Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80!

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I agree that we should primarily stick to track. I wasn't here last night when this discussion took place but let's alll try to act like grown men and move the converstation back to track. If you look back over the 200 pages of this thread, it's not until the last half year or so that the topic has went into others areas multiple times. I have stated many times to stick to talking about Christophe on this thread. There are other categories to discuss religion, politics and life views in general. We also have a tendacy to talk about many other athletes when they should also go into a different thread title. We are very open minded here and we think outside of the box. Everyone has different views but for the most part we try to respect everyone and agree to disagree.

Back to Lemaitre. His reaction time to the gun in the final was good. I know he has a routine he goes through before every race. I have no problem with that. The reason I know he was nervous is because he started to tighten up very early in the race. When they rounded the curve, the Christophe I know would almost always close the gap on everyone. He was grimacing and fighting himself out there. It can happen to any sprinter but when your tense, the speed is gone. If you watch Bolt, Gay, Blake or any elite sprinter, look at their faces and how relaxed they are. The legendary V. Borzov said that when he first learned to sprint, the coach would tell him and the other youth sprinters to hole a piece of paper in their mouth as they ran at full speed. Most of the kids would drop the paper. If they could learn to hold the paper in their mouth, it showed the ability to relax hence being able to hit fulll speed and to carry that speed through to the finish line. All elite sprinters have this great ability of relaxation. Christophe usually is excellent in this ability but not in this race. It was probably just a bad day at the track but that along with the terrible lane cost him any chance of a medal.

I love this kid but people should be realistic. If he wants to truely hit his genetic potential, he needs to get stronger to improve his start over both distances. He doesn't need to be a bodybuilder. Just some good upper body strength while also not neglecting the lower body. I really believe at some point soon, a coaching change is in order and Carraz should stay on as part of the team but I don't think he should be his regular coach anymore. Just my opinion. Christohpe has no time to waste. Histroy awaits!
 

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It's a shame that CL and the French 4x100 team finished just outside the medals. Barely got pipped at the end.

I dunno about those Jamaicans. Another WR? It seems a bit suspicious the way rich American negroes suddenly can't compete with their brethren from Jamaica.

Anyway I was surprised that Ron Pognon (Black) was still sprinting for France. I remember his name from when I was a kid, so he must be getting up there by now.
 

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I don't run this site but act as a moderator. In my opinion I think you are being too sensitive. There is no difference between someone not liking jews and not liking Catholics or blacks, or arabs or any other group. It is their personal opinion.

There was no direct insults of jewish people or remarks that would violate the forum rules.

I find the oversensitive complaint of "anti-semitism" to be a violation of a persons right to speak freely. As a European you should be very sensitive to this complaint as, in Europe, they throw people in jail and fine them for expressing their free speech rights. I find that very objectionable.

And I must be honest. I feel that because of the great power that jews exert over public policy in both Europe and the US, and because both those places have serious problems, that jews must bear a great amount of responsibility for those problems. I think they should be heavily criticized for many of the decisions they make and I support those that make those criticisms.

I hope you don't leave this forum for this reason but if you do I think it will be more likely that you are the intolerant one not us.

And please don't use the word "Nazi" in this respect. No one spoke of Naziism in this discussion. It is misleading and has nothing to do with this discussion.


YOU SAID "I feel that because of the great power that jews exert over public policy in both Europe and the US, and because both those places have serious problems, that jews must bear a great amount of responsibility for those problems. I think they should be heavily criticized for many of the decisions they make and I support those that make those criticisms."


WHAT SAD COMMENTS ! WHAT HORRIFIC CLICHES

For you Catholic are also pedophile and muslim are terrorists ! That's right?

it's the same clichés !

It is shocking to read of such comments on this forum in 2012 !
 

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It's a shame that CL and the French 4x100 team finished just outside the medals. Barely got pipped at the end.

I dunno about those Jamaicans. Another WR? It seems a bit suspicious the way rich American negroes suddenly can't compete with their brethren from Jamaica.

Anyway I was surprised that Ron Pognon (Black) was still sprinting for France. I remember his name from when I was a kid, so he must be getting up there by now.

