2011 Top 100m Sprinters

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  1. mastermulti

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    I'd like to hope there is some improvement to come and that there'll be some of these guys peaking in 6 weeks.

    Though I can't say I'm overly confident.
     
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    Oddly enough, I don't think times alone suffice for these sort of rankings. Realistically, I look at that list and I know that Kuc, Crawford, and Smyth are nothing special and will never touch those fluke times again. In fact, Crawford has probably raced for the last time. Lemaitre, on the other hand, has been running consistent 9.95s (the 9.96 on the list needs correction) and should bring that down a little by the end of the year--I could see a 9.92. Guliyev has shown evidence that he is actually much faster than 10.16 but just needs to put it all together in a really good race. Niit was helped by the wind. He's more of a 200/400 guy. Connaughton should be third after Guliyev, but he can't seem to make the final breakthrough.
     
  3. white is right

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    It will be interesting to see how many guys out of this list toe it up to start the 100 meters in Korea. So far only 4 guys have the A standard. Also many federations don't send guys with the B standard as they don't feel they will be competitive. I know in the past Canada has held back sprinters who only met the B standard. IMO if a federation will only send runners that run 10.18 or faster they are implying that they prefer that their athletes juice and not get caught. A clean 10.18 sprinter is much higher class of sprinter than that time would indicate.
     
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    Anybody heard of these high schoolers:

    Dallas Burroughs ran a 10.34 for an Idaho state record. I think he's going to Bosie St

    Brett Buskey ran a 10.60 and won the Mass state title and the New England regionals

    Pretty good times for high schoolers
     
  5. jacknyc

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    Dallas Burroughs has been mentioned a few times on the high school thread.
    Brett Buskey is a new name I think. Thanks for that.
     
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    Fabio Cerruti down to 10.22 over the weekend.

    I believe this time is altitude assisted, and based on Cerruti's performance last wk at the Italian Championships, I am not optimistic that he will run close to this time again this season.
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  7. white lightning

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    Ronald Arajs ran a new national record and personal best of 10.18 yesterday!
     
  8. jacknyc

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    I agree with you.
    There's Lemaitre, then Guliyev, and that's it.
    There is no strong, clear #3 sprinter.
    Kuc is not it. I don't believe Connaughton is either.
    In the past seasons it would have been one of the Italians, but they've shown very little this year.
    But who knows, maybe Marek Niit or Mateo Galvan can drop down to be good 100m men.
    It seems unlikely, but it is not without precedent - Usain Bolt was actually a 400m runner, before moving down to the 100m and 200m.
    Anyway, I'm very happy with Lemaitre and Guliyev, especially since they are just 21yrs old.
    But it would nice to have some other guys not so far behind.
     
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    Yeah, if LeMaitre pulls a hammie or something, we're back down to ground zero. Guliyev isn't there on time yet, but he sure passes the eyeball test for the second 50 meters. If it weren't for the evidence of the clock, I would swear he's running faster than LeMaitre from 50-100 meters. That's probably an illusion based on him running against inferior competition.
     
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    Maybe it's Pickering. He has been world semi-finalist and has a somewhat decent sb and has a good chance of being in the relay pool for the worlds and is a bit of dark horse to outright make the team in the 100.
     
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    Anyone know whats going on with the Germans? Are they having a bad year or something? It seems like they usually have a handful of guys between 10.10-10.30
     
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    Tobias Unger is getting too old. In his 30's now and he doesn't do peds like many of these older sprinters running personal bests left and right while taking their flinstone vitamins. Christian Blum has been average after serious injuries. Alexander Kosenkow is also well into his 30's. Martin Keller is ok but he has a long ways to go. The most talented of the moment is proabably Sebastian Ernst and he mainly runs the 200 meters. He recently ran a 20.58 over that distance. Nothing special. I would like to know what happened to Robert Herring. I had high hopes for him. Injuries seem to have stopped him.
     
