2019 NFL Week 13

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  1. icsept

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    Good to see the Vikings still have their snow-plow o-line. Wondering what happened to all their White defenders? Down to just Harrison Smith.
     
  2. Leonardfan

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    How underappreciated can Russell Wilson really be? Honestly I have heard that "gripe" since at least 2014.
     
  3. Shadowlight

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    The stupidest comment I have heard all year. At this point Booger needs to be escorted out of the booth in handcuffs.
     
  4. Leonardfan

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    Dung beetle Pick 6 off the deflection :aaaaa:
     
  5. PHillisFan

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    LMAO it was deflected then he tried to bat it down, but he ended up batting into the hands of a defender.
     
  6. Leonardfan

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    He was showing off dat wrist flick
     
  7. PHillisFan

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    Cousins having a very efficient game. Based on his stats, it's ridiculous that Cousins is not mentioned in MVP conversation.
     
  8. PHillisFan

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    Leave to an afleet to blow the coverage to allow the dungbeetle his first TD of the game.
     
  9. white lightning

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    Kyle Rudolph with the 1 hand catch for the td to pull the Vikings back in it. Kicker missed extra point but tney are down by 4 with 7 minutes left.

    Let's Go Vikings~~~
     
  10. rockybleier

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    Hang in there guys, the game is getting close.....
     
  11. white lightning

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    Another tough loss. This one hurt bad as it might keep the Vikings from winning the division. Their only chance now is for Green Bay to lose 1 game and they have to go undefeated. When Cook got hurt the backup was not efficient and then the loss of Thielen again just really makes it hard for them to win a tough road game against one of the better teams in the nfl. Oh well. Hope they can regroup with 4 games left. Thielen has to come back or else they are done. Maybe they will sign Zach Zenner. That would be a cool side story and he can help them running & receiving the ball.
     
  12. La France Blanche

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    Wilson is good but not great, yet he's consistently ranked in the top 5 QBs by almost every DWF publication. He's not "underappreciated" - on the contrary, in many circles he's worshipped.
     
  13. TomIron361

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    BRADY FEELS HEAT...
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    Interesting article. Brady is mentioning all of what is going on all over the league without of course mentioning race. It is interesting the inability of so many blacks to think on the move. They can do one thing like run a straight line extremely fast, but if you put something in it like cut right at a certain point (@15yds), then there could be problems. I remember years ago going to a Jets training camp (there were no actual calisthenics). Namath threw to points. Once the receiver turned back to face the QB, the ball was there - over and over - that was in place of calisthenics. But then again, Namath was throwing to guys like Maynard, Sauer, and Lammons - Big difference. I actually went to a bar to watch some football Sunday and the Giants QB threw an interception and everyone was saying "where was he throwing," not understanding the receiver probably wasn't where he was supposed to be - interesting. For the first time in his career, Brady is running up against what the rest of the QBs have been putting up with for years. Once again, a receiving corps being gutted of White receivers. That NE OC hates Whites, he being White himself. I hope Brady decides to retire this year.
     
  14. sprintstar

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    SL, I think they have the QB of their future in Kyle Allen, yes he makes mistakes but he is mobile, smart and extremely competitive, he just needs experience.
     
  15. wile

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    "I want to panic white people into action", by another more credentialed poster than little old me. Young men conservatives have been panicking white people for decades, do you see where we are now? Young men your job is to undermine the authority of the Caste System not create panic or abide panic or any of that loser conservative garbage.
     
  16. wile

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    About NE's WR woes, do they not emphasize the 3 cone drill and does that emphasize power to change direction and if so how do they end up with such stiffs over and over?
     
  17. FootballDad

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    Didn't watch much of this game, but that "underappreciated" comment is ridiculous. He's the highest-paid QB in the entire freaking NFL. I would classify him as "very good". He still doesn't go through multiple read progressions, but is accurate, has elite pocket awareness and is extremely clutch. Those things are what makes him dangerous and why he makes us all rage every week.
     
  18. Truthteller

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    The only potential "positive" from last night's game is the Vikings and Rams are battling for the final wild card spot, and at this point there is very little chance both teams make it to the post-season, unless the Packers totally tank. Rams are just one game behind Minnesota at 7-5 and play the odious Seahawks in L.A. this upcoming weekend. Rams lost by 1 point in Seattle earlier in the season and hopefully turned things around in Arizona Sunday.

    If it does, in fact, come down to Vikings and Rams for the final wild card spot, I'll take the Rams, as injuries have left the Vikings fairly Caste. Beebe and Gedeon are on IR and wont return......Sendejo and Adam T. seem to be perpetually injured. Again, would prefer both make it and Seattle drops out, but that won't happen. Watched very little of the game last night, because of all the injuries to the Vikings. If the Vikings had Adam T., Beebe and Sendejo, I would've watched most of the game. Adam's replacement (Bisi) had 1 catch for 1 yard.

    Freethinker, great idea. I wonder how many Int's Kalergi Man (K.C.) has thrown this year that have been overturned due to flimsy defensive penalties? Has to be at about 4, but at least 3? Wilson perhaps 2 or 3? I was absolutely stunned the ref's did not negate that huge 4th quarter pick he throw in S.F. with some bogus penalty. In retrospect, it's hard to believe the Ref's didn't wipe out that Malcom Butler pick in the Super Bowl with some very phantom off-sides penalty? Also, it's not just Int's being negated, it can be other silly penalties allowing "certain quarterbacks" to extend drives, like the inexplicable "roughing the QB" Clay Matthews allegedly committed at a very critical juncture against Seattle this season, that probably cost the Rams the road game (along with a missed FG) in a 1 point loss.
     