A SHAME ? NO
vicaut BAD RACE
pognon BAD RACE

ronald pognon is 30 years old !
 

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A SHAME ? NO
vicaut BAD RACE
pognon BAD RACE

ronald pognon is 30 years old !

"it's a shame" does not translate to "c'est une honte" in french, it means "c'est dommage"
in english "c'est une honte" would translate to "it's a disgrace"

so he was not insulting lemaitre and the french team i think, he was just disapointed
 

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The jewish man in charge of french athletics, bernard amsallem, does everything you could expect from him: he pushes athletics in the urban areas, where the population is majority black (see the project "urban athlé") and he only thinks about detecting the sprinting talents in those urban areas or in the caribeans (the project "plan caraibes": there is a bigger black population in france than in the USA (in percentage) and we also have blacks who are descendants of slaves (there are more blacks of caribean descent in paris than in the french islands in the caribean)
we also have what you call a "caste system" in sports

I'm agree with you, but in the US the black population represent around 13% behind the 16% of hispanics.
In France, even though you don't have ethnics statistics I think it's nearly 10% of the population. (I don't put the Arabs in this category)
However, look at our French soccer team, basket team etc...you don't have any white...in the 2006 world cup final 95% of our team was not white. I think in this London O.G. 35/40% of our Olympic team are from immigration. Yohann Gourcuff one of the only white great hope is not anymore in our national team. I think these teams are not representative of France.

I live close to the German Border (10 minutes in bike from my home) and when I speak with Germans they are very proud of their teams in soccer, basket, handball, athletes etc...because they are true Germans and even they have some immigrants in their national team they are not the majority like in France.
It's the same thing in Scandinavia and others European countries. Only in France team, you have 90% of black and Arabs (except in rugby).

Christophe Lemaitre didn't win any medals in this Olympics Games and unfortunately, I watched his interview he seem to don't care about that.
 
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I'm agree with you, but in the US the black population represent around 13% behind the 16% of hispanics.
In France, even though you don't have ethnics statistics I think it's nearly 10% of the population. (I don't put the Arabs in this category)

there are less blacks in your region i believe, but it's not the case in every region

according to this: http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/firs...-reveal-54-of-babies-born-in-paris-are-black/

there are much more blacks in france than in the US

in the generation that will go to elementary school next year, 30% of the children will be blacks, and more than 50% in paris

while in the US, there are "only" 15% blacks amongst the newborns this year : http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/17/article-2145687-13220938000005DC-904_634x746.jpg
 

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not caring

Yes! Good point Jun. He doesn't care.

And that leads to the question, should we be down on him for not caring.

On one hand, not wanting to take on the system produced steroid monsters in very understandable. It's a daunting task.

On the other, having the pride in one's real heritage wiped out is the crux of the political problem that ultimately results in us all becoming slaves, e.g., The Hunger Games. Without that pride, we're toast.
 

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man wtf with so much racism on this forum? why if in france national team majority of players aren't white?if your white players are some pussy no problem,arabs and blacks are ready to represent your country,you fear about arabs or black?why? because they bang your sister or mother? man why must to like a person because is white and why must to hate a person because is black? all of us are human being and equal in everything. ZINEDINE ZIDANE-your best ever player is algerian ;) people from pour country all time are better than people from rich country this is sure,why that ethiopians and kenyans can run so good? why our caucasian cant do that?because a nigga run not play on play-station and eat kfc
 

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man wtf with so much racism on this forum? why if in france national team majority of players aren't white?if your white players are some pussy no problem,arabs and blacks are ready to represent your country,you fear about arabs or black?why? because they bang your sister or mother? man why must to like a person because is white and why must to hate a person because is black? all of us are human being and equal in everything. ZINEDINE ZIDANE-your best ever player is algerian ;) people from pour country all time are better than people from rich country this is sure,why that ethiopians and kenyans can run so good? why our caucasian cant do that?because a nigga run not play on play-station and eat kfc


zidane is not the best french player ever
kopa and fontaine are miles ahead of him, not even the same league

and regarding the high number of blacks in the french national team if you want to discuss it there is a soccer section here and a thread about french soccer
but i have quotes from very important people in french soccer and it's not what you seem to think it is:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/13607-French-Soccer?p=230956&viewfull=1#post230956

