2011/2012 Bowl Game Thread

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Since the slate of 35 bowls gets underway today, I thought I'd go ahead and start a thread for keeping track of how White athletes and majority White teams do over the course of the next 3 weeks.

Today we have 4 majority White teams playing in Wyoming, San Diego State, Ohio, and Utah State.

Wyoming plays Temple at 2PM Eastern time.

Ohio and Utah State square off at 5:30PM Eastern.

San Diego State plays Louisiana Lafayette (Southwestern) at 9PM Eastern. All three tilts will be aired on BSPN.

I'm looking forward to seeing Texas Christian and Louisiana Tech at 8PM Eastern on BSPN next Wednesday, Dec. 21. Hopefully Hunter Lee will have a nice game running the ball.
 

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Adam Kennedy was back in the game for the "dynamic one"..
 

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Tettleton's special, he's only a sophomore and showed he has ice in his veins when the game is on the line. Keller had a great outing at MLB and Blankenship showed a good burst running between the tackles!
 

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celtic, I agree. I've been impressed by what I've seen of Tettleton thus far. He ended up the second leading rusher on the team with 166 rushes for 658 yards and 10 TDs!
 

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Hunter Lee with 54 yards rushing with 5:50 to go in the 2nd quarter, his ypc is 3.7 but TCU is 29th in the nation against the run and for the most part has been getting consistent gains. He made a few freshman mistakes trying to bounce it to the outside instead of taking what is there when the defense is swarming and there was nowhere to go, it worked a few times and he got positive yards, but a few times he was stopped for no gain and could have gotten a 2 or 3 yards if he plowed forward. I wonder who was behind getting Lee to come to La Tech (probably the same guy who got Ray Holley as a JUCO transfer)......he was almost forgotten like many other White backs. If only more of them could get a shot. Tulane could benefit by going after "overlooked" athletes that play tough competition in high school. I know McNeese St scooped up one of theLouisiana's top rushers. Tulane does have a White cb and safety but for some reason the White corner Alex wasn't starting last year. Hopefully with the new coach. He has great speed, played at John Curtis, a powerhouse.

I just hope Hunter Lee remains the feature back, he got the chance because 3 tailbacks went down, he was a 4th string walk on. He really looks like he could be on the same level as Rex Burkhead.
 
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White players dominating for Boise St. Too bad they aren't playing a tougher team. 1 loss to TCU by 1 point leads them to the Las Vegas bowl? They already beat Georgia, I think they could beat other SEC teams as well, but then the excuse would be "Boise st doesn't have to play anyone tough all year, they are more rested"

Leading up to this game they kept highlighting the White qb and White wr for ASU, Aaron Pflugrad, about the size difference making the White guy out to be mini, well compared to the 6'8 qb yeah but 5'10 isn't that small. Steve Smith is 5'9. There is a black wr/rb on the team with the same listed height, has 60 catches, but a 6 yard per catch average. Aaron is averaging 15 ypc.


did anyone see the 99 yard interception return for a td? it was an afflete, but the guy running in front of him (they were both going full speed most of the way) was a defensive lineman, the db only slowed down at the very end when the guy made a block. I want to say it was Shea McClellin pretty sure it was his number.
 
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DWID, yessir...BSU was totally shafted by that joke that is the B(S)CS system. The Broncos could have easily won the SEC East (as they beat East "champion" UGA). The B(S)CS is long overdue to be scrapped.
 

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College Football's Fleecing of American Universities

By the time the 2009 football season rolled around, the University of Minnesota hadn't won a Big 10 title in 42 years. The Gophers had largely spent those decades serving as target practice for the league's higher powers, but they weren't without occasional bursts of second-string glory.

That season Minnesota finished 6-6, collecting the minimum wins needed to earn a slot in the Insight Bowl in Tempe, Arizona.

Their bragging rights would be slender. Every year, 70 of Division I football's 120 teams get bowl invitations, making faceless games like the Insight akin to summer camp participation awards. Minnesota would face Iowa State, another 6-6 team from the Big 12. The teams were charged with providing three hours of TV programming for hard-core fans and shut-ins just before New Year's. The ratings would be measured in decimal points.

But within the Minnesota football offices in Minneapolis, there was cause for celebration, however muted. Though the game orbited well outside the realm of consequence, it was still a chance to reward players, boast to recruits, liquor up boosters and feed a small army of university suits with a paid vacation in the Arizona sun.

