French team race quota scandal

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  1. Matra1

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    I guess the French football federation realizes it has a problem.

    France has been plunged into a fresh race crisis after claims that football officials tried to limit black and Arab players on youth training schemes to make the French team more white.

    The French football federation has opened an internal investigation after website Mediapart reported that top management approved a quota system to limit young black players and those of north African origin emerging as candidates for the national team. The alleged plan involved limiting non-white youngsters as young as 12 or 13 from entering the selection process through training centres and academies.


    French football race row
     
  2. Liverlips

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    If they would just pick the best players they would have a decent team that doesn't get knocked out early in the World Cup and European Cup.

    But they want an all-black national team as those in charge believe blacks are better athletes.

    Meanwhile all-white teams from Italy and Spain are bringing home the trophies.
     
  3. Rebajlo

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    People see the problem, but what shall actually be done? Do thefigures in the relevant positions of power at all levels of the sport possess the guts (and certain other vital parts of the male anatomy) to implement changes in the face of thepredictable media onslaughts and high-pitched whines of indignation from the usual spectrum of suspects? Shall the White fans continue to support "their" national team and club sides, thus providing the money which fuels the entire sysytem of black and Arab saturation?


    Theback-pedalling and denials havebegun...

    Blanc denies existence of racial quota



    France coach Laurent Blanc has firmly rejected claims the French Football Federation (FFF) has introduced a secret quota to reduce the number of black and Arab players.



    Mediapart claimed on its website that a secret meeting took place to introduce limits on the number of non-white players to be enrolled in the country's training academies.


    The report read: "Some top officials at the French Football Federation's National Development Programme (DTN), including national team coach Laurent Blanc, secretly approved at the start of 2011 the principle of unofficial discriminatory quotas in training centres and schools around the country.



    "For the top brass in French football, the issue is settled: there are too many blacks, too many Arabs and not enough white players in French football.


    "According to internal sources at the FFF, who have been shocked by the proposals, instructions were sent to the different managers of training schools, notably the National French Institute at Clairefontaine.


    "The figure of 30% was even evoked by the Technical Director during a DTN meeting on January 18, 2011."


    However, Blanc insists he has no knowledge of any such project and that the only discrimination he is aware of relates to physical attributes such as size.


    "It really bothers me because it's against my values," he said. "To me, this is totally false - there is no draft quota - and it's a lie to say that the coach of the France team participated, so I cannot tell you about something that does not exist.


    "I have never heard mention of such a project. Since around 15 years the playing policy has been discriminatory for a certain number of players, [with] athletic and physical criteria being essential.


    "Today, small players are penalised. That's discrimination. What upsets me the most is to add 'colour' to this. When one accuses me of this type of discrimination, that annoys me. Diversity exists, on the street as in football."



    FFF president Fernand Duchaussoy added: "I heard about this on Thursday with a great deal of surprise. I was taken aback. I thought it was a joke in bad taste. These are terrible accusations."


    Technical director Francois Blaquart said the only related issue the FFF had considered concerned those players who receive their football education in France before going on to represent other countries.


    "Our only problem is to do with dual nationality," he said. "This involves players of all origins - it's got nothing to do with skin colour."


    The country's sports minister, Chantal Jouanno, said she would liaise with the FFF president to ensure the necessary action is taken.


    "Discrimination had no place in sport," she said. "I know that Fernand Duchaussoy will take all necessary measures without delay. I will obviously be in contact with him to closely monitor the response to this matter."
    Source: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/913295/france-coach-laurent-blanc-strongly-rejects-racial-quota-claims?cc=3436

    Please pardon my cynicism, but I cannot imagine that too much shall change. The "powers that be" are multifaceted and omnipresent.Simply look at the "sanctions" UEFA has just imposed upon Rangers and - more importantly - who was ultimately behind their implementation:


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    Uefa has fined Rangers 40,000 euros (£35,652) and banned its fans from the next away European game for sectarian singing in a match at PSV Eindhoven.


    At a hearing in Nyon, Switzerland, Uefa also gave Rangers a suspended ban on its fans for a second away game for a probationary period of three years.


    Uefa also issued a suspended punishment for fans' behaviour at the Ibrox leg.


    It will fine Rangers a further 40,000 euros and close Ibrox for one match if fans misbehave in the next three years.


    Should the Scottish Premier League leaders choose to appeal against the decision, the club must do so within three days of receiving Uefa's written decision.


    In a statement on the Rangers website, chief executive Martin Bain said: "We are bitterly disappointed that our club has been placed in a position where we are subjected to these kind of sanctions by Uefa.


