God help us all!

Truthteller · Dec 16, 2012

Don Wassall said:
Arming teachers would be a disaster in this country, given that most of them are anti-gun feminist types that have never fired a gun and would likely freak if there was a genuinely dangerous situation. There's a huge difference between armed airline pilots and relying on Ms. Goodlib to mow down gun-wielding lunatics.

Arming teachers isn't the answer, nor is leaving guns only in the hands of criminals and militarized police. The problems are forced multiculturalism, multiracialism, Cultural Marxism, feminism, soulless consumerism and materialism, isolationism, alienation, apathy, rogue unaccountable government, the constant portrayal of extreme violence and death, a digustingly perverted "popular culture," and on and on. The sicknesses are too many to list; which is why the Second Amendment must be protected at all costs.

I agree with most of what you are saying, but as far as arming teachers, I think it often depends on the school and the school system (where it's located).

For example, I went to a fairly large high school, with tons of teachers and faculty. While many of the male teachers were wimpy, beta males (often Jewish or gay), there were some real men in the school. A Phys. Ed teacher in his 40's, for example, was a starting running back (white man) at a major University. In the science department, we had a 6'6" (at least) ex-All-Ivy League basketball player and another guy who got try-outs with the Washington Redskins. All were fairly young at the time (30's/40's)....I'm sure there were several other "alpha males" in the school at that time. So, if a Columbine scenario did play out, would it be a bad thing if our school had some sort of "A-Team" if some weirdo was running around with a gun?

I'm sure in large parts of the U.S. (South, Mid-West) there are tons of teachers who are upstanding and know how to handle a gun and can actually help keep the students safer, because often times it takes the police quite a bit of time to even arrive on the scene.

Now, that said, I can't imagine it would've helped much in Newtown, CT. Just looking at the media reports, it seemed like the entire faculty was females -- for example it was a group of unarmed women that tried to lunge at the shooter. That's another issue I doubt the Jewish media will ever bring up. Even though it was a grammar school in a wealthy, white town, how could there be so few adult men in a school with 600-700 students? Even if you don't expect a shooter armed-to-the-teeth, aren't they worried that some physcho parent might show up to attack a student or teacher with his fists?

Perhaps for schools like Sandy Hook, one or two armed, plain-clothed guards are needed at all times, to protect all the children and their all-female staff?

the argie · Dec 16, 2012

http://melindasnodgrass.com/a-little-sanity-please#comments

Highlander · Dec 16, 2012

Don Wassall said:
The problems are forced multiculturalism, multiracialism, Cultural Marxism, feminism, soulless consumerism and materialism, isolationism, alienation, apathy, rogue unaccountable government, the constant portrayal of extreme violence and death, a digustingly perverted "popular culture," and on and on. The sicknesses are too many to list; which is why the Second Amendment must be protected at all costs.

Couldn't agree more with every comma-delimited point you make.

There was an article yesterday on Yahoo titled:

Many single women, a key bloc, are avoiding GOP
http://news.yahoo.com/many-single-women-key-bloc-avoiding-gop-133003626--election.html

After reading it, it made me think of this incident and many of the others, as well as just the general f*cked-up-ness of American/Western society today. While everyone is responsible for their own actions and I find this incident and the others utterly horrible tragedies, there are social consquences for straying away from the natural order of things, which, of course, will never be discussed by the MSM. Instead, their agenda is to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment.

For instance, the article states:
In 1960, the average American woman married at age 20. Now it's 27. That reflects, and is partly the cause of, a boom in solo living, with nearly one-third of all U.S. households comprised of single people living alone, according to Eric Klinenberg, a New York University sociologist and author of a book on the subject. In 1950, it was 9 percent.