The accounting office no doubt held a much different view. It surely knew that, like nearly all bowls, the Insight was designed to plunder all it could from the college treasury.

The bloodbath began the moment the contract was signed. Minnesota was obligated to write a check for 10,000 tickets, which were supposed to be resold to fans. Never mind that even the best teams struggle to unload such sums. For middling squads like the Gophers, it was nothing more than a way for the men in funny yellow blazers who ran the Insight to grab piles of money from a public university.

Minnesota managed to sell just 901 seats. After kicking another 900 to the band, administrators and cherished hangers-on, the school was forced to eat $476,000 worth of useless tickets. The contract also required the team to show up a week early, if only to burn as much school money as possible at the restaurants and retailers of Greater Phoenix.

One would think school administrators would protest such gall. But one would be wrong. They were quick to see the advantages of a luxury vacation on the school's dime. So they happily signed off.

The school's traveling party was larded up with 722 people, including players, band members and faculty. Airfare alone ran $542,000. Toss in hotels and meals, and the school had blown $1.3 million before the opening kickoff.

The ballsiest part of all: None of it was remotely necessary.

Minnesota and Iowa State sit less than 200 miles apart. Their teams were providing the game; their bands would provide the halftime entertainment. In fact, the Insight offered nothing — save for warm weather — that the schools couldn't have done better themselves. Had the game been played in Minneapolis, the teams could have sold more tickets and put on a profitable game, as Big 10 matches typically generate $1 to $2 million — not knee-bending losses.

Yet none of this was ever considered. Thanks to an alliance of unblushing incompetence and corruption, college football long ago decided to outsource its most valuable asset: its postseason earnings. The scheme plays out each year on the ostensibly pristine fields of amateur athletics. Bowl executives grant themselves breathtaking salaries. The games, meanwhile, provide coaches, athletic directors and the suits who nominally supervise them with an unending stream of bonuses.

And everyone else picks up the tab.

It's five pages. Read the whole thing.
I still hate the idea of a "December Madness" style playoff tournament for college football. But I'm not opposed to a four team playoff. The BCS can keep their complex rating system to determine the top four teams in the country. Then there would only be three games to play. The whole thing would be over with in two weekends. Outside the top four, all the rest of the teams would be free to independently negotiate their own "exhibition" games (as mentioned in the article) with regional foes that would ease travel and expenses for the schools and the fanbases. The networks could bid to pick up the best of these matchups to air. Meanwhile, the non-televised games would be just like a regular season matchup, but optimized for the best financial result. The players would still get their post-season reward, and the taxpayers wouldn't be scammed for the benefit of the "insiders".
Example: Arkansas State won the Sun Belt and finished 10-2. But they have a poor fanbase that won't travel well to any bowl. Tulsa finished second in CUSA West and finished 8-4. They are the smallest D1A school in FBS and also have attendance problems. These two teams could work out a deal to play a post-season game in Fayetteville (very close and roughly equidistant between the two schools). Attendance would likely be high, and the schools could split the gate (after reimbursing the University of Arkansas for whatever costs are involved with hosting the game on their field). But it doesn't have to be a middle-neutral site. There would be no rules. The schools would be allowed to make the arrangements that suit them best.
The one thing I know for certain is that letting the Justice Department get involved would be the worst of all possible solutions. There is enough evidence in existence right now to put that whole lot of them away for life. They are cronies and criminals. With an agenda. They could only hurt college football (most likely that would be their intent, too).
 

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College football is a tax exempt racket built around bleeding the alumni, usually GOP voting dullards whose only "respectable" identity allowed is some college full of Marxists who hate them.
 

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Remember boys and girls, North Carolina's defense is "full of superstar affletes!" It's true because Todd McShay says so and all the ebony titans are listed on ESPNs crawler! Who can argue with that? Frankly, they are the best linebackers and d-linemen we've ever seen!! Bigger, stronger and faster!!!
 

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Remember boys and girls, North Carolina's defense is "full of superstar affletes!" It's true because Todd McShay says so and all the ebony titans are listed on ESPNs crawler! Who can argue with that? Frankly, they are the best linebackers and d-linemen we've ever seen!! Bigger, stronger and faster!!!

Yeah they've been hyping up NC's affletes for the last couple of years now.. Seriously getting annoying, one dwf had 2 or 3 NC players being taken in the 1st round. What a joke..
 

