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Given Dak is no longer a rookie and Peterman is, Dak really has no excuses considering his past success on a loaded team, but only intelligent people will come to that conclusion. BSPN will feed the dwfs their thought control.

Also, Dak has been anointed as a franchise quarterback. He should be held to a far, far higher standard than Peterman.
 

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Dumb, agenda driven BSPN writer still trying to create some sort of a QB controversy at MIN, but fortunately, take a look at the comments section. She's being called out very harshly, lots of people it seems are aware of what this odious network is trying to do:

http://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-...-sixth-straight-win-case-keenum-gets-job-done

No surprise also that this idiot didn't mention Harrison Smith once either, despite lauding the Vikings' defense and secondary. PFF gave Smith their "game ball" as the best player of the game as he had a vikings-high 88.1 grade with two tackles, two pass defenses and only giving up one reception.
 

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Another estrogen filled analysis over at Mike Florio's woman's book club:
Teams can’t even evaluate the quarterbacks on their own teams, the guys they see at practice every single day: Bills Sean McDermott actually thought Nathan Peterman was a better quarterback than Tyrod Taylor, a laughably bad decision that McDermott went back on yesterday after Peterman threw five interceptions in the first half. And speaking of obviously wrong decisions that changed after one half, don’t forget that Texans coach Bill O’Brien started Tom Savage over Deshaun Watson before benching Savage at halftime of Week One.
 

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An odd week with a few positives including the play of the year which is very "predictable" coming from me. But a few negatives and the posters above are correct, the media is acting very peculiar getting their panties in a bunch over half ass stuff like the benching of Ty Taylor. Beyond the myopic racial panic fear given off by the media this story falls into the category of what difference does it make. The Bills suck either way. More on Taylor and other non white QB's in a minute.

The Mexicans were cheering the Raiders because of the California connection and or because they are an all black team? Couldn't figure it out ?

Three coaches of teams that are showing ineptitude. The Bears but especially the Redskins and the Chiefs looked clueless. Did you see the non existent tackling by a black Redskins defense? They blew a big lead late. A disgrace they looked like an all black Big 12 defense as they usher in players into the end zone. As for the Saints my biggest issue with Drew Brees is as far as I can remember he has never developed any sort of repartee with a white WR's then again there were probably none on his teams. But even with a very fast athletic TE and once budding star like Coby Fleener nothing much has ever developed which Don alluded to above despite 50 catches last season. Yesterday we got a glimpse of the hurt Fleener can put on defenses if only Brees paid attention to him. I doubt going forward Fleener will become a center piece like the great Kelce but Fleener is still under the age of 30 and still has great untapped potential that has never fully been exploited.

I want to expound just a bit on this developing ominous trend that has developed between black QB's and white WR's which was touched on in earlier posts after the Titans game and WR Decker's lack of targets and production. One minor caveat is Cam Newton who has a good connection with TE Olsen and is frequently feeding the ball to CM. But these players are not WR's and CM's patterns are nearly all RB stuff and not proper WR routes. There was also a time with Prescott and Beasley were going good but that lasted until mid way of last season and since then the duo's connection has disintegrated into dust which Al Michaels mentioned last night. You wonder if the Cowboys are letting Beasley go after the season and prepping Switzer? Then you have Thielen who had broken out last season with Bradford and now Keenum but had little success with Bridgewater in granted a much smaller sample size but still I remember the Vikings were a run first team back then and Teddy B looked lost if pressed to throw the ball so it is easy to picture Theilen falling off with Teddy B.
Of course Jordy Nelson has disappeared with Hundley. So a pattern has deepened.

