Heath Evans a tail back

[White Power]

I was hust reading an article by Len Pasquarelli talking about Lawrence Maroney having to carry the load for the Patriots because they dont have aproven back up then he mentions Heath Evans and says that "he also sometimes lines up at full back" I almost fell out of my chair. Now if this is true and Len would know then We have two white guys this year that will be running the ball now this is a good start fo the leauge but much more has to be done. It is about time the Belichick uses Evans to the best of his abilities which is as a power running tail back able to break tackles and yes even long runs. Man I beleive that the trend maybe changing for the better.

 

[whiteafflete15]

Yes it's true, I have mentioned Evans possibly carrying the ball for the Pats this season several times already. But don't get your hopes up. He will get some carries as the fullback, but the Pats love his run blocking abilities (I don't blame them, he has to be one of the top lead blockers in the NFL). He will aslo spell Maroney some as well, but he will split that duty with Sammy Morris, with Morris probably getting more touches. Also Kevin Faulk will be used in most all the third down/passing situations. Evans will probably get the typical caste role of short yardage/goaline back. Don't get overly excited though. Unless Evans gets enough opportunities to show how productive he can be,this won't be anything like the Leonard situation, where Leonard is firmly entrenched as the backup and 3rd down back. The Patriots are one of the few teams who seem to at least attempt to make judgments on talent and productivity alone. Otherwise, a guy like Bethel Johnson would have been handed the starting wide receiver job after being a second round pick for the Pats. When the Patriots signed Evans, I believe it was Tom Brady who said the team couldn't believe a guy like that got cut. (After being on roster run by cast whores Holmgren and Saban. Evans hardly ever saw the rock, despite being a 3rd round pick as a fullback and then was benched not long after for inferior, both in blocking and especially running, Mack Strong....I think)That is why the Pats didn't spend a high draft pick on a back or go after a higher quality free agent (no offense Sammy Morris. They knew what Evans is capable of.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

Evans played college ball at Auburn. that is the same school that produced current Cincy Bengal tailback, Rudi Johnson. in fact, they played at the same time.


it was well known that he moved to fullback because johnson refused to block for him, so the coaches asked Evans to block for johnson. this despite the fact Evans was MUCH bigger, MUCH faster, and averaged more yards per carry than Johnson despite getting most of his carries without the benefit of a lead blocker.

the black was rewarded for being selfish, and the white athlete has been punished for being unselfish. so much forthe "team-first" approach that so many coaches preach about.

 

[voice]

Heath Evans is very similar to Jamaal Lewis in his prime with both being power backs with speed.

The run he had in the preseason game was absolutely breathtaking. He has some serious acceleration.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Heath Evans official combine 40 time is listed at 4.56 at nfldraftscout.com. This was after having to bulk up to block for Rudi Johnson like JC said. I believe that Evans could have run a sub 4.5 had he weight trained for his proper role of being the featured RB at Auburn.

That being said Evans combine time is the same as Larry Johnson 4.56 and better than Shaun Alexander 4.58 and the virtually the same as the "speedy" Brian Westbrook 4.57 and the guy he will be blocking for Lawrence Maroney 4.55.

Here's a link to some research I did. Your average drunken fan would automatically think that Evans is slower than all the guys listed in the link.

http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5177&P N=1&TPN=1Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Coach B said Heath may see more of a featured role this week at the RB position! I don't know what prompted that, but I hope it happens! Keep your eyes open.

 

[Ground Fighter]

Coach B said Heath may see more of a featured role this week at the RB position! I don't know what prompted that, but I hope it happens! Keep your eyes open.

Maybe the little lightbulb above Belichek's head FINALLY lit up, and now he understands that the more White people he incorporates into the game, the better his team will be. It took him long enough.

 

[Thrashen]

Bellichick is FAR from an anti-caste coach...he's simply the best thing we've got at the moment. He knows what works, but for years he's bought into the caste system almost as much as every other moronic, unoriginal, thoughtless coach in the NFL.

Before Welker and Evans, Bill Bellichick only liked whites at QB, OL, DL, and LB. Sound familiar? So lets not get too crazy about his guy. That being said, Go Pats, I hope they win it all!

