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Discussion in 'Happy Hour' started by Ambrose, Feb 22, 2016.
Take 18 minutes to learn something. The narrator says it well. The solution is to be a Man.
Ironically, this subject (feminism/feminists destroying Western Civilization) crossed my mind again today (as it has for about ten or so years now) before even watching this video as what I see and experience day-to-day is a constant reminder of this.
It's a good video, and very important, but many here at CF are already well-aware of this, so there's not really a need to "learn something", which is kind of a condescending way to put it to us, but it's a good reminder. Glad it's received so many views in such short time, though.
Agree about the condescending attitude.
I came across the same video earlier today. It's well done, except for blaming "Western men" while ignoring that it has been a deliberate engineering agenda by Jewish elites (Frankfurt School/cultural communist adherents) and their goy fellow travelers. It's been a top-down onslaught for the past 50 years that has psychologically disarmed White men, who have strong love and protective instincts for women, wonderful attributes that have been thoroughly demonized.
The beginning of the video, when it refers to feminism damaging Western society brings up a valid point.
A lot of old timers will say that the overall quality of life in the West has been declining steadily since the 1950's (around the time when women became highly involved in the work force and gave up their roles as mom's and wive's). I know for a fact that discretionary levels of personal income when accounted for inflation in Canada have been considerably declining since 1999, and continue to do so today. The economy is in very bad shape in the West, I don't think people realize how much the economy in the West is built on credit and debts to moneys that simply do not exist. It's a fraudulent economy built on make believe money we have here and we're going to be surpassed very soon by the East (China, India) if we haven't been already.
Liberating women from her slavery from man's oppression as a wife and mother, the woman has simply become enslaved by the corporate world of today. We've all heard of the declining White birth rates and feminism, women involved in the workplace, and women's rights bears complete responsiblity for that. On some levels, feminism is thus genocidal.
The video also brings up the point that the traditional family unit (man husband and woman wife) is instrumental for economic reasons, namely, it gives men and women a motivation to be productive in their lives and it also encourages women to support him and bear children, thus sustaining the society. Today, this family unit has been largely tampered with if not removed from society and many men have little to no motivation to take an active part in the economy. Now that the family unit has been broken down, and children are no longer being made at a sustainable level. You get the feeling there are a lot of disenfranchised men who have opted out of being a productive member of the economy.
The video is also completely correct when he talks about women betraying their in group. He points out the many White women who are passionate about accepting Middle Eastern refugees. Loyalty and consistency are not 2 values exhibited by women.
Lastly, the video is correct when it ties feminism in with a larger leftist movement, and points out that as women gained power in society, society moved further to the left. Part of the reason for that is that women have a herd-mentality and would rather redistribute wealth and count on the government than actually create their own wealth or be responsible for their own actions.
As a racially aware, right wing White Male, I think there are 2 paths to take here:
1) Is to stay single and do your own thing. This is what I'm currently doing. I mean, I've had several girlfriends in the past (all of which have been nonWhite) but doing my own thing is also pretty sweet. I enjoy being single. You can get by financially very easily when you're doing your own thing in fact you can do a lot better than just getting by. You can have hobbies, have a lot of sex, and have political views, but you dont need a relationship or marriage.
2) Cohabitate/reproduce with a nonWhite female. The reason I say this, is because when you begin to understand women's nature you see this as the best course of action. The truth is women will always be more attracted to men from other races, which goes back to the point about women betraying their in group. As a White Male, I've posted pics of myself on this site with like 3 or 4 different Middle Eastern ex girlfriends. I've also had a lot of black girls interested in dating me, like a lot, I was personally never interested. But my point is attraction is often times outside of your immediate race. Even with white women, in my opinion they tend to be more attracted to men of other races. This is women's nature. I don't see any reason why a White male would actually marry a White female these days. Its an extremely dangerous game to be playing with a likely divorce in the end, and Western women have been so corrupted by feminism its not worth even talking to them anymore.
If you really want my opinion, I agree with Tyson Fury when he says that women belong in the kitchen or on their back. They shouldn't be voting and society has been getting increasingly worse off everytime women have a larger say in things.