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    Just checked IAAF.org and last year Germany had 5 guys run 10.30 or better. This year they have none so far...hopefully they will finish strong. Yes, I remember reading about Herring too in 2009 I believe, but haven't heard a thing about him since. Hopefully he is training and or recovering and will make a nice return. The Japanese may have some fast runners coming up too, they have 6 or 7 guys running in the 10.20-10.30 range, however it looks like most of the times were wind aided.Edited by: Soccer&track
     
  14. dr.riders

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    For european (or caucasian) white sprinters, a great problem is to believe in their capacity. Many are only not so great sprinters. For example Collio and Di Gregori, the problem is that they reached the maximum and now their are too old for improvement. But Cerutti is, for me, the only italian capable to run under 10.10. But he would train harder and believe in self capacity. For years only "black" runners (expecially from USA and then Jamaica, or trained in USA like the other carribean sprinters) ran under 10.00. And this became a phsycological wall for the sprinter with a different ancestry. But if you think that Africa gave only few sprinters capable of under 10.00 (the majority have prestation similar to european sprinters), and Cuba or Brazil (two countries with great athletes in other disciplines and the majority or a great part of the population with principal african ancestry) have noone under 10", we understand that the problem is complicated. Psycology and attention for some disciplines rather than</span> other change the possibility to find </span></span>real</span> talent </span></span>or reach some higher prestation in sprinting. In Italy the majority of the people (expecially if female) don't do any sport. The sport much </span></span>practiced is soccer. But majority of talented athletes are lost because there is no real sport culture. </span></span>In addition we can practice a great number of sports like swimming, ski, volley ball, basket ball, handball, cycling, motorbike, mountainbike, climbing and other, and other. The other people can study and </span></span>soon</span> abandon</span> the sport. What are the possibility for afroamericans? There are very few social possibility for them to practice other sports or athletics disciplines. And then there is the doping problem. It's difficult to understand this problem. Not every country have the possibility to have the same doping that other country, even if in every country we have athletes that use it.
    I some area of Kenya </span></span>virtually all</span> children</span> from</span> middle-distance</span> running</span> races</span>. Similar to the sprint importance in Jamaica. The </span></span>attention</span> is focused</span> in a few</span> sports</span> or even</span> athletics</span>,</span> but with</span> a higher</span> selection</span> than in Europe</span>.</span> Thus</span> the results</span> in sports</span> or</span> disciplines</span> practiced</span> are higher</span>.
    Also in Europe some nations have a great number of sprinters than others. Italy is one of this. But without a real selection. I know it. I was an athlete when i was young but then i stoped when i go to university. And it's for the majority, the very small majority that practice athletics. In many african country is the same. Like in central and south america. In Australia there is a proportionally bigger number of athletes respect the entire population.
    For me the problem is cultural, social and psycological. Like the fewer opportunities to emerge in other than sport for african and afroamerican people in many country (like USA for example). In Europe black people have much more opportunities to emerge in studying (practically the same that italian whites - in Italy the difference isn't skin colour but is recent or older immigration).
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    Welcome to the board dr. riders and what a great post. I agree with you that it is and always has been more of a social/cultural/psychological problem than a physical one. There is and has never been any reason why whites can be excellent sprinters. Even the long legs/short torsos is a common trait of many whites from around the world. Not all whites have short legs and long torsos despite what guys like Jon Entine want us to think. Lemaitre and Guliyev prove that whites can run with the best and there are more guys like them. They just are playing other sports, playing music, or busy with school or work. <div></div><div>If athletics ever got as popular with whites world wide as it is with blacks, then you would really see some serious talent similar to Lemaitre. I don't believe he is the only white guy capable of this. Not for one minute. Give me more participation and I guarantee you would see more results. We need to disprove the stereotypes. </div><div></div><div>Back to Lematre. I will adjust my prediciton. I predict a 19.95 on Friday.</div>
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    I agree with you. But i don't think the difference is long legs or short legs (even if it seems to help...). I have medium-lond legs and a shorter torso. So other italians. Other have short legs. Michael Johnson has short legs and long torso but ran fast, expecially in 200m.
    I think that China and India in the future will have great sprinters. But now they have very very very low athetic culture. In Italy and France the sprinters (blacks, whites, mixed, with every ancestry) run</span> on the same time.

    For me Lemaitre could run near 19.90. It's even possible under 19.90. But he is </span></span>not yet</span> accustomed to</span> mentally</span> take</span> in some</span> time</span>.</span> Must try</span> and understand</span> concretely</span> what he</span> can do</span> and then</span> he can do</span> better.
    I know the effect of phsycology. When i was an athlete i was young and i didn't believe in my possibility. It was a </span></span>brake.
    Lemaitre seems to believe in himself. </span></span>Indeed</span> he thinks</span> only</span> he can and</span> must</span> do better</span>,</span> and this</span> is the best help</span> he</span> can</span> get.</span></span>
     
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    Windy, but the times are decent:

    Réthimno GRE 13 July

    help: click on name to get more info about athlete.


