arab influence in real madrid

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Marca is reporting that Mourinho will leave at the end of the season.

http://www.marca.com/2012/12/03/en/...3a059839bb14b22e0a7ec1b7d7cd93ab&t=1354560536

If this happens I think he'll go back to England. The way things are going there could be an opening at Man City.

in this article they give the reasons why florentino perez the president and mourinho the coach can no longer get along:

http://www.marca.com/2012/12/03/en/football/real_madrid/1354555553.html

one of them is related to benzema:

A new number 9. After the first year of the Mou era and with Higuaín recovering from a slipped disc, the coach demanded a number 9. Given the lack of funds, he recommended an affordable option: Hugo Almeida. We cannot print the president’s response here. In the end, Mourinho got his way with the arrival of Adebayor.

higuain was injuried so he should have played with benzema as main striker but he said that benzema was not what he needed:

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mourinho saying that playing with benzema is like going to hunt with a cat:

"If I can't hunt with a dog, I will hunt with a cat," he said. "With a dog you hunt more and you hunt better. But if you have not got a dog and you have got a cat, you hunt with a cat."Thing is, Mourinho did not want to hunt with a cat. "I know that making him play is the best thing I can do for Benzema; but is it the best thing for the team?" he asked. Another time, he moaned: "Karim's playing because I have got nothing else." Against Almería, Benzema didn't even play. He was left out of the starting XI, with Mourinho preferring to play Cristiano Ronaldo up front. "I have not got a striker," Mourinho said. "Yes you have," replied Jorge Valdano the club's director general after a costly draw, "he was sitting on the bench."


http://www.footytube.com/news/guardian/jose-mourinho-unleashes-his-kitten-of-war-karim-benzema-L6522

he asked for a new striker and all he got was adebayor because the president didn't want a good triker so that benzema wouldn't overshadowed
still, adebayor had the best goal scoring record of his pathetic "career" and he outscored benzema:

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i posted about how pellegrini was also fired because he didn't want to play with benzema as main striker
pellegrini is one of my favourite coaches
after being fired by real madrid, he made wonders with malaga, who are now one of the best teams in europe with very few money
 

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let's talk about paris saint germain a little bit
i was relatively happy about the club being bought by arab money last year because it meant that they would try to buy the best players in world football, which means either white europeans or south americans (a lot of them whites, some mixed, but they are talented at least)

but now i'm hearing things that i don't like

first, the logo of the club:

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when you are muslim, there are many things that you don't like on this logo:
first, the name "paris" is OK, but "saint germain" refers to christian history
then, at the bottom of the logo there is a reference to the christian history of france once again:












http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Germain-en-Laye

in the media there were rumours about the arab owners of the club trying to change the logo of the club

here's what the new logo would look like:

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the name "paris" would be emphasised at the expense of "saint germain"
the coat of arms of saint germain en laye would disappear
and the colour would change and become closer to the one of the hated club, marseille

on the new merchandise and on the player's training kit, the name "paris" was already emphasised at the expense of "saint germain"

PSG_SURVET_VESTE_FAN_D_AH445_1_440.jpg


then another thing i don't want to happen is an arab player to sign for PSG
i don't want a marketing player like benzema
i reported in this thread that benzema was openly said to be expected to sign for PSG because PSG want an arab/muslim player
other over-rated arab/muslim players that could be a target for PSG include ben arfa, nasri, taarabit from QPR
 

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Which team do the Arabs and blacks in the banlieues of Paris support?

As for Real Madrid they dropped two more points yesterday and I think it is safe to say Barca will be almost impossible to catch now. (Real are not even in second place). Mourinho will probably leave at season's end or earlier if they get knocked out of Europe in February/March. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Benzema and Ozil if/when Mourinho leaves.
 

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Which team do the Arabs and blacks in the banlieues of Paris support?

paris is unique in europe because it's a huge city that only has 1 football club (other have existed in the past and there are many amateur clubs, but there is only 1 professional club)
so because of this PSG is unique, there are 2 groups of suporters, the ones named "boulogne" are whites and they are racist, the ones named "auteuil" are black/arab/some whites and they are antiracist

as a result there was a lot of violence between the 2 group of suporters: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-supporter-dies-after-attack-by-own-fans.html
and now after this murder, the tickets for a match are sold randomly, so you can't choose to go to a match with a group of friends
the atmosphere in the stadium suffered a lot from this because there are no longer real suporters

a big part of the non-whites living in paris also support marseille, especially the arabs
that's one of the reasons why there are many marseille suporters in paris but few PSG suporters in marseille, because marseille has an arab image so some of the arabs living in paris (or in other parts of france) suport them


As for Real Madrid they dropped two more points yesterday and I think it is safe to say Barca will be almost impossible to catch now. (Real are not even in second place). Mourinho will probably leave at season's end or earlier if they get knocked out of Europe in February/March. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Benzema and Ozil if/when Mourinho leaves.

ronaldo is probably going to leave too, the team whithout ronaldo will be so weak!
it's scary
i have never seen real madrid this weak
they have no defense, and when ronaldo will leave they will have no star player
and over the past years they have a similar record to clubs like schalke 04 in champions league
they need to change everything
 

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I caught the second half of the Real Madrid match - they lost to Malaga - on a foreign language stream. For some reason Casillas was on the bench. It's all over now for Real as Barca have a 16 point lead.
 