So let me go back to Tyrod Taylor, who played with Chris Hogan and you can guess the results. Not good. You can plug in any non white QB for Taylor, especially running QB's like Mariota but I'll use Taylor as an example here. Imagine this guy early on. Probably the best athlete on his midget team and then high school where he dominated the game with the ball ALWAYS in his hands. Ample chances to show off his athletic ability to the college recruiters where he hits pay dirt at Virginia Tech. Along the way including college he probably rarely saw a white WR and given his background figured like so many others white boys just aren't athletic enough to play that position. So he cruises through life never having to "worry" about making a white WR a star and lands in the NFL. And he carries with him that same mentality that he is the team STUD with the ball who can run around and make splash plays. If he does throw the ball he is looking for the black players since that is so ingrained in his DNA. With these type of story back drops with so many black QB's is it any wonder that white WR's virtually disappear when playing with a black QB? This is what I think is going on. When there is a consistent trend you have to ask the question why?

One brief mention of QB Prescott. Unlike a lot of people here I don't have a huge emotional investment in who plays QB but we are seeing reasons why he was a middle to late round draft pick. Clearly outclassed by the more athletic and talented Carson Wentz, Prescott is settling in as a mediocre limited QB. There are worse out there but if I was the Cowboys I would be getting nervous. And yes Heath was missing last night and so was LB Sean Lee. Not to put a sledgehammer on it but Lee is one of those players the ENTIRE team relies on and without him the Cowboys are lost.

On a positive note both Kelce and Fleener had solid games. Cupp and Amendola were decent and DE Joey Bosa continues to create havoc in the back field. And to think people were questioning his high pick status. He has upgraded the Charger's defense to really good.

But two things stuck out the most. One is the Bengals who are saddled with an idiot coaching staff. Their QB is above average and on defense LB Vigil has played really well and athletic S Fejedelem is getting more snaps. Will he become a Sorensen/Heath and become a stellar starter or will he be more like Colin Jones and disappear back into the special teams? I hope the former. In that game as noted above Alex Erickson caught a tremendous 29 yard TD ( sizzled the D back with a move and speed) and I just don't understand why they don't employ him more often in their three WR sets? He had an important 2-42-1 stat line. Jordan Taylor another FA WR played a bit for the Broncos hauling in one 14 yard pass and returned punts.

But the play of the year was Theilen pulling away from two black DB's, one from caste haven Tennessee U, in what can only be described as a CASTE BUSTING MOMENT. These are the moments I enjoy most and the one thing that helps me stay connected in another wise bleak landscape. See below Erickson's TD.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21475409
 
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Speaking Monday, Bills coach Sean McDermott said he was "still evaluating" his Week 12 quarterback decision.

It's unclear what there is to evaluate. Tyrod Taylor should have never been benched in the first place and rookie Nathan Peterman was unspeakably bad in his place. McDermott also said he doesn't regret the decision to start Peterman, which leads us to wonder if he knows the definition of regret. If Taylor plays, he'll be firmly on the streaming radar against the Chiefs. If it's Pick Tossin' Nate, fire up the Chiefs.

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The Mexicans were cheering the Raiders because of the California connection and or because they are an all black team? Couldn't figure it out ?
Mexicans are Cowboys fans first and Raiders fans second. Both of these teams did plenty of outreach for beaner fans over the years. No other NFL teams come close.
 

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Way the caste system is ingrained to rid whites from the league, I will be surprised if Peterman is EVER giving a shot to be a starter. His best-case scenario will be floating around the league as a backup and he will be luckily for that. I hope I am wrong.
 

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An odd week with a few positives including the play of the year which is very "predictable" coming from me. But a few negatives and the posters above are correct, the media is acting very peculiar getting their panties in a bunch over half ass stuff like the benching of Ty Taylor. Beyond the myopic racial panic fear given off by the media this story falls into the category of what difference does it make. The Bills suck either way. More on Taylor and other non white QB's in a minute.

The Mexicans were cheering the Raiders because of the California connection and or because they are an all black team? Couldn't figure it out ?

