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  1. Don Wassall

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    If Decker signs with the Jets it will show he's ignorant of the Caste System, which he likely is given my impressions of him. He should re-sign with the Broncos at a discount if no teams with good QBs are interested in him. It would be a discount that would pay off down the road as he would continue to put up good stats and could sign another big contract as he's still young. If Decker goes to the Jets he'll have almost no chance, between the incompetence of Smiff and the city's hostile media and DWFs, to avoid being quickly labeled a bust.
     
  2. Freethinker

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    Have to say I'm pleasantly surprised that Gerhart signed a good money deal with a team that has an open path to him starting. With that said, we've been burned too many times before by the Caste NFL so I'll temper my enthusiasm until week 1 if or when Toby is starting.

    A few minor footnotes for a White friendly organization. The Eagles signed special teams ace and safety Chris Maragos. While it's unlikely he'll start, you never know with injuries plus in Seattle he stood no chance. I'm happy he moved to a better team. The Eagles also just signed OLB Bryan Braman, formerly of the Texans. Braman was never given a chance to start on Houston despite the fact that he would produce and put up gaudy stats every pre-season. Maybe he'll get an opportunity even though they have Cole and Barwin already?
     
  3. Leonardfan

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    I have to echo Don's sentiments about Decker. He did say he had two other teams besides the Jets interested. He really needs to leave New York without signing a contract unless they plan on bringing in a white QB via the draft or Free Agency. New England would be smart to sign him.

    Also, when monitoring the free agent wire it is amazing how many black no name players there are in the league and DWFs all cheer when these bums get signed to whatever team the DWF identifies with.
     
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  4. Don Wassall

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    Unlike us, when they read Weenieworld (which is admittedly a good site for updates) and other media outlets, DWFs take their little snap judgments seriously rather than reacting with the combination of laughter and contempt they deserve. To cite just one example of literally dozens daily, Weenieworld was vicious toward Toby Gerhart after he signed, but a journeyman like Matt Shaughnessy is praised. Shaughnessy has been exceptionally injury prone but managed to stay healthy last year and put up a pitiful 36 tackles as an outside linebacker for Arizona, yet Weenieworld praises that performance.

    Meantime Gerhart averaged a phenomenal 7.9 yards per rushing attempt last year and has a career rushing average of 4.7, won the Doak Walker Award and finished second in the Heisman voting, yet has no potential as an NFL back. Imagine if the NFL had no black starting QBs and one came along with the equivalent talent and proven performance of Gerhart and Weenieworld and other media outlets declared he had no chance of succeeding as an NFL starting QB. Yet extreme racism against White athletes (and Whites in general) is essentially rewarded as there is no downside to it:


    The Patriots are hosting free agent DE/OLB Matt Shaughnessy on a visit Wednesday. Shaughnessy took a one-year "prove it" deal in free agency a year ago and it paid off. He made the transition to 3-4 outside linebacker and recorded 36 tackles, three sacks, three fumble recoveries and seven pass breakups. Shaughnessy would add to an already solid defensive end corps in the Patriots' 4-3, giving Chandler Jones and Rob Ninkovich some rotational breaks.


    Jaguars signed RB Toby Gerhart to a three-year, $10.5 million contract. The shockingly hefty deal includes $4.5 million guaranteed, ensuring that Gerhart will run ahead of incumbent Jordan Todman as the Jags 2014 starter. Free agent Maurice Jones-Drew is a goner. It's putting a ton of faith in Gerhart, a four-year backup that excels in pass protection but has very little wiggle or burst to his game. And with Chad Henne at quarterback, there aren't going to be very many short-yardage touchdown opportunities. Fantasy owners and the Jags project to be disappointed by Gerhart as a feature back.
     
  5. bigunreal

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    So far, the only bright spot in free agency has been the signing of Gerhart in Jacksonville, where only a true Casteon scenario could stop him from being the starter. The Patriots' mass de-whitening is astonishing. Why would a persistent failure like Lombardi be able to wield such influence on Belichick and company?

    I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned here, but Eric Decker is not only making it difficult to root for him, he's also helping to undermine his own market value. Here is Decker on Demaryous Thomas, from last week:

    "I think
    Demaryius Thomas is on a complete different level with his talent," Decker said Monday, via The Denver Post. "I think he's a top five-caliber receiver in this league. How it falls off from there, where you look at a receiver, I just try to be versatile and play all the positions. People might want to label me, but I don't want to put a label on myself."

