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I have the game on now and it is a miracle to see France with 7-8 whites and only 2 blacks on the pitch. Even the U.S. looks to have 7 whites and 4 blacks.

Massive crowd as well. Maybe the French can cheer for their national team again?
 

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The France v USA match isn't on where I live. I am however enjoying Croatia taking it to the useless Turks.
 

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Gonalons on for M'Vila. Now only one black on the pitch for a team that actually represents France.
 

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Though a negro scored for France, I must say I am happy. The lineup for the US is littered now with talentless blacks. I hope they give up a few goals to some real Frenchmen.
 

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Yes - great result for a true French team. Mostly played 7-8 whites. Hope they are turning a corner after a very dark recent history.

As for the U.S., our experiment in black supremacy is 1-4-1 under Klinsmann the Clown.
 

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When France beats the U.S. and Klinsmann goes to 1-6-1, he and the rest of the sports media in the U.S. will know what to do. "Too many whites! Too few blacks!" they will yodel in unison.
Good call on the first part. Let's hope the 2nd of your predictions does NOT come true.
 

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We'll see, but like the French, the U.S. will have to lose a lot of games before we drop the black supremacy.

Good news is we only have to wait until Tuesday for them to lose against all-white Slovenia.
 

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The France v USA match isn't on where I live. I am however enjoying Croatia taking it to the useless Turks.
That was an impressive performance by Croatia.
Croatia never recovered from their loss to Turkey in the last seconds during the Euro 2008 in Vienna. They put on one s****y game after another. Now they got their revenge. Is this a start of a new cycle?

Sorry for the Off Topic, but I couldn't resist...
 

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wow
the french team was dynamic, skilled, long time i didn't see that

alou diarra was clearly the weak point of the team
and benzema was playing like it was a training session (mourinho probably asked to avoid injury)

debuchy was elected man of the match, he is now clearly the number 1 right back, we will finally never see this useless sagna again

great match from mathieu also, very solid, and he took the free kicks, wich was a real surprise for me
one of them was perfectly taken, if giroud would have played at this moment....it was a goal

kocielny was good, a little bit anxious sometimes, but mexes is suposed to be the number 1 in central defence anyway

enormous impact from giroud
he only played the last 20 minutes, but he took every single aerial ball
the french goal comes from one of these aerial balls won by giroud
on every goal kick by lloris you could hear gasset, one of the coaches, yelling "put the ball on giroud!"
he was really wonderfull on those long balls

unfortunately, giroud missed a really easy goal.....bad luck
he was in front of the goal, tried to shoot powerfully, but the ball passed 1 cm near the post




the american team was not that bad, their attack was poor, very poor, but defensively they did a great match (this is what you get with 2 white central defenders)
 

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That was an impressive performance by Croatia.
Croatia never recovered from their loss to Turkey in the last seconds during the Euro 2008 in Vienna. They put on one s****y game after another. Now they got their revenge. Is this a start of a new cycle?

Sorry for the Off Topic, but I couldn't resist...

i heard before this match that the turkish team was very weak compared to 2008 ( i heard this from belgians, who played against them in qualifications)
but it's always impressive to beat turkey, and in turkey!
and 3-0!
very good result for white soccer
 
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wow
the french team was dynamic, skilled, long time i didn't see that

debuchy was elected man of the match, he is now clearly the number 1 right back, we will finally never see this useless sagna again

great match from mathieu also, very solid, and he took the free kicks, wich was a real surprise for me
one of them was perfectly taken, if giroud would have played at this moment....it was a goal

kocielny was good, a little bit anxious sometimes, but mexes is suposed to be the number 1 in central defence anyway

enormous impact from giroud
he only played the last 20 minutes, but he took every single aerial ball
the french goal comes from one of these aerial balls won by giroud
on every goal kick by lloris you could hear gasset, one of the coaches, yelling "put the ball on giroud!"
he was really wonderfull on those long balls

Well put, there was a very nice flow to the game and the French supporters seemed very enthusiastic. Deserved win for France and it was great that Giroud managed to contribute to the scoring of the opening goal. He was flawless in his maiden appearance for France (in terms of distributing the ball and alarming the US defenders). Giroud really showed how proud he was to represent the French side. A fine debut for Gonalons, btw.
I agree with you that the USA were to an extent successful in containing France, but their offensive play still leaves a lot to be desired. However, the French defenders are to be praised for that, as they were very composed and self-assured.

That was an impressive performance by Croatia.
Croatia never recovered from their loss to Turkey in the last seconds during the Euro 2008 in Vienna. They put on one s****y game after another. Now they got their revenge. Is this a start of a new cycle?

I think so. The Croats' confidence seemed to have taken a hit after their home loss against England (by a score of 1:4) in the 2010 World Cup qualifiers and they were not very convincing in their matches vs. Greece, but this time they were in the mood and everything seemed to work for them.

Turkey are in a very bad shape (and there are rumours that some of the Fenerbahçe players like Volkan Demirel only made half-hearted effort, as their club team was recently banned from participating in the Champions League group stage by the Turkish federation at the request of UEFA), but this should not in any way take the shine off their fabulous performance.

