European Leagues' White-Black Ratios: 2011 - 2012

The Scottish Premier League kicked off on Saturday. Here are the ratios from the matches involving the Old Firm:

Rangers 1 Heart of Midlothian 1

RANGERS:

Started: 9 Whites (5 Scots), 1 black, 1 Arab

Finished: 9 Whites (6 Scots), 1 black, 1 Arab

HEARTS:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Scots), 1 black, 1 Arab

Finished: 9 Whites (1 Scot), 1 black, 1 Arab

Hibernian 0 Celtic 2

HIBS:

Started: 10 Whites (6 Scots), 1 black

Finished: 9 Whites (6 Scots), 2 blacks

CELTIC:

Started: 7 Whites (2 Scots), 1 black, 1 Amerindian, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli

Finished: 7 Whites (3 Scots), 1 black, 1 Amerindian, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli

Of the dutch players in the higheste league in Holland 70% is white again, 190 out of 271.last year it was 70% also year before that 66 % I tought or 67 %.

I noticed that Napoli has 2 black "Italians" on their team, at least as of May. Nicilao Dumitru was born in Sweden and moved to Italy as child. This is what is happening to Europe now. He qualifies as Italian. He's neither Swedish nor Italian. It doesn't look like he is even half Swedish. Fabiano Santacroce was born in Brazil to an Italian father and Brazilian mother. Now that the son can make a lot of money in Italy, they decide to move to Italy. Instead of allowing Americans of Italian descent move to Italy , they are allowing all these Third World people.

Europe - Blacks are slowly creeping out of the woodwork all over the continent. The two that You mentioned have made appearances for Italy at youth levels...

I was looking up Fabian Johnson, who was just named to the US team, and I found this picture of his German team. Take a look at the forwards. It's like they have decided forwards are black and midfielders are white. I didn't do the count on how many Germans are on the team, but it looks like they are loaded with foreigners.

[video]http://www.achtzehn99.de/kader-profis/[/video]

Starting lineups in this weekend's games.

Those counted as South Americans must either be of European descent or mixed with Indians (Edinson Cavani, Esteban Cambiasso, Alexis Sanchez, Rafinha, Radamel Falcao, etc).

South American Blacks are counted as Black (Michel Bastos, Robinho, Jefferson Farfan, etc)

Those counted as Muslims are Turks, Algerians, Moroccans. (Ozil, Adil Rami, Benzema, etc). The very few Bosnian Muslims and Albanians (Miralem Pjanic, Blerim Dzemaili) are counted as White.

To simplify things, descendants of White immigrants are counted as belonging to the nationality whose country they live in. (Marco Caligiuri=German; Sebastien Corchia=French)

Spain:

Barcelona: 6 Whites (6 Spanish), 4 South Americans, 1 Black

Real Madrid: 6 Whites (3 Spanish), 2 South Americans, 2 Muslims, 1 Black

Valencia: 6 Whites (5 Spanish), 3 South Americans, 1 Black, 1 Muslim,

Villarreal: 9 Whites (8 Spanish), 2 South Americans

Seville: 8 Whites (6 Spanish), 3 South Americans

Atletico Madrid: 7 Whites (4 Spanish), 3 South Americans, 1 Black.

Total: 63% White, 25% South Americans, 5% Black, 5% Muslims

48% of the total are native Spanish players.

Italy:
AC Milan: 9 Whites (8 Italians), 1 South American, 1 Black

Inter: 1 White (0 Italians), 9 South Americans, 1 Japanese

Napoli: 6 Whites (5 Italians), 4 South Americans, 1 Muslim.

Udinese: 8 Whites (4 Italians), 1 South American, 2 Blacks

Roma: 8 Whites (6 Italians), 3 South Americans

Juventus: 11 Whites (10 Italians)

Total: 64% White, 27% South American, 5% Black.

50% of the total are native Italians

Germany:
Dortmund: 9 Whites (5 Germans, 3 Poles), 1 Japanese, 1 Muslim

Leverkusen: 8 Whites (8 Germans), 1 South American, 1 Black, 1 Muslim

Bayern: 8 Whites(7 Germans), 1 South American, 2 Blacks

Hannover: 9 Whites (7 Germans), 1 Black, 1 Muslim

Mainz: 8 Whites (5 Germans), 1 Black, 1 South American, 1 Muslim

Nurnberg: 9 Whites (7 Germans), 1 South American, 1 Black

Total: 77% White, 9% Black, 9% Muslim, 6% South American.

