2020 NFL Draft

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  1. Leonardfan

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    College football is here. I have gone through a few different sites and the Senior Bowl watch list to compile players to keep an eye out on. Right now the list only consists of seniors.


    2020 NFL Draft

    QB
    Justin Herbert Oregon
    Joe Burrow LSU
    Jake Bentley S Car
    Nathan Stanley Iowa
    Brian Lewerke Mich St
    Shea Patterson Mich
    Ian Book Notre Dame
    James Morgan FIU
    Riley Neal Vanderbilt
    Stephen Calvert Liberty
    Nathan Rourke Ohio
    Tommy Stevens Miss St
    Blake Barnett USF


    RB/FB
    Cade Carney Wake Forest
    Billy McCrary Abilene Christian
    Otto Zaccardo Syracuse



    WR
    Chris Finke Notre Dame
    Sal Canella Auburn
    Ben Skoworonek Northwestern
    Dalton Schoen KSU


    TE
    Harrison Bryant FAU
    Mithcell Wilcox USF
    Jacob Breeland Oregon
    Jared Rice Fresno ST
    Joey Magnifico Memphis
    Charlie Woerner UGA
    Sean McKeon Michigan
    Luke Farrell Ohio St



    OT
    Trey Adams Washington
    Calvin Throckmorton Oregon
    Liam Eichenberg Notre Dame
    Jon Runyan Michigan
    Jack Driscoll Auburn
    Scott Frantz Kansas St
    Blake Brandel Oregon St
    Colton McKivitz WVU
    Matt Womack Alabama
    Cole Chewins Mich State


    OG
    Tommy Kraemer Notre Dame
    Ben Bredeson Michigan
    Shane Lemiux Oregon
    Sean Pollard Clemson
    Logan Stenberg Kentucky
    Gage Cervenka Clemson
    Austin Kapps Arkansas

    C
    Jake Hanson Oregon
    Zach Shackelford Texas



    DT
    Eli Hanback UVA
    Mike Panasiuk Michigan St
    Robert Windsor Penn St
    Aaron Blackwell New Mexico
    Garrett Marino UAB

    DE
    Kenny Willekes Michigan St
    Carter Coughlin Minnesota
    Joe Gaziano Northwestern
    Scott Patchan Miami
    Bryce Sterk Montana St

    LB
    Joe Bachie Michigan St
    Evan Weaver Cal
    Logan Wilson Wyoming
    Cale Garret Missouri
    Jordan Fehr App St
    Dante Olson Montana
    Christian Rozeboom South Dakota St
    Kash Daniel Kentucky
    Clay Johnston Baylor




    S
    Tanner Muse Clemson
    Ben DeLuca Charlotte
    Jeremy Fejedelem Air Force
    Josh Sandry Montana
     
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  2. Leonardfan

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    After next week's games I will go through and start making some adjustments and adding/dropping players.

    So far the play of QB Justin Herbert has been great - he just needs to stay consistent for the whole season - great player with huge potential.

    Joe Burrow has taken it to another level - the best QB in the SEC and well on his way to 1st round status. I feel Tagilovoa is more of a game manager but isn't labeled that because he isn't white. It sounds as if Fromm will stay in school at this point - not a bad move as he can be QB1 in 2021.
     
  3. Chad

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    Thanks Leonardfan!

    I checked out the latest 2020 mock NFL draft, just randomly chosen. CBS Sports had one updated about 5 hours ago. It looks like Oregan's Justin Herbert has supplaneted Tua Polynesian as the number 1 overall & number 1 QB. Don't know much about Herbert, but I'll link some highlights I can find.

    ]2020 NFL Mock Draft: Justin Herbert replaces Tua as No. 1 pick

    This was Justin Herbert's highest rated QBR game from last year defeated Cal 42-24. It's not east finding highlights that don't contain some over edited rap hip hop music, so I found this one. I think I found this one though. :)


    Justin Herbert Full Coverage Oregon vs Cal || 9.29.18 |


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  4. Red raider

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    That’s nice to see but I wouldn’t trust CBS draft rankings, they’re usually HORRIBLE. I remember last draft they didn’t even have Maxx Crosby ranked prior to the draft and they had every white receiver with a 7th round or later grade. I really don’t trust anyone when it comes to draft prospects except for the guys here and maybe a few of the people on TV. However, most of them just go with whoever’s popular to uphold their ratings and seem like they’re in. Most of us here know who’s talented and who’s not.
     
