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Frederic, got a couple of questions, well of course if you know.

Can you provide a racial breakdown of Paris Saint Germain ? What about Montpelier?

Do we know how many whites in the 11 starting team and the 23 team roster, for both teams? Which team has more Negroes?
 

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Frederic, got a couple of questions, well of course if you know.

Can you provide a racial breakdown of Paris Saint Germain ? What about Montpelier?

Do we know how many whites in the 11 starting team and the 23 team roster, for both teams? Which team has more Negroes?


the top 3 of the league:

1 - montpellier: they are a one-man team, olivier giroud scores and also assists
otherwise they are a regular french team, not the whitest, but they are refreshingly white compared to other teams
usually they have between 4 and 5 whites starting + 1 or 2 arabs + a brazilian who is not black + a chilean who could be considered white


2 - paris saint germain: the best french team right now for sure, and they might be the best team for the next 10 years
they are the whitest team of ligue 1
in the last match they played with 7 whites, which is usual for them
many changes can be expected for the next season as they plan to buy quality white players

3 - lille: the second whitest team of the french ligue 1 for me
they had 7 white starters too in their last match



i didn't look at the number of whites in the whole roster, but i counted the blacks before
here are the figures:
paris saint germain: 12 blacks
montpellier: 10 blacks
lille: 11 blacks
out of more or less 30 players

in france some teams have more than 20 blacks, so they are close to being the teams with less blacks
but the number of black starters is more important in my opinion
 

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a friendly match against iceland:

france started the match with 2 blacks, 4 arabs and 5 whites
but one of the blacks was the goalkeeper, who played because our white goalkeeper was tired, so this black will never play at the euro champs or any important match
we finished the match with 3 blacks, 1 arab, and 7 whites

the arab players were totally useless
when giroud came in, iceland was leading 2-1 (the french goal was scored by the white debuchy)
he made 2 assists, one for ribery and one for rami, and france won the match 3-2

giroud scored in his last match, against germany (where he was also very usefull especially on the aerial balls - he was also involved in the second frenc goal), and made 2 assists this time
while benzema is useless
it's so obvious that giroud should be our number one striker, but benzema is so over-rated in real madrid that he has to play no matter how good giroud is
i don't know who has been named man of the match, but it should be giroud
 

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the team for euro champs was announced today:

Gardiens de but
C̩dric Carrasso (30 ans, 1 s̩lection - Bordeaux), Hugo Lloris (25 ans, 31 s̩lections РLyon), Steve Mandanda (27 ans, 15 s̩lections РMarseille)

Défenseurs :
Gaël Clichy (26 ans, 11 sélections – Man. City), Mathieu Debuchy (26 ans, 4 sélections – Lille), Patrice Evra (31 ans, 40 sélections – Man. United), Laurent Koscielny (26 ans, 1 sélection – Arsenal), Philippe Mexes (30 ans, 24 sélections, Milan AC), Adil Rami (26 ans, 18 sélections – Valence), Anthony Réveillère (32 ans, 16 sélections – Lyon)

Milieux de terrain :
Yohan Cabaye (26 ans, 11 s̩lections РNewcastle), Alou Diarra (30 ans, 39 s̩lections РMarseille), Florent Malouda (31 ans, 75 s̩lections РChelsea), Marvin Martin (24 ans, 10 s̩lections РSochaux), Blaise Matuidi (25 ans, 4 s̩lections РPSG), Yann M'vila (21 ans, 18 s̩lections РRennes), Samir Nasri (24 ans, 29 s̩lections РMan. City)

Attaquants :
Hatem Ben Arfa (25 ans, 9 s̩lections РNewcastle), Karim Benzema (24 ans, 43 s̩lections РReal Madrid), Olivier Giroud (25 ans, 4 s̩lections РMontpellier), J̩r̩my Menez (25 ans, 11 s̩lections РPSG), Franck Rib̩ry (29 ans, 58 s̩lections РBayern Munich), Mathieu Valbuena (27 ans, 11 s̩lections РMarseille)

that's 12 whites, 4 arabs and 7 blacks
whites make up for more than 50% of the roster, as expected


the bad things about this team: jeremy mathieu was left out and evra is in the team, while he was terrible against iceland (and in every match he played)
gourcuff is not in the team
too many useless black defensive middlefielders
the arabs playing as forwards are way over-hyped (arab influence over football: nasri, ben arfa, benzema...)
 