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/13607-French-Soccer?p=254729&viewfull=1#post254729

whites dominate french soccer (out of the 3 top scorer last year, 2 were whites from france and 1 was a non-black brazilian, out of the 3 players with most assists in the league are 3 white french - if you consider french speaking belgians french)
 
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man wtf with so much racism on this forum? why if in france national team majority of players aren't white?if your white players are some pussy no problem,arabs and blacks are ready to represent your country,you fear about arabs or black?why? because they bang your sister or mother? man why must to like a person because is white and why must to hate a person because is black? all of us are human being and equal in everything. ZINEDINE ZIDANE-your best ever player is algerian ;) people from pour country all time are better than people from rich country this is sure,why that ethiopians and kenyans can run so good? why our caucasian cant do that?because a nigga run not play on play-station and eat kfc

I believe the reason that you survived to over 100 posts is because you are an idiot and no one can understand your incoherent ramblings, well, that's if they take the time to attempt to read your writing, I think most people skip/skim your posts. Congratulations.
 

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I believe the reason that you survived to over 100 posts is because you are an idiot and no one can understand your incoherent ramblings, well, that's if they take the time to attempt to read your writing, I think most people skip/skim your posts. Congratulations.

Well Anak, it seems the clown has exposed himself as nothing more than a wigger troll! Pretty easy to spot idiots like this out!
 

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I know I'm not an example and I usually rave much in my post, but please, going back to the subject of discussion that is Christophe Lemaitre.
 

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Can someone please post a schedule of the remainer of the meets that Christophe will enter if available. I know one thing. He will want to get some revenge for his mediocre olympics performance. Don't be suprised if he still runs some very fast times in the last month of the season. Hopefully he can maintain his peak condition a little longer and off course he won't have to run rounds. A new p.b. in the 200 would be nice as well as a sub 10. The european 200 meters record would be the icing on the cake. At the very least, hopefully next season he will take down the european record over both distances. I still prefer to see him in the 100. It breaks down more stereotypes in my opinion.
 

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Can someone please post a schedule of the remainer of the meets that Christophe will enter if available. I know one thing. He will want to get some revenge for his mediocre olympics performance. Don't be suprised if he still runs some very fast times in the last month of the season. Hopefully he can maintain his peak condition a little longer and off course he won't have to run rounds. A new p.b. in the 200 would be nice as well as a sub 10. The european 200 meters record would be the icing on the cake. At the very least, hopefully next season he will take down the european record over both distances. I still prefer to see him in the 100. It breaks down more stereotypes in my opinion.


Christophe will run 200M in ZURICH (30/08/2012)
Christophe will run in BRUXELLES (07/09/2012), probably 100M with BOLT, GATLIN and BLAKE !
 

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I don't see a white man being a world or Olympic 100m champion -- whether through doping or not any time soon. The Communist Bloc countries were doping whites males at the same time that Ben Johnson and other West African descended blacks were doping, yet they could not beat black men then -- even though such doping was state-sponsored. I predict that Lemaitre will just fade away like the last Great White Hope, Craig Pickering. No amount of training or PED's will make the fastest white man be faster than the fastest black man. This is an exercise in futility. We must be realistic about white males' inherent physiological limitations.
 

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Can someone please post a schedule of the remainer of the meets that Christophe will enter if available. I know one thing. He will want to get some revenge for his mediocre olympics performance. Don't be suprised if he still runs some very fast times in the last month of the season. Hopefully he can maintain his peak condition a little longer and off course he won't have to run rounds. A new p.b. in the 200 would be nice as well as a sub 10. The european 200 meters record would be the icing on the cake. At the very least, hopefully next season he will take down the european record over both distances. I still prefer to see him in the 100. It breaks down more stereotypes in my opinion.


A new PB would be great, and a legit sub 10...the only way he will break both the European 100 and 200 next year is if he spends time in the weight room. There is no other way around it. Must get stronger.
 

