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Discussion in 'Boxing' started by aussieaussie31, Mar 8, 2008.
I can do a round by round update if noone else is doing so
My computer is in the study, and the tv is in the living room so post will be brief.
Doing ring introductions right now.
Close first round. Both land 1 good shot. Mac a left hook to the head, Haye a good overhand right. Close round but I would lean slightly towards Haye 10-9
Haye By 2nd round knockout.
Haye landed ay will in the 2nd. appeared to be quite a bit quicker than Mac. @nd round knockout.
Enzo looked so dam stiff in there. Show good defensive skills in round one but in round 2 he got hit flushwith what looked to be a overhand right. It hurt him bad. Oh well, that sucks but now we have the Oleg fight to watch. Haye looked very good in this fight I have to say if i am gonna be honest.
Haye looks ready to box at 220. Should be some good matches ahead for him.
Haye impressed me. He looked very fast. Question is though will that speed stay with a extra 20-25 pounds. Mabye, mabye not. Have to wait and see in his first fight at heavy.
I saw this one coming when Macarenelli kept leaning in and dropping his left hand after jabbing, the exact thing you don't do against a right hand happy fighter like Haye.
I give Haye credit, but the referee should have called the first knockdown, when Enzo went into the ropes and then stood back up, so he would have had a chance to really recover. And since Enzo was back on his feet and recovered after the second knockdown at the time of stoppage, I thought the ref could have given him another chance. It was a bit of an early stoppage, but ever since Benn vs. McClellan they take no chances in Britain.
But if Haye thinks he can dominate heavyweight, he's dreaming - there's a lot of strong men from Eastern Europe that have much better amateur backgrounds than Maccarinelli. I would like to see how he does against Chagaev, Povetkin, and of course, Wladimir.
Anyone watching the fights online? I'm looking at Sopcast but haven't found it yet.
I agree JD. I kind of saw it coming as well. Was it me or did Maccarenelli look very stiff as well. I just wish he would have atleast went further. Haye should be a good heavyweight. I think he will defeat guys like Brock, Cambers, Mabye even Ibragimov. However because of his style I see men that are bigger than him beating him like Wladimir Klitschko, Vladimir Virchis, Dimitrenko, and a few other of the big Eatern Europeans. Haye (because of his style)would have a hard time dealing with them.
I could do a round by round of Oleg if someone can't see it. I just hope I am not a Jinx against our guys.
Watching Diaz struggle with Nate Campbell on the Oleg undercard adds to my belief that Michael Katsidis can, and will beat Diaz.
I might need a round by round, because I can't find it yet. I'm still looking though.
no worries, just let me know before the fight.
Looks like Diaz lost.
I found it on TVU player. Channel 66563.
Diaz looked real bad in that fight. Makes you wonder.
Maccarinelli did seem a bit stiff. Regardless of what the ref failed to do, he would have lost the fight anyway.
I think Haye would defeat most heavyweights but not Sultan, Chagaev, Virchis, Povetkin and certainly not Wlad.
I was amused by the build up. All the talk about this being an all time great British fight was certainly overreaching. All they talked about was how they both have great power and fragile chins. Uh, how do you have a "war" with two fragile chins?! Both fighters have to be able to absorb a lot of punishment in order to have a "war." Duh.
Macca was too aggressive after he took some stiff punches. He should have been more conservative for the first three or four rounds. I assume that was the gameplan. Survive early and win late. I believe it was right before the second big right hand that Haye landed in the second round, that Macca took a huge step or two forward and BAM! Big right hand. Moments later he stepped straight back with his hands at his waist when Haye landed the shot that knocked him into the ropes. So Macca was too aggressive, and he had defensive lapses. Combine that with Haye's power and hand speed and it's no wonder why he got KO'd.
Having said all that, now that Haye is moving to the HW division, the Cruiserweight division is wide open! There's Cunningham, the winner of Adamek/ Bell, Mormeck, Jirov, throw in some young guys like Kraj and perhaps an improved Huck... clearly the division is there for the taking. And this doesn't have to be the end of Maccarinelli. Boxing fans are too quick to dismiss fighters after they lose. One loss is somehow the end of a fighter's career. Yes, it was a terrible loss, but this is just the beginning for Enzo Maccarinelli. He's only 27! This is his first loss in eight years! It's only the second big fight in his career (if you consider the Brathwaite fight a big fight, I do,) and he got knocked out by a guy who could've knocked out anyone in the division. And not only that, but Haye is immediately leaving the division. So he's not as good as Haye. Oh well. After Saturday, he doesn't have to be. This fight doesn't determine how good Maccarinelli will be. How he improves, and how he fights in the future, will determine how good he will be. He could still be a great Cruiserweight champion. Or not. We'll see.
Hey, at least Kraj won! That's great. I haven't seen him fight, so I have to reserve judgment. All I know is that he's an Olympic Silver medalist who just beat the number one challenger to the WBC belt (yeah, I had to look it up!) and now Kraj is the mandatory challenger. With Haye moving up, I see no reason why Kraj won't be fighting for that belt in his next fight. So he could be a champion very soon. Who knows, maybe Macca-Haye will turn out to be the less important Cruiserweight fight that took place on March 8, 2008....
I agree. The ropes kept him up, and the ref should have stepped in right there and given him a 10-count. Haye missed with several punches after that, but then he landed another huge right hand that sent Macca to the canvas. I'm not complaining, Haye beat him fair and square, but the ref could have saved Macca from that last devastating shot. That was the punch that seemed to do most of the damage. Haye probably would've knocked him out anyway, but there was only a minute left in the round, and he possibly could've clinched and survived the round, and regrouped in the next round. Or not.Edited by: JD074