Peyton Hillis

Tom Iron said:

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Agreed, by the 3rd, 4th quarters, most of the DLsmen are done in by this type of game. That's how the Jets did it last year and now Mangini means to do it. It'll work too, behind a guy like Hillis.



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You bet. This is why I predict the Brown may very well surprise everyone in the league. Yes, Hillis and his very good black fullback-sidekick, and Browns O-line (which looked pretty white), may very well lay waste the NFL this year. You bet the Dog-pound would love it. They already love Hillis. I'm going to be following the Browns this year closely unless they screw Hillis. My ole Steelers of the 70's are long gone, replaced by a very black team I simply cannot relate to. Maybe the Browns will become my new team if they run Hillis.

I expect Hillis might start off pretty evenly splitting carries with Harrison, but as the number two back. However, if Hillis consistently plays like he did as a starter in Denver and Harrison is mediocre (4 YPC, with struggles between the tackles and more runs for loss or no gain than is acceptable- despite showing some home run potential?) I'm optimistic Hillis could play his way to starting and earning a little more than half the carries. Hillis is showing his stuff again and the fans LOVE him. I really feel this is the year a white back breaks through and busts 1,000 yards (Hillis?). I think Gerhart will show his skills as a VERY ELITE number two back for the Vikings and Woodhead might get a Kevin Faulk type role on the Jets. I expect Hester and Leonard to get virtually zero carries though unfortunately.

ToughJ.Riggins said:

I expect Hillis might start off pretty evenly splitting carries with Harrison, but as the number two back. However, if Hillis consistently plays like he did as a starter in Denver and Harrison is mediocre (4 YPC, with struggles between the tackles and more runs for loss or no gain than is acceptable- despite showing some home run potential?) I'm optimistic Hillis could play his way to starting and earning a little more than half the carries. Hillis is showing his stuff again and the fans LOVE him. I really feel this is the year a white back breaks through and busts 1,000 yards (Hillis?). I think Gerhart will show his skills as a VERY ELITE number two back for the Vikings and Woodhead might get a Kevin Faulk type role on the Jets. I expect Hester and Leonard to get virtually zero carries though unfortunately.

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I disagree about Leonard. He's firmly entrenched as the third down back. He made a lot of clutch plays last year and even the media and DWFs recognize his value, underutilized though it may be.

And don't forget Cleveland drafted Hardesty in the second round to be their starter. Not saying Hillis won't get touches, but if Hardesty gets healthy he is going to be in the mix, to Hillis's detriment.

Seems like some CFers are afflicted with their annual Polyanna fever based on preseason games. I think we need Pollyanna back posting for the rest of training camp. I'm going to be rooting for Hillis and every other White player as much as anyone, but this is the Caste NFL guys. Screwing White players is the league's unofficial motto though of course as always I hope this is the year the league begins to change.

Don, isn't Leonard injured again though?

I recall Leonard started off playing above average as a rookie for St. Louis (he originally matched the 3.9 YPC Jackson registered before SJ got injured- when Leonard was inserted as the starter he registered the 3.9 YPC with 4 offensive lineman starters out and with Bulger and Issac Bruce missing a game- allowing 8 men in the box to overpower the basically 2nd team o-line). Eventually Leonard's YPC went down to 3.5 YPC by the end of that season though.

Since then unfortunately- Leonard has injured his shoulder badly and last year Leonard's YPC was 2.7 or something and despite showing nice receiving skills has looked uninstinctive running the ball in very limited opportunity.

I think Leonard clearly has the TALENT to be an above average #2 RB with receiving skills being his biggest assett, but I expect the Bengals will pick Bernard Scott instead. Leonard should make this team as the third down back (ala a role like the much more diminutive Kevin Faulk still has), but I think since BL is injured again the Bengals could surprise and cut him- if he doesn't get healthy soon- to "balance" out the whitening of their WR corps. This is the National Farce League after all.