    Can you imagine ANY black player in the league- even a 4th string DB, giving such praise to ANY white player in the league, especially one that was competing directly against him? In its glaring stupidity, this reminds me of how Drew Bennett, when HE was the number one free agent WR, took a low-ball offer from the Rams to be their THIRD receiver. Given his absurd comments, it wouldn't surprise me to see Decker go to the Jets, and personally proclaim that he wasn't expecting to be the number one receiver there.

    Another transaction that even Rotoworld called a "head scratcher" is the Chargers' inexplicable signing, for 3 years, $10.5 million, of RB Donald Brown. Now how does this make business sense in any way, shape or form? The ONLY way it makes sense is if the league wanted to do something to cut down on Woodhead's production. And coming right on the heels of the unexpectedly positive news about Gerhart, one cannot help but wonder if Gerhart's new status effected the RB quota system and forced this nonsensical move.

    Peyton Hillis, we are gleefully informed by Rotoworld, was only given $100,000 of guaranteed money in his contract. And again, right after they re-signed him, they signed future Hall of Famer Rashad Jennings, whom the local New York media is already proclaiming to be the new lead back. Hillis will be lucky to make the team.

    Even the Riley Cooper signing was tempered by the shocking signing of Macklin, too. Unless they trade Jackson (and those kinds of veteran trades are always rare), Cooper may very well go into the season as a number 3 WR. Even in that offense, his numbers would almost certainly go down.

    I am now fully anticipating that we will see Johnny Manziel's stoic expression on draft day, as he becomes the latest Brady Quinn-Aaron Rodgers-Jimmy Clausen white player to "slide" way down the board. If he doesn't go to a team where he will be the starter, then I have finally had it with my addiction to this criminal league.
     
  6. Thrashen

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    With the addition of Braman and Maragos, the Eagles now have astonishing 9 white defenders on their roster…

    DE – Brandon Bair, Joe Kruger, Bryan Braman
    OLB – Connor Barwin
    ILB – Casey Matthews, Jake Knott, Jason Phillips, Travis Long
    FS – Chris Maragos*

    *Keep in mind that FS, Colt Anderson, is a free agent and could be re-signed.

    Couple this plethora of white defenders with having Foles, Cooper, Maehl, Celek, Ertz, Casey, and a 4/5 white OL (in fact, LT Jason Peters and camp body, Michael Bomiro are the only non-white OL on the roster), and Chip Kelly’s squad could certainly overtake Belichick’s Patriots as “Caste Football’s Official Team.”
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    The Broncos signed DeMarcus Ware to a 3 year $30 million deal. His play has slipped and he was hurt much of last season and he's getting up there in age yet is still paid as a megastar while Jared Allen is threatening to retire because no team appears serious about trying to sign him.

    Peyton Manning is my favorite football player ever, but the Broncos (Blackos?) are becoming impossible to root for. I gave them a pass last season because of injuries to some White players who were starters, but they may rank with the blackest teams in the league in '14 the way Elway is going. Even Derek Wolfe's starting job is now in danger with the signing of Ware and Wolfe's serious injuries last year (neck injury and later a seizure).

    Looks ominous in New England too so far. The hiring of Mike Lombardi may have signaled a sharp change in philosophy. The Chargers signing of Donald Brown also looks bad, but then again 2013 was the first year Ryan Mathews managed to stay healthy and I believe he's a free agent after this season.

    Looks good with the Eagles so far, and the Packers are showing interest in Owen Daniels. Would be nice to finally see them have a White starting tight end for the first time since Mark Chmura.

    If the Broncos sink to the bottom and the Patriots fall noticeably demographically, there may be new teams to root for like the Jaguars and Cardinals. One thing the NFL never changes is that teams must stay within certain strict unwritten guidelines as far as number of White starters and how many Whites are "allowed" on the roster. They rise and fall within those parameters over time depending on the preferences of new coaching, GM and ownership regimes. The Patriots have been the exception, but maybe that's ending now. . .
     
  8. Thrashen

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    With black TE’s Andrew Quarless and Jermichael Finley free agents (and neither expected to be re-signed), it would be nice to see Owen Daniels sign with the Packers. Daniels and Ryan Taylor would become the #1 and #2 TE’s on a team that has featured exclusively black TE’s since Mark Chmura, with fleeting appearances by Wesley Walls, Spencer Havner, and Tom Crabtree…

    Let’s hope that Green Bay is finally moving on from their attempts to replace Bubba Franks, who was possibly the slowest, least-athletic, and least-productive TE in the NFL for 8 agonizing seasons.
     