59% of the total are native Germans.

Out of the 6 Black players above, 4 are half-caste bastards born to German mothers (Boateng, Sidney Sam, Choupo-Moting, Chandler). What's going on in Germany?

France:
Lille: 6 Whites (4 French), 5 Blacks

Marseille: 4 Whites (3 French), 1 South American, 6 Blacks

Lyon: 6 Whites (4 French), 5 Blacks

Paris Saint-Germain: 4 Whites (3 French) 3 South Americans, 4 Blacks

Sochaux: 7 Whites (7 French), 2 Blacks, 2 Muslims

Rennes: 4 Whites (4 French), 7 Blacks

Total: 47% White, 6% South American, 3% Muslim, 44% Black.

38% of the total are native French players.

I don't understand the methodology in the post above.
In my opinion South American Whites should count as "White" - fullstop! Forlan or Zanetti from Inter are White. If we are classifying players by race, race should count, not the continent where they come from.
When an all-White (or overwhelmingly-white) team from Argentina or Uruguay plays against a mostly back or mixed-race (at best) team from France/England/Netherlands, I will suport the South Americans any day as I will consider the "European" sides to be fraudulent. Argentina and Uruguay often field some of the whitest teams in the World Cup.

In my opinion South American Whites should count as "White" - fullstop! Forlan or Zanetti from Inter are White

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Argentina, Uruguay, and Chile are pretty homogeneous with their populations, compared to the sort of racial hierarchy that exists in Brazil and Colombia. How exactly are we supposed to know which Argentine is of 100% European ancestry? Such information is not easily available.

Cambiasso looks like he is of 100% European descent, while the likes of Tevez, Angel Di Maria, and Aguero look like they may have some Indian descent. What is the point of separating them into different races? They're all considered Argentines and more broadly South Americans to people outside Argentina.

So to simplify things, I count all Whites and mestizos from Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, etc as South American

Sky said:

Argentina, Uruguay, and Chile are pretty homogeneous with their populations, compared to the sort of racial hierarchy that exists in Brazil and Colombia. How exactly are we supposed to know which Argentine is of 100% European ancestry? Such information is not easily available.

Cambiasso looks like he is of 100% European descent, while the likes of Tevez, Angel Di Maria, and Aguero look like they may have some Indian descent. What is the point of separating them into different races? They're all considered Argentines and more broadly South Americans to people outside Argentina.

So to simplify things, I count all Whites and mestizos from Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, etc as South American

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i think for example rebajlo did a good job on seeing who is white and who is not in south america
sometimes it's hard
but you can ask other members their opinion
it's hard even in europe
recently i didn't know how to classify marvin martin, and cabaye who looks white but is 1/4 asian
the brazilian are quite easy to classify, i think the hardest are the argentines
in chile there are very few whites
regarding argentines, the problem for some of them is that they are from spain or south italy
di maria is from sicily i think, so it's hard to tell if he is 100% european

tevez is mestizo

aguero is of basque descent

Sky said:

France:
Lille: 6 Whites (4 French), 5 Blacks

Marseille: 4 Whites (3 French), 1 South American, 6 Blacks

Lyon: 6 Whites (4 French), 5 Blacks

Paris Saint-Germain: 4 Whites (3 French) 3 South Americans, 4 Blacks

Sochaux: 7 Whites (7 French), 2 Blacks, 2 Muslims

Rennes: 4 Whites (4 French), 7 Blacks

Total: 47% White, 6% South American, 3% Muslim, 44% Black.

38% of the total are native French players.

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you forgot the best one

nancy - auxerre

i think this match was interesting from a racial point of view

auxerre: 7 blacks, 1 arab, 3 whites
substitutions: 2 whites out and 3 blacks in

nancy: 10 blacks, 1 white (rumanian niculae)
substitutions: 1 black and 2 whites in

the result was a good old 0-0, and the match was criticised for being of very low level
http://www.eatliver.com/img/2005/573.jpg

how can a soccer fan watch a match with zero skilled players, zero players with charisma , that have often the same name (2 "traore" for example in this match) ?
the answer is simple: nobody watch these matches
this is why soccer is becoming less popular by the minute in france

What on earth is going on with the Portuguese league? Their top teams these days (Sporting Lisbon, Benfica, Porto) contain hardly any Portuguese players. Compare this to how Porto won the 2004 CL Final with mostly native Portuguese players. Out of this team came world-class players like Carvalho and Deco. What is the future of Portuguese football after the golden generation of 2000-2006?

