Jeremy Wariner

[white lightning]

In case you guys missed it,Jeremy Wariner set the US and
the world on fire last year.He ran as a sophmore for
Baylor and went virtually undefeated all year long.He
won the 400 Indoor National Track Champs for college and
then won the College Outdoor Nat'l Championships.He is
probably the fastest white guy that I have ever seen and
I have folled track for a long time.Jeremy then won the
US Olympic Trials over all of the professionals and went
on to win the gold medal in the Olympics in Athens,Greece! Next year,Wariner will run both the 200
and the 400 as he has turned pro at only 19.His website
is at Jeremywariner.com

 

[Colonel Callan]

It's sort of disappointing that Wariner's "agent" is Michael Johnson. One could almost imagine Johnson trying to sabotage Wariner in case Wariner starts to move in on Johnson's record in the 400. Wariner's improvement will probably follow the usual improve - plateau - improve etc. pattern over the next few years. There has never been anyone his age able to run like this. Well ... there probably have been other white guys - who were discouraged, made quit the sport, or intimidated by being told that the sprints are only for blacks. Who knows how much wasted talent in many events has never even given track or other sports a chance? All due the brainwashing in place, set up to ruin the confidence of whites in all areas.

 

[Don Wassall]

Michael Johnson would have to be a genuine altruist to want Wariner to break all his records. This would be so even if Johnson was white, but the fact that he is black, and blacks in this country are nourished from birth to hate Whitey, makes it even more so -- and that much more unlikely that he will work solely in Jeremy's interests rather than his own.


Hopefully, Potter, Steele, Rock and others will continue their ascent. That will make it more difficult to derail Wariner in one way or another.

 

[Guest]

i don't know??? is he really white because he looks like he might be 25% or more black or hispanic??? if he's white, then it's clear he's trying to darken himself as much as possible to fit in with his "brothers."

they asked him on ESPN news about being white and fast and he towed the line. i would have said, "i'm glad i can be a role model to all the white kids out there who have been told they're too slow only becuase they're white."

he had his chance and blew it....he does no good for the "cause" because whites will not be awakened to the reality since he kept mum on it.

 

[Don Wassall]

Both his parents are white. I don't think he "blew" anything. It's great that he's the fastest man in the world in the 200. That makes him a great plus for the cause of white American athletes whether he's aware of it or not. The reality of his success exists and if he's smart he won't say anything racial because his career will instantly be over if he does. Plus, he's only 20 years old, he may never in his family life or schooling haveever been exposed to a pro-white viewpoint. We don't need or expect him to be a philosopher king in addition to being an incredible athlete; he's already a great role model for aspiring white athletes in this country by succeeding in a sport where everything is set up for whites to fail.

 

[JD074]

I agree 100% Don. I'm glad that we all have high
standards regarding classy behavior and racial
pride. But we have to remember that these guys
really are just "jocks". Sure, athletes can be smart,
but (as Caste Football has said, I believe) they
spend years developing their bodies, not their
minds. Yeah, I'm annoyed by Wariner's jewelry,
Kircus's high-stepping, Shockey's big mouth, etc.
They're not perfect.But their misbehavior is nothing
compared to the misbehavior of coaches and
executives all across the country who are not giving
white players the opportunities that they deserve. Or
the self-loathing, black-worshipping jerks in the
media- and worse, in the stands. That's where I'll
direct most of my anger, not towards these immature
young guys who don't have the intellectual
perspective that we have. Furthermore, if taking a
stand harms their career in any way, it is certainly not
in their best interests- and that's what matters most.
Nor is it in the best interests of our cause. Wariner
having a great career is what we we want the most-
and if that includes keeping his mouth shut, so be it.

Besides, they shouldn't need to say anything. We
are their voice, right? Let them perform in their given
sport. It is our responsibility to say what needs to be
said.

 

[jaxvid]

JD074 I agree with what you are saying but I also agree with Andreas. If the white athlete becomes nothing more then a "pale" imitation of the black athlete then what has been accomplished? Are we to be proud of Enimem because he is white and the best rapper so therefore a major cultural leader that is white? I think not. Wariners acheivements should be justly praised for being acheived by a white man but his style is certainly subject to criticism also.