 

[backrow]

but he was also the one that got Heath Evans back on NFL roster, brought Kyle Eckel in, traded for Wes Welker...

 

[backrow]

Coach B said Heath may see more of a featured role this week at the RB position! I don't know what prompted that, but I hope it happens! Keep your eyes open.

where did you hear that Col? that would have been great!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

He said that to a reporter, I guess in a press conference last week. Rotoworld quotes him as saying it. It is in a Boston Herald article too. Maybe he will slowly get more carries, and maybe it is BS. Here's a snippet from the article.

Belichick indicated he wouldn't be afraid to use Evans in more of a featured role. The veteran fullback had a pretty good game against his old team in 2005, when he rushed for a career-high 84 yards on 17 carries.

"He has a different style of running than some of our other backs, but he is a good runner," Belichick said of Evans. "He has good vision, he protects the ball well, he has good power, he plays with good body lean . . . I would have no hesitation with the ball in his hands."

Evans, who loves the heat, wouldn't mind an advanced role on Sunday.

"It helps me," he said. "I love going home and playing in that good humidity. My back loosens up and I really feel good."

 

[backrow]

oh, ok, so it was before the Dolphins game. hopefully he can get more carries this week as well!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Yeah, when I first read it I thought it was from this week, but it wasn't. We'll see if Heath's carries increase or not.

 

[Bart]

All right. Everyone has been hyping the battle of the undefeated teams.The Colts will beat home, so do they have the edge? Will it be close or a decisive victory for the winner? Will Belichick run it up if he has the chance? Will Manning remember Dallas Clark won the Super Bowl for them and give him some throws for a change?


Edit: Probably should have put this in a new topic instead of tagging it onto this thread.Edited by: Bart

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I hope Dallas gets a lot of throws this week, for a couple of reasons. I don't know if New England will be able to put up a lot more points on the board than the Colts. I think the Colts will have some kind of advantage being at home, even though they are considered underdogs. It should be a great game to watch!

 

[White Shogun]

Belichek makes this one personal. Pats smoke Colts, win by 14+. Edited by: White Shogun

 

[Doc Holliday]

Evans played college ball at Auburn. that is the same school that produced current Cincy Bengal tailback, Rudi Johnson. in fact, they played at the same time.


it was well known that he moved to fullback because johnson refused to block for him, so the coaches asked Evans to block for johnson. this despite the fact Evans was MUCH bigger, MUCH faster, and averaged more yards per carry than Johnson despite getting most of his carries without the benefit of a lead blocker.

the black was rewarded for being selfish, and the white athlete has been punished for being unselfish. so much for the "team-first" approach that so many coaches preach about.

Great Info!!! If I was Evans I would have fought for the starting TAILBACK job & told Rudi Johnson where he could stick it..


Also remember hearing that Evans broke his ankle in college & kept playing, he didn't even know his ankle was broken until a teammate told him it was broke...One tough dude!!

 

[Don Wassall]

Evans would be a lock for 1,200 to 1,600 yards rushing if he started. Well, maybe not on this year's Patriots team the way they throw the ball.

 

[Stonewall]

It is an interesting and rather ironic fact that many supporters of white players live in the south, are huge football fans, yet are forced to watch teams that start extremely high numbers of black players.


My thought is if players like Tre Smith, Heath Evans, Hillis and Matt Jones of Arkansas, and evenHester and Steltz would enroll at the same SEC school, this would be quite a significant advancement for both white players and fans alike.


Just as Boston College is the ACC school that white players gravitate to, we need to have an SEC school that is known as the school "for southern white players". Imagine a team that started Hester and Hillis in the backfield with Kentucky's Lyons and Tennessee's Rogers at wideout.


It's time that some of the most ardent fans in the country have the opportunity to root for white players. It's not a pipe dream. Look at the BIg Ten. Schools such as Ohio State and Iowa are known for attracting top white talent while Michigan State is a bastion for blacks.

 

[Don Wassall]

Laurence Maroney (foot) and Kevin Faulk (head) were both injured during the Patriots' win on Sunday night over Buffalo. Which means Evans and/or Eckel will be featured if both are held out of this week's game.