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For some reason Casillas was on the bench.

Yes I noticed that too.Must have had something to do with Mourinho making a statement or something.I'm not exactly sure though.I only saw the first 10 minutes and Malaga's goalkeeper,Wilfred Caballero made a brilliant,breathtaking save from a killer Ronaldo
freekick(I am linking because embedding is disabled,and a Gif would be too large
).
Also,Ronaldo missed a sitter!A dolly!
 

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the definition of an over-rated arab player
forget about benzema, ben arfa, nasri, and remember that name: adel taarabt

many times i tried to describe the typical arab behaviour on a football pitch, but adel taarabt is such a caricature that i'll just post these 2 things:

the typical arab useless skills:

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and the typical moaning:

http://www.sport24.com/football/fil-info/taarabt-et-le-racisme-en-france-605859

"in the french national team, when there are problems, they always blame the blacks, the nasris, the benzemas, the ben arfas, but not menez, who doesn't even have a french name
just call white players in the national team then"

like taarabt, i thought menez was of spanish origin, because it's a common spanish name, but it's also a typical britton name (i didn't know it because in brittany their names are not from french language so it's unusual for someone who's not from brittany)
menez is actually 100% french (from brittany)
 
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benzema's stats with the national team are getting really ugly
he hasn't scored in the last 9 matches, 9 matches played as a starter, 747 minutes, his last goal was against the allmighty estonia, in a friendly match
before estonia, he had spent 6 matches as a starter without scoring, 463 minutes, since his goal against albania

he has now attempted 37 shots without scoring once, since his goal against estonia
that has to be a record

in the spanish league, he failed to take advantage of higuain's injury, as always, and he has only 4 goals
higuain played less because of his injury (100 minutes less approximately) and he has 7 goals, that's almost 2 times benzema's goals with less play time

and just for fun, casillas recating to a miss by benzema from the bench:

http://minus.com/l7LJLXkqOxciP
 
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another disgrace of a miss by benzema:

[video=dailymotion;xx99mq]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xx99mq_karim-benzema-epic-miss-vs-granada-02-02-2013-subscribe_shortfilms#.UQ72ZGfWplM[/video]

bad quality, but don't worry, my friend who does videos about benzema's misses already has it in HD quality :icon_cool:

it's unacceptable from a real madrid striker at the 85th minute of the match, while real madrid is losing 1-0 to granada, the shoot should at least be on target especially when he has enough time to control the ball (the target includes the posts so i'm not asking too much)

real madrid looking worse and worse every match
they don't even look like they will be strong enough to compete for the second place behind barcelona
 
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the definition of an over-rated arab player
forget about benzema, ben arfa, nasri, and remember that name: adel taarabt

many times i tried to describe the typical arab behaviour on a football pitch, but adel taarabt is such a caricature that i'll just post these 2 things:

the typical arab useless skills:

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and the typical moaning:

http://www.sport24.com/football/fil-info/taarabt-et-le-racisme-en-france-605859

"in the french national team, when there are problems, they always blame the blacks, the nasris, the benzemas, the ben arfas, but not menez, who doesn't even have a french name
just call white players in the national team then"

like taarabt, i thought menez was of spanish origin, because it's a common spanish name, but it's also a typical britton name (i didn't know it because in brittany their names are not from french language so it's unusual for someone who's not from brittany)
menez is actually 100% french (from brittany)

The pic is funny alright, but it's simply of a (lambda?) white man (slightly blond ,blue eyes). This is not Taarabt, not sure where you got this photo
 

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The pic is funny alright, but it's simply of a (lambda?) white man (slightly blond ,blue eyes). This is not Taarabt, not sure where you got this photo

ahah, no, the original GIF has been replaced with this guy's picture for some reason, here is the GIF i originally posted:

isQAHFxNv4Obd.gif


this is for me the caricature of an arab player
 

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benzema started against germany, played 93 minutes, and didn't score
so now he has played 840 minutes in a row without scoring, 10 matches as titular, around 45 shots without scoring
if you know a striker that has done worse please tell me
i think that it might be a record

as always, the contrast with the other real madrid striker is incredible: higuain scored 2 goals against sweden
 