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Marvin Martin is white? I always though that he was part arab/black.

there are 2 players that i count as white while they are/might be mixed:

-yohan cabaye who is 1/4 asian: i count him as white because everybody see him as white


cabaye-on-va-a-l-euro-sans-penser-a-2010.jpg


-and marvin martin:

marvin-martin.jpg


i think he might be a gipsy
his father is white (maybe gipsy too)
anyway, he is seen as white by the public, so i count him as white for now
 

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as a comparison, 4 years ago at the last euro champs we had 7 whites, 2 arabs and 14 blacks


Huge improvement for my second country and I am happy for it, but we could do better.

When it comes to "Arabs", you know my theory. All 4 Arabs of our team obviously have strong percentage of white blood in them, actually I believe that Benzema could have more white in him than some people who are considered pure white, such as Johnny Depp.

Our great ancestors conquered the whole planet, especially Middle East has always been our better "clients". The mixture with whites it's obvious in some Arabs, I mean personally if I saw Benzema or Zidane in a mall and I knew nothing about the men, I would see two white men.

Ben Afra is the least white from the 4, I would still consider him mixed with white though.

I saw an interesting show the other day for this piece of crap, anti-white cultural Marxist "Latino" George Lopez who looks nothing like a white man and believe it or not, he said that his DNA test showed that he's 55% white..........So if this dark gypsy look alike is 55% white, imagine how white Benzema or Dos Santos or Zidane are, probably over 95%.

Btw, I saw an interview of Sergio Martinez in Nova Sports, he said he's an Argentine of Spaniard and Greek origin, he said it himself, which means he feels white culturally as well.

I had to mention that, because I remember seeing somewhere that Sergio would be another "Latino" who would deny the white label.
 

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we could have done way better:gourcuff and jeremy mathieu were very close to being in the team, and they are both 100% french and white
then bodmer deserved to be called at least 1 time, and he is 100% french too

i'd say that this team is a pretty actual representation of the french population if you look only at the 15-30 years old (blacks a little bit over-represented)

but if you look at the population that play soccer in france, whites are way over-represented, and this is because we are the best at soccer

in the big cities blacks are the majority amongst football players, with arabs a close second
in the small cities, there are few blacks but i'd say that arabs are more than 50% of the football players

for example a few days ago, olivier giroud (100% french) came back to his first club, which is froges, a very small village near grenoble (my city) :


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the coach is arab, and i'd say that close to 40-50% of the kids are arabs, yet it's a very small city


as it has already been said here, in the big cities the teams are more like this one:

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an interesting fact is how a lot of the black players and arab players play in premier league
evra and clichy are in the team because they play in england for example
also malouda
same for ben arfa and nasri, who play in england, and never achieved anything when they played in france
 

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This Eden Hazard fellow is being disrespectful towards his club Lille by announcing on Twitter that he's going to Chelsea. Given all his big talk he's going to have a lot to prove.

http://blogs.thescore.com/footyblog/2012/05/28/by-the-numbers-is-eden-hazard-worth-all-the-hype/

I confess to have never seen him playing.


great ligue 1 player? i'm ok
but i'm skeptical about him
half of his goals this season were penalty kicks (giroud scored only 2 penalty kicks)
he plays in a much better team than giroud, but he didn't win the league, giroud did
he was unimpressive when he played with his country (belgium) against france

all this to say that for me giroud is was the best ligue 1 player, not him

a funny thing is that there are so many belgian players who are highly rated nowadays
they have premier league stars like eden hazard, fellaini, kompany, vermaelen from arsenal, lukaku from chelsea

they also have van buyten wo plays for bayern munchen, witsel from benfica who is (wrongfully) seen as benfica's best player, ect
yet they have some of the worst results in their history, so obviously some of these players are over-rated

months ago, hazard announced that he would leave lille at the end of the season
it was very disrispectful to the club and the fans
here is hazard's (black) representative arguing about this on a very famous radio show:

[video=youtube;YFteJQLypAc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFteJQLypAc[/video]

hazard's entourage seems very unhealthy
 

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I agree that France's Arab attackers are overrated: Benzema, Nasri, and Arfa have not lived up to the hype surrounding them. The media and fans have referred to all have them as "New Zidane" simply because they're all Arabs. Nasri has been considered to be a flop at Manchester City and was also inconsistent with Arsenal. And there is no way that Benzema will have the same status at Real as Raul and other legends before him. Benzema has attained his position at Real Madrid not necessarily because he has out-competed Higuain but almost entirely because Higuain suffered from big injuries in 2010-11. Real Madrid did not trust Benzema while Higuain was out in 2010-11, which is why they resorted to bringing Adebayor on loan.