    Men

    100 m
    Wind: 2.8
    1 Rytis Sakalauskas LTU

    27.6.87


    10.10






    2 Aaron Rouge-Serret AUS

    21.1.88


    10.20






    3 Marc Burns TRI

    7.1.83


    10.27






    4 Martynas Jurgilas LTU

    5.9.88


    10.45






    5 Anastásios Zarmakoúpis GRE

    .87


    10.56






    6 Ã￾ggelos Aggelákis GRE

    23.3.88


    10.59






    7 Georgi Kirilov Georgiev BUL

    .91


    10.59






    8 Philippos Spartsis GRE



    11.11
     
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    good to see Aaron doing a 10.20 even with that 2.8 wind. He thinks he will get to that in zero wind within the month. I hadn't heard of the Lithuanian though. Must look him up
     
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    I dont agree but I except other view and hop you guys dont hatye my view.
    I see caste and that all white qualitys are praicved and all non white not.
    But I think west africans have advantage in sprinting.
    I know therwe are whites with relativelty long legs.
    But they are still a % and more rare in whites.
    also 1 sd of blacks west africna is 3.7 cm for leg length and 3.5 for whites.
    this was for west africnas for are 5.6 on average so for the ones american continet it would be like 3.9 cm.
    So taking in 3 cm longer legs at same height + more variation in leg length is advatage.
    they also look to have most of the time when in shape like in soccer or runner 5to 6 % bodyfat and whites 8-9%. 3% bodyfat gives like 2% advantage I think.some say it is only the skin colour but I have seen 1/5 whites of whites very ripped too with light skin and 4/5 blacks in soccer
    So west africna descendents are more likely to have a lot og the tools together.
    if you could combinate the explsiveness of Fasuba 9.85 with his short legs with the long legs of Bolt you get a sub 9.
    I think it is not rare to finf a white with explive muscles but it could be that the combination very explosive musles, relaitvely long legs, very low bodyfat is rare skinny calves is rare.you can be faster with short legs becuase of more explosive muscles but it is better to have all the tools.
    it cpould be that they are leaner 4/5 times with 8/10 times longer legs and in top even 9-10 times becuase of bigger SD variation legs.so the combination is more seen in west african ******* then in others.

    West africans are small and becuase of that less % tall. which is one of the resons they do it relaltively bad to american continent blacks.
    Brazil have nearly no blacks, if you dont count the 30 to 50% black mulattos that most mulattos are there.

    whites to me are great allround ,strong and mostly less specific pure long opr short ditsance runners and intemediar between abilty long short distance between both west and east africans.

    but I will stop becuase you guys know my view and it doesn't mather.Supporting whites is were it is about.

    I think that 10.00 mongolid is more rare then 9.95 white and that the white have more rome for improvement.
     
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    with longer legs I did mean relatively at same height 4 out of 5 times and 9 out of 10. did doens;t mean this is true for whites in the top becuase some have a bit more fast fibers and others a bit better built etc.I just think combination of tools is most coomon is west african descendents.

    I think Christophe leamitre would be faster in hot weather if he had 5% bodyfat then what he he has if it was natural.Not of course if he had to do crazy things like running with empty stomach in the morning eating less then he needs etc.I have only seen his arms but I think I can see he has what most whites have when they are lean 8 to 9 % fat....
     
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    there are several of us here who believe sub-saharan west african blacks have a body type more suited to the sprints.
    A few whites such as Lemaitre and Guliyev are outliers but prove the right sprinting "tools" can be found elsewhere.

    When I look at a lot of the European white sprinters I see long torsos and relatively squat legs which can give good early acceleration but relatively restricted top end speed.
    I watched the Swiss Mancini recently and he epitomises this situation. The whites who work on gaining lots of power (Connaughton and Mancini as 2 examples) seem to be missing that top speed.
    Elliott Bunney and several Brits of fairly recent vintage (90s) were also afflicted this way.

    That has always been my opinion but I am certainly a proponent of equal opportunity - let anyone who desires it get the opportunity to be the best they can in whatever they choose.
     
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    Whether blacks are directly from West Africa or from Jamaica or Haiti or are African-American, the Caste Media wants people to believe that they are tall and lean. However, that is simply untrue. Just because blacks in America have more food, that really doesn't suddenly make them into superhumans.. if that was the case, then wouldn't that also make White Americans and Asian Americans into superhumans - too? People just have the genetics that they have.

