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Its incredible the number of gay serial killers and how the media never reports that angle. In this particular case though I feel its almost entirely false.

Every recording they have of Aaron Hernandez on the subject he sounds disgusted by the men prancing around trying to be girls. He is always talking about chicks and has a wife, who clearly knows that its not true. That used car salesman of a QB and his dad look coached and completely full of it.

They state he was molested by a babysitter and that he hated what that did to his sexuality. Now this sounds completely believable and sadly happens. Its the reason they normalize pedophilia with drag queen story time, kuds in gay pride parades, and men going into girls bathrooms and locker rooms.

Its sounds good, except for the fact that they are ((( liars))) and want to push an agenda. Hernandez's father was a big tough loose cannon that was obsessed with his sons. What kind of person would get access to babysit his child and not know that he would be killed?

I know they would say this before watching it because they like to promote race mixing, homosexuality, drug use etc. For the same reason you know there will be a homo, coal-burner, degenerate, highly functioning druggy, and honorable jewish man appear in nearly every single movie that they produce.

Anyways long rant over, I could ramble on about the documentary for days but would end up derailing the thread.
 

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Bucky, I share your opinion that Hernandez's classmate was lying his head off just for his few minutes of notoriety along with his dad. If he was gay there would have been more than the qb on the team and the whole school would have known it because of this queer bragging about him having sex with the star player. Getting your tube cleaned out relieves the tension and calm you down for a period of time. Keep in my mind this depends on wheater you are getting or giving how you are perceived in prison.
 

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Eli announced his retirement yesterday, it's been a long time coming. It seems like the "experts' have Eli as a lock for the hall of fame, he's not one IMO, but I don't vote. Anyway let the hall of fame debate begin.....https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28540028/eli-manning-retires-16-nfl-seasons
Name recognition helps his case but mostly beating the undefeated Pats in the SB. Actually, beating the Pats twice in the SB probably helps his case in the eyes of the voters.
 

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Johnny U hits the nail on the head. His run through the playoffs and defeating two tough Patriot teams in the SB including beating their undefeated team is what gives Eli his HOF momentum.

Then there are people like White is right who note his mediocre regular season record which is around a .500 inning percentage. Talk about a schizophrenic situation?

One expert said thinking could change in five years and that one can't predict which way the wind will blow by then? Have to admit those Eli Giants teams were pretty damn caste and I couldn't stand them and was pissed when they beat the Pats in the SB not once but twice. Especially when they knocked them off during their undefeated season denying players like WR Welker of a SB ring.

The Giants defense stumped the Pats that game ( including the clutch play by Eli) but I always felt if that game lasted a bit longer the Pats would have found a way because Brady and the gang were finally figuring things out but time ran out.
 

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A lot of fans (Giants and general NFL fans) might be getting "nostalgic" regarding Eli, but I've pretty much tuned out the Giants every week since 2004? So what is their to get "nostalgic" about? The few times each year I watched a Giants game was to root for the other team. In Eli's 16 years, only time I cared about the Giants was when Peyton Hillis briefly played for them in 2013, then a bit in 2014. During Eli's entire career have the Giants even had one notable white defensive player or wide receiver? Best white defender I can think of is Chase Blackburn and he was mostly a spot starter and special teams mascot? They had a talented, white rookie linebacker last season from Wisconsin that I tracked, but he suffered a ACL injury.

I was not sure if Eli ever had a completion to a white wide receiver?

I looked it up and Brandon Stokley had 1 reception for 7 yards for the Giants in 2011, I guess that might've been the only one in 16 years? In 2015, an undrafted white rookie from Richmond named Ben Edwards made his debut with the Giants and caught 1 ball for 9 yards, but that spiral came from his backup that night (Nassib) I believe? In 2017 the Giants had another undrafted goy at receiver named Ed Eagan, he played in 4 games, but only returned 4 punts and covered kicks. Eagan, who probably only got that brief shot with the Giants due to his friendship with fellow New Orleans area native Odell Beckham, recently signed with the D.C. Defenders of the XFL, likely replacing Max McCaffrey who apparently has decided not to play in the league?

Not blaming Eli for the lack of white receivers, that's on the front office's. Just saying I barely ever watched him (or his team) the last 16 years. So to me, it's almost like he barely existed in comparison to someone like Brady who I've watched play full games (or close to full) well over 100 times? Or even his brother Peyton, who teams (Colts, Broncos) seemed much less hostile to whites than the Giants. Whether he makes the Hall of Fame or not is irrelevant to me, but I think his two Super Bowl wins get him in.
 

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Well put.

For the most part the Giants have been a black hole for ages. Yes there was the CB Jason Sehorn era (2002-2007) but Jason missed an entire season in his prime after tearing an ACL on a damn kick return. TE Jeremy Shockey (2002-2007) couldn't replace Jason but he was very athletic but over time things got nuts with him and the team. Keep in mind Jason played for heavily caste Giants teams but because he was such player of great symbolic importance I found myself leaning in their direction.