Don, also- I wish no malice on Hardesty, but simply hope the Browns are OVERLY cautious about rushing him back while Hillis continues to dominate and get fan support. If this happens the fans and even some of the caste media may start pushing for Hillis to have a big role during the season, actually it is starting a bit already. Also, remember that it was formerly Mangini's Jets- whom Hillis ran all over while on Denver, despite the Jets having what (the #1 rushing D?). Pollyanna says this is the year!

Well, I do sense continuing pressure building against the Caste System and Hillis is as good a candidate as we have to end the 25 year drought when it comes to White RBs cracking 1,000 yards, but considering no White RBs have even been allowed to start other than on an "emergency" basis for so long. . . But if Hardesty continues to be injured Hillis does have a shot. I just hope he doesn't overdo it though. Running hard is good, but not to the point of being a kamikaze. I'd like to see him do more cutting, which he showed he could do in Denver, and a littleless headbanging.

White receivers continue to shine almost every time they see the field. Max Komarand Marc Mariani comeout of nowhere, at least as far as the media and DWFs are concerned, andare immediately go-to receivers. Isn't it "odd" how almost all White receivers become go-to guys when they're "allowed" to play?

There are a lot of factors currently working against the Caste System -- continued White excellence and determination in what has always been a sport White men excel at; ever-growing black dysfunction in the wider society and a shrinking pool of black talent; the decline of black football players, aided by the league's racial spoils system, which pampers blacks and lets them get away with being in poor condition and not having to adhere to fundamentals; a slow but growing disgust with black criminality off the field and selfishness and boorishness on it; and of course a growing awareness of the Caste System itself.

That being said, the NFL is an important part of the bigger picture of anti-White, Cultural Marxist and corporate control, and the Caste System isn't about to roll over. Just check the annual "purge of White talent" threads from past years. But the short- and long-term prognosis for the Caste System and its enablers isn't rosy.

I think that there's a growing number of people that aren't really interested in whether blacks are "superior" athletes (to Whites) -- but have finally decided that they won't support these psychotic negroes anymore.

They would welcome a White increase with open arms.

Don Wassall said:

Well, I do sense continuing pressure building against the Caste System and Hillis is as good a candidate as we have to end the 25 year drought when it comes to White RBs cracking 1,000 yards, but considering no White RBs have even been allowed to start other than on an "emergency" basis for so long. . . But if Hardesty continues to be injured Hillis does have a shot. I just hope he doesn't overdo it though. Running hard is good, but not to the point of being a kamikaze. I'd like to see him do more cutting, which he showed he could do in Denver, and a littleless headbanging.
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<div>White receivers continue to shine almost every time they see the field. Max Komarand Marc Mariani comeout of nowhere, at least as far as the media and DWFs are concerned, andare immediately go-to receivers. Isn't it "odd" how almost all White receivers become go-to guys when they're "allowed" to play? </div>
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<div>There are a lot of factors currently working against the Caste System -- continued White excellence and determination in what has always been a sport White men excel at; ever-growing black dysfunction in the wider society and a shrinking pool of black talent; the decline of black football players, aided by the league's racial spoils system, which pampers blacks and lets them get away with being in poor condition and not having to adhere to fundamentals; a slow but growing disgust with black criminality off the field and selfishness and boorishness on it; and of course a growing awareness of the Caste System itself.</div>
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<div>That being said, the NFL is an important part of the bigger picture of anti-White, Cultural Marxist and corporate control, and the Caste System isn't about to roll over. Just check the annual "purge of White talent" threads from past years. But the short- and long-term prognosis for the Caste System and its enablers isn't rosy. </div>
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As usual, another great post, Don.

Don Wassall said:

  I just hope he doesn't overdo it though.  Running hard is good, but not to the point of being a kamikaze.  I'd like to see him do more cutting, which he showed he could do in Denver, and a little less headbanging.

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Don, we were thinking on the exact same wave length. I just posted about Hillis' "blasting" style as opposed to Gerhart's style. If he ever gets a chance again to be a starting tailback again, I hope that he keeps staying healthy in mind. The Kamikaze style is entertaining, but he just won't have a very long career if he embraces such a style. I'm sure he knows that the more attention he gets the better right now. I love how he did a little chest pumping after that great run last week - usually I hate that stuff, but in today's NFL I guess you have to toot your own horn once in awhile.