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  9. goyim

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    The default opinion of white running backs in NFL scouting departments and sports writers is that they're "plodders" who are only useful in pass protection. These people are no different from the majority of the American population in that they're fully entrenched in their Frankfurt School indoctrination, where they have learned to deny the validity of what's in front of their very own eyes.

    Any degree of intellectual honesty couldn't possibly lead to the conclusion that Gerhart has no explosion or ability as a feature back. Sports media gets away with its pathological dishonesty because neither their readers or their bosses hold them accountable.
     
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    The weinieworld write-up did mention his lack of "wiggle". It's one of those mysterious, non-testable, non-verifiable qualities that ONLY blacks have. It's similar to "loose hips", whatever that means.
     
  11. Don Wassall

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    Very well put.

    Hmm, let's see. Adrian Peterson -- 5.0 career average per rush in the NFL, one of the all-time best in that department and universally acclaimed as one of the very best running backs ever.

    Toby Gerhart -- 4.7 career average per rush in the NFL, Doak Walker Award winner, equals a plodder with no moves who is best suited to play fullback or at best be used on third and very short running plays.
     
  12. Freethinker

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    Yes, if they have a fairly White draft coupled with a favorable Cut Day, it is very possible the 2014 Philadelphia Eagles might crack the sacred 50% roster total. This could be our best chance to test the "caste masters" as it seems New England and Minnesota are going in the wrong direction.
     
  13. bigunreal

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    And now the Bucs sign 34 year old Josh McCown and Lovie instantly says "yes he is" his 2014 starting QB. So Glennon, far and away last year's best rookie QB, doesn't even get to compete?

    The fact that Glennon's play didn't earn him the permanent job indicates just how high the bar is now for young white QBs. Gabbart is gone, Ponder will be gone, and probably Locker, too. How well will Manziel and others (assuming any even get a chance) have to perform in order to keep starting jobs?

    Shocking that McCown didn't go to Buffalo or the Jets, huh? This league is a corrupt joke.
     
  14. Upside

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    It will be the bigest mistake of his career if he goes to the Jets. Geno is the most inept QB I've seen play in a long time, and his inability to deliver the ball, coupled with the NY media, has the potential end Decker's career. Be smart Decker!!

    Nice landing spot for Gerhart; the Jags won a few games down the stretch last season. They are a team on the rise. I was hoping they would have landed McCown or Cassel at QB though. NO Bridgewater, Please!!!

    Maragos is a guy I'll be watching. I think he has all the tools to be a starter in this league. If he gets an opportunity, he is a guy that might open some eyes! As we all know, Philly could use some help in the secondary.

    I would have prefered to see Braman go to a team in need. Maybe they'll move Cole to DE, and get Braman in at OLB.
     
  15. Freethinker

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    Yep, I hear you bigunreal. It's so hard to stomach this corporate entertainment "sports" league. It's real in the sense that a reality show, like Survivor, is with real people competing in real "competition". But in Survivor, CBS controls the parameters just like the NFL Powers That Be control this "football reality show". By law of averages there would be outliers like a team that's 75% White, that starts a White CB, has a majority White defense, etc but we never see this. I guess if we are to continue to follow the NFL we should take joy in the small achievements like a White receiver going over 1,000 yards, Hillis cracking 1,000, Woodhead scoring touchdowns, etc.

    So on that note, in positive news:

    Let's hope so.
     
  16. Don Wassall

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    I don't see this as a negative as long as the idea is to start McCown for a season or two while continuing to groom Glennon. McCown himself is someone who could have/should have been a long-time starter rather than a backup and occasional fill-in starter. He has a strong and accurate arm and is fast and mobile enough that Mike Martz moved him to WR for a short time a few seasons back.

    It would be a lot worse if Tampa had signed Michael Vick, who's the only FA black QB who could conceivably be signed as a starter, as dumb as that would be.
     
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    Here is Walterfootballs take on the Gerhart signing. Sometimes they are fair to white players but not in this case.

    Jaguars sign RB Toby Gerhart (3 years, $10.5M; $4.5M gtd): MILLEN SEXY SUSPENDERS Grade
    It's almost as if general manager David Caldwell watched zero film of Toby Gerhart in the pros. It also seems like Caldwell had zero awareness that the running back market had completely dried up. If this wasn't common sense enough for him, all he had to do was tune into ESPN and listen to Bill Polian for two seconds.

