Christian McCaffrey

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  1. Jimmy Chitwood

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    at the midpoint of the season, McCaffrey leads the NFL in rushing yards per game (110+), yards-per-carry for qualifying running backs (5.3), touchdowns (10), and has the second-longest run from scrimmage (84td). he also is second in total rushing to Dalvin Cook, but Cook has played in 9 games to Christian’s 8.

    these stellar numbers don’t include CMac’s production in the passing game, which blows away the league’s tailblacks.
     
  2. The Sapient

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    The clip is from 2-3 weeks ago, but it calls out the elephant in the room.

    The conversation of Greg Olsen’s most athletic teammates start around the 6min 43 second mark.

    Christian McCaffrey is mentioned at the 8 min mark and then Olsen states “he doesn’t get enough credit to how athletic he is” and then Cris Carter follows it up with “and most of that it’s because he’s white.”

    Olsen agrees, chuckles and says, “Thank you....That is 100% part of it.”

     
  3. dwid

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    Good stuff just don't like how he follows with "unique". I mean he is special but there could be more White backs tearing it up if given the chance.
     
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    Absolutely. This is the scourge of this league in the "verboten" positions.
     
  5. sprintstar

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    Dwid, there "would" be far more whites tearing it up not "could" be.
     
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    Christian McCaffrey was in a better position to succeed than any white RB prospect in what, five decades? His father was a well-known NFL player. He went to a private high school were he was a huge standout and attracted college recruiters He played college ball at Stanford, where he would play RB and get plenty of publicity. These factors ensured McCaffrey would get a full opportunity to shine in the NFL. And he had the desire to use his talent to the full degree.

    Now its being said Christian McCaffrey should have won the Heisman in 2015.
     
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    McCaffrey faced many of the same obstacles that other white RB's have faced. There are a couple of articles which touch on this when he went to Elite Prospect Camps. The primary difference is that he is unbelievably competitive, unapologetic and fearless. You clearly can see this in his play today. Christian didn't pull a "play it cool" Gerhart at Minnesota. Gerhart was equally talented , although size, speed , toolset comparisons aren't entirely fair. Gerhart, who as we documented, both tolerated and took significant punishment/ racial taunts from his own teammates without immediately pushing back. The fact that Gerhart didn't excel in the NFL and his story still pisses me off today ! I do agree , Sport Historian, that McCaffrey having his pedigree , a solid legacy and a coach/ program which are pretty colorblind were definitely helpful. However, he earned everything that he has achieved. Let's not forget he spent considerable time preparing and lining up in the slot for Combine, Pro Day workouts. This could have easily gone the wrong way for him, and us CF'ers. . This should be a lesson to others. You have to seize what limited opportunities you may get , promote and not apologize for nor marginalize your talent in spite of overwhelming odds. .....There will be other juggernauts.
     
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    All great points and it was also said in many articles that the majority of colleges that recruited him to not want him to be a running back at their school. Just imagine that? It would never happen to
    any other running back unless they were white. We almost never witnessed the greatest college running back ever to play the game and one of the best nfl rb's ever so far! This anti white society is at
    every level. Sports is just a reflection of society in general. Whites need to fight back and claim what is theirs. Quit going along with the main stream which is anti white!
     
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    We've lamented Gerhart's seeming lack of toughness, as far as sticking up for himself and not fighting back as key causes for his short NFL career. He seemingly lacked the upbringing and life experience (playing at Stanford rather than a program with more urban "student-affletes") to be aware of black culture and how it asserts itself to test all White athletes, much the way prisons work. Toby ended up being branded as soft, not by opponents but by his own teammates before he ever played a regular season game.

    Gerhart was also victimized by being stuck behind Adrian Peterson before finally getting a chance to start with Jax, which had no chance at success because the Jags' o-line was very bad and didn't open any running lanes for Toby, which is what he needed as a straight-ahead, one-cut power runner.

    McCaffrey has benefited from a unique set of circumstances working in his favor, along with his great ability and mental toughness. But the bottom line is that this is a one-and-done outlier. There is no resulting drive to recruit more top White running backs from the high school ranks, while talented White runners like Nall, Zenner and Laird have just a few measly carries between them, all by Zenner. When black QBs began to have some success, the recruitment of them became even more intensive, and second-tier talents already in the league were given opportunities to play and at least establish themselves as backups. Such will never be the case for Whites at RB, WR, and defense, just as it's never the case for something to have the opportunity to become more White in any other area of society. When that does happen it's immediately denounced as "too white" and "lacking diversity"by the cultural communist commissars, and "adjustments"are quickly made. The NFL practices more extreme forms of anti-White discrimination, but overall is little different from the efforts to marginalize and replace White men throughout society.
     
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    Dalvin Cook is 2 yards ahead of CMC in yards rushing after yesterday's games (991 to 989), but the Vikings have not had a bye week yet. Both will cross over 1000 yards next game.
     