Noticed on some college fb boards, even random MSU and U-M fans were praising Hillis after seeing him play against the Lions.

I agree with you guys. I still think Hillis has good X-Y agility and solid X-Z agility for a back his size and seems to have amazing instincts and vision. Hillis' top asset is his bursting one cut ability, to hit the seam- and then truck defenders though. However, I hope he can find a healthier balance.

It's amazing the talent and competitiveness Hillis has when carrying the ball. He knows that is his best position, and I hope the utilizes all his potential this year and really breaks down some barriers. Because of Gerhart last year I believe college coaches feel less of a risk starting a white RB, and if Hillis can do the same type of thing for the Browns in the 2010 NFL, then I think it will open more doors for stud RBs to make it in the NFL.

That's what I'm hoping for Electric Slide...a chain reaction!! Who knows...in a few years the NFL may be ready to give legit shots to McGuffie, Burkhead &amp; Wegher as running backs?? No doubt Hillis canhit the 1,000 yard mark if given enough opportunity &amp; he stays healthy. This 25 year drought needs to be put on the shelf! It's sickening!

Fantastic post yall!

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That's what I'm hoping for Electric Slide...a chain reaction!! Who knows...in a few years the NFL may be ready to give legit shots to McGuffie, Burkhead &amp; Wegher as running backs?? No doubt Hillis canhit the 1,000 yard mark if given enough opportunity &amp; he stays healthy. This 25 year drought needs to be put on the shelf! It's sickening!
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<div>Fantastic post yall!</div>

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Yes it's been so long since we had a white thousand yard runner that it almost wants to make you cry. Alstott was very close one time but it didn't happen.

Yeah Don, we need a little bit of Polyanna and his alter ego White Noise "flava" right now. He was sure funny as Polyanna. Hopefully he returns.

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Well, I do sense continuing pressure building against the Caste System and Hillis is as good a candidate as we have to end the 25 year drought when it comes to White RBs cracking 1,000 yards, but considering no White RBs have even been allowed to start other than on an "emergency" basis for so long. . . But if Hardesty continues to be injured Hillis does have a shot.  I just hope he doesn't overdo it though.  Running hard is good, but not to the point of being a kamikaze.  I'd like to see him do more cutting, which he showed he could do in Denver, and a little less headbanging.
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<div>White receivers continue to shine almost every time they see the field.  Max Komar and Marc Mariani come out of nowhere, at least as far as the media and DWFs are concerned, and are immediately go-to receivers.  Isn't it "odd" how almost all White receivers become go-to guys when they're "allowed" to play?  </div>
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<div>There are a lot of factors currently working against the Caste System -- continued White excellence and determination in what has always been a sport White men excel at; ever-growing black dysfunction in the wider society and a shrinking pool of black talent; the decline of black football players, aided by the league's racial spoils system, which pampers blacks and lets them get away with being in poor condition and not having to adhere to fundamentals; a slow but growing disgust with black criminality off the field and selfishness and boorishness on it; and of course a growing awareness of the Caste System itself.</div>
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<div>That being said, the NFL is an important part of the bigger picture of anti-White, Cultural Marxist and corporate control, and the Caste System isn't about to roll over.  Just check the annual "purge of White talent" threads from past years.  But the short- and long-term prognosis for the Caste System and its enablers isn't rosy. </div>
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Funny thing. Offhand, my memory is that white running backs did better in the 1970's than did white wide receivers. Csonka and Riggins were two of the biggest names of the era and Rocky Bleirer got a fair amount of touches, and was very popular (in large part from being a wounded Vietnam veteran), lining up beside Franco Harris.

