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  1. Riggins44

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    I voted for populist nationalist immigration hardliner Corey Stewart in the Virginia Republican primary today, and he beat RINO GOP Establishment favorite Nick Freitas by a scant 4,000 votes. I am so glad. God willing he will beat globalist Tim Kaine in November.
     
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    Good news. I’ve heard positive things about Stewart.
     
  3. Menelik

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    Virginia is too purple for Stewart to win in a statewide election.
     
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    Take Populism Global! Italian Government Shows the Way for Trump
    by JAMES KIRKPATRICK • JUNE 11, 2018



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    The Great and the Good are furious about Donald Trump’s conduct at the G7 Summit, as journalists can’t believe an American president had the temerity to stand up for his nation’s interests at an international conference [One ‘rant,’ rough talks sour G7 mood in confrontations with Trump, Reuters, June 9, 2018]. They are especially incensed that President Trump broached re-admitting Russia into the summit, with the arch-traitor John McCain condemning the Commander-in-Chief on Twitter [Trump calls for Russia to be reinstated to G-7, threatens allies on trade, by Damian Paletta, Anne Gearan and John Wagner, Washington Post, June 8, 2018].

    Yet for all the talk of President Trump having problems with “allies,” it is the European Union that is facing rebellion within its own ranks. As President Trump recognized on his Twitter account, the new government of Italy is now one of his strongest international supporters.

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    Just met the new Prime Minister of Italy, @GiuseppeConteIT, a really great guy. He will be honored in Washington, at the @WhiteHouse, shortly. He will do a great job - the people of Italy got it right!

    Italy also joined President Trump’s call for Russia to be readmitted into the G-7 [Italian PM breaks with EU, backs Trump’s call for Russia to return to G8, by David Herszenhorn, Politico, June 8, 2018].

    Though the election of President Trump was a shock to the global Establishment, the victory of the new Italian government may prove to be even more important. The Five Star Movement and the Lega party, both of which are best described as “populist,” have joined forces to create a government that is prompting speculation about the breakup of the European Union [Italy’s new government could be the force that finally breaks Europe, by Sebastian Mallaby, Washington Post, May 23, 2018].

    Obviously, immigration patriots are most interested in the new interior minister, Matteo Salvini of Lega. He has already promised to deport half a million illegals, telling them to “pack your bags”. [Italy’s new government wants to deport 500,000 people, The Economist, June 7, 2018] Salvini also has a compelling message on what NATO should be used for, calling for collective European self-defense on immigration rather than scare mongering about Russia. “Italy is under attack from the south, not from the east,” he said recently [Italy to ask NATO to help deal with migrant flows: Salvini, by Crispian Balmer, Reuters, June 8, 2018].

    He is also already preventing migrant smugglers (what the MSM calls “rescue ships”) from continuing to deliver Third World invaders on Italian shores [Italy’s Matteo Salvini shuts ports to migrant rescue ship, BBC, June 10, 2018]

    Yet it is not just immigration policy that put this populist coalition in power. Lega is the more nationalist of the two ruling parties (despite originally starting as a Northern secessionist party.) It also tends to have what Americans would consider more conservative economic policies and during the election, was campaigning alongside Silvio Berlusconi’s center-right party. The Five Star Movement is more idiosyncratic, with environmentalism and more liberal economic policies among its planks, including the promise of a basic income [Italy’s 5-Star Movement defends guaranteed income pledge, by Michele Bertelli, DW, April 10, 2018].

    But both are firmly opposed to the austerity measures being imposed by the European Union, even as the supranational body created a huge migration crisis that disproportionately hurts Italy.