But even though they're overrated, it must be said that they are still good players with genuine skill and technique, unlike virtually every Black player.
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half of his goals this season were penalty kicks (giroud scored only 2 penalty kicks)
Well, you cannot compare Hazard to Giroud because they play different positions. Hazard is a winger/attacking midfielder, and Giroud is a center-forward. You can compare Hazard to Belhanda, Nasri, Menez, Valbuena, etc, but not to Giroud. From what I've seen of Hazard, the lad has amazing technique, vision, and creativity.
 
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I agree that France's Arab attackers are overrated: Benzema, Nasri, and Arfa have not lived up to the hype surrounding them. The media and fans have referred to all have them as "New Zidane" simply because they're all Arabs. Nasri has been considered to be a flop at Manchester City and was also inconsistent with Arsenal. And there is no way that Benzema will have the same status at Real as Raul and other legends before him. Benzema has attained his position at Real Madrid not necessarily because he has out-competed Higuain but almost entirely because Higuain suffered from big injuries in 2010-11. Real Madrid did not trust Benzema while Higuain was out in 2010-11, which is why they resorted to bringing Adebayor on loan.


and there are others who were nicknamed "new zidane" and failed, like kamel meriem for example

these arabs are so overrated that i still have magazines with entire articles about them, even though they were 14 years old
meanwhile, a player like giroud played his first ligue 1 match at 24 years old

benzema was also outscored by adebayor (horrible striker by the way)
but florentino perez didn't want to keep adebayor because he wanted benzema to be his number 1 striker, because he wanted to be popular in the middle-east:
http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/14466-arab-influence-in-real-madrid

see this match where benzema was embarrasing and adebayor came in, and scored:

[video=youtube_share;3pJAV8Ofdh8]http://youtu.be/3pJAV8Ofdh8[/video]

see especially the first replay, typical benzema miss

here are adebayor's stats with real madrid:
Adebenz.JPG


1 goal every 149 minutes, the best stats in his career
benzema is the most obvious and documented example of a player who plays because of his ethnicity or race
 

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on the cover of a french magazine, "l'equipe" (one of the most famous ones):

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they have on the cover every player that is currently in the french national team at the euro champs but who were refused by ligue 1 clubs and had to play in french 3rd division while the black security guards and the over-rated arab players were playing since 16 years old for big french clubs and for the national team

these players are giroud, ribery, valbuena, and koscielny



some of them atre tall and powerfull, others are small, some are fully french and come from relatively rural areas, others are poor and uneducated, but they all have something in common:

they are white (non arab too)


this is the kind of players that were wasted when france discriminated against whites ( http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/13607-French-Soccer?p=230956&viewfull=1#post230956 )

now valbuena plays for marseille, koscielny and giroud (hopefully) for arsenal, and ribery for bayern munchen
 

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as i said in another thread that arsene wenger was relatively white friendly which is not obvious when you look at how many black players arsenal had/has, i though i would explain a little bit more

i already showed that arsene wenger has/had great white players in his team and that if you compare the french players he bought with the french players that are bought by the big clubs (throught french scouts) he's pretty white friendly:
when he sold fabregas, he replaced him with arteta, another spanish middlefielder
this season he bought mertesacker
i think that he always had white goal keepers
he has a 100% white central defense
he buys french players, so ofcourse there are blacks amongst them, but he also bought koscielny, squillaci, maybe giroud in the future
back in the day there was robert pires, gilles grimandi (i think that now he is in charge of the scouting for the club), emmanuel petit (nicknamed the viking), flamini


i watched tons of matches with wenger as a commentator, and he is often asked to say what he thinks about english football here, and i pretty much always agreed with him, and he often puts over-rated black players in their place (he commented the 2010 world cup)
he's the kind of guy who is not affraid to say that african football is inferior to european football, that some arab players are too selfish, he said that capello should have been able to choose his captain without any pressure, and when asked about the next coach he said that he should be an english coach because english coaches might not be superior to the others, but it's better to go to a competition like the euro champs with a guy who is from the country he will represent