 

[Colonel Callan]

Wariner is white. Look at him without the sunglasses. But he's typical of a lot of white kids in some ways - including his lack of awareness of the larger racial dynamics at work in the world. Right now, it's just good to have Wariner and Potter, Steele and a few others defying the stereotypes. That's a good start.

 

[white lightning]

One thing you guys have to keep in mind is that young kids today are similar to other generations in some ways.
In the 50's kids slicked their hair back with bandoline,
the 60's & 70's kids all grew their hair as long as possible & had pony tails,the late 70's to around 90 brought us the shorter hair,parted usually in the middle
and feathered back.The mid 90's - 2004 has brought us
the military look!Kids now like their hair as short as
possible and its not because they want to be like blacks.
It's not like Wariner has dread locks.Give me a break.We
need to cut him some slack.He talks like a country boy
and in intelligent with manners.Who cares how he cuts his
hair or if he has ear rings.Harley guys do too.All I'm saying guys is that we are probably alot older and we all try to fit it when wer young.I don't think he looks like a want to be and he sure doesn't act like one.

 

[Guest]

it's great that he's white and has accomplished these feats, we knew he could. the goal of this website, i thought, was to bring racial awareness to our people?

if all we do is have our white superstars sit back and tow the line or say nothing at all, especially when they are asked, it does nothing for our people. we need someone to come out and say it's okay to be white and be fast, it's okay to have black friends and teammates but not act like them to be accepted.

you know what i'd love to ask him? what's in his cd player? if he said anything with rap, then my suspicions are confirmed. listen to a Tim McGraw song titled, "Back When." that explains it all. he's more of a role model than Wariner. he's not even an athlete but he has part ownership in an arena football team located in Nashville. i'll be keeping an eye on his team.

Wariner had his chance and what i said he should have said was hardly racial.everyone knows how whites are looked at in athletics and for him to say he's proud to be role model for white kids who are told they are too slow was a gimme, nothing big on his part but he failed to do so.

a lot of people think like we do but are afraid to speak up and in doing so accomplish nothing but further setback. we need a voice with legitimacy and Wariner is that voice in the world of track and field. people want to be led, in general, and they want someone else to take that first step so they can follow. that's why we have too many followers and not enough leaders and because of this, we find ourselves in our present predicament. however, i don't believe Wariner thinks like we do.

so in the end, all he accomplished was gold medals that all here knew he could but the skeptics just brush it off and won't talk about it. how is this positive for our people??? how's he a role model to whites when dresses and acts the way he acts??? he's just an extension of his black teammates who act like 3rd graders when they win.

all white kids will do is copy him and then where are we?? more sell outs like Eminem. the point is not be white and accomplish something, the point is to be white, behave like a white person (smart, respectable and classy) while you do your business.

to me, Wariner is just another white guy with a cultural identity crisis that cripples our cause. what would get more attention, him saying what i said he should have said or this website??? he can make things happen.

 

[Don Wassall]

Andreas, you're wrong here on several points.

First of all, Eminem deliberately went into a black industry, one run by black racial consciousness, where for a white to succeed he has to "outblack" the blacks.

Jeremy Wariner is a country kid who wanted to play football and track at an elite level. He was denied that opportunity in football, and so concentrated on and succeeded in track. Comparing Eminem to Wariner is not a good analogy.

None of us know what Wariner's personal beliefs are. He may never have heard a heartfelt pro-white word or observation in his life, yet you want to hold him to your personal standards of conduct otherwise he is no good.

My observation of him is that he has his own unique style, not one that mimicks black sprinters. After the 4x400 win when he was interviewed on national TV, he referred to his three black teammates, who were standing beside him, as "boys." That was certainly politically incorrect, or maybe it reflects the comment of a young, still naive white kid. At any rate it doesn't matter, what he did was a tremendous accomplishment and is an inspiration to any white kid who dreams of being a great sprinter.

Unless he is an outspoken "whigger," it is ridiculous for this website to judge him and find him wanting. In fact it's just the opposite of what we're about. There are no white athletes saying that they are good role models for white kids, because you can't say that in this time in this society without having your career ruined.