    Even reporters otherwise inclined to condemn nationalism reluctantly admit Italian voters aren’t exactly being irrational. As Kenneth Rapoza notes sadly:

    Italy chose nationalist leaders because of Brussels. It’s their fault. No one is voting for Lega and Five Star because they hate globalization. You don’t see Italians rising up in protest against Chinese companies making inroads there. Instead, you see them protesting austerity being ordered from on high by people none of them elected. Instead, you see them protesting against hundreds upon hundreds of migrant men—not migrant families, not migrant women and children—piling in on Zodiacs. That is how Lega and Five Star came to be. Because globalization hasn’t changed in the last 10 years. But since the housing crisis and since the destruction of Libya and, to a lesser degree, Syria, austerity and immigration policy has.

    [What Really Worries People About The Italy-EU Fight, Forbes, June 7, 2018]

    The Italian people’s fury against Brussels wasn’t helped when key EU institutions pressured Italian President Sergio Mattarella to initially reject a Five Star Movement/Lega government and try to impose yet another pro-austerity finance minister. This might well have triggered new elections, except the resulting furor likely would have led to an even greater majority for the populist coalition [Italy in fresh political chaos amid calls to impeach the president, AFP, May 28, 2018]. Caving to a Lega/Five Star Movement Government was probably the least destructive thing the EU could do at this point.

    However, as Srdja Trifkovic points out, even as the corporate media is trying to boost the EU, the Union still faces existential danger.

    In the long run, the oligarchs in Brussels and bankers in Frankfurt now face serious threats on many fronts. Brexit, the new coalition in in Italy, growth of AfD in Germany and popularity of Ciudadanos in Spain, along with a defiant Victor Orban in Hungary and his like-minded colleagues in Poland, herald a new era.

    [Italy’s “populist” government, Chronicles, June 06, 2018]

    Rachel Donadio at The Atlantic hopes international institutions will keep the new government in check on economics, but concedes the EU can’t do much on immigration. She writes: “In the economy, certain European rules could prevent Italy from going totally off the rails. When it comes to immigration, things could get rough—at least in rhetoric” [It’s the Right Wing’s Italy Now, June 6, 2018].

    Yet if the EU tries to enforce these “rules,” Italy could easily call their bluff. In the wake of Brexit, the EU can ill afford another member-state breaking with Brussels, particularly given current developments in Eastern Europe.

    Italy is a great example of the paradigm promoted by Steve Bannon and others: the current divide in politics is not Left versus Right but populist versus globalist. [Bannon to French far-right party: ‘Let them call you racist… Wear it as a badge of honor,’ by Elaine Ganley, Chicago Tribune, March 10, 2018] Together, Lega and the Five Star Movement have built a powerful coalition of those who feel both economically and socially disenfranchised and have successfully conquered their country. Of course, this being Italy, the coalition is unstable and only time will tell if the coalition can hold together. But for now, it shows that innovative policy making (such as championing basic income), populist economics, and nationalist policies on immigration and sovereignty are a winning combination.

    Which is precisely what Donald Trump seemed to represent during the 2016 election. He promised that if he won, the GOP would become a “workers’ party,” pledging not to cut entitlements like Social Security [Trump: GOP will become ‘worker’s party’ under me, by Nick Gass, Politico, May 26, 2016].

    Yet, while economic growth is strong, President Trump has not confronted Wall Street since entering the Oval Office—instead, he invited Goldman Sachs executives into his Cabinet. Instead of taking some populist policies from the Left, President Trump has mostly carried water for the corporate GOP Establishment, notably during the disastrous health care debacle.

    Trump has been fairly strong on trade and has made some promising moves on immigration (though we still don’t have a wall). But he’s going to have to do more to keep the loyalty of the working-class voters he inspired in 2016.

    The MSM has shown it will never accept President Trump’s legitimacy—it is best he keeps his populist credentials by delivering economically for his supporters by defending entitlements, keeping a tight labor market through immigration enforcement, and doing more to cut health care costs.

    Indeed, if it didn’t threaten GOP orthodoxy, it would be politically successful if President Trump also started broaching ideas such as more infrastructure spending and maybe even basic income. (Fund it by taxing the entertainment industry).

