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Sometimes life imitates art.

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Here's one for nostalgia fans! Clarence "Screaming Buffalo"
Swamptown!

I'll never forget an interview I did with him years ago,

when Buffalo revealed he liked to call his hockey stick "The Big
Tomahawk".

He usually refers to opposing players as "The Little Scalps".
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Iguess Simon being part Indian didn't help him out this time around, as it did when the vitriol against him when he used the N-word a few years ago was softened somewhat.


At any rate I notice that once again the corporate media is giving this incident lots of coverage, just as happened with the recentBuffalo-Ottawa brawl. The media isn't interested in the NHL unless it's something negative that can be magnified and condemned. Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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At any rate I notice that once again the corporate media is giving this incident lots of coverage, just as happened with the recentBuffalo-Ottawa brawl. The media isn't interested in the NHL unless it's something negative that can be magnified and condemned.


Dan Patrick spent some time on the incident yesterday. An irate caller toldhimthe only time he ever speaks of hockey is to report on something negative -- which is true. Patrick than pulled a Limbaugh. That's when he goes on a rant and destroys an opponent while frequently mentioning his name, giving the impression he is still on the line when it's obvious the caller was cut-off long ago.
 
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I have played the game of hockey from the time I was seven all throughout college, and here is one thing that I have noticed about the game: Native players are to hockey what blacks are to football and basketball. Native players are known for their outlandish behavior, alcoholism, and drug abuse. Some other "native" players in the league (past and present) who are known for being problems both on and off the ice, are as follows:

Andrew Peters (Buffalo enforcer)
Sandy McCarthy (not sure where he is now, but he has
proved himself out to be an utter and
total scumbag throughout his entire
career)
Gino Odgick (ex'Canuck player known for hot temper and
extreme on-ice violence)
Jordin Tootoo (Nashville player with violent temper
who's brother committed
sucide a few years back because of
'personal problems')
Sheldon Souray (Montreal Canadiens enforcer and
local on/off ice troublemaker)
Darcy Tucker (Toronto Maple Leaf's cheap shot artist and
dirt bag-extroidanaire)
Theo Fleury (5'6" coke-head troublemaker with "Napolean
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Howdy Ground Fighter!

Excellent analysis, thanks for informing us about our wonderful "Natives."

Just this very evening, Mr. Tootoo has participated in an "Ugly Incident," to use the words of CBC.CA. Seems he sucker-punched defenseman Robidas of Dallas, sending him off on a stretcher.
 

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comon man i'm from MTL and Sourray is NOT an enforcer or local on and off trouble maker man just no.
And Gino Odjick was a great fighter but he was gentle like no one!
 

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sure when he played to MTL, he was the first to sign autograph and the last to quit. He give money to fondation. He was a great guy.
 

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I really dont know too much about native americans. The only time I've ever seen any was at the Miccosukee Indian gaming resort here is South Florida, and there was this substitute teacher at my high school who was an Indian (he wore feathers and everything) who would tell us stories. What are their behavioral traits? are they anything like blacks? are they a model minority like asians, or are they more along the more problematic groups?
 
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Lance Alworth said:
I really dont know too much about native americans. The only time I've ever seen any was at the Miccosukee Indian gaming resort here is South Florida, and there was this substitute teacher at my high school who was an Indian (he wore feathers and everything) who would tell us stories. What are their behavioral traits? are they anything like blacks? are they a model minority like asians, or are they more along the more problematic groups?

I'm glad you asked this question Lance, and I shall be glad to shed some light on it for you. The Native people have a gene in their DNA that makes them predisposed to alcoholism, which is a main contributer to their often times violent and uncontrollable behavior. And you also have to remember that when we found these people on this continent a few hundred years ago, they were still running around in animal skin and scalping their enemies for sport. In other words, they are "savages" to begin with (no pun intended). To be honest, not much has changed since then.

But one thing that I have noticed is that there is a slight difference in the Native peoples who live in the U.S. and the ones from Canada. For instance, the Navajo Nation reservation in Arizona is like Compton, California when it comes to gang violence. The youth among these particular tribes have somewhat adopted the "black urban lifestyle", and crime and gang-life are so bad there, that many Native residents stay in their homes as much as possible.

Now, on the other hand, the Native peopels from Canada and further north tend to be more like their forefathers, and do such things as hunt, fish, etc. Also, some of the Natives from the North don't like blacks very much. There have been a few incidents in the NHL where Native players have gone after black players physically and used racial epithets as well. Chris Simon went after Mike Grier a few years back, and called him a "big monkey" and then the "N-bomb". The incident supposodly started when Grier insulted Simon's Native ethnicity. The league actually suspended Simon for the incident, and even fined him a few thousand dollars for it. But, of course, nothing happened to the black player who initiated the racial incident in the first place. lol Even the Natives get in hot water when they insult the bruthas.
 