 

[whiteafflete15]

Unfortunate/ good news. Sammy Morris, a hard-working, blue-collar black runningback, (of course no such thing exists according to the media)was put on Injured Reserve if I am not mistaken, meaning he is out fior the season. So unless the Pats sign another RB, and if Faulk stays or gets injured again, the Evans/Eckel combination will continue to run and spell Maroney as backups. I personally feel Evans is more natural runner (shame he had to bulk up with that type of speed and agility), and Eckel is more of the bruiser. But as Evans is the better run blocker, he plays fullback and Eckel play tailback in the 2 back set when they're in together. Also, I noticed Evans was replaced by Eckel in the goal lien power formation with Seau as the blocknig fullback. Perhaps the Pats now trust Eckel more as the power, punch-it-in runner.

 

[Stonewall]

Good points, wa15. Heath Evans is a prime example of the prevalence of the Cast System. Here's a legitimate NFL running back, who didn't even get to carry the ball in college!!


We'll have to see what Coach Belichick does if/when he uses Evans and Eckel in situations when the game is close. But, my belief is that Evans is the better "punch it in" runner. With Coach Belichick's ties to the Naval Academy and sense of loyalty, he definitely enjoys giving Eckel a chance to score touchdowns late in games (thus far versus Dallas and Buffalo, I believe). My thought would be if say, it was late in the first quarter and it was 4th and goal at the 2 yard line, he'd give Evans the ball.


It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens this Sunday night against Philadelphia. I'd like to see both backs get handoffs in the first half, especially when Brady is in the shotgun and there's one running back in the formation.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

I really think if Evans starts this week in the Pats offense and gets 20 carries this week, he will get 100 yards against the Eagles. They are 12th against the Rush, but aren't as good as their stats look IMO. Evans could be a top 10 NFL RB if he was given an opportunity, he's that good IMO.

 

[backrow]

My thought would be if say, it was late in the first quarter and it was 4th and goal at the 2 yard line, he'd give Evans the ball.

yeah, all the early short yardage carries tend to go to Evans.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

i read a pretty good article on Heath Evans today. it did a good job of pointing out Heath's versatile talents, but it didn't talk about the elephant in the room. some excerpts...

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. - Heath Evans loved watching highlights of Larry Csonka running the football.

The irony is that if Csonka played today, he might be more like Evans than the ball-carrying machine he was in the 1970s for the Miami Dolphins.

"When I came into the league in the '70s and then even into the '80s, the fullback and halfback, the carries were kind of balanced," New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said on Wednesday. "And the halfbacks blocked for the fullbacks and the fullbacks blocked for the halfbacks. That's kind of what Heath is. Heath can block, Heath can carry the ball. He would be a natural fullback for teams of the '60s and '70s."

And now? The Patriots back has so many different roles it's tough to put him into one category.

"Heath is a versatile guy for us," Belichick said...

"I think everything is opportunities," Evans said. "I don't think you grow a new arm or a new leg overnight. Coach Belichick and his staff gave me opportunities, I've been able to perform well at some of them, and not so well at others. They do a good job of getting me ready. I've been thrown at roles I've never had before at this level in the NFL. But thanks to them I've been well prepared.

"I had a few carries out in Seattle (2001-04), and my time in Miami (six games in 2005) was so brief I didn't get to do anything there, really. So since college, I've never been a ball carrier or a receiver out of the backfield. So those things tend to get dusty and these coaches have prepared me for that, to achieve goals that they've set for me.

The other key to the Patriots' running game puzzle is the offensive line. It showed its depth last week when starting guard Stephen Neal had to sit out and the line never missed a beat. Evans said this offensive line is the best he's seen.

"I know they're coached extremely hard by (assistant head coach) Dante (Scarnecchia) on an every-single-day basis," Evans said. "It's fun to watch how he inspires them and is so critical of every detail. You can see a passion for the player as well as the game."

the article also includes some classy humility by Heath, but i think some of that is what hurts our guys. being humble is great when you deal with white folks, but blacks just see it as a sign of weakness. thankfully, Bellichick has given him and Eckel the opportunity.

the full article can be read here