Is bolt on drugs

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  1. white is right

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    I don't think the scrawny 15 year old Bolt could dead lift 400 pounds. Not possible I don't care what kind of power he could generate. He had 12 inch biceps. Please, it would take a good year of lifting for him to be able to contemplate that. Anyway lets let more tall tales to be spun about Bolt. Soon he will have created the earth in 6 days.. [​IMG] [​IMG] Edited by: white is right
     
  2. albinosprint

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    I'm noticing allot of older Jamaicans out there running, and if that's not suspicious enough, I'm also seeing allot of braces on their teeth. smells to me like there is a new undetectable GH on the market!
     
  3. white lightning

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    Just like when half the US Athletes like the baseball players all had dental problems around the same time. Gee, it's just a coincidence. Yeah right. Catch these cheats.
     
  4. devans

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    At the 11 previous World Championships, Jamaica had never won more than one gold medal per meet and in 2005 its runners failed to win a single final.


    But in Berlin they have collected five golds, two silvers and two bronzes, with three days of action remaining.
     
  5. freedom1

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    What's disturbing is that drugs or not, what Bolt is doing is absolutely astounding. With results like this, how can drug use ever be stopped? They work, and they're working better and better. We're living at a time of increasing knowledge. The regulators will find a way to test, the chemists will find a way around it. Pandora's box is open.

    Drugs + Jamaicans = incredible results
     
  6. freedom1

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    Article from Track and Field News:

    But while Bolt has stolen the headlines at the World Championships in Berlin, his teammates have also been delivering on the track. Jamaica currently top the medals table with five gold, two silver and two bronze leading to one question: how do Jamaicans run so fast?

    There is nothing fortuitous about how this poor Caribbean island, with a population of just 2.6 million people, have made the sport of sprinting their own.

    Preliminary medical research has indicated that the so-called speed protein Actinen A is much more prominent in Jamaicans' fast-twitch muscles, meaning they are naturally better adapted to sprinting events.

    But what cannot be understated is the combination of a successful development programme for raw talent and a tradition that sprinting is a one way ticket out of poverty, and a route to free education.

    In 1971, former world record sprinter Dennis Johnson decided he wanted to pass on some of the knowledge he had gained at San Jose State University and set up a USA-style college sports academy in Jamaica.

    As Anthony Davis, Johnson's predecessor as sporting director at Jamaica's University of Technology (UTECH) explains: "Dennis had the opinion that the sprint is a bit like engineering â€" people can be taught how to do it."Â￾

    Johnson's speed academy offered scholarships to promising Jamaican athletes who he could develop on an individual basis, while receiving a free college education.

    Now, nearly 40 years on, UTECH students make up a quarter of the Jamaican athletics squad and the University has an impressive list of success stories, including Usain Bolt and former world record holder Asafa Powell.

    Davis believes that the link between athletics and free education cannot be ignored.

    He said: "You can't escape the fact that in Jamaica, many of these athletes are running to escape poverty.

    "Sport for many is their one chance to get a tertiary level education and make themselves a better citizen. Sport opens doors to Jamaican youngsters which would be otherwise closed for them."Â￾

    The UTECH programme is just one of Jamaica's assets when it comes to developing young sprinters. Perhaps more importantly, is the cross-island high school sports system, which sees 120 schools compete in a national championship, in front of crowds of up to 30,000 people.

    "The intense rivalry and standard of competition can give young athletes a massive boost."Â￾ Davis said.

    "Because our island is so small it's fairly easy to organise a national event with every school competing and the crowds are brilliant."Â￾

    These national high school events provide UTECH's coaches with a chance to scout the best talent from around the isle, although Davis says they are not necessarily interested in the fastest.

    He said: "Rather than trying to pick out the quickest athletes at high school level, our coaches look out for promising talent and then teach them the most effective ways to run.

    "That's why so many of the Jamaican squad run with a high front leg style. Asafa Powell was not the quickest athlete at high school level, but he showed signs that he could be moulded to run with a quick stride and he was eager to learn."Â￾

    The story of Jamaica's rise to a sprinting powerhouse has lessons which could even be learned by some of the world's sporting superpowers. Even with modest investment and facilities, phenomenal results can be achieved with the right grassroots strategy and attitude.

    "We've shown that you can develop world class athletes locally without the investment and facilities other countries have available to them. We are punching way above our weight."Â￾ Davis said.

