New Strategy on Fighting the CS

Discussion in 'Happy Hour' started by ToughJ.Riggins, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. ToughJ.Riggins

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    I think it's time we bring this fight to mainstream message boards. We need volunteers to flood Bronco's message boards to use statistics and the fact that Denver had a 100% win percentage with Hillis last year too, to show he's getting screwed.

    I also think it's a perfect time to hit the message boards of the somewhat white friendly Packers' to recommend bringing in Hillis to replace Ryan Grant next year and to sign Eric Peterman to fill the Brett Swain role for the rest of this year (as Swain is lost for the season). Peterman would probably end up being a rich man's Brett Swain.

    We do a lot of arguing for white players in the CF forums, I know a lot more readers read the homepage articles, but I rarely see more than 35 guests reading these forums at one time. To make a difference we have to bring this fight to the DWF boards to make as many as we can reflect on the BS in the NFL for even a moment. Someone should also post My caste system article and JC's article on Hillis and Kmic in the "Are All the Players Black" thread started by a DWF on CBSsports' NFLdraftscout.

    Anyone who decides to argue on their own- give me links to help you out. I would really appreciate the help. And you guys can pick any player you want to argue for and I'll try to help out with as many as I can!
     
  2. StarWars

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    I think the caste system cannot be stopped alone. It must fall with the whole of cultural marxism, and sports is just the tip of the iceberg. This is a political problem.
     
  3. C Darwin

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    an organized effort on a main stream board sounds like a good plan. when and where? i'm in!
     
  4. Tom Iron

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    Gentlemen,

    Excellent thinking, but too late. We have already gone beyond the idea of discussion. The lines are already drawn. You all have made your choice, what side you're on, and there aren't anymore people who can be convinced. People are with us, or they're against us. That includes people who don't care or are unaware. Not just those who are openly hostile towards our race and America.

    Tom Iron...
     
  5. ToughJ.Riggins

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    It's the unaware ones I'm trying to make see the light Tom. Even if we could get 10% of those people in our corner and give them the courage to speak up occasionally- it would make a difference. Somehow we are the "racists" and the Eagles offense and Redskins defense starting 3 whites out of 22 players are the righteous ones. Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
  6. Colonel_Reb

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    Tom, surely you don't believe there are no more people who can be convinced to join us? I have opened the eyes of quite a few folks in the last few years, and they are on our side of the fight. There are white out there with open minds and who are not pleased with what they see in sports. We can take advantage of that and win them over to our side. If nobody had an open mind anymore, then CF wouldn't be attracting new posters all the time. Your statement baffles me man.
     
  7. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Guys don't post my "Arguing the Caste System With Youtubers" 2 part article in the CBS NFLdraftscout DWF thread "Are All the Players Black" like I asked some of you via PM. I have written an updated version of the article relevant to this calender year with a few comments on Matt Jones, Hillis and Rivals' even worse rankings for 2010 at the end of part two. I also updated the Matt Jones and Drew Bennett situations for part one. I am going to post the new version in that forum- when I get around to it in a couple days! JC, you should post your HOF articles on Hillis and Kmic as well!
     
  8. jaxvid

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    I'll help, at least until I get banned. Can you provide a link to the site?
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    Some of the mainstream boards ban someone as soon as race is brought up. A tactic that is working and should be made more use of is making comments at the end of articles that malign or stereotype white athletes, or that simply present an opportunity to make the case for a white player.

    We can be more diligent about locating these articles and bringing them to the attention of others here. A good example I just found is this articleabout Miami offensive coordinator Dan Henning strongly defending Ted Ginn. Among other things he calls Ginn the team's only deep threat. Ginn is the DuhMarcus Russell of wide receivers right now and is very unpopular with the Dolphins' DWFs. The comments section is a good place to boost Brian Hartline, and point out for example that he's a former track star and showed just last game that he has the speed to make long catch and runs to go along with his good hands.

    http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2009/10/29/dan-henning-defends-embattled-wr-ted-ginn-jr/
     
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    I agree with Don. But as a secondary tactic one of us could go to the other side and use every damned stereotype descriptor in an over the top way to help discredit the drunks on these threads. I recently exchanged emails with a Packer beat reporter when he labled Havner as rumbling and I darn well know that guy is going to be defensive now that he realizes that not everyone is a DWF.
     
  11. Van_Slyke_CF

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    "I think it's time we bring this fight to mainstream message boards."

    Caste Football does a great job of this already. It may have ONLY 1,100+ members-not all active to be sure-but there are dozens of lurkers at any time when I log on. They are getting the message, whether they like it or not.

    I'm not saying that TJR doesn't have a good idea to some extent, it's just I wonder how much good it would do when you think about Don's comment that people get banned "as soon as race is brought up."
     
