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The Texans have a very good white receiving tight end, a very good white starting wide receiver, and another white receiver who may see the field a lot in the slot. This is Caste System blasphemy, though it's compensated for by an all-black defense.


And David Anderson, the slot receiver who is currently third or fourth on the depth chart, could always be waived by Houston again, as occurred several times in 2006 and 2007. Anderson was a record-breaking receiver at Colorado State who is Wes Welker sized and is even better running after the catch than Welker though not quite as quick. He had but 1 reception for Houston in '06 and 12 last year. For the moment he is ahead of Jacoby Jones, last year's rookie who instantly enthralled the media and the drunk white fans but who turns out not to be very good (in Caste System-ese he's still "raw" and a "project"). But being black Jones is filled with potential while Anderson is a hard-working overachiever whose standing is always tentative, especially with the presence of Kevin Walter on the team.


Walter, to the embarrassment of white fans everywhere, held off Jones, Andre Davis and all other comers to earn the number two starting job at receiver in '07 and responded with 65/800/4. Before that he had been used almost exclusively as a White Special Teams Demon by the Bengals, and before that he was released by the Giants.


Walter is tall, runs great routes and knows how to get open when the quarterback is pressured, and has excellent hands. He can be used as a possession receiver and as a deep threat. After being routinely dissed last year, Walter is now being compared to Ed McCaffrey, quite a compliment even keeping in mind the ironclad racist rule that white receivers can only be compared to other white receivers.


Starting quarterback Matt Schaub, now in his fifth season after being drafted by Atlanta and sitting behind Michael Vick for three years, started for Houston in '07 and looked very good, though the Texans' eternally bad offensive line allowed Schaub to get pummeled and eventually injured. If he can stay healthy Schaub will be a solid producer for many years, possibly even an elite one.


Sage Rosenfels backs up Schaub. The 8 year veteran out of Iowa State looked very capable replacing an injured (and at times benched) Schaub last season.


Houston has a white troika at tight end, led by Owen Daniels. The former Wisconsin great kept improving his first two seasons in the league and is widely predicted to become among the best at his position at 2008 even though the Texans stumbled out of the gate in the season opener against Pittsburgh. Daniels has soft hands and knows how to run after the catch.


The backup TEs are ageless Mark Bruener and Joel Dreessen. Bruener, in his 14th season in the NFL, is perhaps the best blocker at his position in the league.


There are three white starters on the line -- Chris Myers out of Miami is the center; Mike Brisiel is the right guard; and Eric Winston, another former Hurricane, starts at right tackle.


Kasey Studdard is a backup guard.


There are only two white defensive players on the roster, both backups. Tackle Jeff Zgonina, like Mark Bruener, is another ageless wonder, entering his 16th NFL campaign. Houston is Zgonina's seventh team following stints with Pittsburgh, Carolina, St. Louis, Atlanta, Indianapolis, St. Louis again, and Miami.


Fourth year tackle Tim Bulman has been released several times by both Arizona and Houston without seeing much action.


NUMBER OF WHITE STARTERS: 6


APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF WHITE PLAYERS ON 53 MAN ROSTER: 16


GRADE: D-
 

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Andre Johnson, who's widely praised as the most talented wide receiver in the league, dropped three touchdown passes last game. Three!!! But guess who's taking all the heat? Matt Schaub, who besides having a "star" receiver with hands of cement, is also the beneficiary of Houston's annual terrible pass protection. Many of the drunk white fans are clamoring for Sage Rosenfels, and the clamor is sure to become a roar if the Texans offense looks bad on Sunday against Jacksonville.
 

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Is Duane Brown a bust?


From Jake Long vs. Mario Williams pregame article
By comparison, Houston's Duane Brown, a fellow rookie left tackle who was taken late in the first round, has given up the bulk of the Texans' 10 sacks. In Houston's regular-season opener he gave up three sacks to outside linebacker James Harrison, Joey Porter's replacement in Pittsburgh.

[url]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl -flspdolphins12sboct12,0,1845743.story [/url]


I can't support a team that drafts another overrated, properly-pigmented OT, in the 1st Round.

During the draft, even Caste-shills like McShay said Duane Brown is a "project" and he may have hinted that the Texans' reached with this pick. I reckon that he flat-out said that Duane Brown shouldn't immediately be thrown in at left tackle in this league because he isn't ready (i.e. which is why he was labeled a project).

One can only imagine what made him a 1st Round pick... Any takers willing to try and figure out this mystery? If Mr. Brown was White, ESPN would be piling-on right about now.
 

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It's gotta be just as much a mystery that he's still starting. Matt Schaub has a lot of talent but he's not the most durable quarterback in the league. If you have a lineman who's responsible for the majority of the team's sacks, let the "project" learn from the bench until he's ready. Contrast Brown with all the white players who come in the league, esp. receivers and defensive players,and are forced to be backups for years whether they're ready to start or not.
 

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Texans add Dan Bazuin to practice squad. Hopefully he'll make the team before seasons end. Hate to see a white high round defensive draft pick fall by the wayside as they are so rare as it is.
 

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Despite having the much-hyped Mario Williams, Okoye and DeMeco Ryans -- Houston got torched by JaMarcus, Fargas and Zach Miller.

If I'm not mistaken, the Texans' drafted all blacks in this past draft. If they do that again this year, I would in no way consider them a "taboo" team. They'll probably go all black again.
 

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I just wanted to post some appreciation for the Texans this year. When was the last time you saw an NFL team line up two white wide receivers on the field? Perhaps McCaffrey and McGriff very occasionaly for Denver some time ago. Or maybe Looker and Proehl once or twice at St Louis. Anderson has been getting quite a lot of playing time this year. They also have three white tight ends. By the standards of todays NFL this is adventurous behaviour.
 