    "We will consider our position when we receive the written reasons for the decision which are expected in a week or so.


    "The club put its own case very forcibly to Uefa and the more draconian sanctions that were recommended by the disciplinary inspector have been mitigated to a degree.


    "To be clear, we condemn sectarianism and there is no doubt the mindless behaviour of an element of our support has exposed the club to a very serious situation. The people who engage in this type of behaviour are damaging the club they claim to support.



    "It is abundantly clear from this decision that if there is any sectarian singing at future matches the suspended bans will take effect. Those fans who engage in such activity need to take that message on board."



    When news broke of Uefa's intention to hear allegations of sectarian singing by the club's fans at the Europa League match against the Dutch side on 17 March, Bain said the club was "absolutely astounded" and that it planned to defend the club's position "very, very vigorously".


    While acknowledging that sectarian singing is a problem among a section of its support, Bain had argued that the club had taken significant steps to wipe out such behaviour.


    He also said Rangers were unhappy that a report from FARE (Football Against Racism in Europe) should result in them facing charges, while the Uefa match delegates gave favourable reports on its fans' behaviour in the games against PSV.


    However, Piara Powar, executive director of the FARE network, earlier this month defended his organisation and denied there was any undue focus on Rangers.


    "The FARE network is focused only on our core mission of tackling discrimination in football and encouraging social inclusion through the game," he said.


    "We have no axe to grind with any club."


    Bain added in Thursday's response to Uefa's sanctions: "In terms of the Uefa case brought against us, we have had serious concerns about the integrity of the evidence compiled by the FARE organisation and that remains the case.


    "We are also of the opinion that FARE has been influenced by people who make it their business to damage our club in any way they can.



    "We are committed to the eradication of sectarianism and believe it would have been more constructive for FARE to work with our club rather than against it.



    "Instead, they submitted evidence to Uefa with a clear objective in mind and have shown a complete lack of transparency or accountability when asked for clarification on various aspects of that evidence."


    Earlier on Thursday, Rangers assistant manager Ally McCoist accepted that if a ban on fans attending matches at Ibrox helped to eradicate sectarianism, it would be worth the club taking the financial hit.


    He said ahead of Uefa's decision: "No matter what it costs, if the problem can get eradicated, then anything is a good thing."


    McCoist, though, believes the guilty fans should be punished instead of the club.


    "It would be a real blow," added McCoist. "The atmosphere at our place in the Champions League in recent seasons has been out of this world.


    "I'd feel really sorry for the good fans and the players as well."


    The decision by Uefa's Control and Disciplinary Body to punish Rangers will have been based in part on the club's fans' behavioural record over the past five years.


    The Glasgow club was fined £13,300 for supporters' discriminatory chanting and £9,000 for attacking their opponents' team bus during an away game against Villarreal in 2006.


    And Uefa issued a fine of £8,280 for some Rangers fans' behaviour during a match against Osasuna in May 2007.


    The following year, at the Uefa Cup final in Manchester, fans were involved in city centre riots, and a fine of £18,000 was imposed by Uefa for fan violence when the club played Unirea Urziceni in Romania in November 2009.
    Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13218273.stm

    Here is the photograph of the Rangers - PSV match which accompanies the above story:

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    Three blacks and a White with his back to the camera. A game which features Scottish and Dutch clubs, yet not a Scot or Dutchman in sight (the white Rangers player is Bosnian defender Sasa Papac) - just the way UEFA like it.

    Here is Piara Powar, the executive director of FARE (Football Against Racism In Europe), who isquoted in the article:

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    A piece ofcurry-reeking filth like this is telling Europeans whatis "acceptable" in European football. "Encouraging social inclusion through the game" - that says it all.

    If You wish to waste a few moments of Your time, have a look at this poofter's organisation's website. These are the innumerable, ever-influential pressure groups we are up against:

    http://www.farenet.org/

    Time to log out, as my rage has built up to explosion point... [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
  4. Borussia

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    This encapsulates the true reality of the anti-White racism system that exists and is backed up by FORCE.
    They have official (tax exempt?) organization with a staff, hierarchy structure, specialized departments and the approval of the media industry and weak, liberal, anti-White National Government of Europe- EU.

    I suspect that the multi-cultural and anti-European EU is the brains and brawn behind this hateful organization.

    It is mind boggling, this FARE Network.
    I would say people start their own internal investigations into what precisely is behind this racist organization. Are their public records request laws in EU?