he also supported john terry when he insulted anton ferdinand

regarding the french quotats scandal, he said that he was against quotats (increasing the number of white and arab players at the expense of the blacks), because the best players should play regardless of skin colour
without quotats, there would be no black players in the french national team, our black players are token black players
he said that spain helped reminding everybody that football is a skill sport, which is exactly what the french who discussed about the "quotats" said, so he agrees with the main point

wenger is not the worst, there are others french currently who work for manchester united and chelsea, they are responsible for gael kakuta playing for chelsea, lassana diarra also probably, pogba to manchester united, ngog to liverpool, mavinga to liverpool also, gabriel obertan to manchester united, and a lot more
meanwhile, gilles grimandi has been spotted in a montpellier match to watch olivier giroud, he also wants gonalons


then i said that he probably hires black players for financial reasons

here is an interesting story that happened in france:

[video=youtube_share;FS2Xw13hw5U]http://youtu.be/FS2Xw13hw5U[/video]

i will translate what happened:

jean michel larqué (a french commentator) was talking about arsenal on a radio show
he said that arsene wenger told him about a story which shows why arsenal is so obsessed with money
he said that arsene wenger told him that he realized that the owners of the club are all jewish , and that he understood that money was very important for them when he saw them negociating with emirates

the jews in france weren't very happy to hear this :laugh:
they sued larqué
 

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It seems that France's White players are mostly small-town boys from remote, provincial parts of the country. They include Ribery, Yoann Gourcuff, Mathieu Debuchy, Olivier Giroud, Jeremy Mathieu. Laurent Koscielny, who is France's best central defender right now, is from a small town called Tulle with a population of only 15,000.

Almost all of the Arab and Black players are from major urban areas: Nasri, Benzema, Ben Arfa, Abou Diaby, Lassana Diarra, Nicolas Anelka, Eric Abidal, William Gallas all grew up in Paris, Lyon, or Marseille.

Arabs and Negroes don't monopolize French football. About 40% of the Ligue 1 players are White Frenchmen and another 10-15 percent are other Europeans and South Americans. About 40-45 percent are negroes. The French national team right now has a lot of Arabs, but there are hardly any Arabs in French league football - they only make up about 5 percent of the total players.
 
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It seems that France's White players are mostly small-town boys from remote, provincial parts of the country. They include Ribery, Yoann Gourcuff, Mathieu Debuchy, Olivier Giroud, Jeremy Mathieu. Laurent Koscielny, who is France's best central defender right now, is from a small town called Tulle with a population of only 15,000.

giroud grew up in a very small "city"
the city is called "froges" and it has a population of 3000
i read an interesting magazine about him, where he talks about how coming from a rural area was hard because grenoble is not a big city, but it's bigger than froges and there are a lot of blacks and arabs and the city is pretty violent

i will probably translate the best parts of the article when i will have more time

i have a similar story to him except that i was born in grenoble but my parents come from rural areas
a picture of froges:
piste-cyclabe-froges-dent-crolles.jpg


here is a view on google maps of where he grew up: http://maps.google.fr/maps?q=froges...d3D1B06ooSSxs524BlPTsg&cbp=12,324.56,,0,-0.35

that's the kind of place where you still finds old guys who speak with the caricatural local accent
http://youtu.be/gDK1GKy2Rlg
 

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The only White Frenchmen that I know that are from Paris are Jeremy Menez, Marvin Martin, and Benoit Cheyrou. The vast majority of White French players seem to come from quiet, small towns. Some other Frenchmen like Philippe Mexes and Jeremy Toulalan come from other big cities like Nantes.

I thought that Jeremy Menez is from Brittany. But he's actually a Parisian of a family that came from Brittany. This is what I expected because Menez doesn't look or behave like a nice small-town kid. On the football pitch, he behaves like a negro at times. He's a yellow card magnet: he got 12 yellow cards in Ligue 1 last season even though he's an attacking player who doesn't get into a lot of challenges. Which is a shame because there were a lot of hopes that he'd be a superstar.
 

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The only White Frenchmen that I know that are from Paris are Jeremy Menez, Marvin Martin, and Benoit Cheyrou. The vast majority of White French players seem to come from quiet, small towns. Some other Frenchmen like Philippe Mexes and Jeremy Toulalan come from other big cities like Nantes.