Things in the West are not going to stay as they are. Because of feminism of the white race is becoming a minority everywhere. The question a generation from now will be if the nonwhite majority will accept this type of feminism and leftism and I'm going to say no, that they wont. The video alludes to "Muslims taking over the West" and he is right. White people arent having kids and are dying out because of leftism. Islam is a male-dominated society and that is why it is replacing the West, and Christianity for that matter. It is the fastest growing religion in the world.
In fact I'm happy to see immigrants coming from the Middle East, South Asia, and Asia here! There's only so much feminism and political correctness you can take from these White liberals and it is refreshing that these migrant cultures aren't so vulnerable to leftism. The video talks about how Swedish women have campaigned for migrants in their country and their country is now being destroyed by the migrants brought in by the Swedish feminists and liberals. I give them no sympathy, they deserve what they get. And if Muslims take over their country, good riddance, Muslims will restore the proper order and male dominance as the Swedes should have done but failed to do so.
It all started going downhill when women were given the vote, I think that is the mistake the Western man made.
^ Lol yes the key guys is to definitely knock up non whites. Your Asian/middle eastern fetish is creepy. Do you want your kids to look you? Main reason I want a white wife...
BS you start off making sense sounding like you want to solve the problem then you reach the conclusion that White men should stay single and only have sex with non-White women. Your conclusion makes no sense, unless what you really want is the demise of the White race. White men should marry White women and have as many White children with them as they can financially support and care for. White liberals/progressives will die out since they don't reproduce and their idiotic, insane, suicidal, self-destructive philosophy is becoming obvious to intelligent people. Intelligent, traditional White people will continue to see the truth and will continue to have and raise children. There are 10 US states with a TFR over 2.0. 2.08 TFR is replacement level. Those states are Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, North and South Dakota, Utah, Idaho and Alaska. The Whites in all those states, in the whole "Red", real America part of the country actually are as a whole traditional, Christian, and are not going to give in to progressivism or Islam or all the left wing neocon crap. This includes Evangelicals, devout Catholics, Mormons, and Anabaptists who practice Christianity and are keeping it alive and won't let Islam take over The West.
Whites all around the world who are intelligent and strong and have the ability to persevere are going to continue to fight the NWO and Islam, continue to have and raise children, and keep alive and thriving the greatest civilization and culture in the history of the world.
BS x 2
Yep, that pretty much is a good name for him.
Riggins really gets it: bulls-eye. Bravo.
A family is a private society; a man makes his own private society with his wife and children; he cares for them so that he can benefit from their care and reciprocity when they are old enough to help; that's how we always did it; yes, we "use" our wife and children; "use" is the ancient word for "trust"; a white man takes a white wife because of "familiarity"; we trust what is truest to us because we expect the least conflict and likelihood of desertion; a real man honors his contracts (marriage) and lives up to his duties and obligations; in exchange for meeting his contractual obligations he gets the immense benefits of his own private society. We don't need help/interference from outside societies (the STATE) if we do our life's work properly.
There are plenty of good white women out there, but to make your own family you have to make money and have some physical land property upon which you can make a home and "stead" (place).
And, man, its a lot of fun succeeding!
Thank you very much for your comments!
We all have different opinions on this issue, and how to "solve" a declining white birth rate. For you, as you say, you think that Whites should "fight back" by seeking out other traditional whites and having kids with them. I suppose that's one way to go about it, and maybe you're right. There's nothing wrong with a White man marrying a White woman. However, that is not the path I wish to take, and its a path I am suspicious of. To speak plain English: Statistically, you have the highest chance of divorce with a White woman, and it's hard to imagine a Western woman that hasn't been tampered with by feminism. You advise to find traditional white people, well I don't think that exists in Canada outside of a few far-right websites like this and people such as myself (which are in the extreme minority of whites).
As a right wing male, and I am proud of my race, it is a sad truth but a truth nonetheless to learn that the vast majority of whites (95%+) don't agree with right wing sentiment and whether they realize it or not, are feminists, leftists, and liberals. It's important to consider these things objectively.