{This "kid" was 20 years old. Even this lowly omega male would probably have been able to find some female to marry back then (in 1960). Nowadays, forget it. What kind of psychological affect does that have on men, in general, and especially men like him? We wouldn't know because the MSM would never talk about that.}

Women increasingly are graduating from college and joining the workforce, and postponing marriage. From 2000 to 2010, the number of unmarried women increased 18 percent, according to census data.

{Again, what are the other social consequences of this, besides, of course, the only thing that really matters in Femerica, "women's happiness"?}

But some warn that single women, already one-quarter of the electorate, represent the most serious threat to the party's viability. "It's a faster-growing demographic than most others," said Kellyanne Conway, a Republican pollster. "That's a cultural zeitgeist that demands a political response."

"Nowadays, women don't feel so driven to get married because they can support themselves," she said. "A lot of this is driven by women and a combination of lowering payoffs to just marrying any man and rising expectations" of what marriage will bring, she added.

{However, men still have this desire, along with raging hormones, in their twenties. What are the psychological and behavioral responses of men in this type of paradigm and what are the affects on the overall society because of this? This, of course, will remain a rhetorical question, since the MSM and the government don't care about men.}

In the Nov. 6 election, President Barack 0bama's campaign targeted this group in a series of direct mail and email pieces featuring the singer Beyonce and activist Lily Ledbetter, whose name was on the first bill Obama signed, making it easier for women to sue over unequal pay. The campaign also released an online video by actor and writer Lena Dunham that compared a woman's first time voting to losing her virginity.

In a presidential election dominated by debates over women's health and abortion, unmarried women backed Obama over Republican Mitt Romney by a 67-31 margin. Since 1992, when exit polls began identifying single voters, unmarried women have favored Democrats by similar margins.

This year, Obama campaigned in the state (Colorado) with activist Sandra Fluke, an unmarried law student branded a "slut" by commentator Rush Limbaugh for testifying before Congress in support of requiring that employer-provided health insurance covers contraception.

{Instead of the general populace being appalled by these examples above, they actually supported them and voted for the guy that used them as political weapons. Can you imagine this happening 50 years ago?}

Menelik · Dec 16, 2012

Truthteller said:
I agree with most of what you are saying, but as far as arming teachers, I think it often depends on the school and the school system (where it's located).

For example, I went to a fairly large high school, with tons of teachers and faculty. While many of the male teachers were wimpy, beta males (often Jewish or gay), there were some real men in the school. A Phys. Ed teacher in his 40's, for example, was a starting running back (white man) at a major University. In the science department, we had a 6'6" (at least) ex-All-Ivy League basketball player and another guy who got try-outs with the Washington Redskins. All were fairly young at the time (30's/40's)....I'm sure there were several other "alpha males" in the school at that time. So, if a Columbine scenario did play out, would it be a bad thing if our school had some sort of "A-Team" if some weirdo was running around with a gun?

I'm sure in large parts of the U.S. (South, Mid-West) there are tons of teachers who are upstanding and know how to handle a gun and can actually help keep the students safer, because often times it takes the police quite a bit of time to even arrive on the scene.

Now, that said, I can't imagine it would've helped much in Newtown, CT. Just looking at the media reports, it seemed like the entire faculty was females -- for example it was a group of unarmed women that tried to lunge at the shooter. That's another issue I doubt the Jewish media will ever bring up. Even though it was a grammar school in a wealthy, white town, how could there be so few adult men in a school with 600-700 students? Even if you don't expect a shooter armed-to-the-teeth, aren't they worried that some physcho parent might show up to attack a student or teacher with his fists?

Perhaps for schools like Sandy Hook, one or two armed, plain-clothed guards are needed at all times, to protect all the children and their all-female staff?

Don is 100% correct. I teach in a rural Georgia school. Othe then the athletic director/football coach, we are the only white males at the school. With the exception of the JROTC instructor, who's black, I cant imagine any of my fellow educators confronting and killing an ambush by a nutcase. As for the ARMED resourse office who we have posted at our school...imagine a 300 pound female version of Barney Fife who's counting the days until retirement. :icon_sad:

jonstromberg · Dec 16, 2012

Wes Woodhead said:
If the teachers had guns a lot of young lives would have been saved. A gun is a tool. Nothing more, nothing less. A gun is no better, or worse than the man who carries it.