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Ground Fighter said:
Lance Alworth said:
I really dont know too much about native americans. The only time I've ever seen any was at the Miccosukee Indian gaming resort here is South Florida, and there was this substitute teacher at my high school who was an Indian (he wore feathers and everything) who would tell us stories. What are their behavioral traits? are they anything like blacks? are they a model minority like asians, or are they more along the more problematic groups?

I'm glad you asked this question Lance, and I shall be glad to shed some light on it for you. The Native people have a gene in their DNA that makes them predisposed to alcoholism, which is a main contributer to their often times violent and uncontrollable behavior. And you also have to remember that when we found these people on this continent a few hundred years ago, they were still running around in animal skin and scalping their enemies for sport. In other words, they are "savages" to begin with (no pun intended). To be honest, not much has changed since then.

But one thing that I have noticed is that there is a slight difference in the Native peoples who live in the U.S. and the ones from Canada. For instance, the Navajo Nation reservation in Arizona is like Compton, California when it comes to gang violence. The youth among these particular tribes have somewhat adopted the "black urban lifestyle", and crime and gang-life are so bad there, that many Native residents stay in their homes as much as possible.

Now, on the other hand, the Native peopels from Canada and further north tend to be more like their forefathers, and do such things as hunt, fish, etc. Also, some of the Natives from the North don't like blacks very much. There have been a few incidents in the NHL where Native players have gone after black players physically and used racial epithets as well. Chris Simon went after Mike Grier a few years back, and called him a "big monkey" and then the "N-bomb". The incident supposodly started when Grier insulted Simon's Native ethnicity. The league actually suspended Simon for the incident, and even fined him a few thousand dollars for it. But, of course, nothing happened to the black player who initiated the racial incident in the first place. lol Even the Natives get in hot water when they insult the bruthas.

Great post! another question I have is that do you think there are any different behavioral patterns between Indians from the US and Canada as opposed to Indians from Mexico/Puerto Rico and the rest of Latin America?
 
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Native Americans eat urinal cakes to get high, have the highest rates of depression and meth addiction in America. You tell me.

Fleury's native american? Thought he was just to use a PC term "White trash."Edited by: Baseball Fan
 
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Fleury's native american? Thought he was just to use a PC term "White trash."

Oh, he's Native alright. With a drug problem like the one that he has, how could he not be? lol. Here's my source:

http://www.nativehockey.com/players/nhl/fleury.htmlEdited by: Ground Fighter
 

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I really dont know too much about native americans. The only time I've ever seen any was at the Miccosukee Indian gaming resort here is South Florida, and there was this substitute teacher at my high school who was an Indian (he wore feathers and everything) who would tell us stories. What are their behavioral traits? are they anything like blacks? are they a model minority like asians, or are they more along the more problematic groups?
I wouldn't consider them model minorities, but they are slightly better than their southern counterparts.

They value their family,tradition, and culture. However, all of them are mixed to some varying degree. Just look at what passes for Indians these days. You will see that most of them look white.

The ones I lived by never had a real job in their life. They basically lived off casino money and did whatever work had to be done on the reservation.
 

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Some really nasty thug play in last night's Sharks-Preds game. Preds were getting beaten in hockey play, so they turned the game into a melee. Just like the Flyers used to do. Brawl hockey, like it was in the 1970s, is certainly not dead. Sharks better get their fighting togs back on or the dirty Preds will win the series. Tootoo and friends make some shockingly dirty hits

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Realgeorge said:
Some really nasty thug play in last night's Sharks-Preds game. Preds were getting beaten in hockey play, so they turned the game into a melee. Just like the Flyers used to do. Brawl hockey, like it was in the 1970s, is certainly not dead. Sharks better get their fighting togs back on or the dirty Preds will win the series. Tootoo and friends make some shockingly dirty hits

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I didn't get a chance to see the game. I hope my boy Brian Marchment put Jordin Tootoo in his place with some nasty hits. Marchment usually handles business when it comes to dirty minority players, especially when it comes to a particular scumbag named Donald Brashear. You can find numerous video clips of Mr. Marchment mangling Mr. Brashear on youtube.
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Sheldon Souray (Montreal Canadiens enforcer and
local on/off ice troublemaker)
I'd hardly call one of the top goal-scoring defensemen in the NHL an enforcer and on-ice troublemaker.
 

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Baseball Fan said:
Fleury's native american? Thought he was just to use a PC term "White trash."

Oh, he's Native alright. With a drug problem like the one that he has, how could he not be? lol. Here's my source:

http://www.nativehockey.com/players/nhl/fleury.html
He is Metis. He is probably about 7/8ths French and 1/8 aboriginal. Many Western Canadians with French surnames are Metis. It's true like black hockey players a large percentage of native players are goons. But they have tended to be my favourite goons...
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Maybe it's my love for Slapshot....
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Simon Banned 30 Games

By IRA PODELL - 46 minutes ago
UNIONDALE, N.Y. (AP)  To his coach and teammates, Chris Simon isn't the stick-swinging, skate-stomping fiend outsiders view him to be.