Three coaches of teams that are showing ineptitude. The Bears but especially the Redskins and the Chiefs looked clueless. Did you see the non existent tackling by a black Redskins defense? They blew a big lead late. A disgrace they looked like an all black Big 12 defense as they usher in players into the end zone. As for the Saints my biggest issue with Drew Brees is as far as I can remember he has never developed any sort of repartee with a white WR's then again there were probably none on his teams. But even with a very fast athletic TE and once budding star like Coby Fleener nothing much has ever developed which Don alluded to above despite 50 catches last season. Yesterday we got a glimpse of the hurt Fleener can put on defenses if only Brees paid attention to him. I doubt going forward Fleener will become a center piece like the great Kelce but Fleener is still under the age of 30 and still has great untapped potential that has never fully been exploited.

I want to expound just a bit on this developing ominous trend that has developed between black QB's and white WR's which was touched on in earlier posts after the Titans game and WR Decker's lack of targets and production. One minor caveat is Cam Newton who has a good connection with TE Olsen and is frequently feeding the ball to CM. But these players are not WR's and CM's patterns are nearly all RB stuff and not proper WR routes. There was also a time with Prescott and Beasley were going good but that lasted until mid way of last season and since then the duo's connection has disintegrated into dust which Al Michaels mentioned last night. You wonder if the Cowboys are letting Beasley go after the season and prepping Switzer? Then you have Thielen who had broken out last season with Bradford and now Keenum but had little success with Bridgewater in granted a much smaller sample size but still I remember the Vikings were a run first team back then and Teddy B looked lost if pressed to throw the ball so it is easy to picture Theilen falling off with Teddy B.
Of course Jordy Nelson has disappeared with Hundley. So a pattern has deepened.

So let me go back to Tyrod Taylor, who played with Chris Hogan and you can guess the results. Not good. You can plug in any non white QB for Taylor, especially running QB's like Mariota but I'll use Taylor as an example here. Imagine this guy early on. Probably the best athlete on his midget team and then high school where he dominated the game with the ball ALWAYS in his hands. Ample chances to show off his athletic ability to the college recruiters where he hits pay dirt at Virginia Tech. Along the way including college he probably rarely saw a white WR and given his background figured like so many others white boys just aren't athletic enough to play that position. So he cruises through life never having to "worry" about making a white WR a star and lands in the NFL. And he carries with him that same mentality that he is the team STUD with the ball who can run around and make splash plays. If he does throw the ball he is looking for the black players since that is so ingrained in his DNA. With these type of story back drops with so many black QB's is it any wonder that white WR's virtually disappear when playing with a black QB? This is what I think is going on. When there is a consistent trend you have to ask the question why?

One brief mention of QB Prescott. Unlike a lot of people here I don't have a huge emotional investment in who plays QB but we are seeing reasons why he was a middle to late round draft pick. Clearly outclassed by the more athletic and talented Carson Wentz, Prescott is settling in as a mediocre limited QB. There are worse out there but if I was the Cowboys I would be getting nervous. And yes Heath was missing last night and so was LB Sean Lee. Not to put a sledgehammer on it but Lee is one of those players the ENTIRE team relies on and without him the Cowboys are lost.

On a positive note both Kelce and Fleener had solid games. Cupp and Amendola were decent and DE Joey Bosa continues to create havoc in the back field. And to think people were questioning his high pick status. He has upgraded the Charger's defense to really good.

But two things stuck out the most. One is the Bengals who are saddled with an idiot coaching staff. Their QB is above average and on defense LB Vigil has played really well and athletic S Fejedelem is getting more snaps. Will he become a Sorensen/Heath and become a stellar starter or will he be more like Colin Jones and disappear back into the special teams? I hope the former. In that game as noted above Alex Erickson caught a tremendous 29 yard TD ( sizzled the D back with a move and speed) and I just don't understand why they don't employ him more often in their three WR sets? He had an important 2-42-1 stat line. Jordan Taylor another FA WR played a bit for the Broncos hauling in one 14 yard pass and returned punts.