  19. Don Wassall

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    Thielen had never missed a game in his NFL career, now in its sixth season, until his hamstring pull a few weeks ago, which he re-aggravated by trying to return too soon. He's anything but "perpetually injured."
     
  20. dwid

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    Well not only that (the typical west coast offense) the Patriots upped it and used to be the master of option routes . On those, not only is Brady going to throw it to a particular predetermined spot, that spot can differ based on what the defense is doing. So the receiver HAS to be on the same page and reading the defense just like the quarterback. They excelled at this with their White wideouts. I think that's what most of the miscues are now. With Edelman being double teamed it should work in the offense's favor and open up things for a lesser talented receiver, but the talent gap is so extreme none of these bums can take advantage of these opportunities.

    Option routes have been around for a long time but the Patriots seem to be the only team that was able to utilize them so efficiently. Hmmm....I wonder why that is?

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    This is why I think coaches have been less reluctant to use White guys in the slot. Simply too many variables for a "typical" receiver to think about. With defenses struggling to stop just the typical old school run option plays, if you had the "right" personnel, option routes would practically be unstoppable in my opinion.
     
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  21. Westside

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    I am not too worried about NE. Their defense is vastly improved. Between BB, Brady, and OC, I am confident they will fix their receiving corps problems. If history in NE has proved anything in the last 8 years, another White receiver is a must. I hope they can get Hogan back.
     
  22. Westside

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    It's always a mistake to return too soon. I guess Adam's competitive drive overrode logic.
     
  23. Truthteller

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    You are correct and I knew he was not a Rex Burkhead type, who seems to be annually, chronically injured......I should've clarified, meant perpetually injured this season. Only reason I did not mention that, was because I originally lumped him in with Sendejo who's been battling similar (groin) injuries the last two seasons.....It seems every time Adam comes back, or is close to returning this season, he's always downgraded, in what might turnout to be a lost season for him?

    Would it surprise you if Thielen wind's up missing the rest of the season? I hope not, but I fear he might.....Anyway, my real point is with Thielen and Sendejo constantly week-to-week, coupled with Beebe and Gedeon gone and Zenner not signing, the Vikings don't seem to be too different than a typical Caste team at this point. White QB, white OL and TE, but little else, except a Pro Bowl SS. With that, if it came down to a binary choice of Vikings or Rams grabbing the 2nd wild-card, it's an absolute no brainer for me -- I'd much prefer the Los Angles Rams.

    And with Thielen out (or diminished in any way), I really doubt the Vikings can beat anyone on the road in the playoffs, particularly after the Seahawks destroyed Zimmer's precious, mostly coal-black defense last night.
     
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  24. Don Wassall

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    Just shows how much impact a single White WR can make when it comes to a team's "rootability." Without Kupp last year the Rams looked like a routine NFL team in the Super Bowl; without Thielen (and Gedeon, who isn't a top linebacker), the Vikings aren't quite the same. That's why I always use the term "relatively White friendly" and never "White friendly," because every single NFL team is black dominated and we root for the ones that aren't as bad as most of the others.

    I prefer the Rams at this point also, because of Kupp and because they have 9-10 White starters. The Vikings had eight last night but they were all at the standard positions -- QB, o-line, tight end, lone White defensive starter (but a great one).
     
  25. Truthteller

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    You are correct Don, Vikings certainly are not the must watch they were with Thielen and others injured. I think you can even add in running backs. If, for example, Nall and Zenner had even been part of the rotation at running back for Chicago and Detroit, I might've watched all or most of the Thanksgiving Day game. Instead, I tuned out the whole game. Same could be said regarding the 49ers. If they had Chris Borland (retired early) at middle linebacker and say one or two more white starters on defense (and a healthy Trent Taylor at WR) I would try to watch them and root for them every week. Instead, I've basically tuned them out all year. Only follow them to root for their opponent (Rams) or against their opponents (Seattle, Arizona ect.)
    Tom Iron is absolutely correct about quarterbacks having to throw to certain points on the field and a lot times interception's are caused by receivers running incorrect routes, more than a quarterback making a bonehead decision. Some Pittsburgh DWF's still believe Neil O'Donnell conspired with mobsters to throw a Super Bowl, when reality is his receivers ran the wrong routes.

    Last decade, I knew someone who was good friends with an NFL quarterback. Most here would know who he is, as he was a longtime backup. Despite not being drafted in the top 4 rounds, this quarterback started quite a bit as a rookie due to injuries and was off to a very solid start in his career. It really looked like he could "beat the odds" and go from a low round pick to entrenched NFL starter. Then it happened: A three pick game, which left all the DWF's thinking he was dumbest quarterback on the planet. Publicly he took the blame for all the interceptions he tossed. ESPN and all other Kosher media outlets really skewered him good, even though his coaches and teammates knew he was not totally at fault. Privately, he told people just one receiver (classic 1st round draft bust from the SEC) pretty much caused all that chaos by running totally incorrect routes that day in the red zone and end zone. The quarterback never mentioned race at all, but said everyone on the team knew the receiver/bust had trouble remembering proper routes, even very simple routes, but he was forced to throw to him anyway.
     
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