Let me clarify though, when I said to have children with nonWhites, I'm talking about Middle Easterners, Asians, or lightskin South Asians/Hispanics. Personally I find the women in these races to be much more accommodating to my viewpoints, and much less tampered with by feminism.
It's OK if we don't agree, I respect other people's viewpoints, as I hope they understand mine as well. Thank you.
BSSpecialist x 2, you have once again outed yourself as not being one of us (Pro-White). I have no clue as to why you are on this board other than to troll, which you do regularly. Ambrose is also trending troll.
Yeah, and they both established their presence through the boxing forum.
Colonel Reb :
If this is "trolling" and anti-white:
"A family is a private society; a man makes his own private society with his wife and children; he cares for them so that he can benefit from their care and reciprocity when they are old enough to help; that's how we always did it; yes, we "use" our wife and children; "use" is the ancient word for "trust"; a white man takes a white wife because of "familiarity"; we trust what is truest to us because we expect the least conflict and likelihood of desertion; a real man honors his contracts (marriage) and lives up to his duties and obligations; in exchange for meeting his contractual obligations he gets the immense benefits of his own private society. We don't need help/interference from outside societies (the STATE) if we do our life's work properly.
There are plenty of good white women out there, but to make your own family you have to make money and have some physical land property upon which you can make a home and "stead" (place).
And, man, its a lot of fun succeeding!" -Ambrose
Maybe football is all you really know?
The key is to find the right white lady. Marry her and make babies. Then fight for the rights of your family. I admit I've had horrible luck finding the one but I will never give up. Neither should anyone here.
i've not had terrible luck. i found a terrific White woman, and she's the mother of my child. she's also got another one in the oven and hopefully ready at the end of August. fighting for them is all the incentive a man should need. all that other crap posted by some misguided individuals above is worse than pointless. it's an actual obstacle to achieving this most important goal of passing on your genes to another generation.
White babies are the most precious and important resource on this planet.
When I joined this site in 2011, I made it very clear from Day 1 that I had a lot of traditionally "Non White" Middle Eastern girlfriends and used a more open door policy for defining who is white.
Peoples' ideas change over time. It would be a bad thing if my views today were the exact same as they were when I joined this site in 2011.
I do consider myself pro-White, but more than that I would define myself as "far right" socially, culturally, and economically. Race is an important part of being far right, but issues such as gender and morality are also extremely important.
Id also like to point out that very often it is mixed race individuals, such as George Zimmerman (he is half non white) who come to represent pro White interests.
So I certainly do not agree with some sort of closed door policy on being white. We need to embrace other populations to stay relevant. So, I do have favourable views on Asians, Middle Easterners, and some Hispanics, and some South Asians.
As a far right White male, its important to note that a lot of the difficulties facing the white race today are self inflicted. Yes, there is Zionist propaganda. But a large part of the problem is a pervasive leftist trend among whites themselves.
As someone who is racially aware and White, you are significantly outnumbered by your fellow whites the majority of who are liberals, negro worshipers, feminists, gay rights activists and so on. It is hard to support these Whites when my views differ so substantially than theirs. These White liberals are a big part of the problem. Doormat men are also a big part of the problem concerning feminism because they allow it to happen.
Finding a White wife is one path. But not the only path. There is nothing about having an Asian or Middle Eastern wife that prevents you from being proWhite. As I said, in order to stay relevant white nationalists need to broaden their approach a bit.
On the contrary, one of the icons of white supremacy in USA (George Zimmerman) is in fact half non white.
Maybe we can agree then to politely disagree?
Maybe you're too nice, I hear being an a-hole is something the ladies really like. You should check out the "game" sites that offer advice on scoring with chicks, those guys sure seem like they're happy and well adjusted.
May every man decide for himself. That is the nature of liberty. Peace.
That "key" is like finding a needle in a haystack in America 2.0 (or is it 3.0, now?). Sure, if you find it, that would be great, but it's highly unlikely these days, at least in the modern Anglo world (USA, Canada, UK, Australia, NZ), Ireland, and all of Western Europe.