    Truly, this is astonishing. I mean the level of audacity this FARE Network.
    Yes, you should be mad.
    The sheer thought that national teams and national football associations actually try to support their own ethnic players??? OMG, the horror!

    (EU - "We better start and support a organization to keep the agenda going. After all, too many regular peasant fans are joking about Senegal North/france team.")

    The bottom line is that only official pro-European organizations can combat such hatred. Part of the separatist movement should include National Team player policies.
    I think many people would support this.

    The masses know what's going on, trust me. Yet any sheer discussion is quickly smashed through media, financial, social, political and if need be, physical intimidation and force.

    This is why our macro condition can only be solved through official organizations with a systematic structure, legal department, media wing, etc.
    It would take true work, manpower, significant money, and lots of obstacles.
     
  5. Rebajlo

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    Well, they certainly don't waste any time:

    Race row escalates, chief suspended



    Technical director Francois Blaquart has been suspended from his post at the French Football Federation following allegations the footballing body is seeking to introduce quotas limiting the presence of ethnic minority players in the national team.



    French website Mediapart have alleged that plans were made at an FFF meeting last November to limit the numbers of black players and those of north African origin entering national training centres and academies at the age of 12.


    France coach Laurent Blanc, coach of the France Espoirs under-21 team Erick Mombaerts and Blaquart were all said to have attended the meeting.



    Blanc has strongly denied the claims but Blaquart has now been removed from his post with an investigation under way into the reports.


    A joint statement from French sports minister Chantal Jouanno and FFF president Fernand Duchaussoy confirmed the news of Blaquart's suspension with immediate effect, before further denying the allegations made.


    "(The suspension is) pending the outcome of investigations by the FFF and the IGJS (Inspectorate General of Youth and Sports), who will relay their findings in eight days," the statement read.


    "The FFF reaffirms that none of its elected bodies has validated or even contemplated a policy of quotas for the recruitment of its training centres."
    Source: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/913569/race-row-escalates-as-french-chief-suspended?cc=3436

    Borussia - The European Union is one of the greatest evils to befall the White race. Your assertion that the EU is behind FARE and other organisations of this ilk is 100% accurate.

    The following quote is taken from the "About FARE" section of their website:

    "Football is the biggest sport in the world and belongs to us all. It should be the right of every person to play, watch and discuss freely, without fear."

    Unless, of course, one happens to be White for then one cannot discuss the sport "freely, without fear", as one shall be decried as a "racist", barred from attending and quite possibly be banged up on the charge of "hate speech".

    FARE's "Field of Work - Exclusion of Minorities" section states:

    "Across Europe, ethnic minorities are under-represented in stadiums, football administration and sometimes in professional football leagues. An example for open discrimination by football governing bodies is the limitation of the number of migrants in amateur football, common in Italy or Spain. In Austrian amateur football, the number of foreigners, including even citizens of the European Union, is limited to three per team."

    "...and sometimes in professional football leagues". So, every league must resemble France and England where, by logical deduction, I assume that these pricks deem that "ethnic minorities" aren't under-represented?But if I say that as blacks do not constituteone thirdof theEnglishpopulation yet provide 33-35 % of Premier League starters I am a "racist". But these FARE bastards would probably blithely reply that sure, there are blacks, but where are the Pakis?

    Finally, FARE has its patronisingly titled "Eastern European Development Project" to ensure that those naughty, benighted eastern Europeans are cured of their ignorance and can consequently share in the multicultural utopia of theirsocially advanced, inclusive western European brethren.

    I perused the brainwashing activities for Polandand beheld, amongst other evil little schemes usually conveniently held in schools,the following choice event:




    TUOI TRE (Vietnamese Football Club)
    Warszawa
    15-24 Oct. â€" Production of the banner with the "Let's Kick Racism Out Of Stadiums"Â￾ message, roll-up in the entrance of the sports centre, and scarves with antiracist logo. Indoor football one day league and with series of cultural events made by football players: Vietnamese, Nigerians and Chechens.

    A Vietnamese football club in Warsaw, eh? Isn't that nice. That's inclusion for You. We cannot have Polish football clubs though. Oh no, Polish clubs cannot be Polish, as that's racist - for as we all know, Polish clubs are for everybody...

    Vietnamese, Nigerians and Chechens - three varieties of excrement.The blood literally boils... [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    And all of this is gleefully funded by Your friendly European Union (i.e. the White taxpayer)...Edited by: Rebajlo
     
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    " An example for open discrimination by football governing bodies is the limitation of the number of migrants in amateur football, common in Italy or Spain. In Austrian amateur football, the number of foreigners, including even citizens of the European Union, is limited to three per team."