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The most recent example of two white WRs playing alot on the same team together was Eddie Berlin and Drew Bennett in Tennessee. The lightning quick Berlin went on to get cut by the Bears...you know, the team with the worst WR corps in NFL history.
 

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David Anderson could be a very good "Wes Welker type" slot receiver for a smart, "adventurous" team. It's unlikely he'll ever get much action with the Texans given the presence of over-targeted Andre Johnson, Walter and Daniels.


All season long, just about every time Anderson made a catch, especially a good one, the announcers never failed to act surprised, even stunned. One can imagine thedepth chart/script they work from during the game: "Andre Johnson, the new best receiver in the NFL; Kevin Walter, the gritty overachiever; Owen Daniels, the rising star at tight end; and David somebody, a ridiculous overachiever who shouldn't be mentioned unless it's absolutely unavoidable, and then only with thelamest ofcliches."
 
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The Texans have signed backup Toronto Argonauts OT Cliff Washburn from the CFL. He is black.

This is a blatant sign of a caste system in the NFL when black CFL backups get signed and white standouts are routinely ignored.
 

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TorontoArgos said:
The Texans have signed backup Toronto Argonauts OT Cliff Washburn from the CFL. He is black.

This is a blatant sign of a caste system in the NFL when black CFL backups get signed and white standouts are routinely ignored.

The Eagles made some similar signings recently. I had no idea it was common practice for NFL teams to raid the CFL for mediocre black athletes. What are Tre Smith and Jesse Lumsden up to these days, I wonder?
 
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PhillyBirds said:
TorontoArgos said:
The Texans have signed backup Toronto Argonauts OT Cliff Washburn from the CFL. He is black.

This is a blatant sign of a caste system in the NFL when black CFL backups get signed and white standouts are routinely ignored.

The Eagles made some similar signings recently. I had no idea it was common practice for NFL teams to raid the CFL for mediocre black athletes. What are Tre Smith and Jesse Lumsden up to these days, I wonder?
Tre Smith finished last season third on Hamilton's depth chart behind Jesse and Terry Caulley. With Jesse injured, Calley saw most of the carries late in the season.

http://cfl.ca/statistics/league/stat/Rushing/year/2008/

The Eagles signed CB Byron Parker and DE Charleston Hughes. Unlike Cliff Washburn, these guys are both great football players.
 

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Thanks, Toronto. I didn't initially look at the credentials of the Eagles' signings, but now that I do there are some impressive stats there.
 

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speaking of Canadian signings, didn't the Eagles sign a 5-6 midget kick returner?

meanwhile, white players who are between 5-10 and 6-1 are too short...
 
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Jimmy Chitwood said:
speaking of Canadian signings, didn't the Eagles sign a 5-6 midget kick returner?

meanwhile, white players who are between 5-10 and 6-1 are too short...
It was the Redskins who signed Dominique Dorsey who's 5'7 170. He's an incredible football player but yea u make a good argument about the whites being too small.

Dorsey won the CFL Special Teams Player of the Year award.
 

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Yeah, but if Dorsey is getting a shot; you would think 5'7 WR with freakish speed and agility, Weston Dressler would get a shot. Dressler runs a 4.35-4.4 40 yard dash and 10.4x 100 meter. Dressler was good enough as a rookie to win CFL rookie of the year in the CFL, which shows he should probably be playing in the NFL.

And after watching Dressler there is no doubt in my mind he has the talent to be a great slot man; and also a guy they can send deep or pitch the ball to a bit in the backfield in the NFL.
 
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ToughJ.Riggins said:
Yeah, but if Dorsey is getting a shot; you would think 5'7 WR with freakish speed and agility, Weston Dressler would get a shot. Dressler runs a 4.35-4.4 40 yard dash and 10.4x 100 meter. Dressler was good enough as a rookie to win CFL rookie of the year in the CFL, which shows he should probably be playing in the NFL.

And after watching Dressler there is no doubt in my mind he has the talent to be a great slot man; and also a guy they can send deep or pitch the ball to a bit in the backfield in the NFL.
No doubt Dressler could start in the NFL.

Also, the Steelers signed RB Stefan Logan who is 5'7 that might have been who Jimmy was thinking of. But he had a 7.3 YPC in the CFL.

Still Jesse Lumsden had a 6.7 YPC you think he'd deserve a proper chance being 40 pounds heavier and probably faster in the 40.
 

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thanks for the correction, TorontoArgos.
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yes, it's "funny" how these black players are big enough, but whites who are the same size (and bigger) are too small. even when the white players are faster, and often more productive.
 

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TorontoArgos said:
ToughJ.Riggins said:
Yeah, but if Dorsey is getting a shot; you would think 5'7 WR with freakish speed and agility, Weston Dressler would get a shot. Dressler runs a 4.35-4.4 40 yard dash and 10.4x 100 meter. Dressler was good enough as a rookie to win CFL rookie of the year in the CFL, which shows he should probably be playing in the NFL.

And after watching Dressler there is no doubt in my mind he has the talent to be a great slot man; and also a guy they can send deep or pitch the ball to a bit in the backfield in the NFL.
No doubt Dressler could start in the NFL.

Also, the Steelers signed RB Stefan Logan who is 5'7 that might have been who Jimmy was thinking of. But he had a 7.3 YPC in the CFL.

Still Jesse Lumsden had a 6.7 YPC you think he'd deserve a proper chance being 40 pounds heavier and probably faster in the 40.

Don't forget that Lumsden had a 7.6 YPC average with more total yards last season than this. He actually had a ridiculous 9 YPC average at mid-season '07 before his shoulder started acting up.
 
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