2012 NFL Week 10

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  1. whiteathlete33

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    Toby is in a bad situation but you guys are right, not much he can do about it right now. He's stuck behind the best running back in the league. Talk about bad luck. If that isn't enough, he has a black head coach. Even if Peterson wasn't on the team what black head coach would start a white runningback? We all know Frazier would start any black scrub over Toby anyway.
     
  2. whiteathlete33

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    Okay then, name one white player who has demanded a trade and it has worked out for him. I can't think of one case off the top of my head. I'm sure it has happened in rare cases. We all saw how Hillis was run out of town. Do you want Gerhart to throw away his career entirely? You claim there is a complete conspiracy and the league is entirely scripted ,so then can Gerhart benefit from demanding a trade when the league is scripted and we already know the PTB will not allow him to get any playing time anywhere! You contradict yourself too much.
     
  3. Kaptain

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    Of course Toby can't complain - that would be stupid and mark him as some sort of behavior pariah. He'd never see the playing field again. However, when his contract is up he could sign with one of the many teams with crappy running backs. Green Bay comes to mind. He's already proven that he at least belongs in the league and I'd rather see him sit behind crappy runningbacks and eventually get his chance because of their crappy performance than have him be the water boy for Adrian Peterson the rest of his career.
     
  4. Kaptain

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    When Chester Taylor was Peterson's backup for three years (2007-2009) he never once had a game with zero carries. In fact he averaged about 8 carries a game behind a healthy Peterson.
     
  5. bigunreal

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    Don, you're much too smart not to understand that my criticism of the Patriots is not directed towards their white players. I thought I made it quite clear that I believe McWigger is mindlessly misusing Gronkowski especially, and also Woodhead and Welker. How does that translate into bashing a white friendly offense?

    As for Gerhart, he has every right to complain about not getting playing time. Of course, he's playing behind a top RB, but the Vikings also drafted him high for some unfathomable reason, and he is little more than a special teams player at this point. And if karma exists, Peterson will be hurt this season, and it will effect his playing career. I don't care how well he's playing, it's idiotic to overwork someone coming back from an injury like that, especially when you've invested a high pick in his backup, who looked great in limited action last season.

    Exactly what white player has ever demanded anything over the past twenty years or so? We don't know how it would necessarily work out for Gerhart or any other white player, but we do know how it is working out for them under the present system. Don himself remarked earlier in this thread that Gerhart is basically locked into a career backup role at this point. So what does he have to lose? And maybe, just maybe, the first white guy that acts a little sure of himself will provide the shot heard round the round.

    I thought I was expressing my views clearly. I will strive to do better.
     
  6. seattlefan

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    I remember discussing this on the Gerhart thread a while ago. It's absolutely true, when Taylor was AP's backup he regularly got carries and Taylor isn't half the RB that Gerhart is. I think there's two reasons: the black coach doesn't want a white RB, and AP is threatened by Gerhart's ability(500+ yards at 4.9 ypc in 2011). Taylor wasn't a threat to AP's starter role, so it didn't matter if he took some carries. That's why AP insists on carrying the ball all game long(even in garbage time), which probably lead to his injuries last year.
     
  7. Anak

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    I think bigunreal's comments on the Patriots are valid. McDaniels is forcefeeding the ball to Lloyd to the detriment of the team and the White stars. Danny's TDs have all come from sucker plays that he made the most out of and bailing Tom Brady out when he was in trouble. He had what should have been the long game winning TD earlier in the season that was called back by a bogus call from the replacement refs but I doubt it was designed to be anything special.

    Sadly the Patriots are the friendliest offense to White players, which just means that every other team is even worse. The Patriots offense could be so much better with a few simple, logical choices. Like, don't force feed the ball to one player that isn't producing, and how about designing your most athletic RB some carries beyond power runs up the gut.
     
  8. referendum

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    I didn't see all of the Eagles game but saw several drives with Foles in. Things looked a little out of sync with him in there, but I wonder how much of that was first game rustiness, and how much of that would improve with more game time experience. Here's hoping we may have just seen the future of Philly QBing for several years.
     
  9. Carolina Speed

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    Right, the only situation where this would benefit a white RB, and the situation would have to be ideal or almost perfect, would be: 1. Where the team and the running game would have to be struggling, 2. It would have to be a White RB of Gerhardt's stature coming out of college and where he has proven himself in the few opportunities he was given as a pro, which he has, 3. In Minnesota's case, I believe the other white players such as, Ponder, Rudolph, all the white OL, Greenway, Allen, and Smith would all have to get behind Gerhardt and support him. Only when white players make a stand together will they be heard! Currently this isn't the time or place for TG.

    Kansas City, with Hillis, is the only thing close to this scenario at the present time. It could happen there if the white players would make a stand for PH.
     
  10. FootballDad

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    Speaking of Peyton Hillis, he should get a lot of action tonight as Jamaal Charles is not 100% and has proven that he isn't an every down back. But considering that the Chiefs are in hot pursuit of a dubious record achievement, it is possible that they will have to pass every down.
     
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    Biased much? That was his first game ever and he did pretty good.
     
  12. Westside

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    Steven A. Smiff is the prototype of the current BSPN sports talking heads. Black, ebonic laced English, irrational, loud, anti White, militant pro black and lack of discipline on the air. Over the last year he has used the N word twice. He used a phrase most urban/ghetto negros love to utter "ni**a please" and yet there he is, a feature negro on BSPN. America is great. :noidea:
     
  13. Westside

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    Hillis getting more than 1 carry per quater? Believe it when I see it.
     
