2019 NFL Week 14

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  1. Quiet Speed

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    I thought with the way the Eagles' offense looked in the first half, there was no way the could manage a couple of TDs to comeback. Way to go Ertz.
     
  2. La France Blanche

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    Ertz is right up there with Kittle and Kelce as the true elite of TEs right now. The locker room malcontents on the Eagles whining that Ertz catches too many passes need a hard dressing down from the coaching staff about not being team players.
     
  3. PHillisFan

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    Wentz and Ertz are keeping the Eagles head above water. I wonder what Kellerman, Wentz biggest critic in the media is going to say about his performance?
     
  4. CrazyFinn

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    Yes, can’t be long now before Josina Anderson reports that according to anonymous sources inside the Eagles locker room, there’s some concern that once again, Carson Wentz is targeting Ertz and Goedert way too much.
     
  5. Westside

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    If that is happening, the coaching staff should tell them to knock it off or else, practice squad players will take their place. By tonight's practice players' performance that should be a real threat.
     
  6. Truthteller

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    Realizing it might have been Eli's last NFL game, I decided to tune into the Giants last night during the second quarter. Then I saw their ultra-Caste roster, coupled with an Eagles team that was just as black, so I tuned out after about 3 minutes. Did not tune in until overtime began to watch/root for Wentz and Ertz. Glad that combo scored.

    A lot of fans (Giants and general NFL fans) might be getting "nostalgic" about watching Eli play, but I've basically completely tuned out the Giants every week since 2004? So what is their to get "nostalgic" about? I've rarely watched his team play since the Sehorn/Dan Reeves years. The few times each year I tuned into a Giants game was to root for the other team. In Eli's 16 years, only time I cared about the Giants was when Peyton Hillis briefly played for them in 2013, then a bit in 2014. During Eli's entire career have the Giants even had one notable white defensive player or wide receiver? Best white defender I can think of is Chase Blackburn and he was mostly a spot starter and special teams mascot for several years? They had a talented, white rookie linebacker this season from Wisconsin that I tracked, but he suffered a ACL injury.

    I was not sure if Eli ever had a completion to a white wide receiver?

    I looked it up and Brandon Stokley had 1 reception for 7 yards for the Giants in 2011, I guess that might've been the only one in 16 years? In 2015, an undrafted white rookie from Richmond named Ben Edwards made his debut with the Giants and caught 1 ball for 9 yards, but that spiral came from his backup that night (Nassib) I believe? In 2017 the Giants had another undrafted goy at receiver named Ed Eagan, he played in 4 games, but only returned 4 punts and covered kicks.

    Not blaming Eli for the lack of white receivers, that's on the front office's. Just saying I barely ever watched him (or his team) the last 16 years. So to me, it's almost like he barely existed in comparison to someone like Brady who I've watched play full games (or close to full) well over 100 times? Or even his brother Peyton, who teams (Colts, Broncos) seemed much less hostile to whites than the Giants.

    The Giants owners love to brag about the waiting lists for seasons tickets. But even if they are sold, I love to see legions of "fans" at Giants games disguised as "empty seats". Perhaps if this organization wasn't so darn Caste, they might not see their fan base dwindling to the point people won't even show up with free tickets, that are doled out by corporations. By the way, for all the talk that the Giants season-tickets waiting list is decades long, how do they explain the Victor Cruz meets DWF's Commercial?


    P.S: I wanted to post this in this year's "Giants Thread", until I realized there is none here at CF. Quite fitting.
     
  7. white lightning

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    Other than Jason Sehorn and a few quarterbacks, the only other Giants player I rooted for consistantly was Jeremy Shockey. He had that attitude about him and nobody messed with him. He was so athletic and so strong. He was alot like another tightend from the past in Mark Bavarro. Anyways, Shockey and Sehorn are my two favorite Giants that I've watched. Mostly I don't watch them like the rest of us here. Why bother to watch a crappy team decade after decade and they don't play our guys. No thanks. Better things to do with my time.
     
  8. PHillisFan

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    I always thought Kevin Boss was an underrated player for the Giants. His career went south after he left the Giants and eventually retired.
     
  9. Truthteller

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    Nice replies, WL and PHFan. When Lightning was going through the names of some the players from the era prior to Eli arriving in 2004, I instantly thought about Joe Jurevicius, who Eli never played with.

    Anyhow, I just did a quick search to check the spelling of Joe's not so easy to spell Lithuanian surname. I expected to find just football related links. However, most of the links were for a horrific incident last year that Joe thankfully survived. He was robbed at gun-point and terrorized for 30 minutes at his own house by a "misunderstood" 24 year old Yuff, looking to make a quick buck?