I thought that Jeremy Menez is from Brittany. But he's actually a Parisian of a family that came from Brittany. This is what I expected because Menez doesn't look or behave like a nice small-town kid. On the football pitch, he behaves like a negro at times. He's a yellow card magnet: he got 12 yellow cards in Ligue 1 last season even though he's an attacking player who doesn't get into a lot of challenges. Which is a shame because there were a lot of hopes that he'd be a superstar.

there is something that i just realized: menez can be a bretton name?
i always thought menez was of spanish origin because menez is a spanish name but aparently it can also be a britton name
i don't know brittany very well and their names are in a foreign language so sometimes it's hard to know

anyways, menez is very inconsistent, otherwise he's very good
his season at paris saint germain was great, now let's see what he can do in champions league
the only match france won in these euro champs was because of him, he scored a goal by himself against ukraine and that's the goal that allowed "us" to win
but he has been criticized a lot for this match because he was lazy and arrogant
he should have been shown a red card too, if it wasn't against ukraine he would have been sent off before half time

Menez was lucky to escape a red card when he went in late on Yehven Selin moments after being booked for fouling Shevchenko. Referee Kuipers showed leniency, so it was doubly harsh on Ukraine that Menez should open the scoring, shortly after Shevchenko shaved the angle of bar and post with a powerful shot.

http://www.thefa.com/England/Tourna...012-news/2012/euro-2012-ukraine-france-report


even more nocious than his insult to the referee vs spain is the fact that he said the same thing to a team mate, his captain hugo lloris, who told him to do is part of defensive duty:
http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2012/0...re-enculer-mvila-laurent-blanc_n_1623607.html
 
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in the big cities blacks are the majority amongst football players, with arabs a close second in the small cities, there are few blacks but i'd say that arabs are more than 50% of the football players

The youth team of PSG is disgusting. It is shameful that the coaches are White and that they pick these Black kids, who will amount to nothing in the future. Also, a lot of these kids wouldn't even play for French national team, but would go on to represent Black countries like Cameroon or Mali.

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Let's just take a look at the France U-17 team of 2004. The French team contained 4 Whites, 5 Arabs, and 3 Blacks. Although the negro Kevin Constant scored a goal in the 2004 final, he hasn't done much since then. He finally started to play top-flight football with Serie A team Chievo in 2010. The other negroes in that squad Steven Thicot and Serge Ognadon Akakpo are also failures, having played for small, worthless clubs in places like Scotland and Romania. Three of the Arab players from that team Nasri, Ben Arfa, and Benzema have of course gone on to have successful careers, while two of the other Arab players have accomplished nothing. The White players Jeremy Menez, Benoit Costil, Thomas Mangani have had successful careers in the top flight, while Pierre Ducasse started out decently with Bordeaux and Monaco, but he has regressed to a 2nd division team. So based on this, the policy of recruiting Blacks is not going to be a successful one.

Fortunately, not all youth sides are as hideous as the one of PSG. This is Bordeaux's youth side, most of which is White with some Arabs and only 2 or 3 negroes.

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Lyon's youth squad is problematic, but nowhere as much as that of PSG:

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Antoine Griezmann, a winger, right now is France's best U-21 player. But he was discriminated against by the negro-loving youth developers because he was supposedly "too small" to succeed in the top flight. So the scouts from Spanish club Real Sociedad saw him play and signed him at age 14. He's been a big success in the Spanish Primera, the boy has amazing technique and intelligence. He's got 15 goals, 8 assists in 77 games since Real Sociedad were promoted to the Primera in 2010.
 

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another key player in the youth squads was sebastien faure from lyon
but he suffered from racism too it seems, as lyon tried every black defender but all have been major failures
some of these blacks, like umtiti, are not older than sebastien faure so it makes no sense why lyon didn't try him
 

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Looking at France' U-21 squad right now, by far the most successful players are the Whites. I already showed that Griezmann is the best U-21 player from there. Remy Cabella from Montpellier is developing well - he started 16 games last season, as is Benjamin Stambouli. So is Lyon's Clement Grenier, who started 13 games last season. Sebastien Corchia is Sochaux's #1 right-back. Vincent Pajot is doing well at at Rennes. Except for Raphael Varane, none of the non-Whites stand out.
 

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i know that there are some paris saint germain fans here (well, at least 1) so here is a great video about their first season as a big european club (since the club was bought by rich arab owners):

http://vimeo.com/44187830

they need a new white striker for the next season, since gameiro left

that team will do damge in champions league
 

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while at the euro champs there is no talent on display, even with the pathetic defenses, here is pastore's first season with paris saint germain:

[video=youtube_share;812JpgvtcBY]http://youtu.be/812JpgvtcBY[/video]

this is talent
 
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