England - the new France

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Looks like England are going to be the new France. The latest under 21 squad England squad has just 5 white outfield players out of 17, the rest black or mixed.

Frankie Fielding (Blackburn), Scott Loach (Watford); Ryan Bertrand (Reading), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Michael Mancienne (Chelsea), Kyle Naughton (Tottenham), Micah Richards (Man City), James Tomkins (West Ham), Chris Smalling (Fulham); Lee Cattermole (Wigan), Fabien Delph (Aston Villa), Fabrice Muamba (Bolton), Jack Rodwell (Everton), Danny Rose (Tottenham); Andy Carroll (Newcastle), Freddie Sears (Crystal Palace), Junior Stanislas (West Ham), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), James Vaughan (Everton).

I went to school in England where there was quite a racial mix and there was no particular difference in abilities between the black or white players. Since then Ive played soccer with numerous people from many countries, black and white, and have come across great black players and great white players, terrible black players and terrible white players - in the same proportion. The question is then is why is the under 21 team 75% black? I really don't understand it.
 

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I can't believe that the "hooligans" will allow this farce. Of course this is the under 21 team, if this happens to the English National team I believe they will lose alot of fans.
 

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I think they are getting more and more caste over there. I heard that the academies are bringing in more and more black players.The scouts are told to go after "athletes" and we know what that means.When they cut the players at 16 at the academies, there is a large contingent of black players that don't get cut. The Premiership clubs will bring in black players from other clubs' academies at 16 also. I think it's going to get worse with the stupid recruitment policies coupled with the asinine immigration policies. Although the u21 team at the Euro tourny in 2007 was very white;I have to say. But I think it will get more and more disproportionate.
I hope something can change it, but the fans are getting more and more comfortable with all the foreign players, so they might not care about this either. They wouldn't be represented if 8 out of 11 starters are black on the national team, but they will probalby just accept it. There should be no more than 1 maybe 2 black starters on the team.
 

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Accesscrimea: Where did you live in England and did you go to college or lower levels of school there?The racial mix is still much less in England than it is in the US, especially in cities. London is about 80% white, where Chicago is about 30%, but there are pockets of well over 95 percent white in Chicago and areas that are 99% black.

I also am finished with the Italian team now that Bolatelli is on it.
 
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I lived in London - and its not 80% white! Where is went to school it was about 40% white, 30% black and 30% other.

One black player from my year was scouted out and entered into the QPR youth system. He was fast (although not the fastest in the year, who was white), and he was the best black player on the team, but there were about 3-4 white players on the team who were clearly better all round players than him. I couldnt believe it when i found out thats exactly HE had been picked out by the scouts.
 

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It look likes London is only 63% white. It's worse than I thought. The number I saw must have included some suburbs.

Your point about the kid on your team reenforces what I have been told.
 

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if i recall correctly, the most recent poll of London showed that at least 40% of London inhabitants 20 and under were non-white ...combine that with the flood of non-white immigration, and within 15 years or so Whites will be a minority in the capital of the formerly great British Empire. un-freaking-believable!
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things aren't looking good for not-so-jolly ol' England. hopefully, the BNP can turn things around. at least they're standing up and fighting for their country. here in the States, most of "our" politicians are whoring themselves out to the non-white crowd, and they are fighting to see who can spread their legs the widest.
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The funny thing is you know members of the "main" parties and voters don't want to live in Pakistan or African, but at the same time they are importing these countries.

Wasn't Pakistan formed because the Muslims want their own country and non Muslims had to leave Pakistan and go to India when it was formed? It's an official Muslim state.

The funny thing is that if Pakistanis or Africans tried to take over the country by force, they would be stopped. But now it's a gradual take over.It's like gaining weight. It slowly happens and you don't notice it, but all of a sudden you need new pants.
 

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Europe said:
The funny thing is you know members of the "main" parties and voters don't want to live in Pakistan or African, but at the same time they are importing these countries.

Wasn't Pakistan formed because the Muslims want their own country and non Muslims had to leave Pakistan and go to India when it was formed? It's an official Muslim state.

The funny thing is that if Pakistanis or Africans tried to take over the country by force, they would be stopped. But now it's a gradual take over.It's like gaining weight. It slowly happens and you don't notice it, but all of a sudden you need new pants.

The Good thing though, is that it is never to late to get in better shape until you are in the grave. All it takes is the will and a little effort. Whites in most Western countries are like the fat guy who sits on his couch eating potato chips, swilling beer and smoking 2 packs of cigs a day. Eventually he will have a heart attack or get stricken with diabetes. His doctor will tell him that he absolutely has to get his act together or he is gonna die. I'll never bet against the guy who understands that his life is on the line and he is playing for all the marbles.
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Actually the majority of immigration to the UK in the last few years has been from new EU countries - Czech, Latvia,Bulgaria, and in particular Poland. So i dont think its worth getting to bothered about immigrant demographics. More important - and relevant to this thread, is that all races are treated equally in soccer in the UK!

At least in the UK there is no sense amongst normal people (that i seem to get from the US)that whites are physically inferior - slower, less athletic, can't jump etc. In the US its almost like if a guy is white he must be slow, whereas in the UK a lot of fast soccer players are white, and in general the majority of the best players are white (with some exceptions). In fact in any world 'all star' team picked at the present moment all 11 players would be white.

Hence the make up of the England under 21 team doesnt make sense to me!
 

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accesscrimea said:
Actually the majority of immigration to the UK in the last few years has been from new EU countries - Czech, Latvia,Bulgaria, and in particular Poland. So i dont think its worth getting to bothered about immigrant demographics.

Unless you'd like England to remain English! Many of those Eastern European immigrants are as hostile to British nationalists as the non-whites.

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At least in the UK there is no sense amongst normal people (that i seem to get from the US)that whites are physically inferior - slower, less athletic, can't jump etc.

That is true but for how much longer? Britain (and Canada) follow America's lead. When I lived in the UK ten years ago I thought it was less PC than Canada and the US. Ten years later I'd say Britain has caught up, and in some areas, surpassed, North American political correctness.

There's no doubt though, the English U21 team was noticeably blacker than the main England international team, or any other england team - other than their relay sprinters.
 

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But there does seem to be discrimination if you look happened when they picked the black kid over the 3 or 4 white kids. They are looking for black players both at home and abroad.
 
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