Black QBs in the NFL

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  1. Wes Woodhead

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    Very good post by Mr. Jaxvid. The nest step after RG3 is to see if they can convince little white girls that the great apes are "handsome", and totally legitimate to sleep with. If anybody says different they must be "racissssst"
     
  2. white is right

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    Well yesterdays game probably burst the bubble on Geno Smith. Two straight mediocre games should drop him from the number 1 overall qb and possible 1 overall pick. But then again 4 or 5 hot games got him evaluated from a mid round pick to the number 1 pick....:huh::thumbdown:
     
  3. jerseypinebarrens

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    been watching espn (every second promoting negroes) football preview,, Some jewish jocksniffer just compared rg3's 6game stats to a bunch of hall of famers lifetime numbers. What an a$$h---. Then Jaws and some other scmuck compared all rookie qbs and announced rg3 the winner with the usual sucking up. I don't mind this guy getting noticed but he's being raised way above his accomplishment.........
     
  4. Tom Iron

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    jerseypinebarrens - Welcome to the board Sir. Yup, rgiii will be just another black qb flop by this time next year. Happens every year like clockwork.

    Tom Iron...
     
  5. whiteathlete33

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    It all depends on how he finishes out the season. I suspect he will still be given consideration as the number 1 overall pick if he plays decently from now on.
     
  6. jerseypinebarrens

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    Thanks Tom I agree with you except that he probably won't last the season.......





    Hey don't call me sir, I work for a living. lol
     
  7. Phall

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    Sadly, the Baylor hype machine already convinced one of them.

    RGIII engaged (spoiler: do not click if nauseated easily)
     
  8. davidholly

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    Yeah I saw that **** too, it's funny, when RG3 has a subpar performance DWFs are quick to say you can't judge on such a small sample size. On the other hand they're more than happy to compare a 6 game sample size to a 150 game sample size...
     
  9. Anak

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    Let's see if he can keep it up throughout the season now that the replacement refs aren't there to bail him out at every turn. The "official" refs are corrupt and inept but they try to be a little more inconspicuous about it.
     
  10. Pie

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    I frequent another message board which has a popular sports section while not being a sports oriented message board in general. So in a place like that the folks are even less knowledgeable than your average sports enthusiast DWF. It has been just bracingly unbelievable how hyped up most of them are for Geno Smith.

    A lot of them who never heard of the guy before this season are philosophizing that their team should try and lose out(and this started as soon as week 3) to take Geno as the first pick in the draft. When he got violated in this last game they were all screaming at the coaches for not having him pass down field more to utilize his talent, vision, accuracy and cannon arm, as though dink and dunk wasn't his calling card and the cause for his stat inflation in the first place.

    Like the vast majority of sites out there being direct on the caste system would get an immediate ban, so I have to drop subtle hints for the masses, but most will never even begin to think outside the box.
     
  11. Extra Point

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    I refuse to call Robert Griffin "RG3." They can hype his nickname all they want but I won't go along with the program.
     
  12. foreverfree

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    Funny how (most) CasteFootballers, even bigunreal, use Griffin's nickname, un-cut-up, even as they bash him. Shows how the hype machine works even on them.

    John
     
  13. Don Wassall

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    Jason Whitlock's latest take on black QBs:

    The “information bubble” is the No. 1 obstacle/hindrance for black NFL quarterbacks.

    This bubble creates delusion, erodes self-awareness and unwittingly undermines a black QB’s chance of sustaining success.

    Cam Newton is a victim of the information bubble. Robert Griffin III is the bubble’s next target.

    Let me explain. We’re in our political season. Democrats and Republicans both have their respective information bubbles, MSNBC and FOX News, respectively. They can lock their televisions on a single channel and avoid hearing their perspectives challenged in a credible way and hear their critics’ lambasted. It’s comforting. It’s polarizing. It’s unhealthy for intellectual growth and our democracy.

    Black sports fans and black pop-culture media (not sports media) have created a loosely-formed-but-influential social-media and talk-radio information bubble for black QBs. This network of groupthink roars on sports-talk radio, black-owned radio stations, Facebook and Twitter, pumping out the message that Newton, Griffin and others can do no wrong and any criticism of them is rooted in racism. Fear of backlash from this network of well-intentioned enablers causes many mainstream sports analysts (media and fans of all colors) to avoid being totally honest about black QBs.

    That’s how a career-killing, information bubble is formed.

    White QBs don’t have to deal with this. In Kansas City, a group of fans paid for a banner to be flown over Arrowhead Stadium that called for owner Clark Hunt to bench Matt Cassel. Kansas City’s backup quarterback is Brady Quinn, the Cleveland bust. He’s not a solution. But he was named the starter on Monday.