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benzema started against germany, played 93 minutes, and didn't score
so now he has played 840 minutes in a row without scoring, 10 matches as titular, around 45 shots without scoring
if you know a striker that has done worse please tell me
i think that it might be a record


the french newspaper l'equipe answered my question, at least for the french national team, in this newspaper:


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the striker who has played the most matches in a row without scoring for france is, surprisingly :icon_eek: the black clown djibril cissé
i posted many times about him in the black misses thread and he played for QPR for the first part of this season, where he was a huge flop

ofcourse benzema is better than the black clown cissé, but benzema's record is impossible to beat, even for cissé
yes, as l'equipe pointed out, cissé has played 15 matches in a row without scoring in the french national team, while benzema so far has done so for 10 matches
but the difference is that cissé at that time was not the number 1 striker, while benzema is
cissé has only started 5 matches out of these 15 matches, and only on 2 occasions he played more than 45 minutes
benzema has started 10 matches on the other hand

so i counted everything, and benzema as i said earlier has played 840 minutes without scoring over 10 matches (l'equipe says 839)
for cissé i counted only 420 minutes without scoring, so 2 times less minutes

again, that's not because cissé was better than benzema, he was not, but that's because cissé was not a starter, while benzema is the undisputed titular (l'equipe say that they agree about the fact that he must stay an undisputed titular) because he plays in real madrid, and as i said in this thread, benzema plays at real madrid not because of his "talent", but because he is arab and real madrid want arab/muslim players to target the middle-eastern audience

another interesting stat in this newspaper was that benzema had only 23.8% of his shots on target in 2012-2013
 
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a much better video of benzema's miss against getafe

[video=dailymotion;xxgww2]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxgww2_benzema-blunder-02-02-2013-real-madrid-v-granada_sport#.URy3XGfWplM[/video]

against manchester united in champions league benzema was terrible, i read a stat saying that he was the offensive player less involved in real madrid's attacks
 
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Benzema's Goal:

Benzema finally gets a goal,the only kind of goal he can score now,a tap in:

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despite the tap-in (what was barcelona's deefnce doing? valdes? mascherano?) he was booed by the fans because he did nothing, and he was replaced early in the second half
 

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benzema said today that he never sang the french national anthem in his life
he said tat he'll never sing it
he also said that he "kind of likes the french national team"
notice that he says "french national team" and not "france"

and the coach defended that clown while he has stats never seen before for a striker: 10 matches as a titular, 840 minutes, 41 shots in a row without scoring
 

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marca (very know spanish newspaper about real madrid) broadcast the video a friend of mine did with my help, to troll benzema:

http://www.marca.com/2013/03/23/futbol/camino_al_mundial/1364069951.html

they changed the music and cropped the video so that you can't see my friend's name on the image :wacko:

the original:

http://youtu.be/jQu5kzhcS5U
or not sure if it's this one: http://youtu.be/dBEKHbEHiLI

anyways it's a video from my friend
on the marca link, click on the image to launch the video
 
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marca (very know spanish newspaper about real madrid) broadcast the video a friend of mine did with my help, to troll benzema:

http://www.marca.com/2013/03/23/futbol/camino_al_mundial/1364069951.html

they changed the music and cropped the video so that you can't see my friend's name on the image :wacko:

the original:

http://youtu.be/jQu5kzhcS5U
or not sure if it's this one: http://youtu.be/dBEKHbEHiLI

anyways it's a video from my friend
on the marca link, click on the image to launch the video

That's quite a coup! Over 100 comments at Marca so far. I wonder if Ronaldo and Higuain have seen it.:icon_lol:
 

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the real madrid jersey for the next season, with the arab sponsor, fly emirates

meanwhile, benzema is still the same clown:

http://youtu.be/12dBB76bYyg

here's an article in french that highlights why it's so hard to put benzema on the bench in the french national team:

http://blogs.rue89.com/le-revers-de...urgence-dune-nouvelle-cohesion-sociale-230002

because he's the last arab to still be called in the national team, so to mantain cohesion in france it's important to have high profile arabs who have positive roles (in the movies too)

i pasted the most important part in the google translator:

Benzema is the only French player of North African origin in France team, and this is the only "future Zidane," a phrase symbolic importance very important.

Since the retirement of Zinedine Zidane, the imperative for the national sport was to find a replacement, preferably Algerian (Kabyle, it would be even better). Meriem, Meghni, Ziani, Nasri ... A whole bunch of names have followed, but to date, Karim Benzema, who plays nine and a half however, is the only one left.
Respond to the emergency of a new social cohesion

This label also refers to a social reality. The crisis of the suburbs in 2005, the issue of the veil, the case Merah ... The need for a new Zidane must respond to the emergency of a new social cohesion, where the grandchildren of immigrants - Benzema from the third generation - would feel to be integrated and where distrust of Islam would become blurred.

With its performance, Benzema should respond to societal issues in the wake of the black-white-France beur built around Zidane in his time.
 
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