Well if you would like to live in a society where people have to carry guns to protect their kids from other people who carry guns, then that is up to you.

If you take the developed world, including many of the countries that suffer from the same issues as the US, such as Germany, the UK (film violence, immigration etc), the US has by FAR the biggest gun crime rate - per capita nearly 10 times higher than the UK.

Why could this be? Is it not just the faintest bit possible that its due to the fact that 40% of the world's guns are in the US? The second amendment might have been relevant to the 1700's, but this last few decades it has been an unmitigated disaster for the US.

I know that you wont appreciate me being on this forum, but these are tough issues and just sitting there freaking out that your enemies are plotting to take away your freedoms is not going to solve anything.

How is the US going to get gun crime levels down to those of other comparable countries? Surely this would benefit everyone, and surely for this something needs to be done? Or maybe the gun crime rate in the US doesn't bother you?

Highlander · Dec 16, 2012

jonstromberg said:
Well if you would like to live in a society where people have to carry guns to protect their kids from other people who carry guns, then that is up to you.

If you take the developed world, including many of the countries that suffer from the same issues as the US, such as Germany, the UK (film violence, immigration etc), the US has by FAR the biggest gun crime rate - per capita nearly 10 times higher than the UK.

Why could this be? Is it not just the faintest bit possible that its due to the fact that 40% of the world's guns are in the US? The second amendment might have been relevant to the 1700's, but this last few decades it has been an unmitigated disaster for the US.

I know that you wont appreciate me being on this forum, but these are tough issues and just sitting there freaking out that your enemies are plotting to take away your freedoms is not going to solve anything.

How is the US going to get gun crime levels down to those of other comparable countries? Surely this would benefit everyone, and surely for this something needs to be done? Or maybe the gun crime rate in the US doesn't bother you?

The areas in the US that have the strictest gun laws have the most gun crime...Chicago being the most notorious. The areas in the US that have the most lax guns laws, as well as per capita concealed carry licenses, are some of the safest areas.

Menelik · Dec 16, 2012

It seems there have always been monsters among us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Leonardfan · Dec 16, 2012

Meanwhile in China - a man wielding a knife attacked 22 school children but no one seems to be reporting this -

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/14/china-knife-attack-school.html

Highlander · Dec 16, 2012

Leonardfan said:
Meanwhile in China - a man wielding a knife attacked 22 school children but no one seems to be reporting this -

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/14/china-knife-attack-school.html

The State-run media also isn't reporting that a CCW gun owner helped stop the shooter at the recent Oregon mall shooting.

werewolf · Dec 16, 2012

Highlander said:
The areas in the US that have the strictest gun laws have the most gun crime...Chicago being the most notorious. The areas in the US that have the most lax guns laws, as well as per capita concealed carry licenses, are some of the safest areas.

Also, that school was A GUN FREE ZONE. If it wasn't, maybe one of the teachers might have had a concealed weapon and been able to stop the maniac in its tracks. Of course outlaws and maniacs don't pay the slightest attention to "gun free zones" or other laws, except they know they'll have a free hand there.

Chicago is a gun free city, and Chicago has the most gun crimes and gun murders in the country.

Bloomberg, Emanuel, Schumer, Feinstein, the kosher media meisters, they are all foaming at the mouth to get gun control - but not in their country, only for the stupid goyim in the colony.

Wes Woodhead · Dec 16, 2012

jonstromberg said:
Well if you would like to live in a society where people have to carry guns to protect their kids from other people who carry guns, then that is up to you.

If you take the developed world, including many of the countries that suffer from the same issues as the US, such as Germany, the UK (film violence, immigration etc), the US has by FAR the biggest gun crime rate - per capita nearly 10 times higher than the UK.

