Black flops

Discussion in 'Soccer' started by Alkene, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. Matra2

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    Africans and football in the news:

    West Ham United have suspended their director of player recruitment, Tony Henry, after he left them open to accusations of racism and potentially unlawful discrimination by telling agents in the transfer window that they don't want to sign any more African players.

    After being confronted by Sportsmail, Henry made the shocking admission that West Ham do indeed want to limit the number of African players because 'they have a bad attitude' and 'cause mayhem' when they are not in the team.

    Noticing things is bad these days.

    Asked why, Henry replied: 'Erm, no reason. It's nothing racist at all. It's just sometimes they can have a bad attitude.

    'We had problems with Sakho, with Diafra Sakho. We find that when they are not in the team they cause mayhem. It's nothing against the African race at all.

    'I mean, look, there are top African players. There's not a problem with them. It's just sometimes they cause a lot of problems when they are not playing, as we had with Diafra. He's left, so great. It's nothing personal at all.'

    Yet everything seems personal to Africans. Arabs too.

    'But the likes of Sakho have caused mayhem. When he's not playing … he always wants a new deal. That's all it was. It was nothing discriminatory at all.

    'I could say we get offered Russian players. I just find with Russian players that they don't settle in England.

    'It's like Italians. How many Italians come and settle in England? As a club we are not discriminatory at all.

    'If you've got too many, they all sit together and it becomes a situation where you can have problems.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...m-director-sparks-race-row-African-stars.html


    Of course, it was pretty stupid of Henry go public on this but no one ever said football people are smart. Not only is it amazing how so many whites don't notice race differences but it is just as amazing, maybe more so, how many people don't notice how PC society has become then say things that are bound to get themselves in trouble. They must live in a bubble.
     
  2. Freethinker

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    Nice summary.

    We used to have a French poster on here who would refer to these black players as “bodyguards” as their only impressive attributes were size and physique. He often opined that these players lacked proper touch, creativity, intelligence, positioning, etc like you are also claiming. It seems like years later nothing has changed. The Caste System in France overvalues black players at the expense of Whites and the idiot clubs reward them by overpaying for marginal talents.
     
  3. Novice

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    Everton has had pretty disastrous signings this season. €85 million has been flushed down the toilet on 3 blacks, and the club sit in 11th place.

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    24 year-old Nigerian winger Alex Iwobi was signed for a crazy €30m from Arsenal after 3 rather mediocre seasons at the club. In 29 appearances for Everton, Iwobi has 2 goals and 1 assist.

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    Also signed was 19 year-old striker Moise Kean from Juventus for €27m. He has scored only 1 goal in 32 appearances for the club. He's unsurprisingly got a **** attitude, too

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    Ivorian Defensive midfielder Gbamin was signed for €25 million. He's made of glass and has not played since August.
     
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    Arsenal have been pretty disgusting this season. They have given playing time in the Premier League to 5 players from their youth team, and every single one of them is black. The club are currently sitting in 10th place, and the idea that Arsenal can compete at the highest with these crap players is crazy. It's possible that Arsenal are just advertising these players so that some mid-table club comes along and bids 20 million pounds on them.

    Edward Nketiah - he's a 21 year old striker. He was an loan at Leeds United in the Championship during the first half of this season and could not get playing time. It's safe to say that he's not good enough.

    Reiss Nelson - 20-year old winger. He was on loan in German club Hoffenheim in 2018-19 and started only 5 matches. He has started only 7 matches for Arsenal this season. He hasn't showed anything notable yet.

    Bukayo Saka - 18 year old wide player, has played as either a left-back or left-winger. This player did make 37 appearances so far this season, so far he is looking impressive.

    Joe Willock - 20 year-old defensive midfielder who has started 7 league games this season, and has not threatened anyone's spot in the lineup. His development is far below of Arsenal's Arab midfielder Guendouzi, who's now 21 and has started 19 league games this season.

    Ainsley Maitland-Niles - 22 year-old right-back, serves as a back-up to Hector Bellerin. While Bellerin is only 2 years older than Maitland-Niles, Bellerin has made 100 more league appearances. I don't think Arsenal see Maitland-Niles as a viable, long-term starting right-back.
     
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    Tanguy Ndombele with Tottenham and Tiemoue Bakayoko with Chelsea - two absolutely disastrous central midfield signings in the Premier League.

    Bakayoko was signed at age 22 in 2017 for €40M. After one season in Chelsea, he has been on loan in the past two seasons in two different clubs, AC Milan and Monaco

    He fails at even the most basic control of the ball at his feet



    Ndombele was signed in 2019 at age 22 for a shocking €60M. He has started only 12 league matches for the club and has quickly fallen out of favor.
     
  6. Novice

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    France center back Mangala made a €40M move to Manchester City at age 23. He was not an especially noteworthy player before his move, having spent 2 seasons in Belgium and 2 seasons with FC Porto.

    He played only two seasons with Man City in 2014-15 and 15-16, and had a disastrous time there.

    He spent 16-17 on loan in Valencia and 17-18 on loan in Everton. He finally made a free transfer to Valencia in August 2019.