    In America, if you separated blacks into two tribes: One tribe consisting of tall and lean and the other tribe consisting of short and rotund.. the short and rotund tribe would greatly outnumber the tall tribe! There are also many short, skinny blacks walking around..

    Go to Georgia, Louisiana, Florida, Texas, South Carolina -- "Football Hotbeds" -- and bunch of the black linemen are short and obese and not long-limbed. A bunch of the linebackers, running backs and tight ends are also short and obese.

    In America and worldwide, men's volleyball is dominated by White men. It's true that black guys usually lack the reflexes needed to succeed in high-level volleyball, but they have physical-shortcomings as well. The Caste Media will never bring that up though. In basketball, I'm seeing more and more White men that FLAT-OUT have "better builds/more size" than the vast majority of black American ballers. How is that possible? In the "black mans game" - no less?

    It would be absurd to suggest that all Anglos have blonde hair and blue eyes.. it would be even more absurd to suggest that just because blacks were picking cotton, they have become superhumans in 2011 - the unquestioned World's Greatest Athletes - negro please! Whites and Polys have proven to be stronger than blacks. And, let's not forget that many Whites have ancestors that farmed and that did other hard physical labor. Why is that "conveniently forgotten?" Oh, yeah, it interferes with the agenda that blacks are studs -- and evolve immensely, physically, each generation -- while Whites are stone-age p*ckerwoods.
     
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    Deadlift,

    I know african americans are not all big but they are 5-10 feet on average.
    But Nigerian( biggest populated west african country) young men for example are 5-6 feet on average.It looks like most non white races are all like 5-4 to 5-8 feet on average except blacks from american continent.It could be part nutriton but for example in europe the people from the Dinaric Alps are poor on average but height 6-1 feet on just like the 'rich dutch' who are a bit under 6-1 but that is including minoritys with dutch passport.
    So it could also be that whites bought mostly the relatively tall slaves....?
     
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    Here's where we stand now with the Top 10.
    Roanalds Arajs has moved into the top 5.
    Lemaitre is miles ahead of the rest of the pack. Guliyev would be closer if he hadn't run his race into a negative wind.

    1/ 9.96 Christophe Lemaitre - France
    2/10.15 Dariusz Kuc - Poland
    3/10.16 Ramil Guilyev - Turkey
    4/10.18 Ronalds Arajs - Latvia
    4/10.18 Shane Crawford - USA
    6/10.19 Craig Pickering - UK
    7/10.21 Marek Niit - Estonia
    8/10.21 Jared Connaughton - Canada
    8/10.22 Jason Smyth - Ireland
    8/10.22 Emanuele DiGregorio - Italy
    8/10.22 Fabio Cerutti - Italy
     
  25. white lightning

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    I'm suprised we haven't seen a few more of our guys put up some faster times this summer. It seems like we had more sub 10.20 guys going into the 2009 World Champs than this year. Many of the guys we root for are getting older. It's funny how with black sprinters, they seem to get faster with age. Just look at the British Guys as one example. Dwain Chambers(33), Christian Malcom(32), and Marlon Devonish(35) all running as good as the young guys. I could name many other black sprinters around the world who seem to not age when it comes to sprinting. It kind of reminds me of Linford Christie who was later busted for p.e.d. use. It's so obvious with alot of these guys. You don't run this fast into your early to mid 30's.

    Then you have our guys that get slower with age. From Simone Collio, Emanuelle Degregario, Matic Osovnikar, Paul Hession, Johan Wissman, etc. It really makes you wonder what it going on behind the scenes? I think we already know the truth with alot of these guys.

    The thing that frustrates me the most though is that we don't have more young guys coming up yet. I'm hoping by the 2016 Olympics, we will have at least 5-10 guys with a chance to make the finals in the sprints. We will have to see how some of the younger sprinters progress. At the moment, Lemaitre is on an island by himself. What a shame. I really thought that Criag Pickering was close to his old form until he got hurt again yesterday in the semi finals. There still hasn't been any word on the severity of the injury. I feel so bad for this kid. He has been through so much. Craig is tough though and he will not give up. Maybe Adam Gemelli, Sam Watts, Richard Kilty and a few others can step up their game so he won't feel all alone. One other note on sprinting in the U.K. Simeon Williamson has dissapeared. He is running slower than ever. He must have ran out of his flinstones.
     
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