2017 NFL Preseason Thread

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I watched some of the Jags-Bucs game. It does sound like Bortles is pretty much done in Jacksonville - I am one of his biggest fans, thought he did alot of great stuff at UCF - he just has not panned out and I don't think Marrone will give him much of a leash. I do hope he is able to turn it around and have a strong season but I have to admit he has been a disappointment. Alot of blame should be focused on other factors - the previous regime was terrible with his development, the offensive line/running game never afforded him any relief and his receivers dropped a ton of passes. I want to be wrong on Bortles.

I did find some #fakenews from Weenieworld tonight:

Chad Henne completed 6-of-10 passes for 44 yards in the Jaguars' second preseason game Thursday night.

Henne didn't do anything on the field to distinguish himself, but it's important to note that the Jaguars left their first-team offensive line and receivers in the game when Henne entered late in the first half, and left them in with Henne fairly deep into the second half. The decision to do so suggests the Jaguars are at least considering the possibility they'll have to turn to Henne as a better option than struggling Blake Bortles.

Weenieworld fails to mention the two should of been TD passes Henne threw that were dropped.

Austin Allen did play well granted against the 2nd/3rd stringers but he did give provide a spark.


Another piece of news from Weenieworld, this time it's slightly better news.

Bills coach Sean McDermott was noncommittal on Tyrod Taylor's starting job following Thursday night's preseason game.

"Well, we're always going to evaluate everything," said McDermott, who praised fifth-round rookie Nathan Peterman for being "decisive" in Thursday night's exhibition game against the Eagles. Meanwhile, Taylor threw two interceptions in six possessions. Having traded away Sammy Watkins, the Bills' offense is no longer built to suit Tyrod's strengths. We suspect Taylor will still start in Week 1, but he may enter the season on a short leash

I have no idea what Idler arms strengths are...scrambling outside the pocket and throwing dump offs are what he seemed to do most of the time. He is in no way the type of QB to lead a vertical down the field offense - again Weenieworld has no idea what they are talking about. Good news for Peterman though who led a very prolific offense at Pitt last year!
 
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Looks like the Chiefs are going to give Alex Smith one year, then shove in black quarterback Mahomes next year no matter how badly he plays or how well Smith plays. Ironically, when Smith looks for another starting QB gig, he may well end up back in San Francisco.
 

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I watched some of the Jags-Bucs game. It does sound like Bortles is pretty much done in Jacksonville - I am one of his biggest fans, thought he did alot of great stuff at UCF - he just has not panned out and I don't think Marrone will give him much of a leash. I do hope he is able to turn it around and have a strong season but I have to admit he has been a disappointment. Alot of blame should be focused on other factors - the previous regime was terrible with his development, the offensive line/running game never afforded him any relief and his receivers dropped a ton of passes. I want to be wrong on Bortles.

I did find some #fakenews from Weenieworld tonight:

Chad Henne completed 6-of-10 passes for 44 yards in the Jaguars' second preseason game Thursday night.

Henne didn't do anything on the field to distinguish himself, but it's important to note that the Jaguars left their first-team offensive line and receivers in the game when Henne entered late in the first half, and left them in with Henne fairly deep into the second half. The decision to do so suggests the Jaguars are at least considering the possibility they'll have to turn to Henne as a better option than struggling Blake Bortles.
I liked Bortles A lot coming out of college. Unfortunately he seems to have bad mechanics which lead to inaccurate throws. That's basically the kiss of death for an NFL QB. I was hoping he would get the coaching in Jacksonville that could fix some of his problems. However with a bad offensive line, and crap coaching he may have been ruined beyond repair. Fortunately for the jags, there are some good white QBs in this draft this year. Of course a lot of the mock drafts have them taking Lamar Jackson which would be so much a Jaguars-like move.
 

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I liked Bortles A lot coming out of college. Unfortunately he seems to have bad mechanics which lead to inaccurate throws. That's basically the kiss of death for an NFL QB. I was hoping he would get the coaching in Jacksonville that could fix some of his problems. However with a bad offensive line, and crap coaching he may have been ruined beyond repair. Fortunately for the jags, there are some good white QBs in this draft this year. Of course a lot of the mock drafts have them taking Lamar Jackson which would be so much a Jaguars-like move.