    Hat's off to Joe, for not being a total Cuck. Here's the video of Joe going through all the negative issues he's dealt with since he retired and asking the Cleveland judge for the harshest sentence possible. In the link posted, the Yuff goes crazy after getting 43 years and chaos breaks out. Interesting to note, while Joe is talking, the Yuff's very obese black lawyer can clearly be seen sleeping. Hope Joe and his family are doing better. He's had a lot bad breaks in his life since he left the Giants.

    PHFan: Fascinating note on Boss. While he was still playing with the Giants, his brother was a backup goalie for the New York Red Bulls (MLS). The Boss' were from rural Oregon, yet both were pros playing in the same city and same stadium briefly, in different sports. Turns out Terry Boss' pro career was destroyed by injuries.
     
  10. Extra Point

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    You'd think a story like this would be reported by the sports media. They're always looking for material.

    I guess when the story involves a black "youth" and a white man they won't report it. It would make black males look bad and that doesn't fit the agenda.
     
  11. BeyondFedUp

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    That video is priceless. Total freakout from the perp and the "family" in the audience even with them knowing he had prior convictions for armed robbery and served time already. The comments section on YT had me laughing. It's a good thing for him people like me don't run the prison system. His lawyer would be calling for the priest.
     
  12. dwid

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    I watched that video on YouTube and the perception amongst dwfs is that Edelman is only "schemed" open and only goes against safeties and linebackers. It's amazing no other team can scheme people open like that except the Patriots and even the Patriots can't seem to do that with any other receivers besides him this year. Not to mention he's been double teamed this year and goes against the team's number 1 corner and still puts up numbers. On NFL films top 100 players multiple corners said he was the hardest person to cover. Since he has become a starter in 2013 he's averaged enough for 1000 yards each season, he just happened to miss games a few years. Guys like Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne who dominated in the regular season have less postseason yardage than him in MORE games. Edelman has 18 postseason games but 5 of them he was sparingly used. Yet dwfs will laugh at you if you compare him to those 2.
     
  13. Don Wassall

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    Here's a few tidbits on the New England offense from a fantasy football writer who studies a lot of film. Belichick has moved too far away from a proven winning formula by adding too many upsiders who can't adjust to what Brady looks for from his receivers:

    The Patriots lack receivers who can earn consistent separation as perimeter threats and Tom Brady's accuracy against tight coverage is average, at best. Brady and this offense win when it earns at least two-steps of separation on a defender, which is more like "college open" than "NFL open."

    This offense is built on earning this massive separation by means of its receivers making pre-snap, post-snap, and mid-route adjustments to coverage that match what Tom Brady sees. All teams expect this from receivers to some degree but the Patriots take it to another level that many receivers cannot hack. It's why we've seen so many receivers of note fail out of New England.

    Outside of Julian Edelman, the Patriots receivers aren't earning consistent separation and they're not making reliable adjustments to the defensive coverage. Phillip Dorsett is the most disappointing because he's a veteran with some tenure who has the speed to win outside but he's not on the same page as Brady.

    When a defense knows that most of its opponent's receivers can't get separation early in a route or can't spot the same necessary adjustments as its quarterback—a quarterback who has a great pocket presence but lacking the athletic skill to win with his legs—that defense will win with aggressive tactics.

    On Sunday, the Chiefs ran overload blitzes that gave them a man-on-man advantage against one side of the Patriots line and Brady's receivers either didn't or couldn't execute quick adjustments for Brady to find them.

    Week 16's matchup with Buffalo could prove troublesome for fantasy players who have Brady and Edelman. The Bills limited Brady to 150 yards and an interception in Week 4 and after watching the Chiefs hold Brady to 169 yards, an interception, and a flea-flicker touchdown to Edelman, don't count on Bill Belichick "figuring out," a solution this year because he lacks the personnel on offense to do so.
     
  14. white lightning

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    The Pats should bring in Zach Zenner. He is a good running back and an excellent receiver. They could also move him all around. He has the speed to play as an outside reciever or in the slot. He also can play running back and be a great outlet valve when the blitz is coming. Zenner can turn small plays into big plays. He is such a hard worker and will do anything you ask. Teams should give him a chance. He is not too old and has not played enough over the years.
     
  15. dwid

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    It's a pretty good analysis but I think if anyone could figure it out, it would be Bellicheck. Perhaps it won't be until the postseason though . One solution would be to utilize Burkhead more in the passing game. It would be awesome if they convinced Jordy to come out of retirement but that won't happen.
     

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