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    not sure if this is the same video because yours says private and won't play



    But some valid points and talking about how Christian will inspire more White kids to play rb like Wes Welker opened up the door for White slot receivers (I hope). Sharpe says "Yep now we just need a White corner "

    Mentioning how the White backs before him tended to be the big bruising kind so this will encourage the ones that are a little smaller and faster to play the position (I hope they aren't funneled to other positions and encouraged to bulk up but a good discussion for mainstream media)
     
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    I've wrestled with this question for a couple of years now! It certainly could lead to more white RBs, but its so easy to chalk CMC up as some kind of unicorn, an extreme outlier, who doesn't represent white athletes as a whole. Wes Welker was undrafted as well as being slower an smaller than most receivers so it was way more eye opening that he had the career he did. Nobody ever denied CMC's athleticism and his ability to play the running back position. I think it is overly optimistic to assume that coaches and scouts will start looking at white running backs like they are the next Christian McCaffery. I think the door for the next generation of white RBs is predicated on the performance of guys like Laird, Burkhead, and Zenner who are closer to the mean of NFL RBs, but hey you have to start somewhere. Certainly McCaffery will inspire more white kids to play RB, I know I wish growing up that I would have had a white RB to look up to for inspiration!
     
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    There is a white high school RB from North Carolina named Will Shipley, who is being called a "McCaffrey type." Notre Dame is said to be recruiting him.
     
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    That is essentially how any productive white athlete is treated - as an outlier. The positive thing is that this conversation is now being had out in the open - it is a small step for sure but it is a conversation that Hillis, Welker, Jordy were not able to bring to the forefront (no fault of their own).
     
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    Yea well maybe it will make White kids more adamant about playing the RB position but the future doesn't look good as far as coaches and scouts being fair After writing this I looked at the college football section to see who I should make highlight videos for and it's depressing. No White receivers to reach 1000 yards this year?! I was thinking we would have at least a few.
     
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    you’ve made a handful of interesting comments here that i’d like to respond to.

    1) McCaffrey is certainly viewed as a unicorn now that he is dominating. there’s no question of that.

    2) McCaffrey actually DID have his talent denied coming out of high school, and that fact was well documented in various threads (and even a few news articles) in the collegiate forums here at CF. a couple of notable points that bear repeating here:

    A) he was frequently ignored/thought to be a kicker when participating at various recruiting camps, until he had the chance to actually perform, which only happened after he insisted on not changing positions.
    B) he wasn’t recruited as a tailback by most programs, instead being targeted to change positions to slot receiver. this is likely the reason (if i recall correctly) that he didn’t go to USC. i seem to remember then-head-coach Pete Carroll refused to consider him for a tailback spot.
    C) coming out of Stanford and entering the Draft, most “experts” projected him to need to change positions to, you guessed it, slot receiver, because he was “undersized” to play tailback.
    D) the list could go on for quite a while, but hopefully the point is made: even a talent like McCaffrey had considerable pushback against him.

    3) that McCaffrey is already inspiring other White athletes is already being noticed (see Borghi at Washington State), but whether it will transfer to more White athletes getting a chance to play verboten positions remains to be seen. the list of INCREDIBLE White athletes who were completely ignored because of the Caste System is miles long. most don’t have the support system and platform (see his parental lineage) that Christian has, and so the Caste System grinds them up and spits them out or completely ignores them (ever hear of Knile Knapp for instance?).

    without a doubt, posters here could list hundreds of other players at “black” positions that have been screwed over. if nothing else, hopefully McCaffrey’s success will shine a light on the issue and be a positive influence on young White people from all walks of life.

     
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    As Don mentioned, and as mentioned in the above video, CMaC staying healthy is the key factor responsible for where he's at right now. If CMaC had sustained multiple injuries thus far, it would have justified him accepting a lesser role as a change of pace RB, or even moved to the slot.
    In general, coaches may question the durability of white RBs, which may, in part, explain the lack of opportunities. One can point out Burkhead and Hillis as examples who may have reinforced this perception.
     
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    Re: the Olsen interview upthread, kudos to him for his honesty. He sounds like an intelligent, well-spoken guy who may have a second career in the booth. It will be interesting to see if he maintains this level of honesty should he secure a job with the corporate media when his playing days are over.
     
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    Another thought- many coaches, but clearly not all, probably fear alienating their black players on the roster should they start a white kid at a position dominated by blacks.
     
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    I think this is definitely a factor. Blacks seem to think certain positions are "their" positions.
     
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    I wonder why they hold on to the running back spot though. If you think about it, it involves a lot of wear and tear, on average they make less than kickers and punters, and the average career lasts about 3 to 4 years. I know they aren't known for their smarts but jeez.

    Looking up the salaries I was happy to see Burkhead is top 20, McCaffrey is only a few slots higher at 14 but hopefully that should change soon.

    Looking at the pay I think I'm gonna have my kid learn how to be a long snapper lol. Long career, decent money and not much wear and tear.
     
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    It's a macho thing, an important part of black pride and of the psy-war to convince White boys and men that they're less tough and masculine than black males. J. B. Cash covered it well some years back: http://www.castefootball.us/index.p...-case-of-misplaced-white-running-backs.11336/
     
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