But the play of the year was Theilen pulling away from two black DB's, one from caste haven Tennessee U, in what can only be described as a CASTE BUSTING MOMENT. These are the moments I enjoy most and the one thing that helps me stay connected in another wise bleak landscape. See below Erickson's TD.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21475409

There's an ever-present fear of letting a White player become a star on offense at positions other than quarterback and tight end. The Packers finally let Jordy shine after a prolonged racial apprenticeship, but since have been scared witless to have another accomplished White WR despite drafting a few.

The Bengals dabble with Whites at "forbidden positions" on offense and defense, but keep them mainly as WSTDs. Erickson is better than Tyler Boyd and the well-traveled Brandon Lafell, yet he's never going to be a starter. Same with Fejedelem at safety. Before Clayton were several other capable White safeties who were always underutilized. And of course there's the four prime years of Rex Burkhead's career wasted. Nick Vigil is starting (and starring), but linebacker is the one defensive position Whites are sometimes allowed to start at without long racial apprenticeships.

Kudos to the Vikings for developing Thielen, but he's already 27. A receiver's prime years generally are from 22 to 29. But with racial apprenticeships, even when Whites finally get an opportunity they're almost always three or fours older than blacks at a similar point in their NFL careers, and NFL careers don't last long.

The fear NFL organizations have is not just the fear of being ridiculed if they have "too many" Whites or have a White star at a taboo position, even more so it's fear of "losing the locker room," as blacks tend to be extremely jealous of any White success in "their" sports. I didn't watch a lot of the Bills game yesterday, but would it surprise anyone if Peterman's teammates were less than thrilled to see him replace Tyrod Taylor, an attitude displayed on the field in a game in which the Bills, supposedly fighting for a playoff spot, were slaughtered by a 3-6 team? What the Raiders' o-line (allegedly) allowed to happen to Derek Carr was criminal, maybe literally, but has been swept under the rug and into the memory hole, whereas if it had been an all-White o-line deliberately not blocking for a black quarterback, it would still be dominating the national headlines of the fake news media.
 
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My only exposure to the NFL this week was the 1st quarter of the Packers game on the radio, the Packers' announcers were heaping praise on Danny.
 

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Great post Don, you could write a thesis on the subject. And very worrisome. Things are tough enough for white skill players like RB's and WR's to survive, advance and thrive in the caste thicket and make it to the NFL but with an added layer of the always under the surface chance of black sabotage it makes things even more difficult. Which is why all these protests and "black focus" issues have me on edge. Politically speaking the election of Trump has not altered the iron clad caste system one iota as far as I can tell. Perhaps things are even worse as blacks become even more entrenched. But I never thought that politics from the top would change the caste system anyway. Still we have to ask ourselves this ugly question: are blacks playing sports to win or to keep whitey down? I sense a semblance of that sort of thing in college games at times and the hyper focus of black defenses against white WR's where the safety is ALWAYS lurking as an example.

I have sort of figured one way to avoid these "anti white locker rooms" is to have a black QB throw to a white WR but as we have now seen in living color through the ages and up to the present day that apparently is not the answer because it seems black players and organizations in general don't want an answer much preferring the status quo where white players who play "taboo" positions get marginalized. Conversely black players could give a rat's ass about the race of offensive line men or kickers/punters. In a sense the biggest experiment team is the Panthers. With a white linebacker who is unimaginably great who makes the team top tier and a black QB with an up and coming white RB, if they could somehow win the Super Bowl with all of them sharing a starring role it might help mitigate some of these dark concerns. I think it would be a good thing because it would likely make blacks and whites content with that outcome. No it won't close the book on these problems and not by a longshot. And what are the odds Carolina wins the whole thing?

But the Carolina situation sort of points to ways this problem can get at least muted to some degree and will involve both black and white players sharing the glory. This to me is the best way forward out of this mess but it remains to be seen if anything will come of it.