Also, if a divorce should occur, in court, it's no longer you versus her, it's you versus "The State" as they are completely on her side (when you enter into marriage in the US now, it's a contract between you and the state, not between you and her). You can help protect yourself to a degree by first living in a state that has fairer divorce laws for men. From what I've discerned from a couple of male friends or mine that have been through it, is to own your house, fully, and have title to it before you marry and do not co-mingle funds, i.e.) share bank accounts. In those states, she's only entitled to half of the appreciation of the house since you gained title to it and is entitled to only the funds in her bank account.
There's a small trend of single, heterosexual, White males going down the road of surrogacy to have children. Not all countries (rightfully, so) will allow single men to obtain a surrogacy, like the Ukraine, and some others. However, places like Greece are OK with it, as well as the USA. The problem with the USA is that a White womb is a very expensive commodity, and will cost you a fortune (White women in the USA have waaaaayyyy too many other options available to them (hence their attitude). It's much cheaper in a place like Greece, where the people have been economically devastated due to the Zionist banker's plundering of their assets. You can get a Greek woman for around $5/hour for her body (prostitution) now, because of her desperation, so paying her $10K to be a surrogate sounds like a good deal for her. There's a lot of information out there about on the web and the countries that will allow it for single men.
The only other option is to move to Eastern Europe, Russia, or White areas in South America, where the women aren't as tainted and corrupt as they are in the West and where "The State" isn't her advocate in a court of law. A lot of men will bring one of them back to the USA, but from the stories I've heard, including one from a friend-of-a-friend, those can be nightmares because the woman soon realizes the legal power that women have in this country (called the cops on him for sexually-molesting their children (a lie) and now has full custody of the children...ultimately, no charges were brought because there was no evidence and the children themselves denied it happened, but he was taken away and had to leave his house (that he was still paying a mortgage on) just based upon her accusation, and now has to pay child support and alimony). They also notice the media's demonization of us, and act and behave accordingly (i.e. become just like the Western women that they are trying to escape from).
Sad but true post, Heretic. It's not as simple as just finding a White woman when the cultural communists have used "gender warfare" with devastating effectiveness for the past half century. Thinking White men have to consider a variety of options, including expatriation.
This is a great post and right on the money. It's OK to say "find a white wife and have white kids, otherwise you're not pro-white", and maybe for some guys that works but actually finding a woman in the West that doesn't have feminist inclinations is probably an impossible task. I do know in my personal life many white males (coworkers and friends) who are married to white females and in essentially all of those cases the man has made tremendous compromises to make things work. And the truth is things usually don't work, and the divorce rate is very high with a Western woman. It is approximately 50%.
Surrogacy is a great suggestion, and becoming increasingly practical. There have been White males in Canada who have used Brown females as a surrogate mom. I believe the price is around what you have suggested, 10000$ or so. You can also find white women to use as a surrogate mom for very cheap, but it would likely be outside of the West. In all honesty, I think this is perhaps a more practical solution and better advice than "finding a white wife in USA or Canada or England".
As another option to the 2 you have listed, I would state to marry and reproduce with a Middle Eastern, Asian, or whitish Hispanic or South Asian. Many of these women, even when they immigrate here hold on to their comparably traditional values. For example, many Muslim women have a duty to sexually satisfy their husband in a marriage according to Islamic law. Western women, even if they are your wife will claim "rape" if you try and force sex, which incidentally used to be guaranteed to a man in a marriage but feminists changed the laws in the 60's and 70's so that it is no longer guaranteed to a man (but of course the man still has HIS obligations in a marriage). As a White male, I've had several Iranian and Afghan girlfriends and I can say from first hand experience that these women are much more traditional and welcoming of a masculine, right wing male partner. I had to make almost no compromises in these relationships. And compared to white men with white women the compromises are endless, I see my own father who cohabitates with a white woman, he gets no sex, and even simple tasks such as doing housework his female partner does not want to do. At that point, you question what value these Western White women even bring to a relationship. The problem is that Western women actually think they are "equal" to a man. Whereas Muslim or Asian women value traditional gender roles and will not treat you as an equal. Many Muslim women are borderline or in fact white, such as those from Iran, Afghanistan, and even North Africa and the Gulf States.
At the end of the day we all make our own choices but I think it is bad advice to be telling young white men to marry a Western female.