Don Wassall said:

Well, I do sense continuing pressure building against the Caste System and Hillis is as good a candidate as we have to end the 25 year drought when it comes to White RBs cracking 1,000 yards, but considering no White RBs have even been allowed to start other than on an "emergency" basis for so long. . . But if Hardesty continues to be injured Hillis does have a shot.  I just hope he doesn't overdo it though.  Running hard is good, but not to the point of being a kamikaze.  I'd like to see him do more cutting, which he showed he could do in Denver, and a little less headbanging.
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<div>White receivers continue to shine almost every time they see the field.  Max Komar and Marc Mariani come out of nowhere, at least as far as the media and DWFs are concerned, and are immediately go-to receivers.  Isn't it "odd" how almost all White receivers become go-to guys when they're "allowed" to play?  </div>
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<div>There are a lot of factors currently working against the Caste System -- continued White excellence and determination in what has always been a sport White men excel at; ever-growing black dysfunction in the wider society and a shrinking pool of black talent; the decline of black football players, aided by the league's racial spoils system, which pampers blacks and lets them get away with being in poor condition and not having to adhere to fundamentals; a slow but growing disgust with black criminality off the field and selfishness and boorishness on it; and of course a growing awareness of the Caste System itself.</div>
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<div>That being said, the NFL is an important part of the bigger picture of anti-White, Cultural Marxist and corporate control, and the Caste System isn't about to roll over.  Just check the annual "purge of White talent" threads from past years.  But the short- and long-term prognosis for the Caste System and its enablers isn't rosy. </div>
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Another articulate and accurate post from our leader.

Peyton Hillis simply has "it." As much as Wes Welker or Peyton Manning have "it." Or the way that Mike Hass had "it" at Oregon State. Hillis is a special football player. As you mentioned, he's been racially denied of opportunities to succeed (even under Houston Nutt at Arkansas)"¦but I have a strange feeling that we haven't seen the last of his dominance.

Also, I too sense an ominous future for the Caste System.

Does anyone know what happened to Dwid?

This is about the best I've heard from Rotoworld:

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It doesn't necessarily mean he's going to challenge for a lot of
first-team reps during the season, but Hillis did see significant action
in the red zone Saturday. Hillis' value is in his versatility, and we
would expect to see him to get a few carries, including some red zone
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God forbid that a White Man, no matter how much better of a Running Back he is than any of the black on the team, ever be given a chance to be the featured runner, lest he might actually put the affletes to shame.

That's really stretching it for those unathletic morons from rotoworld....They want to pigeon-hole Hillis into a Brian Leonard-type role as a Third-down back. That's a load of crap! How about has shown capable of being a feature-back?? In the caste world he's a third-down back.

Timing for Hillis at Arkansas was bad with McFadden &amp; Felix Jones...Hillis was lengendary in HS! As you said Thrashen...he's got "it"...he's the total package as I've said on other post!

Just curious what he's weighing these days?? He's best at 235-240...some rosters have him 250...the prefered weight for caste whores who would move him to fullback if they could!

I think Hillis has landed at a good place; esp with Vickers such a good blocker already. Do not feel sorry for Denver &amp; Emenim one bit!

It seems like no matter how well a white man does at a skill position, there is always a "ceiling" - an artificial boundary on the amount of success he is allowed to have.

Talented white running backs, if they are VERY lucky, are allowed to be 3rd down backs sometimes or play sometimes in the case of an injury. A white man is never allowed to be the featured runner, and especially they are never allowed to be PLANNED as the featured runner. White running backs are only allowed to play in the case of an "emergency" and it is essential for them to be replaced at the first possible opportunity, for fear that the sky will fall.

For a long time talented wide receivers have been projected almost exclusively as slot receivers in the NFL. There are many elite white slot receivers in the NFL such as Wes Welker but others such as Jordy Nelson who are better on the outside but the NFL's instinct is always to put the white man in the slot, because whites are "crafty possession receivers" who aren't "explosive" enough to play the outside.
Once again the white is kept out of the "spotlight" of being a featured target and getting his name announced on TV in the starting lineup. This also creates the impression of the white guy in the slot being a "last resort" when the go-to black receivers are covered. Many "analysts" have tried to blame Wes Welker's success on the threat of Randy Moss, saying the Patriots only threw to Welker so much because Moss was always double-teamed. Fortunately, this has been proven wrong as teams have been game planning against Wes Welker and they STILL can't stop him, although Moss has declined greatly after his initial bit of success.