    "We are at the stage now where Jamaica are going to dominate Olympics and World Championships for the next decade or so. With our current athletes inspiring so many young people to run, anything is possible."Â￾

    With young Jamaicans dominating the annual Penn Relays in the USA, and a generation of children likely to be inspired by the role models of Bolt, Powell, and Fraser, the future for Jamaican athletics looks nearly as bright as their yellow and green vests.
     
  7. white lightning

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    This is one of the strangest blogs that I have ever read. I found it by some comments on a video I was watching at youtube of a track race. This guy basically says that the Illumanait(New World Order) has control over who gets busted and who doesn't. They say that Wada and many other groups and countries are controlled by the Illumanati. I know alot about these groups but I have never heard or seen anything before now tieing them into sports. Very strange but worth a look. They say they are going to take down Lance Armstrong and Usain Bolt. Here is the link.

    http://doping-conspiracy.blogspot.com/Edited by: white lightning
     
  8. albinosprint

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    yeah, that's some nutty sh*t!
     
  9. freedom1

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    If anything, the establishment protects Usain Bolt for all the reasons already discussed on this site.
     
  10. DixieDestroyer

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    Bingo! The Globalist Elite controls the "Establishment" who propagates the caste system & pushes cultural marxism. Of course, the caste "Lords" want to keep Bolt's PED usage buried, so the myth of black "affletic" supremacy can be maintained & grown.[​IMG] Edited by: DixieDestroyer
     
  11. white lightning

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    Here is the video from the 2007 World Championships 200 Mens Final. Now as you can see, Bolt loses to Gay. Tyson Gay ran a championship record of 19.76! Bolt struggled despite only running in the 200 meters rounds. Gay had already run all the rounds of the 100 winning the title, and then all the rounds of the 200 to win that title. Here is my point. Bolt has went from a time of 19.91 to a 19.19 in just 2 years! That is an improvement of .072 seconds! That would be like Craig Pickering going from a 10.20 this year to a 9.48 in 2011! It is physically impossible without some of the best peds ever seen. No one can improve that quickly. It takes years to do that. He goes from losing to Gay to just destroying the whole world. It must be some pretty damn good yams. I need to get on that breakfast of champions. The cheating is so blatantly obvious. Yet the fans just say, oh he is just a freak of nature. Imagine what would happen if a white sprinter improved like that. We all know he would be tried as guilty without a trial. That is how it goes. Bolt is 100% a cheater i.m.o.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kr_XJ9XMbM&feature=fvwEdited by: white lightning
     
  12. white lightning

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    I fougot to add that he improved .061 in one year when he won the 200 at the olympics in China. Using Craig Pickering as an example. Imagine Craig improving his p.b. in the 100 to a 9.59 next season. Would people assume that he cheated? Off course they would but the majority of people just can't imagine their hero Bolt doing it. LOL!Edited by: white lightning
     
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    Anyone ever done any research on who handles Bolt and the Jamaican sprinting corps? Somewhere along the chain are some pretty smart chemists. I mean, what are these athletes taking? And why has it worked so well on Bolt?
     
  15. freedom1

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    Unger is fed up

    http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2008/08/german-olympic.html

    German Olympic sprinter cynical about Superhuman Usain Bolt

    German Olympic sprinter Tobias Unger appears not to buy what Usain Superman Bolt is selling. Unger put down a 10.46 in the first round, then a 10.36 in the second. Needless to say that was not in the same stadium as Bolt's 100M times. (BILD.DE)

    Unger340x German sprinter Tobias Unger (29) called the Olympic 100m men's final a "farce"Â￾ and cast doubt on the legitimacy of superstar Usain Bolt's win.

    Unger voiced his complaints about the Jamaican sprinter to BILD sport, saying: "Bolt didn't even warm up for the semi final. He showed up in shorts and jogging shoes, did his pickups and practice starts, put on his spikes and then ran the 100m in 9.92 seconds.1338fcd8710b4fc0965fa41eabca37c0

    "Bolt ran a time of 9.8 seconds in May and again at the end of September. He showed no tiredness during training,"Â￾ an annoyed Unger added.

    "They do whatever they want on their island. Nothing happens to them. I'm the only one here at the Olympics who is registering with the doping controllers."Â￾

    Bolt apparently didn't even know how to fill out the doping forms. The American sprinters' coaches actually laughed when they heard about German doping controls.

    Unger, who was cut in the semi-finals, threatened to quit: "I just don't have the desire anymore."Â￾

    Sour grapes, or right on?