    During the 2016 campaign, Matteo Salvini visited Donald Trump and pledged his support. [Donald Trump gets my backing, says Italy’s Matteo Salvini, by Stephanie Kirchgaessner, The Guardian, April 26, 2016] At the time, it looked like a European fringe candidate drawing inspiration from America.

    Now it is time for the American president to draw inspiration from Europe. Ironically, the best way to beat the globalists is to take populism global.

    https://www.unz.com/article/take-populism-global-italian-government-shows-the-way-for-trump/
     
  5. Riggins44

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    We'll see.
     
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    What a great article. I feel really good after reading that.
     
  7. Heretic

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    Merkel may be out of power sometime this week because of the migrant situation there.

    Trump's tweet this morning:
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    The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture.
     
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    10-term, old, White, Democrat establishment candidate, Joe Crowley, beaten badly by 28 year-old Latina Democratic Socialist candidate in New York.

    Here's a pic of her, representing just one of the future non-White demographic group that will make up the majority of the USSA in the not-so-distant future and what they will stand for:
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    In their debate, Crowley apologized for being White...

    His opponent, he said, was trying to make the campaign “about race” — a strategy he called “unnecessarily divisive” at a time when the party needed to be “fighting Republicans, not other Democrats,” according to two people at the gathering.

    “I can’t help that I was born white,” Crowley said.
     
  9. Riggins44

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    What a weakling the white establishment candidate Crowley is. Any person who doesn't have the basic self respect to have pride in their own race, and instead apologizes for what they are, is a self-loathing coward and a pus#y who deserves no respect from other people. People pick up on that and no one wants to identify with or vote for a sorry wretch like that. Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.
     
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    Sounds like karma for Crowley.
     
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    That district is in Queens and The Bronx. According to the latest census, it’s 50% Hispanic and only 18% White. It’s amazing that Crowley lasted this long.

    Elections in a multi-racial country are basically a racial head count. White Democrats are not going to have a place in their party if they live anywhere “diverse”. I hope many get the picture and join the GOP, effectively turning it into the official “White party” once and for all.
     
  12. Heretic

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    Good point. I heard today that this area was "Archie Bunker's old 'stomping grounds'", so I'm guessing it was majority White and working class back then. If a White liberal is politically ambitious and wants to run for some political office now, but can't win because of their race, then where does that leave them? Will they awaken to their dispossession and the racism against them and join the Republican Party or will they double-down, cuck harder, and hope for acceptance in a party that hates them and be willing to cast aside their political ambition?
     
  13. BeyondFedUp

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    The Left in 2018: Unhinged (...and might I add very dangerous):

     
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    Here's an even more revealing version:

     
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    When they put those clips together and you realize how crazy these people are it's pretty darn frightening.
     
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    Those of us on the right are going to have to start defending ourselves against these people. They are so stupid, there won't be any choice.
     
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    Sweden Democrats (Populist party that the (((media))) labels "far right") Make Gains in Swedish Election, Despite Reports of Widespread Fraud

    I didn't know that Sweden doesn't have secret ballots. Apparently, they place all of the ballots out open on tables for the specific party and were either placing the ones for the Sweden Democrats on a table all of their own so they would know who was voting for them. Also reports of no ballots whatsoever for the Sweden Democrats at all at some polling places.

    A comment I read from a Swede about it:

    We very much do not have secret ballots, and the fault that you pointed out with people filling out the papers and handing them out has actually happend. And not only that, at some point SD's papers where on an entirely different table in order to single out the voters and in some cases the papers were gone completely, there has also been cases where those who count the votes outright throw away SD votes and count blank votes as votes for the social democrats. For the first time ever a Swedish election has been monitored by foreign observers, one of these, Michael Aastrup Jensen from Denmark, said that the Swedish elections are even more undemocratic than the Russian. Make no mistake, the result of this election is not legitimate.
     