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    At the moment I see four QBs that all could end up in the top ten of the draft if everything falls into place. There could be six or seven chosen in the first round alone with at least three of them being non white.

    To me there is no clear number one but so far I would say the top three in no particular order are Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow and Shea Patterson. I am higher on Patterson than most "draft gurus." He has a big test this Saturday against Wisconsin in a big noon matchup.
     
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    Will Trevor Lawrence be eligible in the 2020 draft? Would he have a chance of being the top pick if he is?
     
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    Lawrence will not be eligible for the draft until 2021. He is cited in most quarters as the number one pick and would likely be the number one pick for 2020 if he was eligible.
     
  8. Leonardfan

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    I like Patterson as well - I believe he had an oblique injury which he should be recovered from. I think Michigan must win this game to keep Haurbaugh off the hot seat. No one is mentioning how Oklahoma almost lost to Army last year but made a huge deal about it when Michigan barely beat them.

    His highlights from Ole Miss show a much more wide open/spread offense - his athleticism, arm strength and accuracy are all very good. In the Michigan highlights you can see some of the differences in the offense that is run - more traditional - less shotgun. Why Patterson is not being appreciated more is beyond me by the draft media weenies.

    Ole Miss:


    Michigan
     
  9. Extra Point

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    I've noticed that there are fewer and fewer sites on the internet covering the draft. They seem to be disappearing. Every year there seems to be fewer. Also there may be sites that are filtered out.
     
  10. Leonardfan

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    The draft coverage is changing for sure. The web "1.0" has been replaced by the web "2.0" Alot of the "experts" are now spewing their opinions on social media. Forums (like this one) are not as popular as they once were. There are some newer sites and mainstays that do have their own rankings and commentary. Other sites are now offering more content behind paywalls. They are all pretty much the same though in terms opinions - the underlying theme of pushing the caste system remains.
     
  11. Leonardfan

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    Just reviewing the Pro Football Focus mid season All American list and here are some seniors that made the list:

    TE Jacob Breeland was first team - he unfortunately is out for the rest of the season with a knee injury. Might be healthy by OTAs/training camp if a team decides to draft him.

    LB Cale Garrett is done for the year with a pectoral injury. He was graded as a mid season all american by Pro Football Focus. Hopefully he recovers from his injury in time for the senior bowl/combine. Could be a draft season riser.

    S Tanner Muse listed as 2nd team

    DT Garret Marino , LB Jan Johnson - listed as Honorable mention.
     
  12. Leonardfan

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    Anti-white QB propoganda draft machine is starting up. Herbert has no warts if you ask me. The receiver position has been plagued with injuries and it has not impacted his production. Eason I think should stay for another year. He has all the tools just needs more experience:

    Speaking with Bleacher Report's Matt Miller, an NFL scout said that Oregon senior QB Justin Herbert will "get someone fired."
    "I've never understood the love with this kid," the evaluator said, later adding that Herbert "doesn't have it." An area scout echoed those concerns, telling Miller that the 6-foot-6, 233-pound senior "lacks a killer mentality." While we understand the question marks with Herbert -- he has underwhelmed at times -- it's fair to note that the physically-gifted signal-caller is in the midst of a strong season on the whole, having thrown for 1,602 yards (69.1% completions) with a 17/1 TD/INT ratio in six games. Herbert remains a very good bet to land in the first round, with upward stock mobility which could push him as high as a top-five selection should a pro squad fall in love with him during the spring evaluating process.


    An NFL scout who spoke with Bleacher Report's Matt Miller said that he "[doesn't] think [he] love [Washington redshirt junior QB Jacob Eason's] mental makeup."
    "People got too high on him when they weren't playing anyone, but he's really come back down to Earth," the evaluator said to Miller. Elaborating further on the 6-foot-6, 227-pound Eason's mental makeup, another scout told Miller that "[h]e's just not very mature and doesn't handle the little things well that you want at the position," going so far as to suggest that a return to school wouldn't be the worst thing for Eason this winter. The redshirt junior has thrown just three touchdown passes over his last three games. All of this said, Eason has arguably the strongest arm in the FBS, and we've seen the NFL wooed over by big arms before.
     