Here were their lineups last weekend:

Porto: 1 White (1 Portuguese, Moutinho), 6 Blacks, 4 South Americans

Benfica: 1 White (0 Portuguese), 8 South Americans, 2 Blacks

Sporting Lisbon: 5 Whites (2 Portuguese, 2 Dutch, 1 Spanish), 4 South Americans 2 Blacks,

Sky01 said:

What on earth is going on with the Portuguese league? Their top teams these days (Sporting Lisbon, Benfica, Porto) contain hardly any Portuguese players. Compare this to how Porto won the 2004 CL Final with mostly native Portuguese players. Out of this team came world-class players like Carvalho and Deco. What is the future of Portuguese football after the golden generation of 2000-2006?

Here were their lineups last weekend:

Porto: 1 White (1 Portuguese, Moutinho), 6 Blacks, 4 South Americans

Benfica: 1 White (0 Portuguese), 8 South Americans, 2 Blacks

Sporting Lisbon: 5 Whites (2 Portuguese, 2 Dutch, 1 Spanish), 4 South Americans 2 Blacks,

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i watched this match, and i have to say that i enjoyed it.....
kleber scored in this match

deco is brazilian, of japanese origin
now he plays in fluminense
but yes, there were more portuguese in the team that won the champions league in 2004

Interesting about France's Sochaux having almost all White players in their last game, with 8 Whites, 2 Blacks, and 1 Arab.

The Corsican club Ajaccio 8 Whites, 1 Arab, 1 Mexican, and 1 Black. But so far it doesn't look like they'll survive, as they were only promoted from Ligue 2 last season.

a little racial breakdown about the two top teams in spain, barcelona and real madrid, in their last matches

sevilla- real madrid 2-6

sevilla:
0blacks
2 mestizos (caceres the uruguayan, probably of paraguayan origin, and gary medel the chilean, but medel could be considered white)
9 whites (including bosnian emir spahic and gipsy jesus navas)

2 whites and one black came in

real madrid:

3 blacks (1 really black, 2 brazilian indian-black mixed)
7 whites
1 arab

1 white and 2 arab came in (altintop is turk, not arab, but i will put him in this category)

barcelona-rayo vallecano 4-0

rayo vallecano:
1 black
1 mestizo
9 whites

3 whites came in

barcelona:

7 whites
2 mestizos (alves is slightly part black, but i will put him in the mestizo category)
2 blacks

2 mestizos (both part black) and one white came in



barcelona will probably have only one black in champions league, keita shouldn't play, fabregas or busquets instead, so they have 8 whites/11 in the important matches

Celtic beat Rangers 1-0 at Parkhead last night, with a 52nd minute goal from Welsh midfielder Joe Ledley. The win puts Celtic on top of the table, two points clear of Rangers after 21 games.

Celtic 1 Rangers 0

CELTIC:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Scots), 1 black, 1 Israeli
Finished: 9 Whites (3 Scots), 1 black, 1 Asian

RANGERS:

Started: 9 Whites (4 Scots), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (3 Scots), 2 blacks

ac milan - internazionale
0 - 1 victory of internazionale

ac milan: 8 whites - 2 blacks - 1 mestizo (5 italians)
came in: 2 blacks and 1 arab


internazionale: 9 whites - 1 part black - 1 asian (the non whites play as winger, so the mistakes they will do can be repaired by a white defender before the other team scores, especially nagatomo)
(1 italian)
came in: 3 whites


incredible match by lucio, as usual

The other European leagues have a lot of foreigners just like in England. But in Italy and Spain, instead of bringing in Blacks, they go for crafty South American players, mostly from Argentina.

In Germany, a far higher percentage of the players are native Germans. And it seems that most of their foreigners come from other European countries, especially those in northern and eastern Europe. Take a look at the Monchengladbach squad, for example.

Basically, the Black-lover leagues in Europe are the English and French ones.

Line-ups in the last round of games.

France:

Paris SG - I like this team : 5 White Europeans (3 French), 4 South Americans, 2 Blacks.