    So countries can't even look out for their own people by not allowing immigrants. Yep, the West is dead.
     
  7. Lisa D

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    In France, currently, we are speaking a lot about this 'scandal'. But thanks to that, we have the opportunity to bring up lots of problems, like the anti-white discrimination which has favored the current situation.


    Well, just an image for you:here isthe "Equipe de France Espoir" (French National Hope Team, it means the young national team, before senior level).
    [​IMG]
     
  8. Freethinker

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    Hope is the last word I would use to describe that squad. It looks more like what I would expect to see from South Africa than I would from France.
     
  9. Jack Lambert

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    I agree with Freethinker, that's anything but hope. It does look like a copy of South Africa's squad from last year, with the token white player on it. I can feel your pain, Lisa. I wouldn't be cheering for that team representing my country.
     
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    LOL even the Goalkeeper is black. [​IMG]

    The french,dutch,belgian and english Nationalteam are a joke.

    You can add Germany,Portugal,Sweden,Austria and Switzerland to that list in 7-10 years. [​IMG] Edited by: itsme
     
  11. Vanilla_Sky

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    I'm not sure about it's soccer squad, but South Africa had a mainly white Rugby team during a world tournament in Vegas this year.
     
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    The fact is that immigrants will look to sport as a route to succeed
    and similarly blacks do , so need no encouragement
    and fact that generally blacks all they want to do is some form of sport
    or entertainment/music and forego the intellectual route and live in this stupid society that pushes there invovlement and generally live in urban setting where selected from
    leads to situation in many youth acamdemys in france, england and so on where blacks far outnumber whites .



    SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH A QUOTA TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING
    these various factors lead to high per centage ,
    then why not counter balance that with factors that control it
    and have a healthy per centage that reflects society
    and know that these high per centages do not lead to higher standards
    so they are not nessary .



    if the general white population mainly wanted to do sport ,etc then society would not function ,but many will take the intellectual route or many other routes that society relient upon ,
    as do majority of chinese and indian people .
    the black population are therefore in general by far the most parasitic of races as they contribute the least and take the most .
    you can see this by theyre very personality off and on pitch ,
    in many of english premiership teams ,you will see that alot of
    them will tend to be forwards , as that reflects their egos and glory hunting ways .in it for their personal advancement ,not that of the team
    one of reasons i prefer not to have them on same team as me cause i know in general the way they are .
    football is after all a team sport .
     
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    [​IMG]That is what the South Africa team looked like at the World Cup. Rugby and Soccer have very different racial dynamics in SA.
     
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    None of the 'French' players appear to be North African/Berber. Zidane was North African/Berber. Aren't team officials looking for the next Zidane? Do the blacks push the Arabs out of soccer?
     
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    Lisa D - A truly shocking photograph of a "French" team. I am furious when I see even one or two blacks in European sides, but "French" football has been well beyond the pale (so to speak) for a very long time. It's a wonder that Your people retain any interest in football at all. Looking at such an African selection, I almost feel guilty about complaining of the half-Samoan Tim Cahill's presencein the Australian national side... [​IMG]

    Charlie - The FFFdefinitely promotesArabs and there is no shortage ofcamel fanciers in French football. Blacks are more numerous and better established, but the number of Arab playersis increasing in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Scandinavia. As the Arab populations grow prodigiously, so shall their involvement in football.

    Freethinker - Since the collapse of apartheid South African rugby has been subjected to constant pressure to "diversify" it's playing personnel. The current Springboks coach, Peter de Villiers,was appointed in 2008 and is (surprise, surprise) black. Black players are pushed into teams at all levels and are increasingly featuring in provincial sides and inSpringbok selections. Most of the blacks are only there because of their skin colour and this shall have the inevitable negativeeffect on South African rugby.

    Back to the issue at hand:

    FFF opens inquiry into race quotas



    The French Football Federation (FFF) has opened its inquiry into claims that senior members of the French staff were seeking to introduce quotas limiting the presence of ethnic minority players in the national set-up.



    French website Mediapart alleged last week that plans were made at a meeting last November - with boss Laurent Blanc present along with FFF technical director Francois Blaquart, Under-21 coach Erick Mombaerts and Under-20 coach Francis Smerecki - to restrict the numbers of black players and those of north African origin entering national training centres and academies at the age of 12.


    Blaquart was suspended from his post on Saturday, pending the outcome of investigations by the FFF.



