2012 NFL Week 11

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I can certainly agree with much of what GWTJ says, and yes I too take a certain intrest in Don and Bigunreal having their dialogue.
However, I believe Manning going to Denver was very good from the white player perspective. I just can't imagine Decker, Stokely, and the white tight ends having anything similar to the seasons they are having with Tebow at QB. Manning is leading what has become one of the AFC's whiter teams on a playoff march that hopefully goes deep. With Tebow at QB last season it is true that they did well, but so many of those wins were at the very ends of games. I just have to wonder if such a feat would have been replicated this year. Now, Bronco victories are usually emphatic with lots of white guys, not just Tebow, getting in on the action and scoring.
 

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Well, I for one like Bigunreal's posts. For two reasons, the first one being that I agree to a degree that the NFL is fixed. Not fixed in the normal sense, but fixed in the way white skill position players are handled. You can call it the status quo of the NFL or just say that there is no meritocracy involved, but too many white players have breakout games or breakout seasons only to be tossed aside for it to be coincidence. Mike Furrey in Detroit for example. Or Kevin Curtis with Philly. There's Peyton Hillis in Cleveland and many, many more if I did a drop of research.

We will see if Wes Welker will be allowed to make the HOF. Early in the season it looked like the answer was no. But a public outcry and multiple injuries seems to have given Welker another year of HOF production. I would like to see Wes get 1,000 catches for his career. That should insure his induction.

There is also the running QB situation. Eric Crouch, Matt Jones, Tim Tebow are the big name QB's with prolific college careers only to be denied opportunity in the NFL. Of course, black running QB's are 1st round draft picks, given carte blanche to be a starting QB for years and tons of endorsements. It does seem to me that owners actually ram these black QB's down the throats of coaches who don't want them. The coaches never outwardly complain the way John Fox complained about Tebow in Denver though.

And let's not forget how any talented white RB coming out of college just happens to be drafted by a team that already has a stud black RB. Even if drafting another RB makes no sense and is a wasted pick, it still happens. One has to wonder if the NFL brass isn't compensating these teams in some way for throwing away a pick. In another thread, before Toby Gerhardt got drafted, I posted that he had to get drafted by the Titans or the Vikings. I made that prediction based on the NFL's history of screwing over white RB's and doing all they can to make them irrelevant.

During this past off-season I was going to write an article titled, 'Why Peyton Manning must end up in Denver'. It was my opinion that only Manning could give Elway an escape from Tebow. I just don't have the time or energy to write such an article and wouldn't have the nuts to submit it even if I did write it but if you believe the NFL is fixed and doesn't want a star like Tim Tebow than Manning to Denver was a no-brainer. The NFL right now is practically making Tim carry his own cross to his crucifixion.

The 2nd reason I like bigunreal's posts has nothing to do with the NFL.

I have tremendous respect for Don Wassall. He has been an amazing moderator and owner of this site. Despite the large number of trolls he has to deal with he remains professional and even courteous to all. He has given 2nd chances to some who don't deserve it and the benefit of the doubt to some who are doomed to be banned.

But his relationship with bigunreal is different. Bigunreal really does seem to get under his skin. I find the ongoing war of posts between Don and bigunreal a very guilty pleasure. It goes back a long way and Don has seemed exasperated at times. I certainly don't wish any exasperation on Don but the posts are what they are. One post in particular had all of us saying, "Huh, did Don really just say that to bigunreal?"

I hope Don and bigunreal continue to have a respectful dialogue on this site. I apologize to them both for enjoying it as much as I do.


The point of my "dialogue" with bigunreal, respectful or otherwise, is not to entertain posters. If you want to believe his assertions that every pro sports event is scripted down to each play and that the athletes involved are knowing criminals, I obviously haven't been able to change your opinion.

However, my obligation is not only to posters, but to those who come to this site out of curiosity, open-mindedness, hostility, or whatever motivates them. The object of Caste Football is to support White athletes. We assert the existence of a Caste System in sports and back it with voluminous direct and indirect evidence, anecdotes and observations.

What about the young White football or basketball player who comes to this site after being turned down for an athletic scholarship that by all rights he deserved? What about his friends and family? What about those who independently of this site have noticed that White football players and basketball players don't seem to get the same opportunities as blacks, and that the media often denigrates White athletes with the same predictable stereotypes no matter how inappropriate they are in many cases?

We are trying to reach people like that with facts, passion and intelligence combined with common sense. I don't want them coming here and reading that Aaron Rodgers follows orders not to throw to Jordy Nelson, or that Peyton Manning is following a script governing how many targets Eric Decker is allowed to have in each game. I don't want them reading that White athletes in professional sports leagues are essentially knowing criminals. I don't want them reading the rantings of a buffoon who claims a conspiracy every time a White athlete or White friendly team has a bad game, but never does when a White athlete or White friendly team has a good game (or when a black athlete or black dominated team has a bad game).

It's quackery. I understand the frustration we feel about the Caste System and the fanatically anti-White nature of society at large, but I have no interest in endlessly appeasing the rantings of a paranoid poster who wants Toby Gerhart and Carson Palmer among others to throw away their careers by "publicly speaking out" while he himself is afraid to reveal the slightest detail about himself much less take a public stand. And of course, since Gerhart and Palmer are knowing criminals according to bigunreal, why would they?

Bigunreal used to write good posts about "Don King's America" and other topics but then he got started on his "every game is fixed, every athlete is a criminal" obsession. The more I ask him not to write about it, the more he does.

So rather than a "respectful dialogue" the issue is whether or not bigunreal wants to be banned. One can agree or disagree with how this site is moderated, but I feel I give posters a lot of leeway to state their opinions. I only ask that they do so without profanity and racial slurs, in other words write like a civilized White man. I also have made it clear time and again that claiming that every sports event is scripted (including college games) is silly and detrimental to the cause of supporting White athletes.

Bigunreal is free to start his own site promoting his views. And his followers are free to join the conversation with him there. I intend to keep this site true to my vision and principles. If that results in the decline and end of Caste Football, I will be very sad, but life goes on. This is a free site that uses a lot of my time as it is. It doesn't pay any of my bills. Virtually nobody here, other than posters I knew pre-Caste Football as friends and colleagues, supports any of the political efforts that I engage in and have dedicated my life to, efforts that are much more important than CF in the bigger scheme of things, so whatever will be will be, que sera sera.
 
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So is Peyton Hillis banned from the NFL now due to his fumble on Sunday?...is his career officially over?
 

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So is Peyton Hillis banned from the NFL now due to his fumble on Sunday?...is his career officially over?

probably the season. I read somewhere that because of how careless Charles was being with the ball, well the team, that the next person to fumble would be benched, or something to that extent. Of course we know Charles wouldn't be benched. It went from timeshare like with Thomas Jones, to the "hot hand". Charles has numbers but it doesn't help them win, its not like he has been getting big plays either, the one coming against the Saints and then a 37 yarder the next week. Hillis would elevate the offense.
 
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