. I can never trust Kraft who is a major fiscal backer of the Project for a New American Century. The only owner who seemed somewhat sympathetic to overachievers was maybe Georgia Fontierie
     
  18. la piovra

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    The social engineering is in overdrive as now it appears the Patriots are the media darlings.
     
  19. Shadowlight

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    I picked up the Street and Smith's 2020 Pro Football Yearbook. I sort of regret not buying the Athlon one. I can't imagine it being as caste tainted as this one?

    They are not the final word so the info I provide isn't set in stone. But it gives a general idea of where players might land this season. They provide two deeps for every team and one player for different special teams players like punt returners and kick returners (PR and KR). By the way I was on the verge of picking up their College Yearbook too until I noticed they didn't provide a two deep for every Power 5 conference team. Probably wait for Phil Steele's Yearbook but if I can't find it on the shelf in later July I won't order it by mail. Not paying 27 bucks for a yearbook.


    We are fully aware of the disappearing White safety and they only have one listed as a starter, Harrison Smith of the Vikings. They admit Daniel Sorensen played swell down the stretch calling him a jack-of-all-trades but come to the conclusion he "remains a great option in sub-packages." The correspondent Seth Trachtman who wrote up the Chiefs is full steam caste. He claims LB Ben Niemann is "limited athletically" and waxes ecstatic about LSU newcomer Willie Gay from LSU. This flies against logic as Niemann was used as a third down LB to take advantage of his range. He even manages to vaguely slight TE Travis Kelce suggesting he "compliments" the speedy wide receivers. Kelce is as good as any TE I have ever watched and was a stud way before these speedy wide receivers showed up.

    They write about new Raider's safety Jeff Heath as an afterthought and (mistakenly in my mind) think the Cowboys have "upgraded" at safety. We will see about that. Those are the only safeties listed on the two deep so pretty damn barren at the moment. Tanner Muse is listed as a back up MLB. Converted safety it would seem OLB would make more sense?



    Below is a list of WR starters and those on the two deep. Some teams utilize three receiver sets so don't assume all the players listed will get playing time this year. Also I will notate if a player is penciled in as a starting punt or kick returner. By the way Vikings free agent WR Dan Chisena ran a 4.32 40 right before the draft. Wasn't well publicized but I don't think that is surprising. One plus with this raw athlete is he has some special teams experience. Still a long shot.




    Starters:

    Cole Beasley


    Adam Humphries (PR)

    Hunter Renfrow

    Adam Thielen

    Scotty Miller

    Cooper Kupp

    Julian Edelman


    Two Deep:

    Trent Taylor

    Justin Watson ( PR)

    Chad Beebe

    Braxton Berrios (PR)

    Andy Isabella (KR)


    Trey Quinn

    Danny Amendola

    Alex Erickson (PR + KR)

    Cody Hollister

    Gehrig Dieter

    Gunner Olszewski



    One other note Taysom Hill is not on the two deep for WRs but is listed as starting (KR).

    All in all not terrible. Could be better but could be worse. It is important for the younger receivers like Renfrow, Miller and Isabella (and maybe a surprise or two) to mark their territory. We could be staring at yet another year of no White wide receivers being drafted so a young infusion is necessary until some white wide receivers start getting drafted again down the road which I hope and think will happen.








     
  20. booth

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    The Packers signed the 26 pick Jordan Love to a 12.38 million guaranteed contract. It is the most ever for a pick passed the 25 pick. He also gets a 6.6 million sighing bonus.
     
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    I hope Rodgers has an MVP season, forces a trade, then leaves the Packers for dead.
     
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    Rumor is that the NFL games will start with the "Black National Anthem?" WTF is that? Right before the National Anthem! The NFL is sure giving me another reason to reject it outright.
     
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    Welfare for affletes .
     
  25. Leonardfan

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    It's getting pretty comical at this point. With this and now the black national anthem debacle I hope the league really feels the pain. I think it will turn off more NFL fans. Unfortunately for our cause I feel it will just increase the blackening of the league even further. Just look at college football - whiny, entitled affletes who view themselves as oppressed get triggered by anything and threaten to boycott team activities/sit out - we are seeing the caste system cannibalize it self but unfortunately all of these coaches are the ones capitulating rather than the other way around. My guess is there will be a strong push in the next few years to really blacken up the head coaching position (at the college and NFL level) and front office positions in the NFL to appease the unaware/entitled horde. Only if/when white head coaches/staff/recruiters start coming out en masse stating that they did in fact ignore white athletes along with white athletes corroborating with their personal experiences will there be any real push back. I also hope most casual white fans are fed up with millionaire blacks spouting political messages. At this point I would not care if the NFL went belly-up.

    The caste system pretty much just shows how what was implemented in sports is now coming to fruition in society as a whole. In sports everyone has to tow the part line of blacks are better athletes by recruiting them almost exclusively and now in society everyone must kowtow to blacks and agree with Black Lives matter or risk being ostracized by family, friends, employers etc.

    I think most of us here have been done with team affiliations for awhile and have narrowed our focus collectively on following and supporting white athletes so stories like the Redskins potentially changing their name will not have any effect on us besides enjoying watching the NFL fumble it's way through yet another PR crisis.
     

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