English Premier League 2012-13

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  1. Rebajlo

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    arsenal scored a goal with an offside today :icon_smile: but it doesn't matter much because they were already winning
    they came back from 1-0 for norwitch to 2-1 thanks to giroud who obtained a penalty and scored the second arsenal goal
    he's taking over, he's very influential now

    carroll also scored again for west ham, a great free kick
    when he's healthy he's one of the best strikers in premier league
     
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    I watched that match and was happy to see Carroll score. That Uruguayan, Gaston, even though he scored, was horrendous in the second half. His free kicks were embarrassing.
     
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    Last weekend saw an "abbreviated" round of seven matches.

    Matches played Saturday April 13th and Sunday April 14th:

    Arsenal 3 Norwich City 1

    ARSENAL:


    Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks

    NORWICH:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    Aston Villa 1 Fulham 1

    VILLA:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    FULHAM:

    Started: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks

    Everton 2 Queens Park Rangers 0

    EVERTON:

    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
    Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian

    QPR:

    Started: 3 Whites (1 Englishman), 7 blacks, 1 Asian
    Finished: 2 Whites (1 Englishman), 8 blacks, 1 Arab

    Reading 0 Liverpool 0

    READING:

    Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Turk
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

    LIVERPOOL:

    Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 mestizo
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    Southampton 1 West Ham United 1

    SOUTHAMPTON:

    Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Asian
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks

    Newcastle United 0 Sunderland 3

    NEWCASTLE:

    Started: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
    Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab

    SUNDERLAND:

    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

    Stoke City 0 Manchester United 2

    STOKE:

    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    MAN. UNITED:

    Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Asian
    Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Asian


    SUMMARY OF ROUND:

    154 starters

    Whites: 96 (62.337 %) - Englishmen: 33 (21.428 %)

    Blacks: 50 (32.467 %) - "English" blacks: 15 (9.74 %)

    Other non-Whites: 8 (5.194 %)

    15 goals (Whites: 11; blacks: 3; 1 own goal scored by a black)


    Arsenal vs Everton tonight, followed by Manchester City vs Wigan, West Ham vs Manchester United, and Fulham vs Chelsea on Wednesday.
     
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    Tuesday, April 16:

    Arsenal 0 Everton 0

    ARSENAL:

    Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks

    EVERTON:

    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
    Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab

    Welsh club Cardiff City (owned by Malaysian Chinese...:mad2:) has secured promotion to the Premier League with three games to spare following last night's scoreless home draw against Charlton Athletic.
     
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    Matches played Wednesday, April 17:

    Manchester City 1 Wigan Athletic 0

    MAN. CITY:


    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo

    WIGAN:


    Started: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian
    Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 mestizo

    West Ham United 2 Manchester United 2

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Maori

    MAN. UNITED:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo

    Fulham 0 Chelsea 3

    FULHAM:

    Started: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Turk

    CHELSEA:


    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks


    SUMMARY OF MIDWEEK MATCHES
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    88 starters

    Whites: 55 (62.5 %) - Englishmen: 14 (15.909 %)

    Blacks: 26 (29.545 %) - "English" blacks: 7 (7.954 %)

    Other non-Whites: 7 (7.954 %)

    8 goals (Whites: 4; blacks: 3; mestizos: 1)
     
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    Suarez bit a player today. He bit someone in Holland a few years ago and got a 7 game ban. He called someone in England a name and got an 8 game ban. I'd rather be called a name than bitten. We'll see if he gets more than 8 games now.
     
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    "He cheats! He dives! He likes his snacks alive! Luis suarez! Luis suarez!"


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    It was a stupid thing to do, I'm not excusing it, but Suarez is always game, he brings fighting spirit every week, a lot of white players could learn a lot from him.
     
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    Suarez is scum, yet many pro-White enthusiasts have "adopted" this piece of **** as some sort of hero because he:

    (a) committed an intentional hand-ball to stop a certain Ghanaian goal at the end of extra time during Uruguay's quarter-final match at the 2010 World Cup; and

    (b) "racially abused" Manchester United's Negro creep Patrice Evra during a Premier League match in 2011

    The fact that a player blatantly cheats is hardly admirable and I wonder if Suarez would be half as popular with such pro-White enthusiasts had he done the same in a World Cup quarter-final against a White nation, particularly Germany. I think not...