And Don your Bengals analysis was spot on. They dabble with white skill players like Burkhead but keep them out of the MAIN LOOP.
I just read a piece where going into the Broncos game S Clayton Fejedelem had the best reception to coverage ratio in the ENTIRE league. One pass caught out of 36 chances. A ridiculously good number. A rangy athletic type it is high time the Bengals start him. Again here is a team that could help the anti caste cause if only Fejedelem and WR Erickson, both talented players, could get more chances to contribute. They have a black Head Coach so the "too many skill white players" thing might not bother the blacks as much as usual here. I would like to see Andy Dalton vindicated too because I think he is darn good QB. Well there is always next week. But this Jordy situation has made me ill.
 
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I just want to add one more thought on how the caste system can be reduced. I won't get into the sociological stuff that happens to budding young athletes because as we know most young white kids are discouraged from playing "speed" positions. I think when young people see skill position white athletes perform well at the highest levels it can only be a good thing. The more the merrier and will serve as inspirations for young white kids that whites CAN succeed at the skill spots.

That said, unless someone can come up with other ways to break the Boa Constrictor caste hold on sports another way is for white fans and the media to start to question and bemoan the "lack of " white skill players. I think this is a subject many white people notice and would prefer to see more whites say at RB and WR but it has yet to formally enter into the public conservation. The remaining questions are how long can this current system thrive without some sort of belated back lash from the white public? And it has always been my opinion that if the caste way of life continues at the current pace I suspect it is only a matter of time when the white public in general will start to feel restless and want to see some changes. The fact that it hasn't happened yet after so many years is remarkable to me and maybe I'm just hoping for too much but dammit sooner or later this caste dam will have to crack at least somewhat.
 
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Atlanta up by two TDs early. I hope they pour it on and blow out the plantation.
 

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Atlanta up by two TDs early. I hope they pour it on and blow out the plantation.

Dumb tripping penalty by Atlanta gave Seattle new life leading to a TD. I don't think there's a team and fanbase I detest more than Seattle.
 

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Seattle gives mega bust Dion Jordan another chance. Pathetic.
 

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ESPN showing a close-up every 30 seconds of Plantation Pete furiously chompin' on his ten pieces of gum.
 

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Joe Schobert had 11tkls today and a forced fumble, bringing him to 88 on the year. Emerging young star at MLB, he's only 24!
 

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Hopefully the fumble return for a touchdown sticks. It was just after the Midget was nominated for the hall of fame by Gruden. Review comes back positive, touchdown Falcons on fumble by Wilson the god.
 

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Dungbeetle fumbles - atlanta returns it for a TD. Have to wonder if the refs are going to give a gift back to the plantation and not call it a fumble.
 

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2 turnovers already for Wilson. Hundley had 3 and Dak 4 but Peterman's 5ints are all everybody's focused on.
 

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Hopefully the fumble return for a touchdown sticks. It was just after the Midget was nominated for the hall of fame by Gruden. Review comes back positive, touchdown Falcons on fumble by Wilson the god.

Last night Crissy was talking about the next generation of QBs and how Wentz and Goff have improved and than as the camera panned in on Dak late in the game - He said something along the signs of how Dak was the superstar of the league (this after his 3 ints and fumble). I think we all had it called properly on Wilson - he benefited greatly from a strong defense and running game - we see a contrast when the running game is gone and defense isn't a top 3 unit in the league. Prescott looks to be exactly in the same mold. I just think back to when Peyton Manning had no run legitimate run game or defense and how he orchestrated that whole offense - what a difference.
 

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Dumb tripping penalty by Atlanta gave Seattle new life leading to a TD. I don't think there's a team and fanbase I detest more than Seattle.
I think the odious fan base of the vile Raidus is more detestable.
 

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One thing about Seattle is they always seem to capitalize on mistakes. Stupid Atlanta return man muffs KO giving Seattle easy chance to score. Despite the TO's the Dungbeetle manages to score.
 
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