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I don't see a white man being a world or Olympic 100m champion -- whether through doping or not any time soon. The Communist Bloc countries were doping whites males at the same time that Ben Johnson and other West African descended blacks were doping, yet they could not beat black men then -- even though such doping was state-sponsored. I predict that Lemaitre will just fade away like the last Great White Hope, Craig Pickering. No amount of training or PED's will make the fastest white man be faster than the fastest black man. This is an exercise in futility. We must be realistic about white males' inherent physiological limitations.
Allan Wells would beg to differ, granted the doping regiment of the late 70's through early 80's isn't the same as this era. He even talked on the BBC broadcast that he was proud that he was last White man to win and final at the Olympics. He even dismissed the snub of having no Americans by stating he beat them 2 weeks later at the big meets in Europe. I think if you could drive out drugs of track and field(a tall order) a White man can still win or medal in the event and one made the final last year and 4 years before that.
 

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I don't see a white man being a world or Olympic 100m champion -- whether through doping or not any time soon. The Communist Bloc countries were doping whites males at the same time that Ben Johnson and other West African descended blacks were doping, yet they could not beat black men then -- even though such doping was state-sponsored. I predict that Lemaitre will just fade away like the last Great White Hope, Craig Pickering. No amount of training or PED's will make the fastest white man be faster than the fastest black man. This is an exercise in futility. We must be realistic about white males' inherent physiological limitations.

White men regularly won sprinting medals at the Olympics up until the late 1960s. How do you explain that? Did White men suddenly become afflicted with the same mysterious genetic defect that resulted in them disappearing as running backs and receivers?
 

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I don't see a white man being a world or Olympic 100m champion -- whether through doping or not any time soon. The Communist Bloc countries were doping whites males at the same time that Ben Johnson and other West African descended blacks were doping, yet they could not beat black men then -- even though such doping was state-sponsored. I predict that Lemaitre will just fade away like the last Great White Hope, Craig Pickering. No amount of training or PED's will make the fastest white man be faster than the fastest black man. This is an exercise in futility. We must be realistic about white males' inherent physiological limitations.

Kostos Kenteris won the Gold for the 200 meter in 2000. So no, you're wrong, doped White runners can win. Oh wait it was never proved so in reality he is as clean as Ben Johnson and Dovovan Baily.

Why do the trolls forget about Kenteris? They never seem to bring it up or remember it.
 

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White men regularly won sprinting medals at the Olympics up until the late 1960s. How do you explain that? Did White men suddenly become afflicted with the same mysterious genetic defect that resulted in them disappearing as running backs and receivers?
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I posted this back a page or so. CL needs to do 2 things if he is progress. I. Build up his upper body. The elite men and women sprinters upper bodies put CL to shame. There is a reason for this.

2. Get an American coach black or White to train him. Look at Steward has done for Wlad Klitsiscko. Its a shame CL thought he could just show up and think he could medal. Not gonna happen unless said changes take place.
 

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White men regularly won sprinting medals at the Olympics up until the late 1960s. How do you explain that? Did White men suddenly become afflicted with the same mysterious genetic defect that resulted in them disappearing as running backs and receivers?



Don, third wave, or whomever wants to respond. I have been around youth track and youth baseball for about the last 8-10 years
both locally and nationally. I believe whites can be as competitive as blacks in sprinting, but possibly some reasons why they don't could be lack interest and participation.

When you go to major tournaments in youth baseball for example 80% of the players are white. When you go to major track meets 99% of the sprinters are black. For whatever reason whites for the most part are not participating and training in the sprint events the way blacks do.

We've seen what some whites in this country can do at young ages in the 100m. Just in my area, Hunter Furr went 10.4 in the 100m at 17 years old at 6'0 200lbs. and won N.C. 4A state 100m Championship and The Nike Outdoor Nationals, but his main sport was football. I know of a 12 year old with about 3 months of training went all the way to the finals at The AAU Junior Olympics in the 100m(11.8) at 12 years old; placing 6th overall. That was out of about 2,500 black participants.

I know there are many other stories here at CF of fast white athletes. These are just a few in my small area. I guess my point is; if 1% or less white athletes are competing in sprint events, the chances of having a major white sprint champion in this country are slim, but still possible against almost all odds.

I can't speak for other countries, but I would almost guarantee if the numbers of participation were equal and the training were the same, this country would produce a white sprinting contender for Gold at the Olympics.
 
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