    Unger studied sports science in Germany, so he knows a few things or two. His 100M PR is 10.22, and 200 is 20.20
     
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    Great artivle and I commend Tobias for saying what most are afraid to say. By the way, his 100 p.b. is 10.16! He knows all about sprinting having been in the sport for a decade and a half. Jason Gardner used to speak up all the time. Craig has tried to over and over but it made people hate him. Pickering thinks all sprinters should have a lifetime ban from the very first ped bust. I agree. At the most, you should get one last shot but lose your medals and records.

    Most people don't have the guts to say what these guys have said. Let me also include Carl Lewis. He has said the same things about the Jamaican Sprinters.

    Only time will tell what will happen. I would love to see WADA get more of the cheats. White, Black, Asian, whomever. The odds of that happening are minimal. Especially for the top athletes. They are always protected. It takes alot to take them down. Gatlin was busted in college but got away with it.
     
  17. waterbed

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    that writer is crazyhe did run in olympic final like this so now take of like 0.03

    0`-10 meter 1.69(1.85 with reaction time)
    10-20 meter 1.02
    20-30 meter 0.91
    30-40 meter 0.87

    so like a 4.2 40Yard I think
     
  18. Ankiel

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    40 yardsequals 36.576 meters. Unscientifically, you'ddrop thereaction time, thentake8.56% off of his 40 meter time.

    40m - 36.576m = 3.424m
    3.424m / 40m = 8.56%

    4.64s - 0.146s = 4.494s
    4.494s * 8.56%= .3846864s

    4.494s -.3846864s = 4.109s

    40 yard dash = 4.11 seconds

    It's unscientific because it doesn't factor in the push advantage of starting out of blocks,the slight headwind, or the disadvantage of not leaning at the 40 yard tape, or specifically preparing for a 40 yard run.Edited by: Ankiel
     
  19. Colonel_Reb

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    Good for Tobias Unger![​IMG]
     
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    He probably would put up an insane 40 yard time, maybe even break 4. But so would Craig Pickering and Marian Woronin. They are sprinters for a reason.

    You bring up a good point though. You can't just do the math like that with splits. He would be on turf, not bouncy mondo, and would not have starting blocks.

    The media's obsession with a 40 yard dash time is just ridiculous. That was not the standard we used to judge football players on decades ago. That was back when actual talent mattered.

    Who would've thought sprinters were really fast? Duh.
     
  21. jayo1980

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    WHY have so many ex-sprinters jumped on the bolt bandwagon.

    can understand how other types of athletes or public getting
    caught up in all the hype but nottop-tier sprinters

    they should know best of all these performances are enhanced by
    PED's
    maurice green , donovan bailey , MICHEAL JOHNSON , colin jackson,
    mike powell ,ato bolton ,


    all media whores and being veryexpressive in praise of bolt
    Obviously know what type of athlete they used to be and where
    they stand on use of ped's .
    CAN only assume used them at some stage of career and love to get
    there hands on whatever using .


    BIGGEST bunch ofhypocrits and all same , include white athletes aswell .
    can includeiaaf also ,put up this saintly front for public ,only a
    money making business for them


    And include bolt being biggest two faced ,hypocite of lot
    is reason enough to dislike him, besides fact his
    performances only stonecasts this ideal of black athlete and
    caste system.
    or besides all stupid playacting and attentionseeking crap.
     
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    DOES ANYONE else think , all playacting before 100m final only
    makes you want to turn off , if not already had.


    Itis not entertainment , if i want to be entertained can watch
    a movie or as media making out ,sprinting is so much better for it .

    IS it not enough to enjoy sprinting and competing without somebody acting up infront of camera like a twat .
    media can stop being p.c to these black athletes and call it like it is

    it is chest beating , a form of unsporting contact and sure
    puts other athletes off , it isnt nessary.

    all carribean athletes felt it nessary to do alittle act for camera ,
    only chambers and gay left it out ,
    so have to give gay abit of respect regardless if uses anything.


    IT ISAFTERALL sprinting and competing,

    not a popularity contest or who can pull best little move .




    Edited by: jayo1980
     
  23. white is right

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    Many are of Jamaican heritage and don't want to be ostracized by their communities. Jamaican's in Canada have had about the worst time of any ethnic group integrating into Canadian society. Those that do are often seen as sell outs in their community. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Yes this is similar to arresting the lieutenant of a criminal gang. You would think Bolt's reputation would be tainted or at least questioned. The media has said very little. Similar to Gatlin keeping company with drug advocates for coaches. Anyway Blake had a weird horse race type manner for his races like he was hopped up on beanies. Edited by: white is right
     

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