    Imagine the uproar if Eagles fans took similar action against turnover-machine Michael Vick? There would be riots in the streets. Philly fans would be labeled racist.
    Information bubbles are destructive, whether in politics or sports.

    Cam Newton is being ruined. In the aftermath of Sunday’s loss to the Cowboys, Newton, once again, handled the postgame news conference horribly. He not-so-subtly criticized his coaching staff. He flippantly quipped that he wanted to bring a suggestion box into the news conference. He condescendingly called a female reporter “sweetheart.”

    He sounded like a crybaby and a loser. The black information bubble immediately leaped to Cam’s defense, claiming Cam’s critique of the offensive strategy was accurate.

    The accuracy of his complaints is irrelevant. A quarterback is in partnership with his head coach and offensive coordinator. Their disagreements and criticisms should be handled internally and not referenced at a news conference by the QB.

    What does RG3 have to do with any of this?

    Well, informational bubbles are often uninformed. Along with being insecure and defensive, they can also be overly enthusiastic out of ignorance.

    RG3 is off to a very nice, promising start. But football is not basketball, a quarterback is not a small forward and RG3 is not LeBron James. You could see LeBron’s ability to dominate the NBA when he was a junior in high school. Within 10 games of his NBA career, you could tell James would own the league one day. Basketball is the 100-meter dash; the sprinter that gets out of the blocks quick has a huge advantage. Football is a marathon with multiple variables, especially for a QB.

    It’s way too early to anoint RG3. The information bubble has already decided the Colts made a mistake taking Andrew Luck ahead of Griffin. That’s ridiculous. We don’t know yet. There’s not nearly enough information. RG3 has the benefit of playing for a highly experienced head coach. Luck is playing for a new coaching staff that is dealing with the loss of its brand-new head coach.

    Furthermore, in reaction to fear of the black information bubble, the mainstream media seem intent on pitting RG3 vs. Newton. On Monday, rather than individually deal with Cam’s immature postgame news conference, ESPN spent the day comparing RG3’s postgame comments to Cam’s.

    Why?

    It wasn’t a conversation about their playing styles and ability to scramble and throw. It wasn’t a conversation about Cam and RG3 both winning the Heisman Trophy. It was a conversation about Cam’s lack of leadership as a second-year starting quarterback. RG3 has nothing to do with that. ESPN is afraid the information bubble will call ESPN racist for pointing out Cam is a poor leader so the Worldwide Leader protected itself by portraying RG3 as the ultimate leader. We don’t know if Griffin is a great leader. We won’t know until he deals with some real NFL adversity. I suspect he’ll handle adversity quite well. He might be the Ray Lewis of adversity (Ray might be the best leader in sports history). But we just don’t know yet.

    Compare Cam to Jay Cutler, Vince Young, Jeff George — talented QBs who struggled with leadership — or compare Cam to his second-year QB peers, Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert.

    But don’t drag Griffin into Cam’s problems. It’s not fair. It’s not right. It’s a consequence of the black information sports bubble.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...mation-bubble-hurts-black-quarterbacks-102312
     
  14. Quiet Speed

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    You beat me to it, Don. Some good points are made. Whitlock is wrong, however, in saying ESPN will not properly critique black QB's because of outside pressure. ESPN is one of the worldwide leaders of the "information bubble" he speaks of.
     
  15. Freethinker

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    Interesting take and a worthwhile read. Obviously, fairly elementary for us but could be revolutionary thinking for the average DWF.
     
  16. davidholly

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    Actually using RG3 spites him, see Griffin has a big unwarranted contract with Adidas whose logo meshes well with III. So RG3 prefers his name be spelled as "RGIII", by using RG3 we're going against his wishes. This is all a moot point though, I call Griffin RG3 for convenience not because I'm buying into any hype.
     
  17. Extra Point

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    I think a good way to counteract the Griffin hype is to refuse to use the initials at all. The use of the initials is not that much more convenient, you have to type two capital letters and a number (RG3) or 5 capital letters (RGIII).

    Why go along with the program even partway?
     
  18. jaxvid

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    Not a bad article but funny to me in an unintentional way. Whitlock supposes the information bubble that protects black players and then throws in the mother of all information bubbles: the ignoring of Ray Lewis as a murderer: "I suspect he’ll handle adversity quite well. He might be the Ray Lewis of adversity (Ray might be the best leader in sports history)."

    So Whitlock attempts to buy some cover for his slight criticism of black QB coverage by praising the not-guilty-by-virtue-of-being-a-black-sports-star Ray Lewis. Whose very existence in free society is a result of the information bubble negating the concept of the rule of law and common decency. Perhaps it's a subtle ironic comment?
     