  12. Tom Iron

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    Gentlemen,

    Alright, as I said, I don't see there being much hope in all this, but if I may make a suggestion for when you go on these sites. Pose your thoughts as questions (I've mentioned this before). It baffles the censors. They don't know what to do with a seemingly innocent question.
    for example.

    Who would have thought a little nobody (you've seemingly disparaged him by calling him a nobody and raised your image with the censors) like that Danny Woodhead could get that lucky as to make that run/catch a pass like that? You've stated a question. But you've also planted a further question (was it all luck, or could a White guy really be that good) Plus, you've brought up his name to those who don't know him, etc.
    This type of argumentation works and it will also be helpful in not getting yourselves thrown off these other sites.

    Good luck.

    Tom Iron...
     
  13. ToughJ.Riggins

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    True, we shouldn't argue race right away. We can elude to it by using terms like very "undervalued". We should bring up cold hard facts.

    Here is an example of how we can make a fact based argument:

    "Give Hillis the Ball" Thread

    Hillis ran a slightly faster 40 at the combine than Knowshon 4.58 to 4.63. Knowshon is at 3.8 YPC so far this year. Hillis ran for 5 YPC last year and had improved to 5.9 YPC against a good Jets defense and 7.3 YPC against KC in the last two games after finding his grove. Hillis is the best on the team at getting the 1st down in short yardage and is the best receiving back on the team also. He scored 5 TDs in 3 1/2 games started which would project to about 23 TDs on the year. Hillis has a basically equal short shuttle time to Moreno and has a longer long run of 19 yards than Knowshon on about 40% less carries than Moreno. Hillis had 3- 19 yard runs in the same game against a great NY Jet defense and a 18 yarder against KC- so he has 4 longer runs than Moreno on 40% less carries. Hillis also had a 100 yard receiving game last year. Just because Denver is winning without Hillis doesn't mean we are better off. Denver won every game with Hillis last year- and I'm almost certain would have been playoff bound if he doesn't get hurt making that spectacular circus catch. Moreno isn't nearly as good as Hillis at this point and although Buckhalter is playing great, he isn't the all-round versatile back Hillis is. We should be using a Hillis/ Buckhalter combination, at this point, while we "slowly" groom the young Moreno to take over the aging Buckhalter's scat back role. We have pulled out some very close games this year. We need Hillis if we want to keep winning to get a 1st round playoff bye. Let's give Hillis the damn ball!

    If anyone needs a reminder of just how good Hillis is:
    Post Link of Hillis Youtube Video Here

    I am not ready to sign up to multiple message boards yet, but I plan on using this argument on 3 Broncos boards and on 3 Packers boards trying to convince the Packers to trade for Hillis to replace Grant next year.

    I have a test I have to take tomorrow afternoon, so I won't be ready to argue until tomorrow night.

    In the case of the CBS NFLdraftscout thread "Are All the Players Black" we can post some discrimination articles because race is already being discussed there. As I said- don't post my article b/c I have updated a few parts for this year!
     
  14. DixieDestroyer

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    I post on articles I see that bash White players, and would be willing to jump in on Comments for any other threads we find/share at CF. I like the idea of posing our thoughts as questions to dodge the cultural Marxist censors.

    Tom, I understand your doubts partner. It's beyond frustrating seeing the minions of castrated DWFs and the caste propagators. I put my primary "grassroots" focus on fighting the Globalist Elite agenda, but this is a worthy cause as well.
     
  15. foobar75

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    As long as we're throwing ideas around, here's another one. We know that CF is already the main forum to promote white athletes, while also exposing the Caste system. So, on the side, why not pool together some small $$, buy-up a few catchy domain names, and maintain a regular presence there to draw further attention to the issues?

    Off-hand, I can think of:

    -DanDierdorfIsARacist.com
    -ChrisCollinsworthless.com
    -CasteAnalystsAreClueless.com
    -ESPNSux.com


    It would be fairly easy to put content on the first two. Those morons are doing a game each week, and regulary insult white players while over-hyping talentless black players. We could simply post their quotes, and amend it with own our analysis of how wrong they are. It would be quite entertaining.

    The same is true for the other two. Since there are countless caste commentators on ESPN, Fox, CBS, NBC, etc, there would be a lot of stuff to talk about there, and each could be very easily rebuffed and defeated by doing fair and straight-forward analysis.

    For instance, Uncle Chris very clearly insulted Austin Collie two weeks ago in that game against TEN by calling him slow. We could've easily included Collie's stats from that game, along his combine results, to show that Uncle Chris was simply being a malicious racist when he made those comments, and there was no factual basis to what he said. We could've included Ted Ginn in our analysis to show that straight-line speed doesn't mean anything as a WR, when there are many other skills and intangibles that one needs to have in order to play the position in the NFL.

    We'd simply use their own quotes to expose their foolishness.Edited by: foobar75
     

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