Any team that drafts Jackson lacks a basic understanding of football. The gremlin was supposed to be the next big thing - he fizzled out after defenses figured out how to play "mobile" qbs.
 

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Former longtime scout Greg Gabriel said that he thought Peterman would end up starting before the end of the season.
 

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I think Bortles should get at least half of the season to see if he can work out the hitches in his accuracy. His "upside" is much higher than that of Henne, and the Jags likely aren't going anywhere this season, yet again. Bortles had a really good second year -- 4428 yards, 35 TDs and just 18 picks -- followed by a disappointing third season last year, but one or two preseason games isn't reason to give up on him yet. If his accuracy is bad in the regular season again then maybe make a change to the journeyman Henne, but now is still way too early to pull the plug and maybe wreck his confidence for good.
 

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It doesn't make sense to not start Bortles. Henne has never shown himself to be any better than Bortles at his worst.

The Jags should start Bortles this entire year and if he doesn't pan out they should look for another QB in next year's draft.
 
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The DWF/SJW alphabet soup crowd want Krappernick to replace Bortles, uniting the anti-Bortles and pro-Krapper headlines they keep pushing. Bortles deserves this season - this full season - to prove himself. He's shown that he's capable of good play with his 2015 season.

If Bortles ends up not working out, the solution is a White quarterback in the next draft, which will be rich with them. Black has-beens are not the answer.
 

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There will be Tebow talk, as well........He should have been in Jax 3-4 years ago.....Their new GM at the time denounced Chris Mortensen's report that the Jags wanted Tebow.....Lots of folks disagreed, of course......One thing is for certain, TT would have won way more than the 3-4 games BB has won for them each year and made the team a bag or two of money selling jerseys, concessions, tickets, etc......But, "he can't play in this league".....We can sit and name 40-60 guys right now on NFL rosters who he's better than.......That said, I still hoped BB does well and wish him luck this season.....No CK
 

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The DWF/SJW alphabet soup crowd want Krappernick to replace Bortles, uniting the anti-Bortles and pro-Krapper headlines they keep pushing. Bortles deserves this season - this full season - to prove himself. He's shown that he's capable of good play with his 2015 season.

If Bortles ends up not working out, the solution is a White quarterback in the next draft, which will be rich with them. Black has-beens are not the answer.

NFL Network just spent 5 minutes stating that Kaepernick is a viable option for the Jaguars. McGinest just said that the only weak spot is QB - I guess he forgot all the drops and terrible running game! No analysis at all. Just pushing an agenda.
 

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David Mayo has looked pretty good running with the Ones for Carolina in Keuchly's place as well.
Yes indeed...thought about including him in last post...6'-2" 245 Mayo is proving he's more than a Special teams player...he can't play behind Keuchly forever..if he can't play another LBer position by his side...he will end up a Starter on some NFL Team (AJ Klein/Saints)
 

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Thank You Charles Davis announcing Panthers/Titans on NFL Network ....YEP...He just said it...The other (white) announcer said "People that had questions abt McCaffrey a few months ago are getting an answer"...Davis said "STEREOTYPES....Because he is a White Running Back"..."Caste Busting Moment...."This guy can play"

McCaffrey with 38 yard gain on screen pass!!
 
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Thank You Charles Davis announcing Panthers/Titans on NFL Network ....YEP...He just said it...The other other (white) announcer said "People that had questions abt McCaffrey a few months ago are getting an answer"...Davis said "STEREOTYPES....Because he is a White Running Back"..."Caste Busting Moment...."This guy can play"

McCaffrey with 38 yard gain on screen pass!!

My jaw hit the floor when they started talking about stereotypes and said none of them held true. Christian is showing that he will be great if allowed to get touches.
 

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Christian McCaffrey with 3 rushes for 33 yards and 2 catches for 40+ and it's still the first half.
 

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Billingsley has beaten the Jets first round pick on two plays - he had a great juke of him on one play after he broke the initial tackle. Billinglsey should make the Lions this season.
 

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Dean Lowry with a knee injury. Hope it's not serious.
 
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