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    Wow, that is amazing. I had no idea. The amount of amoral, reprobate scum in this world with no sense of right and wrong is astounding.
     
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    Controversial Dem Socialist Candidate Julia Salazar Wins NY State Senate Seat, 58-42

    The magazine also questioned Salazar's political and religious transformation from a Republican, anti-abortion Christian to a hard-left, Jewish Democrat during her years at Columbia University.

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    In the end, the questions about Salazar's past weren't enough to derail her campaign, which began attracting wide attention after fellow democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez scored a surprise win in June's congressional primary over U.S. Rep. Joseph Crowley.

    Salazar built a grassroots campaign to unseat Dilan on the grounds that he hadn't done enough to help the poor or stop gentrification of the district. She assailed him for taking campaign contributions from real estate interests.

    For his part, Dilan described Salazar as a pretender and a gentrifier herself and vowed his constituents would stick with him.


    These establishment candidates dug their own graves by supporting unchecked legal and illegal immigration...now they are being replaced by them. Karma is a b*tch, as they say.
     
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    ...or stop gentrification of the district. Gentrification is a good thing. It means that an area which is a rundown urban blight is renovated into a nice place. The complaint here is that it displaces poor folks. Wrong again. The new improvements provide opportunities and jobs for those same poor people, making them NOT poor people. It just doesn't help those who don't want to work and just want to be sponges off of the rest of us. Oh, right, that's part of the Democrat base.
     
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    So the “far right” Brazilian Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, exceeded (fake) polls and expectations by winning the first round of voting by a large margin. His 46% is a huge number but because he did not get to the 50% needed there will be a 2nd round at the end of the month. The communist who will be in the runoff only garnered 29%. Bolsonaro should win easily unless there is massive voter fraud.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...d-trump-surges-general-election-voting-begins

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    Such a great result. Looks like Brazilians are getting tired of the 62,000(!) murders a year in their country and don't want to become another Venezuela. We should all pray to God that Bolsonaro wins the final election. He only needs 4% more of the total vote.

    In the globalist Marxist media coverage of Bolsonaro, he is always described as far right. Well obviously since he got 46% of the vote, in Brazil he is not far right. He is centrist, since almost half of the voters agree with his ideas. The communist media constantly pushes out the big lie that their far left poison is centrist, and traditional, conservative, Christian values are far right. Its called moving the goal posts.

    God bless Jair Bolsonaro. May he become the next President of Brazil.
     
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    Great news and great points, Riggins44. I saw this news earlier yesterday and felt at least some relief.

    These world events are telling about people's worldview. I usually go ahead and tell people once they get into the political talk thing and I know my opinion is asked for (I stay quiet at first) I state that politics is not the "all that ends all" in life. Then I immediately state that "Jesus Christ is the all that ends all". Then I say nothing. Right then and there the conversation will go on or not go on. If they want to know anything else I usually state in an enunciated tone for emphasis that in the eyes of the media I would be viewed as an ultra, super right, uber, extremist compared to someone like Limbaugh or Hannity, since all people know who they are. I tell them that compared to me those guys are liberal pinko Communists. Then after either the laughter or stunned looks pass, I let them continue the conversation in whatever direction they want it to go. I think more people like us need to state exactly where we stand because trying to be mamby pamby and apologizing in essense will never work with true haters.

    This may not be you guys' approach. I get that. No problem. But I am getting to where my time is too valuable to cater to any Leftist who is stiff-necked towards truth and my Savior.
     
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    Google Design Lead David Hogue:
    ‘Evil’ Republicans Will ‘Descend into Flames’ of Hell.
    “You are finished, @GOP. You polished the final nail for your own coffins. F*CK. YOU. ALL. TO. HELL,” posted Hogue. “I hope the last images burned into your slimy, evil, treasonous retinas are millions of women laughing and clapping and celebrating as your souls descend into the flames.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018...republicans-will-descend-into-flames-of-hell/
     

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