  19. bearclaw500

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    Here is another example of the information bubble with black QB's. A mainstream sports writer documents and youtube's all the dropped passes thrown by RG III last week. I have never seen anything like this before. Does this guy not realize receivers drop balls from other quarterbacks as well? He makes sure to let us know that Russel Wilsons stats are also lower than they should be because of dropped balls as well.

    "It's usually easy to tell when an analyst is going off of a box score as opposed to watching a game. I remember reading and listening to several such people panning Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson after he completed just 9 of 23 passes for 122 yards, no touchdowns, and an interception in a Week 7 loss to the San Francisco 49ers. If you weren't watching the game, and you chose to go off the box score alone, your narrative was clear: A great NFL defense put a promising rookie quarterback in his place."

    "True to a degree, but what the box score didn't show were the five passes from Wilson that were outright dropped by his receivers, despite being on target. Wilson could have easily had four or five more completions for 100 yards and at least one touchdown had his receivers done their jobs. And the score of that 13-6 game could very well have been different."

    "However, when it comes to rookie quarterbacks with grievances against their receivers, Robert Griffin III of the Washington Redskins stands apart and alone after a Week 8 debacle against the Pittsburgh Steelers. In that 27-12 loss, depending on the source of your numbers, RG3's targets dropped anywhere from 9 to 12 passes that should have been caught. And as it was with Wilson, you heard a few "experts" telling you that the Steelers had finally given the NFL a blueprint to stop the explosive Griffin. If all you saw was the stat line -- 16 of 34 for 177 yards and a touchdown for a quarterback who had completed more than 70 percent of his passes before -- you might have thought the same thing

    "We counted nine examples against the Steelers in which Griffin's receivers did not make plays for him. And in many of those cases, the drops were embarrassing. Thanks to our friends at NFL.com, we can review each one and detail just how right on RG3 actually was against a Steelers defense determined to keep him bottled up and in the pocket.

    Yes, that's nine times in which RG3's receivers couldn't match up. NINE TIMES."

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
     
  20. davidholly

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    Many of those "drops" were caused by Steelers defenders batting them out of the hands of receivers. A couple more looked like Griffin threw screen passes with all his strength, that's not possible though because everyone knows that blacks have superb touch...
     
  21. Awake in America

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    If there's an end of the year "Worst of the Media" type thing on this board, I have to believe that blog would be a strong contender. RGIII's receivers dropped some passes!!! Oh, the humanity!!! More like 4 drops (one TD), 4 good defensive plays, and 1 awful throw, and I'm being generous.
     
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    This guy's little picture should be the icon for "DWF." [​IMG]
     
  23. Leonardfan

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    With the college season winding down and the draft process approaching it looks like the media is going to be pushing Geno Smith - who proved he is nothing more than a system QB and EJ Manuel who looks to be dumb as a box of rocks and does not have the meddle to handle pressure as starting QB.

    Tyler Wilson and Matt Barkley are getting constantly berated and torn down by the media and DWFs. Landry Jones - once thought of as a high first round pick does not seem to even be viewed as a draftable prospect now it seems. Collin Klein should be a 3rd round pick yet experts like Mel Jew Kiper believe he should not even be a QB at the next level even though he is the same type of player as Colin Kapernick who was a 2nd round pick.

    The QB position is getting darker and darker by year - its so frustrating seeing it.
     
  24. Tom Iron

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    Just want to make a few observations about the foremost black QB's in the NFL.

    Russel Wilson - I've never seen the guy, so I'll say the jury is still out on him, but as I keep saying, it's always just a matter of time before they do whatever it is they're going to do to louse themselves. The only unknown factor is just what it is they'll do.

    Michael Vick - Done, too old and injury prone.

    Cam Newton - Done, he just got fined for bumping an official.

    RGIII - Done, Already injury prone and he's only in his first year.

    Kapernick - Done, SF will be out of the playoffs very quickly. They dug themselves into a whole with this guy. They can't back out now.

    All others aren't worth entioning.

    Tom Iron...
    Josh Freeman, Done, Regressed over the past two years.
     
  25. Don Wassall

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    Tom, I don't know what you mean by "done." Does that mean out of the league? Wilson, Griffin and Newton I expect to be around for a number of years even if they have ups and downs, which Newton has already experienced. Vick will likely get one more chance to start somewhere but he's headed for backup status by '14. Unless Tampa drafts a quarterback early, Freeman will be starting next season again. Who knows with Kaepernick, but I suspect because of his "tremendous upside" he'll be given years to start even if he flops big-time in the playoffs this season.
     

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