Why could this be? Is it not just the faintest bit possible that its due to the fact that 40% of the world's guns are in the US? The second amendment might have been relevant to the 1700's, but this last few decades it has been an unmitigated disaster for the US.

I know that you wont appreciate me being on this forum, but these are tough issues and just sitting there freaking out that your enemies are plotting to take away your freedoms is not going to solve anything.

How is the US going to get gun crime levels down to those of other comparable countries? Surely this would benefit everyone, and surely for this something needs to be done? Or maybe the gun crime rate in the US doesn't bother you?

Most gun crimes are commited by blacks, and mestizos. Every now and then a white man goes nuts with his gun/guns, and thats always front page news. The fact is that the vast majority of guns crime, or crime in general is because we have a huge non white population.

Don Wassall · Dec 16, 2012

jonstromberg said:
Well if you would like to live in a society where people have to carry guns to protect their kids from other people who carry guns, then that is up to you.

If you take the developed world, including many of the countries that suffer from the same issues as the US, such as Germany, the UK (film violence, immigration etc), the US has by FAR the biggest gun crime rate - per capita nearly 10 times higher than the UK.

Why could this be? Is it not just the faintest bit possible that its due to the fact that 40% of the world's guns are in the US? The second amendment might have been relevant to the 1700's, but this last few decades it has been an unmitigated disaster for the US.

I know that you wont appreciate me being on this forum, but these are tough issues and just sitting there freaking out that your enemies are plotting to take away your freedoms is not going to solve anything.

How is the US going to get gun crime levels down to those of other comparable countries? Surely this would benefit everyone, and surely for this something needs to be done? Or maybe the gun crime rate in the US doesn't bother you?

How naive, or disingenuous, can you be. Does it have anything to do with the fact that the United States is no longer an homogenous society? Forcing all the world's races, tribes and religions together, under the always benevolent eye of Big Brother, equals what? Utopia? More like Dystopia. The Great Unwanted Multicultural Experiment has been an utter failure, much as, to relate it to this site, the Great Eight Year Kordell Stewart Experiment was an utter failure. Yes, they are very much linked.

werewolf · Dec 16, 2012

dwid said:
yes, SSRI's are evil drugs. My wife was a little bit down since we have had 2 partial molar pregnancies in a row after having our first child (turns out they hand these things out like candy to anyone who asks), she was put on Wellbutrin, a few months later during Thanksgiving she had a seizure out of nowhere (no history of epilepsy), stopped breathing for about 30 seconds, face was blue. The cause, most likely Wellbutrin. They ran all kinds of tests on her and everything has come back normal. I looked it up and its not uncommon for Wellbutrin to cause seizures. My good friend and cousin were/are like zombies from taking ssri's for long periods of time. They say it affects their sex drive as well, my friend finally quit and endured months of withdrawals. The only benefit I could find anyone say was "well you aren't as down, but you don't really have any ups either", so a working zombie with low sex drive (mostly White people taking these drugs), so the low reproduction rate will become even lower.

My pal Mike Rivero is all over this and has a lot of links to the drug-school shooting connection on his website. They won't talk about this on the ziomedia for many reasons including the big money made off this industry by big pharma and the psychiatric witch doctor racket, the fact that they are zombifying the best and brightest Aryan white boys in their schools, and the fact that they want to ram down gun control in the USSA.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

jaxvid · Dec 16, 2012

werewolf said:
My pal Mike Rivero is all over this and has a lot of links to the drug-school shooting connection on his website. They won't talk about this on the ziomedia for many reasons including the big money made off this industry by big pharma and the psychiatric witch doctor racket, the fact that they are zombifying the best and brightest Aryan white boys in their schools, and the fact that they want to ram down gun control in the USSA.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

I think you're barking up the wrong tree by blaming psychoatic drugs in this situation. It's like the scaremongers blaming guns. Chances are those types of drugs are preventing more disasters then they are causing. I know a couple of schizo's that are far more sane on their meds then without. "Zombies" don't shoot up schools, mentally risky people who are unable to deal with their disability without medicating are the problem. And I don't think Lanza was one of the "best and brightest Aryan white boys" in his school.

werewolf · Dec 16, 2012

jonstromberg said:
Well if you would like to live in a society where people have to carry guns to protect their kids from other people who carry guns, then that is up to you.