Talented white safeties and especially corners are often relegated to "nickleback" type roles, where they quietly come into the game on the 2nd or 3rd play of the game and make plays on defense all game...while the overrated, overhyped black player gets his name showered with praise during the pre-game introductions but does little to help his team. Eric Weddle is one of the best Free Safeties in the NFL but he too had to serve a few years in the apprenticeship of being a nickleback. Ditto for Jim Leonhard who has also emerged as a star at least in terms of his performance on the field if not media attention.

This is actually a reality for white defensive players at all positions. Some notable examples that we discuss on the site or Kroy Biermann and Brian Robison who quietly outperform the black starters on a routine basis but don't get any of the praise or glory that comes with being an afflete. Then the DWF will look at a team's depth chart and see 10 or 11 black starters and assume that white people can't play defense.

In contrast, affletes are given the starting job as soon as they get drafted usually even if they are a very late draft pick and it takes YEARS of poor performance to see them get replaced, if ever. This is true at every position but especially on the offensive line and on defense although it happens at every position.


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ToughJ.Riggins said:

Hillis is perfect for a one cut and run zone blocking type system and you know he finishes runs! Hillis could probably do similar to how Terrell Davis did in Denver and in fact they are both fairly similar type players. Hillis= better than Mike Anderson and Reuben Drougns for sure.

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I was watching footage of Davis the other day (not the highlights with the close ups and weird angles) but a recorded game, and Davis looked very similar to Hillis, Davis might have been slightly more agile, but Hillis is about 40 pounds heavier and has more power. I really think had he stayed in Denver and was used as a feature back, he could have put up Davis type numbers, like the 2000 yard season where he avg 5.1 ypc. Hillis would never get 390+ carries though, but he can average 5+ ypc, so all he needs is 200 carries to go over the 1k mark.

Not familiar with the Brown's run blocking but I imagine he will be able to do similar things over there. Right now he seems like he is running pist off, probably because he didn't get the ball last year. I know people are worried about this kamikaze style but I think he will be able to hold up without injury. He knows how to use his pads to hit someone, that hit he put on the chiefs defender in 08, it looked like he was the db hitting an offensive player, rather than the other way around. I am sure once he gets settled in he will find a balance and use more of the style he had with Denver, particularly the Jets game, where he didn't always blast into a defender,at times he ran the similar to what Kaptain Poop said about Gerhart and Riggins.
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I really think had he stayed in Denver and was used as a feature back, he could have put up Davis type numbers, like the 2000 yard season where he avg 5.1 ypc. Hillis would never get 390+ carries though, but he can average 5+ ypc, so all he needs is 200 carries to go over the 1k mark.

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It seems to be a much better situation in Cleveland. Not only that, but under the McEminem regime, Denver has departed from the zone-blocking scheme for the most part, as evidenced by the increasing size of the O-linemen. Watch the Donks when you can, and you'll notice a stark difference in blocking schemes than in the past. Part of it is that McEminem prefers a more traditional QB pocket-passing game, like New England, and the 1 cut-and-run apparently doesn't highlight Blowshawn Moreno's alleged strengths. That said, it's probably not the best blocking system for Tim Tebow, either.

Yeah that is what I meant, had he stayed in Denver under Shanahan. He was obviously never going to get a shot with McDaniels as a coach, one fumble on kickoff return and he was permanently in the dog house. Shanahan would'nt have drafted a back in the first. I have wondered if Shanahan would still have been fired if Hillis had not gotten injured on that freak catch. They probably would have won the rest of their games and Hillis could have wound up with between 600 and 700 rushing yards for the regular season and they might have done something in the playoffs.

Apparently no blocking scheme highlights Moreno's style. They ran some zone last year, Moreno looked average either way. I have been upset McDaniels but with him drafting Tebow and Decker this year I will try to be optomistic about next year. He said he has certain packages for Tebow, I am assuming some type of wildcat role.

It looks like Hillis has a shot to have a decent role this year for the Browns, I just hope he is used more than a "3rd down back", he might be our best shot of having a 1k runner this year, because for the Vikings Childress doesn't even want to classify Gerhart as a "3rd down back" saying him and Young are 2a and 2b.

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