A Look at the '09-'10 NBA by the Numbers

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Larry Brown is always considered a great coach but I don't think he is.  For whatever reason the bruvas never seem to get along with him and he ends up screwing every team he coaches for.  He created an absolute mess with the Knicks.
 

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ToughJ.Riggins said:
j41181 said:
You said it best, TJR!

I'm for NBA diversity, but their claim for diversity is one big joke. There should be more games like this Toronto-Orlando match-up, and more teams like these two.

Exactly J41181! I would never want to keep black Americans out of playing a sport professionally that they love so much if they are there on merits. The U.S is 13% black. With black interest slightly surpassing white interest on average and elite black players having slightly longer arms on average and probably a "slight" X-Z agility advantage (I believe whites have a slight X-Y agility advantage) we could expect the NBA to certainly be more than 13% black. This is especially so, with the league wanting to diversify it's playing style. But a 77% black league is disturbingly wrong. There are so many white college players and white Euros I have watched play- that are systematically blacklisted from NBA rosters for inferior blacks.

I want true diversity and that means a few more Asians and Mestizos as well, even though they tend to be a little shorter! So how am I a racist for wanting a league that bases it's employment on merit, especially since it will bring more "diversity"?
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My ideal NBA landscape:

50-55% Black
30-35% White (20% American, 15% International)
10% Asian
10% Latino/Mestizo

I think TJR can put it better than me.
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
Judging by the way Morrison played in college he could be a 20 ppg player in the league for years. It was an exciting season when Morrison and Redick were the top scorers in the NCAA that year.

Morrison had a bad knee injury in his second season, just after his game was starting to click at the NBA level. This was a major set back and he is on a deep defending championship team with lots of scorers (both shooters and penetrators). They already have a knockdown perimeter shooter in Sasha Vujacic who is a better defender. If LA was being fair to Morrison he'd be a an 7th or 8th man at best on this team right now- and further down the depth chart once Gasol returns and bumps forward Odom back to the bench.

Redick on the other hand, was shut out of playing time simply for being white for nobodies like Keith Bogans and Keyon Dooling (what a joke) until towards the end of last season. Now that he has actually been allowed to play- he is progressively starting to show an offensive game similar to Michael Redd's. And yeah, I forgot to mention, I think he's already surpassed Michael Redd as a defender!Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
 

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j41181 said:
ToughJ.Riggins said:
j41181 said:
You said it best, TJR!

I'm for NBA diversity, but their claim for diversity is one big joke. There should be more games like this Toronto-Orlando match-up, and more teams like these two.

Exactly J41181! I would never want to keep black Americans out of playing a sport professionally that they love so much if they are there on merits. The U.S is 13% black. With black interest slightly surpassing white interest on average and elite black players having slightly longer arms on average and probably a "slight" X-Z agility advantage (I believe whites have a slight X-Y agility advantage) we could expect the NBA to certainly be more than 13% black. This is especially so, with the league wanting to diversify it's playing style. But a 77% black league is disturbingly wrong. There are so many white college players and white Euros I have watched play- that are systematically blacklisted from NBA rosters for inferior blacks.

I want true diversity and that means a few more Asians and Mestizos as well, even though they tend to be a little shorter! So how am I a racist for wanting a league that bases it's employment on merit, especially since it will bring more "diversity"?
smiley5.gif
My ideal NBA landscape:

50-55% Black
30-35% White (20% American, 15% International)
10% Asian
10% Latino/Mestizo

I think TJR can put it better than me.


Personally I think you're putting the black numbers a little too high (especially with all the Euro interest): Blacks are damn good at basketball and are very interested in it culturally, but this would be what I think is a fair range:

45-60% white
30-40% black
12-18% Asian/Amero-Indian or Mestizo Hispanic/Middle Eastern/Aboriginal/other

Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
 

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ToughJ.Riggins said:
j41181 said:
ToughJ.Riggins said:
j41181 said:
You said it best, TJR!

I'm for NBA diversity, but their claim for diversity is one big joke. There should be more games like this Toronto-Orlando match-up, and more teams like these two.