Caste Football is about giving white athletes their due for their accomplishments as athletes and hopefully some day affecting change that ends the discrimination against whites on the playing field and in the media. But we have a long, long, long way to go before we have any influence on what is going on. What we are not about is picking apart every white athlete who accomplishes something and, with no evidence, dissing them as insufficiently "white."

What if some of Wariner's fans, or maybe even Wariner himself, finds this website, only to find Wariner criticized and attacked? This site is about providing a safe harbor for white athletes and racially aware whites, a place of celebration of them and their achievements in the face of the caste system. We're not about speculating on their personal beliefs and demanding that they speak the words that we few want to hear.

If you're going to be about criticizing Jeremy Wariner after what he did this year, I venture to suggest that there is nothing a white athlete could accomplish that you wouldn't somehow turn into a negative.

 

[white lightning]

Great post donwas.Thats exactly my point of view.We need to celebrate the performances because they are few and
far between.How ever,by these acheivements on & off the
field,white kids will find new stars to try to emmulate.
White kids struggle for identity these days and we all
know there are many reasons to blame including sports.We
need all the white sports stars to step up so kids today
will want to be the next Wariner,Forsey,Stokely,M.Miller.
These elite white athletes are to be celebrated for fighting the caste system against incredible odds and
actually coming out on top.I look forward to everyones
posts on here,it really makes my day guys.I hope you
guys also like what I bring to the group.

 

[Colonel Callan]

Wariner is - probably - unaware of what is going on right now, in terms of the assault on whites, on the West. All I'm doing is reiterating something I said earlier. WE are aware, but we are the minority among whites, at the moment. Let Wariner and others shine, it can only help us in the long run.

 

[JD074]

Exactly. Let them shine. His superb athletic
achievements are worth way too much to be
disregarded as "worthless". What we should
disregard is the laughable idea that his personal
appearance, or some politically correct comment in
some article that almost nobody has read anyway,
are more important than his athletic feats.

Way to go, Jeremy!

Here's what I want from a white athlete:

-Be superb in your chosen sport
-Don't commit crimes, especially violent ones
-Pass drug tests

As annoying as an end zone celebration may be, it's
nothing compared to drunk diving, beating up your
girlfriend, smoking crack, or testing positive for a
designer steroid.

 

[Don Wassall]

Couldn't agree more. And when there are tens of thousands of knowledgeable supporters coming to Caste Football every day instead of a hundred or so, and lots of white athletes of every kind have not only read our posts but all the information on the site itself, then we will be starting to create the environment where a white athlete can begin to publicly stick up for himself and also state that he regards himself as a role model for white kids if he is succeeding at one of the caste system's segregated positions. And if they won't go that far or don't see it the way we do, just stay out of trouble and be a good person like the vast majority already are.

 

[Black Guy]

Michael Johnson would have to be a genuine altruist to want Wariner to break all his records. This would be so even if Johnson was white, but the fact that he is black, and blacks in this country are nourished from birth to hate Whitey, makes it even more so -- and that much more unlikely that he will work solely in Jeremy's interests rather than his own.


Hopefully, Potter, Steele, Rock and others will continue their ascent. That will make it more difficult to derail Wariner in one way or another.

Don-


I have to take issue with this post here. Black people are not taught from birth to hate whitey. If anything black people are taught to do what the authorties in this country tell them and that black people who dont are trouble makers. Most black people I know obey what white people tell them and are almost scared to do otherwise.


Also you act is if white people still dont get taught that they should distrust and dislike black people. In 2005 people still have those same attitudes like they had back in the 50's and 60's.


Another thing with the Wariner kid winning is that if I am not mistaken his two teamates on the US team got the silver and the bronze right behind him. That means they were just as fast as him but he was the better man on that day. Im not taking anything away from Wariner but I think he is overhyped just becauses hes white one of his black teamates could just as easily beaten him.

 

[Black Guy]

It's sort of disappointing that Wariner's "agent" is Michael Johnson. One could almost imagine Johnson trying to sabotage Wariner in case Wariner starts to move in on Johnson's record in the 400. Wariner's improvement will probably follow the usual improve - plateau - improve etc. pattern over the next few years. There has never been anyone his age able to run like this. Well ... there probably have been other white guys - who were discouraged, made quit the sport, or intimidated by being told that the sprints are only for blacks. Who knows how much wasted talent in many events has never even given track or other sports a chance? All due the brainwashing in place, set up to ruin the confidence of whites in all areas.