Only recently has there been any spark of hope with athletic and supremely talented QB Daniel Jones who had to dodge the hell fire that came down on him from the national and NY media when he was drafted. They drafted productive LB Ryan Connelly and just when he was hitting his stride he suffered a non contact ACL injury early in the season.

Unlike the past represented by the black hole Eli teams there are a few spots of optimism but if they revert to their usual caste drafting patterns then the Giants will likely once again fall on the wrong side of the ledger here at CF despite the presence of Daniel Jones.
 

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The two Super Bowl wins, both remembered for brilliant individual plays by Manning to David Tyree and Mario Manningham, along with being in the top ten all-time in many important career QB passing marks will get Eli in. Playing in New York helps also. He wasn't nearly as great as Peyton but still Hall worthy, though likely not in his first year of eligibility.
 

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It should be Jace Sternberger time next year in Green Bay: "Green Bay Packers TE Jimmy Graham is expected to be released during the offseason, in the opinion of The Green Bay Press-Gazette's Pete Dougherty, who called the prospective move a 'given.'"

If he stays healthy, Sternberger should be a star in the league by 2021. Aaron Rodgers should love him, given what little he currently has to work with in the passing game.

 

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It should be Jace Sternberger time next year in Green Bay: "Green Bay Packers TE Jimmy Graham is expected to be released during the offseason, in the opinion of The Green Bay Press-Gazette's Pete Dougherty, who called the prospective move a 'given.'"

If he stays healthy, Sternberger should be a star in the league by 2021. Aaron Rodgers should love him, given what little he currently has to work with in the passing game.


Sure hope so. Sternberger came on strong late for The Packers, showed some potential and he was a beast at A&M. Like Shadowlight has said before. Run this man on Seam routes all day!

Veteran slowpoke Marcedes Lewis should be gone as well and Robert Tonyan is a Free Agent so all signs point to Sternberger as The Man at TE!
 

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Guys we haven't been updating the Antonio Brown drama, every day is a new story and it seems to be getting worse daily. The best news I have heard is forced to visit a head shrinker and there is no way he could pass that exam. Here's the latest and notice the dramatic bullet proof vest...https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28554043/antonio-brown-released-posting-110k-bond

PS, if he is committed he could be an avid participant in this game......
 

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This will be an interesting FA Class in 2020:

OL
Anthony Castanzo
Jack Conklin
Bryan Bulaga
Jared Veldheer
Brandon Scherff
Joe Thuney
Graham Glasgow
Andrew Whitworth
Connor McGovern
Ted Karras

**Lot of good Veteran OL available

QB
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Ryan Tannehill
Philip Rivers

**Star Studded QB Class

TE/WR
Austin Hooper
Hunter Henry
Tyler Eifert
Danny Amendola
Robert Tonyan

**Henry and Hooper next crop of great TEs

Defense
Blake Martinez
Joe Schobert
Derek Wolfe
Kyler Fackrell
Carl Nassib
AJ Klein
Nick Kwiatkowski

** Just hope Martinez, Schobert, and Fackrell wind up somewhere they are appreciated. Wolfe has silently been one of the best DL in the game last several years. Nassib has shined when given a chance.
 
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This will be an interesting FA Class in 2020:

OL
Anthony Castanzo
Jack Conklin
Bryan Bulaga
Jared Veldheer
Brandon Scherff
Joe Thuney
Graham Glasgow
Andrew Whitworth
Connor McGovern
Ted Karras

**Lot of good Veteran OL available

QB
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Ryan Tannehill
Philip Rivers

**Star Studded QB Class

TE/WR
Austin Hooper
Hunter Henry
Tyler Eifert
Danny Amendola
Robert Tonyan

**Henry and Hooper next crop of great TEs

Defense
Blake Martinez
Joe Schobert
Derek Wolfe
Kyler Fackrell
Carl Nassib
AJ Klein

** Just hope Martinez, Schobert, and Fackrell wind up somewhere they are appreciated. Wolfe has silently been one of the best DL in the game last several years. Nassib has shined when given a chance.

The sad thing is some of these guys will just go unsigned or signed to team friendly short term contracts even though they have all proven they are very good players while all the blackies who have yet to fulfill their "upside" will be overpaid and disappoint.
 

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LB Nick Kwiatkoski is also a free agent.

There's some serious White FA talent available on both sides of the ball, a lot more than usual. Just hope most of them shop around instead of doing the usual "White thing" and giving a "hometown discount" by signing with their current teams for less than they're worth.
 