    I obviously couldn't care less about what Suarez said or didn't say to Evra, but I'll wager that his use of the word negrito wasn't intended to carry the implications pro-White enthusiasts attribute to it.

    Liverpool gave Suarez plenty of support during the "racial abuse controversy" yet how does he repay the club? Why, how else than by biting an opponent. A grown man biting someone (Rebajlo shakes head...). To make matters even worse, he'd previously bitten an opponent during his time in the Netherlands with Ajax. What does that say about him?

    Biting, spitting, diving, cheating and grabbing players' balls might traditionally be all the rage in South America but I sure as hell don't wish to see such behaviour in Britain or anywhere else in Europe...

    I'll post the weekend's Premier League breakdowns tomorrow...
     
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    goodbye QPR :tongue1: come back when you'll have noticed that the best teams in the world don't start 8 non-whites or even 9 out of 11
    i hope that they'll keep their black clowns and that they won't go in another club like they always do
    when you get relegated you deserve to play in 2nd division
     
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    Please explain.
     
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    Do you really need to be reminded that historically Germany has been very pro white in their agendas? I know in recent times the true German people are practically begging for ethnic cleansing but lets not pretend this was always the case. Hitler did get elected after all.

    I don't think the foreign idea of the German peoples sense of white pride is completely accurate but the stigma still stands
     
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    I think he's referring to the Germany First mentality of a lot of American white nationalists.

    As for football, United wrapped up the EPL with lots of matches to go closing in on a record points total. Bayern Munich won the Bundesliga a couple of weeks ago - the quickest in history. They won 1-6 away this weekend, 6-1 at home to Wolfsburg in some Cup match a few days before, 4-0 the week before and they decimated Hamburg last month. Barcelona were declared champions before 2013(!) by the manager of their main rivals, and in Italy Juventus have led almost all season. I think it's been the same with PSG in France. So when it comes to the battle for the championship has this been the most boring and uncompetitive year in recent European history?
     
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    Too late, Rebajlo. As regrettable as it is these things do exist in Britain and have done so for many years. Vinnie Jones was a ball-grabber yet he had such cult status he became a movie star (well, sort of). Frank Rijkaard spitting on Rudi Voeller in Milan with the whole world watching did not see his career prospects adversely affected and he certainly wasn't the first or last to spit on an opponent.

    I heard some guy on British radio saying Liverpool NEEDS to get rid of him to protect its reputation. LOL. Yeah right, what do they think this is - cricket? Like Man United suffered horribly for having a player - who also went on to become a film star - drop kick a spectator! Eden Hazard's kick to that ball-boy a few months ago is already forgotten by most fans. I see even fan hooliganism has returned in recent weeks. Speaking of which many (most?) Liverpool fans still claim Juventus Ultras were to blame for the Heysel stadium disaster so they aren't going to worry about some on field snacking. Football in England is more a refuge for vulgarians than ever and the fans and media lap it up.

    BTW can you imagine this Liverpool team without Suarez? They'll be playing QPR in the second div...oops!...I meant the Championship.
     
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    Arend -

    Right, here's the "explanation". Many American White Nationalists are of German or partial German descent and therefore the German national team is their team of choice. Plenty of American White Nationalists of non-German descent are also keen on Germany because of the Hitler / NS cult. During the World Cup or European Championship tournaments (when, naturally, more of our members participate in the soccer section) the most discussed team on Caste Football (an American site) happens to be - wait for it - Germany.

    I sincerely hope that clears things up for You...
     
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    Matra2 -

    Yeah, I know, but I still like to at least speak up for the notion of "decency". :icon_wink:

    I watched a lot of South American football in my younger years and was invariably disgusted by the rampant incidence of dirty play, which has always been more prevalent there than in Europe, so I freely admit to having a bias against the likes of Suarez.