Your kidding right. Why would Micheal Johnson sabotage his career? If he plans on doing that he has sure done a terrible job of it so far.

 

[bigman]

It is veryunfair and nefarious to characterize Michael Johnson that way.. Im sure that he has nothing but the best in mind for Wariner. Johnson is a quality person and a man of character and integrity. He and coach Clyde Hard have accomplished great things through hard work and trust. Johnson I would imagine is learning a bit as an agent just as Wariner is learning to train under a great coach. I would guess that like a mature adult Johnson has moved on emotionally from his WRs and is looking to make his imprint in helping Wariner. Just like you and I dont feel it necessary to go out and run as fast as we can or retain our former records... so Johnson has set his sights on being the best agent he can be for the athlete (Wariner) and his coach (Hart).


Besides that if you want to be shrewd about it (and I dont advocate this view) he has alot more $$ to make with Wariner succeeding.


as for other 400m talent in the US, it is quite true that Wariner is a solitary oddity in the 400. Aside from him even internationally let alone in the US there is not a single other 400m athlete near his stature.

 

[Don Wassall]

Black Guy wrote: "Im not taking anything away from Wariner but I think he is overhyped just becauses hes white one of his black teamates could just as easily beaten him."


You are kidding, right? Jeremy Wariner overhyped? Did you watch the Olympics last summer? When Wariner won the 400it received about five minutes of total coverage. Too bad he isn't a black swimmer.


Look, this site and this board first and foremostis for the people who support Caste Football. It's not about non-stop posting all day long by open opponents as well as some newbies whoare 50/50. There's been a lot of pretty ridiculous stuff posted in the past 24 hours along with a lot of boring repetition of the same viewpoint. This is a sanctuary for those who want to get away from the pro-caste system viewpoint that exists everywhere else. For those who don't agree with us there are thousands of other boards out there for you to post on.Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[Bart]

Black Guy Wrote: Most black people I know obey what white people tell them and are almost scared to do otherwise.


Yes, blacks are known the world over as being very law abiding and scared to death of white people.


Black Guy Wrote: Another thing with the Wariner kid winning is that if I am not mistaken his two teamates on the US team got the silver and the bronze right behind him. That means they were just as fast as him but he was the better man on that day. Im not taking anything away from Wariner but I think he is overhyped just becauses hes white one of his black teamates could just as easily beaten him.


I have been wondering if Black Guy really is black, I'm beginning to believe he is. No white guy would believe that the sliver and bronze winners were JUST AS FAST as the gold medalist. If they were just as fast they all would have had the same time. Most people understand the fastest time results in gold, a slower time the silver and slower yet the bronze. They don't give medals for woulda's shoulda's and coulda's.


I am going to campaign that asterisks must be placed next to the name of black athletes who edge out a white guy in any sporting event. After all the second or third place guys are JUST AS FAST as the winner and on another day might have won.

 

[white lightning]

You have to be kidding me.The kid went undefeated in
the NCAA Indoor Champs,NCAA Outdoor Champs,US Olympic
Trials,and thenn won 2 golds at the Olympics.No one I
repeat no one has ever done that or probably ever will.
Overrated,yeah maybe your posts & knowledge of things
is overated.LMAO!!

 

[bigman]

if Don is "caste"-ing me off this board then I am deeply offended.. I think some valid points are made in this forum and I admire the courage that many here have to bring some light to these issues... I think a pursuit of the truth only helps these issues. My comments regarding Jason White were well motivated.. thinking that every white athlete that doesnt get a chance is a victime does not help advance a more fair playing field.. likewise promulgating a notion that Michael Johnson isnt doing his best to help Wariner is not helpful to the goals as I perceive them of this site...


If Im not welcome please have the moderator send me an email telling me to get lost.

 

[Black Guy]

Black Guy wrote: "Im not taking anything away from Wariner but I think he is overhyped just becauses hes white one of his black teamates could just as easily beaten him."