To the NHL, he is an out of control enforcer who keeps pushing the league to never before seen heights of discipline.

The New York Islanders forward was hit with a 30-game suspension Wednesday, breaking the mark of 25 he set in March with a ban that stretched into this season.

Simon, on a leave of absence from the team following the Saturday night dustup with Pittsburgh's Jarkko Ruutu, will miss more than a third of the season and can't return until Feb. 21 against Tampa Bay.

"Chris is a good, solid guy," teammate Bryan Berard said. "He does have that switch where he can snap, and I think that's why he's been in the league for so long. It's a tough sport."

The 35-year-old player left the Islanders on Monday to receive counseling, then met with league disciplinarian Colin Campbell on Tuesday. Campbell had said Simon would receive drug and alcohol treatment, but the NHL later clarified that Simon's treatment simply will take place under the auspices of the league and union's substance abuse and behavioral program.

Counseling details are kept confidential. Islanders spokesman Chris Botta confirmed drugs and alcohol are "not the issue."

"The doctors who oversee the substance abuse aspect of the joint NHL/NHLPA program also oversee the aspect of behavioral health," league spokesman Frank Brown said. "It would be improper to draw any inference as to whatever treatment or counseling they may be providing."

Campbell said the seven prior suspensions in Simon's 15-season NHL career have not been a deterrent.

"I am hoping both the 30 games ... and the actual help he's going to get and counseling he's going to get ... will help Chris and deal with the problem he has," Campbell added.

The first game of the ban was Wednesday night when the Islanders faced the Buffalo Sabres.

"It's excessive," coach Ted Nolan said. "The league suspended him ... now we have to support Chris while he goes through this process."

With 5:54 left in New York's 3-2 loss to Pittsburgh on Saturday, Simon drew a match penalty when he pulled out Ruutu's leg with his, sending the forward to his knees between the benches. Simon then stomped on the skate of Ruutu, who wasn't seriously injured.

"It's a lot of games, for sure," Sabres defenseman Toni Lydman said. "On the other hand, those kinds of plays should be disciplined and disciplined severely."

Simon was ejected and the Islanders were a man short for all but the final 54 seconds of the defeat.

"When I hear 30 games, I think that's a lot," Berard said. "I've seen worse things on the ice that have gotten a lot less games, especially now with the head injuries, guys hitting from behind and things like that, and guys getting two games. I'm sure it's a tough one to accept but Chris is a repeat offender."

On March 11, Simon was suspended 25 games  15 regular-season games, a five-game playoff series loss to Buffalo, and five games to open this season  for his two-handed stick attack to the face of Rangers forward Ryan Hollweg.

"We now had a greater responsibility in protecting players down the road on the ice that Chris was playing with," Campbell said. "Coaches and managers have said about Chris that he is a great guy  off the ice. Now we're concerned about what's next."

Although the leave of absence was announced before Campbell's decision, the NHL said Simon was instantly on indefinite suspension once the match penalty was assessed.

"It's not something that happened, like we always say a hockey play gone bad," Campbell said. "This was something totally away from the play and nothing to do with the game of hockey."

Simon met with Islanders owner Charles Wang, general manager Garth Snow and Nolan during practice Monday and they agreed he should seek help.

He was to be paid during his time away, but now with the suspension, Simon will forfeit $292,683, the league said. As a repeat offender, his salary is docked based on games missed as opposed to days in the season.

Simon was suspended five other times for violent on-ice acts and received a three-game ban in 1997 after directing a racial slur toward player Mike Grier, who is black.

During the 2000 playoffs, Simon, then with Washington, sat out a game after he cross-checked Penguins defenseman Peter Popovic across the throat.

In April 2001, Simon drew a two-game ban for elbowing Anders Eriksson of Florida. He was given a pair of two-game suspensions in 2004  for cross-checking Tampa Bay's Ruslan Fedotenko and then jumping on him and punching him, and for kneeing Dallas defenseman Sergei Zubov.

Simon also missed five preseason games in 1994 while with Quebec after he swung his stick at Ottawa's Dennis Vial, but missed. The indefinite suspension following that match penalty was interrupted by the NHL lockout, and Simon was allowed to return when play resumed in January 1995.

"When you play against somebody you have an image in your mind what kind of person that is," said Fedotenko, now with the Islanders. "When I've experienced him as a teammate, I think he was a great person and really calm.

"A nice, nice, nice guy."


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I see good ol' Clarence "Screaming Buffalo" Swamptown got suspended...AGAIN.
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Wow. Just wow. I knew this alcoholic jack-ass was going to do something stupid again THIS season. This waste-of-equipment has been a problem in the NHL since the day he entered the league. All he does is play dirty, as he doesn't even really "fight" that much anymore.

The guy is a bum. He needs to go play in Quebec's LNAH league with Link Gaetz and the rest of hockey's washed up losers. I just can't hate this clown enough.
 
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