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I'm hoping NC State buries Louisville tonight. That would be a nice caste match-up victory. I'm looking forward to a couple of the Friday games as well. Hopefully Jeff Woody will get some carries for Iowa State and run all over that Rutgers defense.
 

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FYI, NC STATE won! Their d-line looked blacker, but Kuhn made some big plays. (LB) Audie Cole was huge - as usual - and saved STATE as well! :high5:
 

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Watching the Air Force - Toledo game. Air Force should be winning handily, but seem to be hampered by their black quarterback....
 

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Toledo is far more caste, but their black quarterback seems to be a little better than the AF black quarterback. A little more than 2 minutes to go in the game, Toledo ahead by a TD, AF driving in spite of the wild throws by black quarterback George Jefferson...
 

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As usual, Griffin completes all his passes to wide open receivers. I'm pretty sure no Baylor receiver has been covered all season long. Art Briles is a genius.
 

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A certain sack is turned into a touchdown as three Washington players tackle each other while going after Griffin. The legend of this fraud will continue to grow.
 

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He has put up some nice stats but yeah, his play isn't anything resembling a top 10 pick. Id say 3rd round at best. He has looked hesistant in the pocket as the game goes on and he gets hit more. He isn't that big, and will be getting hit by much bigger men in the NFL, he is what 6'1? Im not buying that he is 220. The quotoback on the other side has shown more ability in the pocket, watch him be the next hyped up black quarterback.

Baylor ran the same play 3 times on a 4 play drive and no one was near to stop it which got them easily into field goal position. I understand not wanting to give something over the top but you can afford to put a player over there on the right side of the field where they are dumping the ball off to.

both Holt and the black guy said they would take RGIII with the number 1 pick because "Vick and Newton have changed the position". What have those guys won? Usually teams copy what the previous Super Bowl winner was doing. Yes running qbs have had some success but haven't come close to changing anything. The best MOBILE qbs stay in the pocket and look to throw down field, like Aaron Rodgers. Drew Brees is great at moving around the pocket as well but not as fast as Rodgers to get to the outside. Tebow has had some success but I think the new prototype is like Jake Locker, who has looked very impressive, he uses his mobility to look down the field to throw it. Thows big gains that you get in college turn into 5 to 10 yard gains in the NFL while you could have bought time to throw to a guy 20+ yards down the field who could gain yards after the catch to make it even more. Guys like Vick, their running stats look good because half the time when they get sacked trying to scramble, it doesn't go against their running yards.

If I were the coach of either of these defenses, I would spend an enormous amount of time on fundamentals, such as tackling. Like Riddlewire mentioned above, that play should have been a sack. As the game has gone on he has gotten sacked and hit more, but 650 yards in a half is ridiculous. Chris Polk isn't some monster back that should be running through these tackles as well.
 
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Was that the "Onion version" of halftime? "RG3" isn't even a "great" runner!!

Because he doesn't have Newton's size, he'll get destroyed in the NFL. Take it to the bank!
 

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Im seriously trying to look at him with no bias, I still can't see a top qb. His deep ball has a lot of hang time, like Jeff Blake's "moon ball". That drive was zone read, zone read, zone read, pi on a ball that was going out of bounds, screen to the right (which has been moving the chains all night, you think they would sniff that out by now). I just don't see anything more than a 3rd round talent. He just doesn't have the tools you want to see in a top qb. Keith Price looked to have a better deep ball, and thats not saying much, not sure why the db slowed down to watch the ball while it was in the air giving the defender more seperation to get a td.

They are assuming he is a great runner because of what he did in track, it doesn't always translate into running in football.
 

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I have a prediction to make, and I hope I'm wrong on this.

I predict that by the time April rolls around, "RGIII" will have worked himself into the #1 overall pick, thanks in part to never-ending propaganda from BSPN, not to mention the usual assortment of clown draft experts, led with Kiper and McShay. It's the same way he won the Heismann after what was essentially a one-week campaign, and the same way Newton went from a high first rounder, to a top-10, to #1 overall in about 2 months.

In Newton's defense, he had a very good rookie year, so the pick is justified in hindsight. This RGIII is in no way an NFL QB, but the estabishment is foaming at the mouth with the possibility that a black quarterback has won the Heismann and will go #1 overall in back-to-back years.
 

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Chris Polk will fit in very well in the modern NFL game.
He's big, slow, and overrated.
 
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