    Mangala has made 9 appearances this season. And Valencia have a record of 1 win, 2 draws, 6 losses with Mangala in the lineup this season, with 19 goals conceded.
     
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    In Bayern, Kinglsey Coman has replaced Franck Ribery, having arrived at the club in 2015. While Ribery helped Bayern reach Champions League finals in 2010, 2011 and 2013, the club have not been impressive in recent seasons. Bayern were eliminated in the round of 16 in the last two seasons. The biggest reason for the end of Bayern's golden period has been the departure of Ribery and Robben and the failure to replace them with talents of equal quality.

    When Ribery was at the peak of his powers up until 2014-15, he was regularly averaging a goal or assist in every league match. Coman, however, had only 4 goals and 3 assists in the Bundesliga this season. And had 6 goals and 4 assists the previous season. This player is simply not good enough to play at the highest level.


     
  8. Novice

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    One characteristic about black players is that they don't tend to age gracefully. Typically, they seem impressive in the formative years of a footballer 18-21 years old. But they quickly plateau and fail to progress.

    Balotelli will be a classic example: up-and-coming teenager at a then dominant Inter side during the late 2000s. His career peaked during Euro 2012 when he was only 21, and has declined steadily since then. He last appeared for Italy during the 2014 World Cup.

    Gael Kakuta, winger from France, was signed by Chelsea as a teenager and was supposed to be an exciting player. Still only 29, he has now been on 12 different clubs across 6 different countries.

    Daniel Sturridge was playing regularly for Chelsea and Liverpool between 2011-2014. But at the age of 28, unwanted, he left on loan to West Brom in 17-18. He then made a transfer to Turkey at age 29 in 2019.

    Mamadou Sakho made a move to Liverpool in 2013 at age 23 after starting for several seasons in the French capital. At age 27, he then made a move to mediocre Crystal Palace in 2017 that often flirts with relegation.
     
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    Great posts Novice!

    Here at CF, we were the first ones to predict Balotelli’s demise. His deficiencies were glaring, but the caste media so badly wanted him to succeed, that they ignored them. They did so that Italy would have a diverse star which could be used to usher in multiracial teams going forward.

    Sakho was one of the least coordinated footballers I’ve ever seen. Terrible first touch and a clumsy tackler. I remember a former poster would refer to him and similar “talents” as “bodyguard”. On the field for the physical presence, not their skill.
     
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    Article about players that Tottenham needs to ditch:

    https://www.football365.com/news/five-players-tottenham-sell-ndombele-aurier-sissoko

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    Serge Aurier
    There are just too many mistakes. It would be wrong to pretend there are no positive qualities to the Ivorian’s play but… there are just too many mistakes. It can’t work in a Jose Mourinho team and it certainly can’t work in this Tottenham team that so often makes scoring goals look such very, very hard work while conceding daft ones. If Aurier remains Tottenham’s first-choice right-back next season then something has gone badly awry.

    Tanguy Ndombele
    It’s not working out, is it? There’s clearly a fearsomely talented footballer somewhere inside that ever-growing frame but it seems unlikely Mourinho is the man to find it, nor that English football is the place to do so. That’s a great shame; Tottenham don’t have the luxury of keeping such a valuable asset on the sidelines. Ndombele would still fetch a pretty penny – he positively screams PSG – which Tottenham can reinvest in players who can run and that the manager doesn’t feel the need to publicly scold every 45 minutes.

    Moussa Sissoko
    Has been far from the disaster his first season suggested but it’s time to move on. Sissoko is simply too limited a footballer to be playing central midfield in a team with Tottenham’s ambitions. His unlikely partnership with Harry Winks has sort of kind of worked on occasion, but it’s clearly not a combination that is going to lead Tottenham back to where they want to be.

    Gedson Fernandes
    He’s only on loan, but there’s a whole year left of it and truly what is the point? His three substitute appearances during Project Restart produced 22 minutes of football in total, and he didn’t even make the 20-man squad for the final game of the season against Palace.
     
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    Defensive midfielder Renato Sanches was a disastrously bad signing for Bayern, signed at the age of 18 in 2016 for €35M from Benfica. He ended up starting only 10 matches for Bayern, was unwanted on loan to Swansea, and sold to Lille in 2019. He started for Portugal in Euro 2016, but then was playing for Portugal's under-21 side in the under-21 championship in 2017, this is a strange trajectory.

     
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    Manchester City spent a massive 58 million euros on left-back Benjamin Mendy, which has turned out to be a poor signing. In his 3 seasons at the club, Mendy has started only 32 matches, often missing out due to injury. It appears that he's fallen out of favor to the Portuguese Joao Cancelo, who has started City's 3 most recent games at left-back. City don't have stability at left-back, having used 4 separate players in that position this season, which speaks volumes about how poor of a signing Mendy has been.

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    Samuel Umtiti was signed by Barca at age 22 in 2016. He spent the next two seasons playing regularly. Yet, since 2018, he has practically disappeared due to injury and also competition from superior French defender Clement Lenglet. Now, he's being pushed out of the club.

     
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    Michy Batshuayi is a professional footballer simply because he's big and black.

    He signed with Chelsea for €39M in 2016 and since then, he has made a total of 5 Premier League starts for Chelsea and had loan moves to three different clubs


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