  14. FootballDad

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    He won't get much more than that, but neither will Charles, Draughn or anybody else. After the Chiefs fall behind by 3 touchdowns in the first quarter, they will pass on every down. Such is life for the Chiefs under the great Romeo Crennel!
     
  15. Lew

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    I believe Ron "Jaws" Jaworski has proven himself to be the media caste clown of the year. Yesterday on the radio he said that Josh Freeman is the hottest QB in the league right now. And even though almost everyone at BSPN has turned their back on sCam, "Jaws" is still out there constantly making excuses for him. To hear him to talk about conVick is even more unbelievable. He's been his number one apologist this whole season. All he does is try and blame the O-line and talk about all the hits that Vick's taken this season. As if it wasn't his fault he keeps getting hit. I don't know what's going on. Maybe after getting demoted from MNF he's worried that BSPN's gonna let him go soon.
     
  16. Leonardfan

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    Foles looked pretty good. It was his first game as a rookie QB. Stephen A. Smiff's attack on him was totally race based.
     
  17. Awake in America

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    Just going by ye olde passing efficiency rating, Foles did better than Vick has done in five of his eight full games this year, and bested Vick's average. Not that Smith's racial bias needed proving.
     
  18. Gibbon

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    I can ALMOST understand the instinct of a white commentator to be "self"-deprecating toward players of his own race while overly praiseful of black players. Almost as a magnanimous act of humility, as a sort of olive leaf in race relations toward blacks—though I, of course, 100% disapprove of it. After all it isn't "self"-deprecation, it's selling your own brother and family down the river. Yet it galls me to no end to see blacks jumping on the SAME bandwagon and underrating white athletes while shamelessly puffing up their own kindred with absolutely no sense of a reciprocal humility and often against all factual evidence.

    I always considered Magic Johnson an exception to this tendency. Sort of the antithesis of Charles "Flakey White Stuff" Barkley. Yet to be honest with you, I eventually found his aw-shucks, house n*ggering as unctuous and nauseating as most blacks probably did. It's simple. Root for and support your own. You can respect your opponents (or your brother's), and you should never underestimate them, acknowledging genuine talent where it exists, but never kiss their *ss.
     
  19. Don Wassall

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    The Patriots have the Whitest offense in the league -- and the Whitest in decades -- and have scored the most points of any team in the league so far this season. Of all teams to criticize you focus once again on the Patriots. It's ridiculous, but then again so are many of your posts. I'm surprised you haven't started on the Minnesota Timberwolves yet.

    And per your usual m.o., you ignored my request re Gerhart. What exactly would you have him say, and how do you see it playing out after he begins publicly complaining? Perhaps you can begin by detailing how you've publicly complained about affirmative action and political correctness at your workplace, and how much that benefitted you in your career.
     
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  20. Tom Iron

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    Looks like Rex Ryan wants to make sure the season is down the drain before he makes a QB switch. I think he'll be history at the end of the year. The GM, Mike Tannenbaum should go as well. He doesn't have it either.

    Tom Iron...
     
  21. Awake in America

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    Why do the Vikings seem to be one of the more hated teams on this board? I know they have a black coach, and I know that Gerhart is stuck in a bad situation, but they start 9 white players, including a rookie safety they took in the first round, much to the consternation of the DWFs. They have the 2nd whitest defense in the league, and those 4 players are all excellent evidence against the idiocy of the caste system. Every week I look at the defensive stats for the league, I see a bunch of white Vikings (weird term) doing quite well. They also have an up and coming white QB. Lose a sumo on the OL, and they are as white as the Patriots in the starting lineup.

    FYI, I am not a Vikings homer, I just started paying closer attention to them since drafting Gerhart, Harvin, and Ponder in FF. I took Gerhart on the idea that Peterson wasn't going to be ready to go. Maybe I should hate them.
     
  22. Extra Point

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    Realistically the season is already down the drain. The Jets are 3 and 6 and out of it.

    Ironically, the best chance Rex Ryan has of saving his job might be giving Tim Tebow a chance. Tebow might create some spark with the team the way he did with the Broncos.

    What does Ryan have to lose? As it stands the Jets won't make the playoffs and Ryan will be fired.
     
  23. white is right

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    Vick is used up and spent and has seen his best days. If the Eagles are going to lose then they should lose with a guy learning on the job. Fat Bastard's a dead man walking regardless.
     
  24. Don Wassall

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    All the hard-core patriotism at NFL games is way over the top, especially this month with endless tributes to the military replacing last month's annual October pinkfest submission to feminism.

    I'm extremely patriotic, but this stuff is mindless worshipping of militarism and the U.S. government. Back before the counterculture and the Permanent Revolution that started in the late '60s, society wasn't this doting toward the military and the government. Football, corporatism, and militarism, all melded together in America's secular religion, used to help stifle legitimate critiques of U.S. foreign policy and the imperial empire that has bankrupted the country.
     
  25. northwinds

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    I agree.....I enjoy watching the Vikings.....started their 'D/ST' on my all white fantasy team this week and they did pretty good. I will admit that the Gerhart situation is so amazingly incomprehensible.....why would they trade up and draft a player in the early second round to sit on the bench. I think it came down to Adrian Petersen being such a racist and not wanting Toby to get any reps....and the black coach not wanting to upset the locker room, etc.....still it sucks...and I hope Toby, at least internally, asks for a trade. There are only about five teams in the NFL I can even watch....and the Vikings are one (the others being Packers, Texans, Patriots, Broncos).
     

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