    That the bollock-squeezing Vinnie Jones became (and remains) a cult hero says a lot about football fan "culture" (sic.). Jones' on-field notoriety combined with his ugly thug's boat provided a passport to, er, "cinema stardom". Guy Ritchie gave him his "big break" in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, in which that fat-gobbed Negro Sol "Coffin" Campbell makes a cameo appearance. The film also featured another celebrated "working class hero" - namely, Lenny "The Guv'nor" McLean. It goes without saying that I was less than impressed when Jones was selected to play for Wales, particularly after he had earlier stated his heartfelt wish to play for the Republic of Ireland...

    Blokes like Chopper Harris, Tommy Smith, and Billy Whitehurst would brutally kick, elbow, punch, and head-butt opponents but they didn't bite, spit, or grab people's tackle. I don't condone the aforementioned type of player's actions, but I never minded the old-style hard play I watched as a kid in the very late seventies and eighties. As You said, football isn't cricket. Then again, "modern" cricket is full of mouthy drunks and cowardly Pakis who can safely "sledge" in a non-contact sport whose scope for physical retribution is limited, particularly since the rules changed to curb the number of bouncers one could bowl per over.

    When it comes to spitting, I recall that Villa transfer-listed Savo Milosevic after he spat towards their fans during a 5-0 defeat at the hands of Blackburn Rovers back in 1998. Funnily enough, only a few years later the Negro El Hadji Diouf made a career of spitting at fans and players, yet was never transfer-listed as a result...

    As for Heysel, I've always been embarrassed by the Liverpool myth of their fans' "innocence". Growing up, I never liked the club because they were so dominant but in the denial-saturated aftermath of Heysel I developed an incandescent hatred of Liverpool and the attitudes they represented.

    Speaking of "football culture", as You are aware the UK brims with low-class pricks and bludgers, but the worst arseholes I encountered on my last visit were a pack of Arsenal yobs who got on the tube after a 3-0 win at home against West Brom: "'Arve 'ad ten pints, ah 'ave!!!!"

    Mind You, a couple of days earlier Fulham had played Wisla Krakow in the "Europa League" so London was full of Polish fans who had just flown in (hell knows why, as Wisla only started three Poles - then again, Fulham only started two Englishmen...). As I know the lingo, I listened in to various conversations and most of the interlocutors weren't exactly the cream of the intellectual crop either. The Polish discussions, however, were far more entertaining, if only for the "colourful" language...
     
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    Matches played Saturday, April 20; Sunday, April 21; and Monday, April 22:

    Fulham 0 Arsenal 1

    FULHAM:

    Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites* (No Englishmen*), 2 blacks, 1 Turk *Steve Sidwell sent off after 12'

    ARSENAL:

    Started: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites* (1 Englishman), 1 black "Olivier Giroud sent off after 90'

    Norwich City 2 Reading 1

    NORWICH:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    READING:


    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Turk
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    Queens Park Rangers 0 Stoke City 2

    QPR:

    Started: 3 Whites (3 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 Israeli
    Finished: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Israeli

    STOKE:

    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    Sunderland 1 Everton 0

    SUNDERLAND:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    EVERTON:


    Started: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian
    Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian

    Swansea City 0 Southampton 0

    SWANSEA:

    Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks
    Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks, 1 Asian

    SOUTHAMPTON:

    Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Asian
    Finished: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Asian

    West Bromwich Albion 1 Newcastle United 1

    WEST BROM:

    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
    Finished: 10 Whites (2 Englishmen), 1 black

    NEWCASTLE:

    Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
    Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab

    West Ham United 2 Wigan Athletic 0

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori
    Finished: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Maori

    WIGAN:

    Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian

    Tottenham Hotspur 3 Manchester City 1

    SPURS:

    Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

    MAN. CITY:


    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo

    Liverpool 2 Chelsea 2

    LIVERPOOL:

    Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    CHELSEA:

    Started: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Israeli

    Manchester United 3 Aston Villa 0

    MAN. UNITED:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 Asian
    Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 Asian

    VILLA:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab


    SUMMARY OF ROUND:

    220 starters

    Whites: 137 (62.272 %) - Englishmen: 47 (21.363 %)

    Blacks: 68 (30.909 %) - "English" blacks: 19 (8.636 %)

    Other non-Whites: 15 (6.818 %)

    22 goals (Whites: 14; blacks: 7; Arabs: 1)
     
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    Last update about the darkest team in the league - Queens Park Rangers. They are relegated.
    Their chairman - below...
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    actually has the cheek to blame the players that he brought in over the last 15 months since sacking Neil Warnock.
    Fernandes said: “It has shocked me. It’s an alien concept to me that someone takes someone’s salary, doesn’t put 100 per cent in, thinks, ‘Oh, we lost. No big deal. What club are we going to tonight?"

    There is a saying. You reap what you sow!
     
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    Matches played Saturday, April 27; Sunday, April 28; Monday, April 29:

    Manchester City 2 West Ham United 1

    MAN. CITY:

    Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo, 1 half-Asian
    Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    Everton 1 Fulham 0

    EVERTON:

    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
    Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk

    FULHAM:

    Started: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    Southampton 0 West Bromwich Albion 3

    SOUTHAMPTON:

    Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Asian
    Finished: 6 Whites* (1 Englishman), 2 blacks, 1 Asian *Gaston Ramirez sent off after 70'; Daniel Fox sent off after 82'

    WEST BROM:

    Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks*, 1 Argentine Jew *Marc-Antoine Fortune sent off after 70'

    Stoke City 1 Norwich City 0

    STOKE:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks

    NORWICH:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    Wigan Athletic 2 Tottenham Hotspur 2

    WIGAN:

    Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian
    Finished: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 mestizo

    SPURS:

    Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

    Newcastle United 0 Liverpool 6

    NEWCASTLE:

    Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
    Finished: 2 Whites* (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese *Mathieu Debuchy sent off after 75'

    LIVERPOOL:

    Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black

    Reading 0 Queens Park Rangers 0

    READING:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Turk
    Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Turk

    QPR:

    Started: 3 Whites (2 Englishmen), 7 blacks, 1 Arab
    Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 mestizo

    Chelsea 2 Swansea City 0

    CHELSEA:

    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

    SWANSEA:

    Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks, 1 Asian
    Finished: 5 Whites (No Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli

    Arsenal 1 Manchester United 1

    ARSENAL:

    Started: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

    MAN. UNITED:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks

    Aston Villa 6 Sunderland 1

    VILLA:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    SUNDERLAND:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks* *Stephane Sessegnon sent off after 70'

    SUMMARY OF ROUND:

    220 starters

    Whites: 132 (60 %) - Englishmen: 48 (21.818 %)

    Blacks: 73 (33.181 %) - "English" blacks: 26 (11.818 %)

    Other non-Whites: 15 (6.818 %)

    29 goals (Whites: 15; blacks: 13; 1 own goal scored by a black)


    Next round commences in just under two hours... :icon_wink:
     
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    Who says footballers pretend to be hurt? Click on the photo for a a close-up of his "distress".

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    it makes me laugh, but i know that it would turn me crazy if he was doing this against a team i root for :angry:
    FIFA admitted a few years ago that players were pretending to be hurt, and they said that it could be dangerous because the medical staff would be less concerned when a really dangerous injury or health problem (heart-related) occurs
    but they need to change the rules regarding injury time
    in rugby for example there is no injury time, the time stops everytime they are not playing
     
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    I agree with this and as said above, I hate players diving/feigning injury, ideally... they need to do something to stamp it out, such as allowing the referee to issue yellow cards, the only problem is leaving it to referees interpretation in real time is almost dangerous. What they could do is a system of reviewing each game footage the day after and hand out 1 game bans to anyone diving. I know this sounds harsh but there needs to be zero tolerance for diving, it's pathetic and is ruining football.
     
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    carroll is back to scoring goals
    if liverpool don't want him he could go to tottenham
    anyways tottenham will need to buy a striker because defoe and adebayor have been disapointments, especially adebayor
    so why not carroll
     

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