Croatia could certainly be considered a dark horse for the Euro 2012 finals and will be a difficult opponent for any team (today Germany drew 3:3 with Ukraine, the Netherlands failed to beat Switzerland....European football continues to be very unpredictable).
 

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Croatia could certainly be considered a dark horse for the Euro 2012 finals and will be a difficult opponent for any team (today Germany drew 3:3 with Ukraine, the Netherlands failed to beat Switzerland....European football continues to be very unpredictable).


wow.....
http://rutube.ru/tracks/5001078.html?v=58fb7698176a209783fc75eb64c6b6ad&&bmstart=1000

the team i will be rooting for will be ukraine in 2012...they have a great team
i hope shevshenko will still be there, he is one of my favorite players, it's him in the background of my youtube channel

[video=youtube;OvYHnHHB128]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvYHnHHB128&feature=plcp&context=C3a7e391U DOEgsToPDskLdpyC5TpjDZ4YwJ0ftqnmU[/video]
 
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in ligue 1 16 matches have been played
i decided to do a racial breakdown of all the strikers in ligue 1

there are 121 strikers in ligue 1 (or listed as trikers)

-73 are black = 60 %
-17 are arabs
-26 are whites = 20%
-5 are other (2 israelis, 2 asians, and a brazilian mestizo)


out of the 26 whites strikers:
-11 never play (0 to 2 matches as titular)
-2 are offensive middlefielders listed as strikers, so don't score a lot


yet gameiro and giroud are the two top scorers of ligue 1, both white
it could be better, as lisandro lopez of lyon, the only world class striker of ligue 1 (argentinean international) has been injuried for the most part of the season, but scored 4 goals in 6 matches (16 matches have been played as of now)



(i counted the gipsy andre pierre gignac of marseille as white)
 

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maazou won the "ballon de plomb" a parodic award, similar to the golden ball, but for the worst player of the season
http://www.20minutes.fr/article/855516/maazou-laureat-ballon-plomb-2011

article_mazzouok.jpg


a quick translation of the article, about his recent years:

"the nigerien player, 23 years old (add by me:lol, he is at least 2 years older) , who plays in SV Zulte Waregem in belgium, probably won this award because of what he said in january in an interview
what he said was so agressive that the club where he was on loan, les girondins de bordeaux , excluded him from the club
the suporters criticized maazou because he was bad, and maazou answered : "i don't give a f***, they can say what they want, i don't care if they are disappointed"
then he came back to as monaco where he only played 21 minutes because of an injury

in 2011-2012, he was on loan to SV Zulte Waregem in belgium, where he has been so bad that the owners of the club wanted recently to send him back before the end of his contract
the club also asks for a compensation because "the performances of maazou are well short of expectations" "
 

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some news about french soccer, it might be important for the french national team

-first, marseille, after a dreadful start in ligue 1, is winning again, they are 6th now
the team is very black, but the best players are white
for example benoit cheyrou, but i don't think he will be called in the national team
valbuena, on the other hand, said publicly that he wanted to be part of the french national team for the euro 2012
he is french, of spanish descent

valbuena scored 5 goals in the last 4 games of marseille
he scored the beautiful goal that allowed his team to qualify for the next stage of champions league, against dortmund
[video=youtube;KzpHvD2nUNY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzpHvD2nUNY[/video]

the goal looks like his goal years ago against liverpool in champions league too
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgp332_but-valbuena-liverpool-0-1-marseille_sport

he scored 2 of the 3 goals of his team in this french cup match:
[video=youtube;PlOqvsM0F04]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlOqvsM0F04[/video]

the other white player of marseille who gives good passes is amalfitano
morgan-amalfitano-02-12-2011-caen---marseille--16eme-journee-de-ligue-1-20111203093634-3692.jpg

amalfitano is probably of south italian descent, although you can be french and have an italian name in the city he was born in, nice, nissa in the local language, a region part of france only since 1861

amalfitano officially said also that he wanted to be part of the french national team for 2012, but i doubt he will make it


-mathieu bodmer
article_BODMER.jpg


he is french, but converted to islam
it seems he will play more under the new coach, ancelotti

as you know, PSG has been bought by an arab billionaire
what happens in this kind of situation, is that the club buys a lot of foreign players, a lot of brazilians for PSG, and a few local players play to still look "french"
it seems that bodmer could be one of these local players who play as a titular
 
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nolan roux finally moves to a big club
he will play for lille, who plays champions league and are in the mix to win the french title

[video=youtube;4Xq87XQOGrk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xq87XQOGrk[/video]

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a very talented player
he should have played for shalke 04 this season, but the transfert failed for obscure reasons

another white player who will most likely play for the french national team
it's too late for him to be in the team for the euro 2012 though
 

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What happened to Gignac? He had one great season when he scored 20+ goals for his old club, but he seems to have disappeared since then.
 

