Mike Hass

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  1. Don Wassall

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    Hass update -- looks like this will be his fifth straight season being screwed by the NFL:

    Q: How has Mike Hass been performing in the minicamps and will this be his year to show the NFL what OSU Beaver fans and the Pac-10 know about his ability to catch the ball? â€" Troy, Philomath, Ore.



    A: Unfortunately, Troy, Hass still is recovering from the shoulder injury that ended his 2009 season in the only game in which he was active â€" Dec. 27 at Green Bay. He has been taking part in the individual drills in the most recent practices, but has yet to be cleared for team drills. That likely won't happen until training camp starts in late July.


    While Hass has been on the mend, the pile at wide receiver has grown to include second-round draft choice Golden Tate and the free-agent additions of Mike Williams, Ruvell Martin and Sean Morey. Nate Burleson left in free agency, but T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Deion Branch, Deon Butler and Ben Obomanu are back.


    That's all another way of saying that Hass is up against it in his hunt for a spot on the 53-man roster. But what else is new? That has been the story of his NFL career. Still, it's difficult to shake the notion that he should be getting a shot on some team's roster, as we explored in this story last season.


    Here's a question for you: How many teams have a pair of Biletnikoff Award winners? With the Seahawks, there's Tate, last year's winner; as well as Hass, who won it in 2005.


    These now-teammates are in very select company, since the list of past winners also includes the 49ers' Michael Crabtree (the only two-time winner, 2007 and 2008), the Cardinals' Larry Fitzgerald (2003), the Patriots' Randy Moss (1997) and Bobby Engram, who won the first award in 1994 and then played seven seasons with the Seahawks.
    http://blog.seahawks.com/2010/05/21/a-little-qa-11/
     
  2. whiteathlete33

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    This guy asks the wrong question. Instead of asking how many teams have two Biletnikoff Award winners he should be asking how many teams how many teams have a Biletnikoff winner who has never seen the field in the regular season.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    So much for theidea of Pete Carroll giving Hass a chance because of remembering how he tore up the Pac 10. Hass has to be the most frustrated football player in the U.S. At least it was early in training camp; either a team gives him a genuine chance now or it's over for him:


    <DIV =blogtitle>Seahawks release Hass to make room for Pitcock
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    Wide receiver Mike Hass, a former Biletnikoff Award winner who spent most of last season n the Seahawks' practice squad, was released Thursday to make room on the 80-man roster for newly signed defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock.


    Pitcock is on the field this morning as the Seahawks resume training camp after taking Wednesday off. The former All-American from Ohio State spent one season with the Indianapolis Colts in 2007 before deciding he no longer wanted to play.


    He'll attempt a comeback with a Seahawks' team that already has pretty good depth at defensive tackle, but is looking to find players wherever it can under new GM John Schneider.


    Hass caught 220 passes for 3,924 yards in an outstanding career at Oregon State, but never has made it big in the NFL. He spent three seasons with the Chicago Bears, but played just one game.


    He got into one game for Seattle last year, but has yet to catch his first NFL pass.


    In other practice news, linebacker Aaron Curry is again not practicing as he apparently continues to be slowed by a concussion suffered in the opening day of camp.


    And first-round draft pick Russell Okung continues to be absent as well as the Seahawks hit their fifth day of camp.
    http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/archives/217023.asp
     
  4. PhillyBirds

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    I guess the silver lining is that he's being replaced on the roster by a white defensive tackle?

    Sucks, though.
     
  5. Leonardfan

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    Damn, I really feel for Hass. I don't know if he will be able to catch on anywhere else. I hope he gets a shot somewhere.
     
  6. whiteathlete33

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    The treatment of Mike Hass is just some of the proof that a caste system is in place. How can a young kid who was an absolute stud receiver in college not get any playing time in the NFL but 38 year old Joey Galloway can? Hass isn't very fast(4.59 40) but has decent speed for the wide receiver position. He has to be the only Biletnikoff Award winner in the history of the NFL to never get any playing time in the league.

    The Hass situation reminds me of Luke Staley. He was the best running back in college and was never given an opportunity despite great athleticism. When a white is the best player at a caste position in college he is always screwed in the NFL.
     
  7. Truthteller

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    I saw this coming a mile away, as I knew 2009 would be Hass' lastreal chance to make itinto the NFL. A few years ago I read an article in which a writer asked a big time NFL scout what he looks for when he scouts/scours the Arena League andCFL for potential talent?
    The scout said there is a "unwritten rule" inscouting circles: Any player who has not made it to "stay" in theNFL(as a starter or key reserve)by his 26th birthday and has been out of college for more than 4 years is basicallyuselessto NFL teams. With only some exceptions (mostly punters &amp; kickers) these olders players would be nothing more than pre-season fodder, if they were signed.

