Chad Greenway

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  1. Charlie

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    On the subject of black players deliberately attempting to hurt white players. On the 700 Club, of all places, they profiled a black preacher/community activist who once played college football. He said his racial anger fueled his football success. His goal was to KILL a white player during a game because it would be legal. If he were to kill a white off the field there might be a legal issue.

    Of course he's reformed now, with a nice smile to prove it.

    Chuck Cecil always went full speed, even during practice. During one drill he knocked unconscious two WRs in a row. The coaches quickly took him aside to explain it wasn't necessary to do that.

    Reverse the races. Would the coaches have done the same thing? Did any coach ever explain to Will Demps that Shockey wins games while Demps at best might not be so bad as to lose games?

    (Will Demps supports my idea a person is black or not black. His mother is Korean. But who considers him Korean?)

    (Cecil was a gifted defender who would have been a good NFL player even without the monster hits. Better than average speed, uncanny anticipation, sure tackler. But he never believed he had the physical skills necessary to compete against 'better' athletes. So he needlessly shortened his career.)
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    Greenway has led the Vikings in total tackles every game so far this season, doubly impressive when doing it as an outside backer. He's reached beast status.
     
  3. backrow

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    an interesting fact:

    Chad Greenway led the league in tackles for a loss with 13
     
  4. whiteathlete33

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    From Rotoworld:

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    According to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune's Sid Hartman,
    the Vikings plan to use the franchise tag on free agent SLB Chad
    Greenway.

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    Just keep in mind that Hartman is a columnist, not really a
    reporter. If Greenway is tagged, the Vikings would risk losing fellow
    free agent Sidney Rice. Greenway, 28, has been the Vikes' leading
    tackler three seasons running.

    Greenway is easily one of the most underrated players in the entire league.
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  5. backrow

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    Chad got some respect.

    Vikings signed SLB Chad Greenway to a four-year extension through 2015.

    Greenway was previously under contract through 2011 on a $10.091 million franchise tender. Though he's yet to make a Pro Bowl, the 28-year-old is one of the stoutest and best all-around 4-3 linebackers in football. Pro Football Focus graded Greenway as the fifth best player in the league at the position last season. Also an IDP stud, he's averaging 116 tackles a year over the past four seasons. The Vikings confirmed their high opinion of Greenway by franchising him over both Sidney Rice and Ray Edwards during the winter.
     
  6. DixieDestroyer

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    Greenway tied for lead (NFC defense) in overall tackles (4) in the Pro Bowl. :)
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    Weenieworld often mentions the rankings by position compiled by Pro Football Focus when it praises or denigrates players. I have no idea how these oft-referenced rankings are compiled; resources would be needed to do film study on every player on every play to come up with something fairly objective. But it often seems that Pro Football Focus has the same built-in anti-White bias as does Rivals and the "services" that rank high school players. I mean really, Chad Greenway is the second worst outside linebacker in the league????? Greenway has had a phenomenal career, routinely out-tackling all but the very best middle linebackers and making his share of big plays. He's built up a nice case for eventual inclusion in the Hall of Fame. Unless he suddenly tailed off big-time this season, which I have read nothing about, this blurb from Weenieworld seems to be serving both Weenieworld's and Pro Football Focus's agenda:


    Vikings WLB Chad Greenway is owed $6.5 million in salary and bonuses in 2014. His base salary is $6.4 million with a $100,000 offseason workout bonus. Turning 31 later this month, Greenway is coming off of a horrific season where he graded out 34th among 35 qualifiers in Pro Football Focus' 4-3 outside linebacker ratings. Only Miami's Philip Wheeler was worse. We suspect the Vikings will keep Greenway for 2014, but it's hardly a guarantee. Minnesota may undergo a rebuilding process this spring after ranking 31st in total defense.
     
  8. Awake in America

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    Aside from making a lot of tackles, and getting respectable numbers on sacks and interceptions, Greenway doesn't do all that much. Seriously, he is one of the very best 4-3 OLBs in the game. They compare him to Wheeler: Greenway has 16 more tackles, 3 more sacks, and 3 more interceptions (Wheeler has never picked off a pass). What a joke. Lurking DWFs, analyze this one. What a joke.
     
  9. dwid

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    the site is a joke, they were giving out grades/ranking players before all 22 (coaches film) even came out. How do you grade something where you only a small section of the field? The camera only follows the ball. They don't know what the player's assignments are. I wonder how much football knowledge they actually have.

    weenieworld referenced Paul Poz as being a bad player well, I believe using pff backing it up "yeah he will rack of a ton of tackles, but they won't mean anything" or something along those lines.

    I remember reading that they had like 5 people on staff going over games for long hours. I am sorry but it takes a long time just to go over one team. You have at least 22 players, but more than that now with all the different personnel packages, you'd have to watch the same game and key on a specific player.

    Teams don't keep starting White players because they rack up fantasy points, they have to be at least above average. Who is really going to watch all the Vikings games or the Jaguars to see how Greenway or Paul Poz did on defense to challenge these guys?

    Its just crap to put out there so fans can argue on message boards about getting rid of player x and making it look like they have something knowledgeble to back it up. This is how it was with Scott Shanle, even after a linebackers coach (I think he was from TCU) broke down Shanle's play and showed that it was above average.
     
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