If you take the developed world, including many of the countries that suffer from the same issues as the US, such as Germany, the UK (film violence, immigration etc), the US has by FAR the biggest gun crime rate - per capita nearly 10 times higher than the UK....

Gun crime rate? Playing with words are we, champ? What about knife and fist and boot etc. crime? The violent crime rate in the UK and Australia has skyrocketed since they disarmed all the honest people. Outlaws and maniacs, on the other hand, don't pay the slightest attention to laws. That's why they call them outlaws and maniacs. What they have done is rendered the good people of those countries defenseless, and that's what they want to do here.

Since you hate guns so much, put your money where your mouth is and put up a big sign on your house saying This House Is A Gun Free Zone, like they do on their SCHOOLS and like they do in their "gun free zone" cities, like Chicago. Then burglars and robbers and home invaders will know how sweet you are.

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werewolf · Dec 16, 2012

jaxvid said:
I think you're barking up the wrong tree by blaming psychoatic drugs in this situation. It's like the scaremongers blaming guns. Chances are those types of drugs are preventing more disasters then they are causing. I know a couple of schizo's that are far more sane on their meds then without. "Zombies" don't shoot up schools, mentally risky people who are unable to deal with their disability without medicating are the problem. And I don't think Lanza was one of the "best and brightest Aryan white boys" in his school.

"preventing more disasters then they are causing"?

Kids were not doing that sort of thing back when guns were readily available but Ritalin etc. was not. Those drugs cause suicidal and homicidal thoughts and deeds.

Adam Lanza autism psychiatric drugs causing violence ?

Antidepressants Top List of Most Violence-Inducing Drugs
It’s certainly worth paying heed to drug interactions such as violence and homicidal leanings, both as a patient and as a concerned parent, family member or friend. According to a 2010 study published in the journal PLoS One, half of the top 10 drugs disproportionately linked with violent behavior are antidepressants:
1.Varenicline (Chantix): The number one violence-inducing drug on the list, this anti-smoking medication is 18 times more likely to be linked with violence when compared to other drugs
2.Fluoxetine (Prozac): This drug was the first well-known SSRI antidepressant
3.Paroxetine (Paxil): Another SSRI antidepressant, Paxil is also linked with severe withdrawal symptoms and a risk of birth defects
4.Amphetamines

Various): Used to treat ADHD
5.Mefoquine (Lariam): A treatment for malaria which is often linked with reports of strange behavior

---------------

List of 66 School shooting incidents involving SSRIs

Make that 67
Connecticut Shooter Adam Lanza: 'Obviously Not Well'
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/connecticu...d=17975673
Mass Murders And The SSRIs Connection

More links here:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

werewolf · Dec 16, 2012

"Kids were not doing that sort of thing back when guns were readily available but Ritalin etc. was not. Those drugs cause suicidal and homicidal thoughts and deeds."

And the occupational government's war without end and gleefully slaughtering other peoples' kids in faraway places, and their training the canon fodder to be ultraviolent via tv and movies and video games, adds to the problem...and then the chickens come home to roost.

jaxvid · Dec 16, 2012

jonstromberg said:
Well if you would like to live in a society where people have to carry guns to protect their kids from other people who carry guns, then that is up to you.

If you take the developed world, including many of the countries that suffer from the same issues as the US, such as Germany, the UK (film violence, immigration etc), the US has by FAR the biggest gun crime rate - per capita nearly 10 times higher than the UK.