    Hass is 27 and 5 years removed from college.Iassumethe same "unwritten rule" pretty much applies for most players that have bounced around the fringes of NFL rosters and practice squads for as long as Mike has. Truth is, Mike's career, for all intents and purposes, ended in Chicago when he impressed the GM enough to make the team, but never got into any games.

    A notable exception of a white player who did finally make it 6 or 7 years removed from college and at the age of 29 (or so) is Chris Doering.But he is a unique case because his old college coach, Steve Spurrier, was the main reason he got back into the league for a few years as a fairly well paid backup. Hass will need the same sort of stroke of luck to make it back.
     
  8. Don Wassall

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    Read theincredibly ignorantcomments from the well-trained DWFs after this short article:

    Oregon State Beavers Comment of the Day: Won't somebody in the NFL give Mike Hass a chance?

    The news that former OSU wide receiver Mike Hass has been released by the Seattle Seahawks generated several comments from readers, including some that are hoping the 2005 Biletnikoff Award winner lands a job with another NFL team.

    Among the comments, The Oregonian's Aaron Fentress pointed out that Hass might fit in nicely with the Arizona Cardinals, leading at least one reader to envision a rekindling of the Derek Anderson-to-Hass connection.

    Said reader chadicus01:


    <BLOCKQUOTE>"Would love to see Hass land in Arizona (especially based on the fact I think DA (Derek Anderson) will take over that starting job no later than week 4 or 5). He's a heck of a receiver and has probably the best hands of anybody I have seen play on Saturdays in a long time. I'm a little surprised Pete Carroll didn't give him a little longer look-see. Part of me thinks it's payback for all those games Hass torched that USC secondary, the other half thinks (Seattle quarterback Matt) Hasselbeck just isn't the right guy to have with Mike Hass on the field. The last half, however, realizes that Mike Hass has been in these shoes before and will just work harder to make it happen. I think he'd be a great fit for any number of teams. The problem is getting those "any number of teams" to give him a chance."
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    OSU fans remember Hass going to his first NFL rookie camp with the New Orleans Saints with former USC tailback Reggie Bush as well as wide receiver Marques Colston, a seventh-round draft choice out of Hofstra. Long story, short ... the Saints cut Hass and kept the 6-foot-4 Colston, who went on to start 12 of 14 games as a rookie in 2006 and catch 70 passes for 1,038 yards and eight touchdowns.

    -- <a href="mailto:jimbeseda@news.oregoonian.com" target="_blank">Jim Beseda

    </A>http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbeaversbeat/2010/08/oregon_state_beavers_comment_o_40.html
     
  9. bigunreal

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    If Matt Jones isn't the poster child for the Caste Sytem, then Mike Hass is. Reggie Bush spoke up for him. Nate Burleson spoke up for him. The Bears' management publicly expressed an interest in seeing him on the field. Sean Payton didn't care. Lovie Smith didn't care. And now Pete Carroll ignores his own favorable comments about Hass, when the team signed him, and cuts him before the first preseason game.

    The most talented white WRs are being purposefully kept off the field. Hass is a better receiver than probably 90% of the clowns in the NFL. The Seahawks are giving the tortoise-like, complete bust Mike Williams a real chance to be the #2 WR. Hass, who is more skilled in every way, can't even make it out of training camp. Nothing exemplifies what we are up against more than that.

    Pete Carroll shows his devotion to this odious system with this inexcusable, but hardly unpredictable decision. It's a real hate crime that Hass is going to end his "career" without a single regular season reception.

    Tommy McDonald wouldn't make an NFL roster now. Fred Biletnikoff- the DWFs would laugh at him. Lance Alworth- maybe a slot receiver. Even Steve Largent would be lucky to carve out a Wes Welker role in today's Affirmative Action, illegitimate, WWE-like "sport." Edited by: bigunreal
     
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    [​IMG]The kicker is that most black players today aren't dedicated enough or in good enough shape to play on the teams from the '50s, '60s and '70s. Yet the media always repeats the mantra of "bigger, faster, stronger." "Fatter and lazier" is more like it.
     
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    This is the truth. Take a look at some of the players in the league that are excellent day in and day out, and you'll see the ones that work at it constantly, never sit out practice, and keep working after everyone has gone home for dinner. Most white players, such as Wes Welker, Brian Cushing, Peyton Manning, Andy Studebaker, etc are outworking everyone and the last ones to leave the practice field. Of course, not all black players fit the "lazy" mold, Jerry Rice, who will be inducted to the Hall of Fame today,was probably one of the hardest-working players ever. Chad Ochostinko, think of him what you will, he is always the first to arrive and the last to leave, according to friends who watch the Bungles. Walter Payton was also an incredibly hard worker. But the vast majority, the ones you are seeing pile up on the injury reports, are the ones who just "show up", their jobs are secured by their skin color. I've worked hard to instill the "love of practice" into my son, so that the "work" is fun. That's a key to greatness, besides a great deep, dark tan, of course.
     