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Guys we haven't been updating the Antonio Brown drama, every day is a new story and it seems to be getting worse daily. The best news I have heard is forced to visit a head shrinker and there is no way he could pass that exam. Here's the latest and notice the dramatic bullet proof vest...https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28554043/antonio-brown-released-posting-110k-bond

PS, if he is committed he could be an avid participant in this game......
That ain’t no ballistic vest, that’s a “turtle suit” for inmates on suicide watch.
 

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Antonio Brown was bailed out by Ira Judelson self-proclaimed "bailbondsman to the stars". Same guy also bailed out Harvey Weinstein. He called into The Fan with Boomer and Gio , they almost didn't put him on.
 

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Antonio Brown was bailed out by Ira Judelson self-proclaimed "bailbondsman to the stars". Same guy also bailed out Harvey Weinstein. He called into The Fan with Boomer and Gio , they almost didn't put him on.
Wow, that name is so overtly jewy that it seems like something out of Der Stürmer. Hahaha.
 

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This is a little off the subject but just imagine if this sprinter from South Africa was a running back? He is 6'4 and 230 lbs. Emile Erasmus runs the 100 meters in 10.01 legal time. The
kid would lead the nfl in rushing so easily if he stayed healthy. Think Bo Jackson/Herschel Walker but even faster than both with size to also run over people? It's fun to dream? :)

https://rekordeast.co.za/201006/tuks-sprinter-make-athletics-history-saturday/
 

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This is a little off the subject but just imagine if this sprinter from South Africa was a running back? He is 6'4 and 230 lbs. Emile Erasmus runs the 100 meters in 10.01 legal time. The
kid would lead the nfl in rushing so easily if he stayed healthy. Think Bo Jackson/Herschel Walker but even faster than both with size to also run over people? It's fun to dream? :)

https://rekordeast.co.za/201006/tuks-sprinter-make-athletics-history-saturday/
I could see him lighting it up at the college levels only for the scouting report to say "size, production and timed speed is enough to warrant a trip to the film, but his tightly-bound, muscular frame lacks the agility and burst needed to survive and thrive as an NFL lead runner. He may need to rebrand as a more violent downhill runner in order to take advantage of his strengths and minimize his areas of concern. NFL teams may look to transition him to fullback in camp."
 

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I could see him lighting it up at the college levels only for the scouting report to say "size, production and timed speed is enough to warrant a trip to the film, but his tightly-bound, muscular frame lacks the agility and burst needed to survive and thrive as an NFL lead runner. He may need to rebrand as a more violent downhill runner in order to take advantage of his strengths and minimize his areas of concern. NFL teams may look to transition him to fullback in camp."

Lol yup was thinking the same, if Emile was an American growing up playing football he'd be asked to bulk up another 25lbs to become a TE or DE. He's quite the physical specimen though as WL pointed out!
 

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Lol yup was thinking the same, if Emile was an American growing up playing football he'd be asked to bulk up another 25lbs to become a TE or DE. He's quite the physical specimen though as WL pointed out!
Ha yea tight end seems about right for his height. I was going to make my own fake analysis but I just copied and pasted the draft analysis for Dominick Bragalone. I wasn't paying attention to drafts the last few years but man this kid got screwed out of high school, dominated the FCS level and got screwed again. 233 pounds with 4.4 speed. In high school he ran a 10.9 100m. For reference Emile ran a 10.7 at 19. Hopefully he can get a shot in the XFL
 

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Ha yea tight end seems about right for his height. I was going to make my own fake analysis but I just copied and pasted the draft analysis for Dominick Bragalone. I wasn't paying attention to drafts the last few years but man this kid got screwed out of high school, dominated the FCS level and got screwed again. 233 pounds with 4.4 speed. In high school he ran a 10.9 100m. For reference Emile ran a 10.7 at 19. Hopefully he can get a shot in the XFL

Too funny, what a predictable write up for a White Power Back. Ya Bragalone would be a load if allowed.. Is he on an XFL Roster?
 

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MSN had an article about Teddy Bridge- Over Troubled- water not resigning with the Saints. Leaving Taysom Hill to back up or take over the starting role.

This is clearly a trap, to be a circus act for a couple more years. However, its not like he has any real options in this crooked league. Damned if you do, damned if you dont. Best of luck Taysom Hill.
 

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MSN had an article about Teddy Bridge- Over Troubled- water not resigning with the Saints. Leaving Taysom Hill to back up or take over the starting role.

This is clearly a trap, to be a circus act for a couple more years. However, its not like he has any real options in this crooked league. Damned if you do, damned if you dont. Best of luck Taysom Hill.

A lot of mock drafts have the Saints drafting "upsider" Jordan Love so I don't see Taysom Hill being a starter any time soon.
 

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The continued Jordan Love hype is beyond nauseating. Very overrated. I've seen several mock drafts where he's still going in 1st/2nd Rd area. Common landing spot I've seen him mocked to is Indianapolis early 2nd.
 
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