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What happened to Gignac? He had one great season when he scored 20+ goals for his old club, but he seems to have disappeared since then.

since that season (08/09 when he was the ligue 1 top scorer), he has been battling with injuries
he was not fit enough,to the point that his coach sent him to merano to learn to eat less and become healthy again
he was frustrated by his bad shape, and insulted his coach during a training session
so now he almost never plays


the anti-white suporters say that giroud will be the next gignac, because they hate giroud and they can't criticize him currently (because he doesn't stop scoring)
so they say giroud will fail next year, like gignac did after being ligue 1 top scorer
it makes no sense
 

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some news from lyon, one of the biggest french club:


lyon bought a defender from united arab emirates, 21 years old
it's revolting, because they have sebastien faure, who played in the french u20 national team, a very good and promising defender
but he will most likely never get a chance to play, because of this

regarding this transfert,bernard lacombe, a legendary former player for lyon (who currently helps to manage the club), said the arab player wasn't good enough for a high profile club like lyon

but the owner of the club, jean michel aulas, want to buy him for a very obvious reasons: they want to be known in the arab world, because these arab countries have a lot of money

he said:
On a pris d'autres orientations, on peut envisager avec des pays émergents comme les Emirats pour les équipes masculines des accords sur la formation, faire venir des jeunes dans le centre et, au gré de leur expérience, démontrer leur qualité et intégrer les équipes professionnelles.

translation: he wants to have a partnership with emerging soccer countries like united arab emirates
young players from UAE will come to lyon's training academy, andeventually turn professional and play for lyon

there is no mention of young players from lyon going to UAE to turn pro there :icon_rolleyes:

i hate these "partnerships" :dizzy:
 

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some news about gourcuff, arguably the most talented french player these days

since the new year (2012) he only played 45 minutes for lyon (30 in ligue 1 and 15 in french cup)
it's very important for him to play more, if he wants to be in the french national team for the euro 2012
he said that he wasn't happy to no longer be a starter, and i don't understand why the coach decided to play without him
a few days ago there was a match in french cup against bordeaux, where he was expected to make his come-back
he played well, ad did this beaytiful pass:
[video=youtube;it3vRT0rNwY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it3vRT0rNwY[/video]
lyon won the match 3-1

now let's see if he will play today in ligue 1

a video about his most beautiful goals, and goals with the french national team:

[video=youtube;6q3ZHBLKbds]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3ZHBLKbds&feature=related[/video]

the video shows similarities between zidane and gourcuff
we have to remember that he was france's top scorer during the qualifications for the euro 2012, depite being a midlefielder
there is no way the arab samir nasri is picked before gourcuff, he does nothing for manchester city
 

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tonight at 21h european time there will be the most important match of the season in france, montpellier vs paris saint germain
the first of the league (paris saint germain) against the second of the league (montpellier)
the ligue 1 top scorer (giroud) against the second top scorer (nene the brazilian) and the third top scorer (gameiro)

some strange things happened in the build up to this match:
a fight between 2 montpellier players during a training session
and montpelliers's president, nicollin, obtained a big contract in qatar for his company (a company that has nothing to do with soccer)
i hope it won't mean that montpellier will lose the match on purpose against paris saint germain, a team owned by a qatari

regardless, i think that paris saint germain is far superior to montpellier, but everything can happen since montpellier has giroud
 

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Frederic,

Thanks for the update. What are the racial compositions of both teams?
 

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sure
the match just started

paris saint germain: 6 whites - 3 blacks - 2 brazilian mestizos

montpellier: 2 whites - 5 blacks - 2 arabs - 1 brazilian mestizo and 1 chilean that could pass for a white

paris should win, but i hope giroud scores
montpellier is a one-man team, giroud is their best player and he is white

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the final result is 2-2
it was a strange match
worth mentioning, 7 th assist of the season for giroud, and 8th for menez
these 2 white french players are the 2nd and 3rd best passers of ligue 1 (the first is the white french valbuena with 11 assists)

paris saint germain is still leader of ligue 1
 
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the players selected for the match against germany: (note that the arab benzema and the black remy are not in the list because of injury)

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goalkeepers:
lloris - white
mandanda - black
carrasso - white (jew)

defenders:
left back:
abidal - black
evra - black

right back:
reveillere - white
debuchy - white

central defenders:
mexes - white
rami - arab
sakho - black

middlefielders:
amalfitano - white
cabaye - viewed as white, but 1/4 asian
alou diarra - black
yann mvila - black
malouda - black
marvin martin - viewed as white, possible non white origin
nasri - arab

forwards:
giroud - white
gameiro - white
jeremy menez - white
ribery - white
saha - black
valbuena - white
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i put in bold amalfitano and valbuena because i mentioned that they deserved to be called above, and they are called now
mathieu (white) isn't called, evra and abidal instead

nolan roux (white) could have been called instead of saha (black)
roux scored the only goal of his team once again a few days ago
no gourcuff (white), but malouda (black), who never plays in chelsea
mexes is back from injury



that's 13 whites (or viewed as whites) out of 23, more than 50 % (56% exactly), that's even better than when we played against united states (i think there was 50% whites)
 

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i saw something recently that really shows how the french national team was disliked by the public
the friendly match between germany and france had less viewers than the rugby match between france and ireland on TV (both were available for free on TV in france)
this is the result of the past ten years of black dominance in the french national team, and the bad results that came with it
too bad, because they missed a great performance by a white french team for once :biggrin:
 
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