You are kidding, right? Jeremy Wariner overhyped? Did you watch the Olympics last summer? When Wariner won the 400it received about five minutes of total coverage. Too bad he isn't a black swimmer.


Look, this site and this board first and foremostis for the people who support Caste Football. It's not about non-stop posting all day long by open opponents as well as some newbies whoare 50/50. There's been a lot of pretty ridiculous stuff posted in the past 24 hours along with a lot of boring repetition of the same viewpoint. This is a sanctuary for those who want to get away from the pro-caste system viewpoint that exists everywhere else. For those who don't agree with us there are thousands of other boards out there for you to post on.

Ok your right maybe I shouldnt post here anymore since this is a different type of site. But you have to admit that a lot of viewpoints expressed on this site couldnt not really be defended when questioned on it. I dont post non stop I come here like twice a day to check whats going on. I have alot of posts because people keep responding. In fact most of the busiest threads have been the ones I posted on because people keep respodining to me. But If I am being a bother I will stop posting .


You say this site is sanctuary as if black people own 99% of america and have kept white people down. When in acuality it is just the opposite. The one thing I dont get about this site is that even if white athletes are being discriminated against that is NOTHING compared to what black people have gone through. But if black people mention that they are accussed of playing the race card but all people on this site talk about is race when it has been shown the white athletes have been clearly andfairly out performed on the atheltic fields of play.


Also Im the only person here that shows any real dissent from what the site is teaching. How strong can your viewpoints be if one person can bother you so much. I dont even post on most of the boards anyways.

 

[Black Guy]

You have to be kidding me.The kid went undefeated in
the NCAA Indoor Champs,NCAA Outdoor Champs,US Olympic
Trials,and thenn won 2 golds at the Olympics.No one I
repeat no one has ever done that or probably ever will.
Overrated,yeah maybe your posts & knowledge of things
is overated.LMAO!!

Your right about that. I forgot about that. I read his life story before and he is a WELL accomplished sprinter.

 

[Don Wassall]

Black Guy wrote: "You say this site is sanctuary as if black people own 99% of america and have kept white people down. When in acuality it is just the opposite. The one thing I dont get about this site is that even if white athletes are being discriminated against that is NOTHING compared to what black people have gone through. But if black people mention that they are accussed of playing the race card but all people on this site talk about is race when it has been shown the white athletes have been clearly andfairly out performed on the atheltic fields of play."


Black Guy, I'll say again you conduct yourself very well and I have no doubt that you're a quality person who truly believes what you write, but youstill don't have the first clue about what this site is saying. The Caste System is white-created and white-promoted, just as most of the rest of the power structure in America is white-owned. The elites (mostly but not all white) play all races and groups off against each other, and the Caste System is just another example of it. To those in charge, we're all (insert n-word or your favorite racial epithet). Just look at how this nation is being plundered economically and manipulated in other ways from the top down to know that's true.


Whites are responsible for the Caste System, not blacks. Races have assigned roles, and some of us don't like the one that whites have been assigned in football and basketball, among other sports. Believe me, I understand that blacks are at the bottom of the totem pole and have been grossly mistreated throughout most of American history, and being dominant in the NFL and NBA doesn't change that. We would most likely disagree on why that is still the case 40 years after the dawn of affirmative action and the civil rights movement, especially when non-white groups such as various Asian nationalities come here and are prosperingwithin a generation, but that is beyond the scope of this site.


I think all the viewpoints you and other opponents haveexpressed have been very well defended multiple times by multiple people.


The problem I'mseeing right now is that as we're growing we'repicking up a fair amount of opponents and lukewarm at best supporters.I don't want half the posts on this board to be arguing the (same) black supremacist point of view and the other halfbe endless refutations Check the old thread in boxing that has lots of posts to see how ridiculous and counterproductive that quickly becomes. The reality is that there are tens of thousands of others out there posting on other boards who share the same point of view as the opponents on the Caste Football board. Should they all be welcomed here? The board is supposed to be about sharing information and views with supporters of the site, who by definition understand the Caste System and are opposed to it. I'm notagainst having opponents and want to be fair but if we're going to have opponents here it has to be an appropriate number and an appropriate number of posts, and I'm not sure yet what that is, if any, but it's a bit out of whack right now.