Why could this be? Is it not just the faintest bit possible that its due to the fact that 40% of the world's guns are in the US? The second amendment might have been relevant to the 1700's, but this last few decades it has been an unmitigated disaster for the US.

I know that you wont appreciate me being on this forum, but these are tough issues and just sitting there freaking out that your enemies are plotting to take away your freedoms is not going to solve anything.

How is the US going to get gun crime levels down to those of other comparable countries? Surely this would benefit everyone, and surely for this something needs to be done? Or maybe the gun crime rate in the US doesn't bother you?

It's because we have a large violent black population with access to guns and the temptation of rich White targets that there are more murders then in Germany and Europe. White areas in the US have comparable murder rates to other White countries, although a bit higher because the US does have more guns and does not have a homogenous (even for Whites) population. White homicide rates in the US are about 1/10 of black homicide rates. So if 8000-9000 people a year are killed in the US White people would be responsible for about 800/900 nearly the same as Germany, pretty impressive considering the amount of guns in the US. I would also imagine many "white" murderers are actually hispanic and anyway the white underclass is intertwined with the black and hispanic underclass and undoubtedly becomes more violent as a result.

Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica have much higher rates then the US as well as Mexico and Brazil. Notice a pattern? Nice that you have picked up that White people (Europe) are very peaceful in their homelands, so I guess now that you really understand the issue what you really want is to make black people less violent here in the US. What's your plan for that?

Oh and don't worry too much. Violence (including gun crimes) are rising in Europe as they import more of the wonderful diversity that we have here. In a couple of generations they will be just as violent and you can then be happy that the US is only as violent as Europe.

werewolf · Dec 16, 2012

jaxvid said:
I think you're barking up the wrong tree by blaming psychoatic drugs in this situation. It's like the scaremongers blaming guns. Chances are those types of drugs are preventing more disasters then they are causing. I know a couple of schizo's that are far more sane on their meds then without. "Zombies" don't shoot up schools, mentally risky people who are unable to deal with their disability without medicating are the problem. And I don't think Lanza was one of the "best and brightest Aryan white boys" in his school.

No, boss, I don't think I'm barking up the wrong tree. Mike Rivero (wrh.com) says:

CALL TO ACTION: The only way Americans are going to halt this latest gun-grabber attack on the Bill of Rights is to force the issue of SSRI-caused violence into the public eye. You, yes YOU need to forward all these articles about SSRIs and violence, and the fact that the Connecticut shooter was on these medications, to all your local media, all your family and friends, every public forum you can find, and especially to flood the offices of members of Congress (who already had hearings into this very problem). Right now that fancy software the government bought to fake thousands of online identities is cranked up into rock-and-roll, full-tilt, afterburner overdrive. Unless We The People match them post for post, fact for myth, the gun-grabbers will win through attrition. The first side to quit loses. PLEASE SPREAD ALL THESE STORIES ABOUT SSRI-VIOLENCE, and demand to know if the Dark Knight Shooter and the shooter at the shopping mall in Portlnd were also on these drugs.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

whiteathlete33 · Dec 16, 2012

jaxvid said:
It's because we have a large violent black population with access to guns and the temptation of rich White targets that there are more murders then in Germany and Europe. White areas in the US have comparable murder rates to other White countries, although a bit higher because the US does have more guns and does not have a homogenous (even for Whites) population. White homicide rates in the US are about 1/10 of black homicide rates. So if 8000-9000 people a year are killed in the US White people would be responsible for about 800/900 nearly the same as Germany, pretty impressive considering the amount of guns in the US. I would also imagine many "white" murderers are actually hispanic and anyway the white underclass is intertwined with the black and hispanic underclass and undoubtedly becomes more violent as a result.

Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica have much higher rates then the US as well as Mexico and Brazil. Notice a pattern? Nice that you have picked up that White people (Europe) are very peaceful in their homelands, so I guess now that you really understand the issue what you really want is to make black people less violent here in the US. What's your plan for that?