  13. Bucky

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    I never get sick of saying I hate Matt Miller.
     
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    Yeah, I'll never forget his scouting report that said Luke Kuechly was a third rounder, on his good days. Laughable.
     
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    In the next few weeks the Senior Bowl should start announcing invitees. This is hard draft to read - my feeling is that it will be similar to the notoriously anti-white 2015 draft which produced a ton of black busts and happened to be the blackest draft on record. Once the Senior Bowl invites start trickling out a clearer picture will emerge and then their will be those players who decided to forgo their final season of eligibility and put their name into the hat.

    Probably the best news I have right now is that Herbert and Burrow are both doing very well and their stocks are rising. I was Herbert last week and came away very impressed. Hopefully both Burrow and Herbert end up in solid situations (unlike Mayfield and Darnold who are suffering due to issues within the organization and the lack of talent on the football field). I watched Eason vs. Utah and he needs another season - I hope he decides to stay and work on his game for one more year.
     
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    The first 81 invites have gone out for the Senior Bowl.

    So far these are the white players accepting invites:
    LB Evan Weaver Cal
    LB Carter Coughlin Minnesota
    OL Ben Bartch St. John's (D-3 I believe) - perhaps another Ali Marpet?
    TE Harrison Bryant FAU - he fits the prototype of the TEs currently dominating the NFL

    Out of the first 20 names releases only the above 4 are white.
     
  17. Bucky

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    Nice list and it's impressive Bartch is gathering interest as a D3 OL. Both the LBs are Studs and if Bryant played at a bigger school he'd be a household name.
     
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    A few more names trickling in for Senior Bowl invites:

    OT Colton McKivitz WVU
    OG Logan Stenberg Kentucky
    TE Adam Trautman Dayton
     
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    55 confirmed Senior Bowl invites out of the first 81 invitations sent out - only 8 are white players.
     
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    WR Mason Kinsey from NAIA Berry College invited to the East West Shrine game. Here is a link to his profile:

    https://www.berryvikings.com/sports/fball/2017-18/bios/kinsey_mason_b4y1

    More shrine game invites have been announced. I'll try to sort through them today. The Shrine Game is the "2nd tier" post season game serving as spring board for draft prospects.
     
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    Cincinnati TE Josiah Deguara will be at the senior bowl. I’ve been very high on him since the first time I saw him play last year. Former big time wide receiver in high school. He’s a smaller TE with a playing style like Aaron Hernandez when he was with the Patriots. Expect him to run a fast 40 time at the combine.
     
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    Great news! Perhaps some Kelce comparisons will get thrown his way (another Cincinatti product). Looks like he also got a Shrine Game invite. Going to post the shrine game invitees soon.
     
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    East West Shrine Game Invites so far:

    QB - Kevin Davidson Princeton
    QB - James Morgan FIU
    QB - Tommy Stevens Miss St

    WR - Mason Kinsey Berry
    WR - Chris Finke Notre Dame

    TE - Mitchell Wilcox USF
    TE - Giovanni Ricci WMU
    TE - Parker Houston SDSU

    OT - Jake Benziner Wake Forest
    OT - Jack Driscoll Auburn
    OT - Alex Givens Ole Miss
    OT - Charlie Heck UNC
    OC - Luke Juriga WMU
    OT - Evin Ksiezarzyk Buffalo
    OG - John Phillips Boston College
    OG - Sean Pollard Clemson
    OC - Zach Shackelford Texas
    OG - Simon Stepaniak Indiana

    DE - Joe Gaziano Northwestern
    DT - Garrett Marino UAB
    DE - Bryce Sterk Montana St
    DE - Derrek Tuszka North Dakota St

    LB - Dante Olson Montana

    FS - Austin Lee BYU
     
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  24. Leonardfan

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    Penn St DT Robert Windsor with a Senior Bowl Invite (12 out 70 announced invitees so far are white)

    Notre Dame WR Chris Finke with an East West Shrine Game invite - Shrine Game might hold a little intrigue this year for prospects.

    The initial rosters for both should pan out in a couple of weeks once all the affletic underclassmen declare and dilute the "talent" pool even further.
     
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    Made some updates to the Shrine Game list.

    Another QB note - Jacob Eason needs to stay in Washington for his senior year and put it all together - he is not ready to declare yet.
     

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