    Gerhart wasn't even close to being one of the top running backs available. In fact, he's just a mediocre backup. Yet, the Jaguars apparently think he can start for them, which is just insane. They could have waited things out and snagged a more talented runner for less money, but they decided to burn more cash on yet another crappy free agent.

    Once again, any Millen grade is an F. Caldwell definitely deserves one for being so completely inept.
     
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    True, but I think the thing that is upsetting about it is that Glennon clearly outperformed Geno Smith and EJ Manuel, yet he gets replaced, and Geno and EJ keep their starting jobs. Nor do you see the Jets and Bills making much of an effort to look at available QBs, but for SOME REASON, QB seemed to be a priority for Tampa, despite having obvious needs at TE, DL, LB, OL, and WR.
     
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    There's no question about that as black QBs have to be pandered to and babied and get longer to realize their upside, whether it exists or not, than White QBs. But I'm just looking at Glennon's situation in isolation from the double standard and I think having McCown there to learn from can make Glennon that much more effective when he starts again. Young quarterbacks in general do better when they spend a season or two or three learning from an established veteran. Starting them from the get-go or mid-way through their rookie season happens more frequently now than it used to.
     
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    Damn, just saw breaking news on the ticker, Decker has signed with the Jets. It's a horrible move, the downgrade in QB quality is off the charts for one. And as we all know, the Jets organization is rotten from top to bottom. I just hope he got paid good money and is now set for life because from a football perspective, he's going into a black hole from which he may never emerge again.
     
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    Its official...Decker to the Jets:frusty:

    Broncos down to two white starters at the moment (maybe 3 with Wolfe on D), Peyton Manning and Wes Welker

    Denver got dark in a hurry, thanks John
     
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    Deal is for 5/$36.5 million, with $15 million guaranteed. It's not that much money, though he's set financially. It would've been a much better move to take a million or two less, and go to Indy or stay in Denver. I read a few posts in one of the Jets forums, and the DWFs don't appear too thrilled, no surprise there.

    This whole thing stinks.
     
  23. Lew

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    RIP Eric Decker's career. Although on the bright side for him he does get to live the dream. Being young, handsome, rich , and living in NYC. It doesn't get much better than that. And 40 million is a ton of money for a white player.
     
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    positive spin is that Decker did well in college and his qb was never very good, couldn't anticipate wideouts getting open, not very accurate,not a very strong arm, usually led him into some big hits where he put his passes, they ran a spread offense one of his years when he put up some nice numbers, but the qb didn't make more than one or two reads, then they ran to more of a pro style, and same deal, kind of pointless to have 4 wideouts when only 1 is going to get the majority. They had another White wr who had potential when they ran the spread but his talent was never utilized I believe he played some games with a quotaback starting as well, or at least getting playing time and did well there.

    The only downside is that he will make Smith look good if he does what he did in college. Sometimes, in rare cases, a wideout can make a qb much bettter, I think Decker has that capability. Its probably going to be an inconsistent stat line from week to week but I think he can put up some good numbers. Decker should have really thought more about this though. Besides being aware of the caste system, which many White athlets aren't, he didn't bother looking at game film of the quarterback? that would make the most sense. "Which qb is going to make me look the best", or perhaps his ol lady has something to do with this, with their reality tv show, with New York being a bigger market and everything.
     
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    Decker is a moron for signing with the Jets plain and simple. Don't care about the "business side" of the things, he has a pampered, dimwitted, half-retarded QB now. I echo most other sentiments on this board that he should of stayed with Peyton in Denver. Just a terrible, terrible move. Jets have a heavy jewish fanbase, major DWF fan base and are a constant target in the NY Tabloids. He will get blamed for the human stink that is Geno Smiff. Only thing I can think of is that they have promised to bring in another QB via the draft.

    The whole McCown to TB move stinks, Glennon is getting screwed over. Hatie Smiff also said they may also add a QB via the draft. Glennon more than proved himself with his rookie season, he played much better than the pampered and babied smiff or the oft-injured EJ Manuel.

    I despise the NFL more and more, especially over the past few seasons. The Peyton Hillis season of 2010/Tebow of 2011 might of been our highwater mark. Both mark how two white players perform well, defy expectations and perform superbly only to be ****ed over.
     

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