Lyon: 4 White Europeans (3 French), 2 South Americans, 5 Blacks

Lille: 8 Whites (4 French), 3 Blacks

Marseille: 4 White Europeans (2 French), 1 South American, 5 Blacks, 1 mixed race

Montpellier: 4 White Europeans (4 French), 1 part-Arab, 1 South American, 5 Blacks.

Rennes: 4 White Europeans (4 French), 7 Blacks


Spain:

Real Madrid: 5 White Europeans (4 Spanish), 2 South Americans, 2 Muslims, 2 Blacks

Barca: 4 White Europeans (4 Spanish), 5 South Americans, 2 Blacks

Valencia: 5 White Europeans (5 Spanish), 4 South Americans, 2 Arabs

Osasuna: 9 White Europeans (8 Spanish), 1 Muslim, 1 Black

Espanyol: 7 White Europeans (6 Spanish), 2 South Americans, 2 Blacks

Levante: 7 White Europeans (7 Spanish), 2 South Americans, 1 Arab, 1 Black


Germany:

Schalke: 8 Whites (5 Germans), 1 Japanese, 2 Blacks

Bayern: 10 Whites (6 Germans), 1 Black

Monchengladbach: 10 Whites (6 Germans, 1 Austrian, 1 Dutch, 1 Belgian, 1 Norwegian), 1 South American

Dortmund: 10 Whites (5 Germans, 3 Poles), 1 Japanese

Werder Bremen: 9 Whites (5 Germans), 1 South American, 1 Turk.

Leverkusen: 9 Whites (8 Germans), 1 Black, 1 Turk

Italy:

Juventus: 10 White Europeans (8 Italians), 1 Chilean

Milan: 8 White Europeans (5 Italians), 1 S American, 2 Blacks

Inter: 2 White Europeans (1 Italian), 7 S Americans (5 Argentines) 1 Japanese, 1 Black

Udinese: 7 White Europeans (4 Italians), 2 S Americans, 2 Blacks

Lazio: 7 White Europeans (4 Italians), 4 South Americans

Roma: 6 Whites (4 Italians), 4 S Americans (3 Argentines), 1 Black

Strike said:

The Corsican club Ajaccio 8 Whites, 1 Arab, 1 Mexican, and 1 Black. But so far it doesn't look like they'll survive, as they were only promoted from Ligue 2 last season.

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when you wrote this, ajaccio was hopeless
at the 16th journey, they were 6 points away from the 17th place
(the clubs placed 20th, 19th and 18th go to ligue 2 at the end of the season)

now, at the 21th journey, they are 15th

i hope that scandalously black teams like auxerre and nancy go to ligue 2, and not ajaccio

for example in their last matches
auxerre: 4 blacks + 3 arabs (including an israeli) as titular
nancy: 6 blacks as titular

both are less black than at the start of the season (maybe because of the african cup of nations? and because they want to survive) but they must be punished for playing with so many blacks

(at the start of the season both played with 10-9 blacks as titular)

it looks like real madrid is going to win the spanish league this year
they won today 4-2 against levante, with 3 goals from ronaldo, including a really beautiful one
[video=youtube;yGp6-HVvl8E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yGp6-HVvl8E[/video]

the teams in this match:

real madrid:
8 whites, 1 black (pepe the brazilian, part-black) and 2 arabs (including the turk ozil)
2 whites and 1 arab came in

5 spanish, 7 europeans

levante:
7 whites, 2 blacks, 1 arab and 1 mestizo
2 whites and 1 mestizo came in

6 spanish, 6 europeans


i wonder what do you think about mourinho, real madrid's coach?
since he is a controversial coach

borussia dortmund won the german league:


here is their starting 11 when they won it:

9 whites, 1 asian, 1 turk
finished 11 whites

they have a pretty good team (with gotze and hummels the germans and lewandowsky the polish), hopefully they will take champions league more seriously in the future

juventus won the serie A in italy thanks to a victory of internazionale over a disgusting ac milan team (by the way forlan wasn't even on the bench, like in every recent internazionale match, they try to say that forlan at an injury while training but i'm pretty sure that it's false)

juventus team in their victory over cagliari:

10 whites (8 italians) and 1 mestizo (chilean vidal)
2 whites (2 italians) and 1 mestizo (uruguayan caceres) came in

it looks like an italian team, so congratulations to them :thumb:


the official video of their season:

[video=youtube_share;jwH_SrPtiD8]http://youtu.be/jwH_SrPtiD8[/video]