Exactly J41181! I would never want to keep black Americans out of playing a sport professionally that they love so much if they are there on merits. The U.S is 13% black. With black interest slightly surpassing white interest on average and elite black players having slightly longer arms on average and probably a "slight" X-Z agility advantage (I believe whites have a slight X-Y agility advantage) we could expect the NBA to certainly be more than 13% black. This is especially so, with the league wanting to diversify it's playing style. But a 77% black league is disturbingly wrong. There are so many white college players and white Euros I have watched play- that are systematically blacklisted from NBA rosters for inferior blacks.

I want true diversity and that means a few more Asians and Mestizos as well, even though they tend to be a little shorter! So how am I a racist for wanting a league that bases it's employment on merit, especially since it will bring more "diversity"?
smiley5.gif
My ideal NBA landscape:

50-55% Black
30-35% White (20% American, 15% International)
10% Asian
10% Latino/Mestizo

I think TJR can put it better than me.


Personally I think you're putting the black numbers a little too high (especially with all the Euro interest): Blacks are damn good at basketball and are very interested in it culturally, but this would be what I think is a fair range:

45-60% white
30-40% black
10-15% Asian/Amero-Indian or Mestizo Hispanic/Middle Eastern/Aboriginal/other
Either is fair, but to David Stern this is his ideal stat:

77% Black
22% White
1% Asian/Latino/Whatever

Diversity my butt!
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As far as the NFL, I think if anything, elite whites have an advantage at most positions. Positions like HB and WR are basically race neutral. The top blacks "probably" have a "small" edge at FS- and I would say for sure CB (where X-Z agility and closing top end speed are most crucial).

Still, even at CB, with such a large pool of white players out there- some of whom can pass the scouts test of "preferred" speed (sub 4.6 or better "for blacks"- usually sub 4.55, but there are many exceptions made for "productive brotha" CBs) and whites who can swivel (McGuffie, Woodhead and Welker are examples of VERY ELITE X-Z agility) CB should still be almost half white in the NFL. The NFL is an even more racist POS league than the NBA. There is very little racial "personal interest gap" in football either.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
 

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j41181 said:
ToughJ.Riggins said:
j41181 said:
ToughJ.Riggins said:
j41181 said:
You said it best, TJR!

I'm for NBA diversity, but their claim for diversity is one big joke. There should be more games like this Toronto-Orlando match-up, and more teams like these two.

Exactly J41181! I would never want to keep black Americans out of playing a sport professionally that they love so much if they are there on merits. The U.S is 13% black. With black interest slightly surpassing white interest on average and elite black players having slightly longer arms on average and probably a "slight" X-Z agility advantage (I believe whites have a slight X-Y agility advantage) we could expect the NBA to certainly be more than 13% black. This is especially so, with the league wanting to diversify it's playing style. But a 77% black league is disturbingly wrong. There are so many white college players and white Euros I have watched play- that are systematically blacklisted from NBA rosters for inferior blacks.

I want true diversity and that means a few more Asians and Mestizos as well, even though they tend to be a little shorter! So how am I a racist for wanting a league that bases it's employment on merit, especially since it will bring more "diversity"?
smiley5.gif
My ideal NBA landscape:

50-55% Black
30-35% White (20% American, 15% International)
10% Asian
10% Latino/Mestizo

I think TJR can put it better than me.


Personally I think you're putting the black numbers a little too high (especially with all the Euro interest): Blacks are damn good at basketball and are very interested in it culturally, but this would be what I think is a fair range:

45-60% white
30-40% black
10-15% Asian/Amero-Indian or Mestizo Hispanic/Middle Eastern/Aboriginal/other
Either is fair, but to David Stern this is his ideal stat:

77% Black
22% White
1% Asian/Latino/Whatever

Diversity my butt!
smiley55.gif

Exactly...Putting an "exact" number on what the racial dynamics of the league should look like is difficult. However, we can all agree the current NBA is racist against whites. I don't think a 50% white NBA would be "racist" against whites.

As far as football scouting, I have watched lots of H.S players film, compared highlights, measurables etc. and even some intangibles of players- and watched lots of college players as well. The NFL should be very similar racially to the racial dynamics of the United States. The NFL should be about 65-80% white overall (with kickers included). "At least" 70% of the H.S football players in the United States are "majority" Caucasian ethnically. If you call a half black man black- for caste purposes- even with some H.S coaches biased decisions, I would say "certainly" no more than 30% of players tops- starting for U.S H.S football teams are black. With all the white rural areas in the country- and occasional "ghetto" areas without H.S football teams- the black number is almost certainly lower than my "cautious" statement.
 
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