    An FFF statement on Tuesday read: ''The French Football Federation, in accordance with the commitment they made in response to disclosures by a website, have today set up a Commission of Inquiry to hear charged mainly with the task of hearing those who have been named in order to determine whether the elements revealed last Saturday are true.


    ''This commission will be composed of Patrick Braouezec, director of the Football Foundation, and Laurent Davenas, president of the National Council of Ethics.


    ''Alain Resplandy-Bernard, managing director of the FFF, will be responsible for ensuring correct conditions for the setting up of this commission which will work in co-ordination with the mission of general inspection of the Ministry of Youth and Sports.


    ''They will hear in turn, those involved in the DTN [Direction Technique Nationale] meeting which was held at the FFF, on November 8, 2010. It will issue its findings within one week, at the latest.


    ''These will be developed and studied by a extraordinary Federal Council [meeting] which will be held next week. So that this investigation takes place under optimum conditions of calm, the FFF will not express anything more about this matter until the findings of the commission are made public.''


    Blanc strongly denied the allegation on Friday, telling L'Equipe: ''This project does not exist. All that, for me, is false.


    ''It is impossible to put quotas in place in football. If that was put in place, advocating one race above another, I would fall off my chair.''
    Source: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/914850/french-federation-opens-inquiry-into-quotas?cc=3436

    Now, have a look at this:


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    PARIS â€" The man who taped the meeting at the centre of the French football race row said on Wednesday that he was not responsible for leaking the recording to the media.


    Mohammed Belkacemi, France's national technical advisor for neighbourhood football, said he sent the only copy of the recording to the French Football Federation (FFF) the day after it was made.


    "I explained everything to the inquiry," said Belkacemi.


    "I recorded the meeting on November 8, 2010 to testify internally about unacceptable things that I had already heard before.


    "I sent the only copy of the recording to the federation on November 9, 2010 to confirm my words."


    The Mediapart website claimed last week that high-ranking French officials, including France coach Laurent Blanc, discussed introducing a quota to restrict the number of dual-nationality players coming through their national training programmes to 30 percent.


    National technical director (DTN) Francois Blaquart, who is responsible for youth coaching policy in France, was suspended on Saturday but said that the plan had been "abandoned".


    Belkacemi has been cast as "the mole" in the French media after details of his involvement in the affair emerged but he rejected the description.


    "Since that date (November 9, 2010), the recording was no longer in my hands but in the possession of the federation, which has been confirmed in the hearings," he said.


    "I therefore never gave the recording to a journalist. This media storm does not benefit me. I have no interest in this publicity. I have no interest in a public debate."


    Belkacemi's revelation raises the possibility that the FFF knew about the existence of the recording well before it was made public by Mediapart, but FFF president Fernand Duchaussoy said that was not the case.


    "Until Thursday evening, I had not at any moment been informed by anyone about the discussions that took place during the meeting on November 8, 2010 -- much less about the existence of a recording," Duchaussoy said in a statement sent to AFP.


    Sports minister Chantal Jouanno subsequently spoke out in support of Duchaussoy.


    "Did the FFF know? Not the FFF in the sense of all its directors, but some of its directors," she said.


    "I have no reason to doubt the sincerity of the president of the FFF or the vice-president (Noel Le Graet)."



    Earlier on Wednesday, Mediapart and the website of the Le Parisien newspaper speculated that Belkacemi had sent the recording to Andre Prevosto, who was then the joint-director general at the FFF.


    Prevosto could not be contacted by AFP, while the FFF said they would not comment on the case until the outcome of their own internal investigation and one being conducted by France's sport ministry.


    Both inquiries are expected to report their findings later this week.


    Blanc, currently on holiday in Italy, will be among the officials questioned as part of the inquiries.


    Blanc's former France team-mate Christophe Dugarry, now a television pundit, said he was worried the affair could see Blanc lose his position.


    "I think that we're putting him in an enormously difficult position by thinking that we could sack him, because -- watch out -- he could quit," said Dugarry, who won the World Cup alongside Blanc in 1998.


    "I think we have to remember what French football was like over these last four years (under Blanc's predecessor, Raymond Domemech)."


    A number of players have come through French youth training centres in recent years, and represented France at youth level, only to switch allegiances to the senior sides of different countries.


    They include Marouane Chamakh (Morocco), Sebastien Bassong (Cameroon), Moussa Sow (Senegal), Younes Belhanda (Morocco) and Ryad Boudebouz (Algeria).
    Source: http://www.timeslive.co.za/sport/soccer/article1051096.ece/French-race-row-official-rejects-mole-claim

    Mohammed Belkacemi - yet another 100% Frenchman stirring the pot in France...
     

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