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    Good posts, bigunreal, Don, and FootballDad.
     
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    The teams in the good 'ole days are far superior to today's product. The NFL was much better when most of the OL was stacked with White in-shape, athletic, agile, strong and tough as nails lineman than the lazy sumo's we have now, they make the game unwatchable. The "Hogs" type of line would be considered "too small" to play in today's NFL but I have NO DOUBT that they'd dominate today's overweight and out of shape defenses. There were many great White athletes playing skill positions too, I miss those days and will keep fighting/waking-up people until professional sports live up to their mantras that "the best athletes play" lie...
     
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    Let's face it, Mike Hass became our new Kevin Kasper. He was kicked around just as much- although their resume and style/talents were different. If Hass' eligibility for a practice squad isn't up yet, it soon will be. I think he's now ready to disappear faster than Kasper the ghost did.
     
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    Damn... poor Mike has to be the one of the most prime examples of how the caste system operates when arguing with DWFs. Hopefully the guy can fall back on his degree and revel in memories of his amazing collegiate career.
     
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    Kasper was in a different boat. He wasn't a Biletnikoff Award winner and didn't get nearly as much attention as Hass.
     
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    Kasper was a fairly productive FBS WR with striking combine numbers (workout warrior). Hass' measurables weren't nearly as good, but they were still adequate and he won the Biletnikoff for crying out loud. Hass would be an ideal #2 Flanker WR who could also be awesome in the slot. Hass is very productive and has great instincts, hands, toughness and work ethic to go with good agility numbers.
     
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    Sounds like Blair White, who also is studying to be a dentist. Too manygood qualities, which is why he'll most likely never get to play in the NFL. I expect the Colts to treat him as fairly as they did John Standeford, and the Colts are probably the best team he could have signed with after not even being drafted.
     
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    Oh no not again!!

    Seahawks re-signed WR Mike Hass.
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    Hass, 27, didn't find any takers on the free agent market, so he re-ups
    with the Seahawks three days after being waived. He's still low on the
    depth chart.
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  20. Don Wassall

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    The five year psychological torturing of Mike Hass continues. . .
     
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    This is worse than what land-walrus Mike Holmgren did to Jerheme Urban all those years.Edited by: Jack Lambert
     
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    What in the world are the Seahawks going to do with Hass now? This situation is infuriating.
     
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    Here is a list of Biletknikoff winners.

    <table ="wikitable"><t><tr><th ="#e5e5e5">Year</th>
    <th ="#e5e5e5">Winner</th>
    <th ="#e5e5e5">School</th>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>1994</td>
    <td>Bobby Engram</td>
    <td>Penn State</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>1995</td>
    <td>Terry Glenn</td>
    <td>Ohio State</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>1996</td>
    <td>Marcus Harris</td>
    <td>Wyoming</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>1997</td>
    <td>Randy Moss</td>
    <td>Marshall</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>1998</td>
    <td>Troy Edwards</td>
    <td>Louisiana Tech</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>1999</td>
    <td>Troy Walters</td>
    <td>Stanford</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2000</td>
    <td>Antonio Bryant</td>
    <td>Pittsburgh</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2001</td>
    <td>Josh Reed</td>
    <td>LSU</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2002</td>
    <td>Charles Rogers</td>
    <td>Michigan State</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2003</td>
    <td>Larry Fitzgerald</td>
    <td>Pittsburgh</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2004</td>
    <td>Braylon Edwards</td>
    <td>Michigan</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2005</td>
    <td>Mike Hass</td>
    <td>Oregon State</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2006</td>
    <td>Calvin Johnson</td>
    <td>Georgia Tech</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2007</td>
    <td>Michael Crabtree</td>
    <td>Texas Tech</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2008</td>
    <td>Michael Crabtree</td>
    <td>Texas Tech</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>2009</td>
    <td>Golden Tate</td>
    <td>Notre Dame</td></tr></t></table>

    Every single one of these players other than Marcus Harris was given multiple opportunities except for the one white who won the award, Mike Hass.
     
  24. Leonardfan

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    Hass was resigned to take the place of injured WR Isiah Stanback. I really don't know why he resigned with the seahawks, he will more than likely be the first WR cut when roster reductions have to be made. His agent should be doing more to get his name out there to other teams that need WR help. I hope im wrong but I really have no optimism for this working out well.
     
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    Several NFL Rosters are lagging at the WR position...his agent had to know this??

    Petey seems to be more intent with resurrecting the career of his boy ex 1st round bust Mike Williams.
     

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