Oh and don't worry too much. Violence (including gun crimes) are rising in Europe as they import more of the wonderful diversity that we have here. In a couple of generations they will be just as violent and you can then be happy that the US is only as violent as Europe.

Jaxvid, that's the truth but why is it so hard for most of the white US population to understand that blacks are extremely violent? Why do the gullible whites believe that white oppression is the reason for black violence rates?

werewolf · Dec 16, 2012

jaxvid said:
... I would also imagine many "white" murderers are actually hispanic...

Violent crime rates in white parts of the US, especially those parts of the country that are well armed, are lower than in Europe.

Re above, here is how they cook their books: When "Hispanics" are arrested for a crime they are classified as white; when they are victims of a crime they are classified non-white.

white is right · Dec 16, 2012

werewolf said:
"you used to be able to order hand guns and ammo from the Sears or Montgomery Ward catalogue, and you didn't need any politician's license or permission to do so, and nobody was shooting up schools!"

Old Sears catalogue.

I recall seeing quarterly seasonal catalogues and seeing long arms as child (in Canada) listed and for sale. I also recall hunting rifles being sold more freely and open then they are now. This was from a country that doesn't allow hand guns for it's citizens beyond small businessmen and people that protect "important" people.

Don Wassall · Dec 16, 2012

werewolf said:
"Kids were not doing that sort of thing back when guns were readily available but Ritalin etc. was not. Those drugs cause suicidal and homicidal thoughts and deeds."

And the occupational government's war without end and gleefully slaughtering other peoples' kids in faraway places, and their training the canon fodder to be ultraviolent via tv and movies and video games, adds to the problem...and then the chickens come home to roost.

The USSA is far and away the most drugged up and doped up society in history. Werewolf is right about the drugging of the best and brightest young boys of our race, just one of many daily heinous unspeakable crimes that are never opposed and usually not even noticed or mentioned.

I was channel surfing yesterday and came across a show called "Surviving Zombies" on the Science Channel, or maybe it was the SciFi Channel, no real difference. It was a serious "reality" show, though like all "reality" shows it appeared to be scripted and most of the main characters were actors. Nonetheless this crap is fed to DWF Nation as the real deal. Can you imagine this **** even a few years ago, serious shows about surviving "zombies"? Idiocracy doesn't even begin to describe the agenda of the totalitarians running the show. To call this "nation" a shell of its former self is being very generous.

Don Wassall · Dec 16, 2012

Interesting that the Newtown slaughter has turned into a national soap opera of mourning, including a moment of silence at all NFL games today. Similar past tragedies such as the Virginia Tech shooting (by an Asian and with a higher death count) and Columbine were not given such treatment.

I feel as bad as anyone for the familes directly affected, but this mass weeping treatment is being conducted by a government and a president that daily kills innocent men, women and children in a number of countries in undeclared wars of aggression, many of which are "secret". Are those innocent victims not human beings also? The disconnect is so severe and is just one of many reasons this f'ed up society is fast headed for the trashbin of history.

foobar75 · Dec 16, 2012

The shooter is a product of a corrupt and rotten society. He's a disenfranchised 20-something male raised on government approved drugs and video games. What can you possibly expect when those who build and maintain civilizations (White males) are being tossed aside in favor of women and minorities in almost every aspect of life?

The article linked by Highlander is very significant. Women these days are more per-occupied with their careers and having their fun, instead of marriage and family. The worst amongst us have been in charge and making decisions for the past 50 years and have managed to destroy this country from within. Has there ever been another nation in history who's fallen from grace in this manner without ever being run over and conquered by invading foreign armies? We are our own worst enemies.

I'm afraid there are many more men like the shooter, without any job or family prospects, which could result in more tragedies like this. As the title of the thread says, God help us all.

God help us all!

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