2020 NFL Draft

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College football is here. I have gone through a few different sites and the Senior Bowl watch list to compile players to keep an eye out on. Right now the list only consists of seniors.


2020 NFL Draft

QB
Justin Herbert Oregon
Joe Burrow LSU
Jake Bentley S Car
Nathan Stanley Iowa
Brian Lewerke Mich St
Shea Patterson Mich
Ian Book Notre Dame
James Morgan FIU
Riley Neal Vanderbilt
Stephen Calvert Liberty
Nathan Rourke Ohio
Tommy Stevens Miss St
Blake Barnett USF


RB/FB
Cade Carney Wake Forest
Billy McCrary Abilene Christian
Otto Zaccardo Syracuse



WR
Chris Finke Notre Dame
Sal Canella Auburn
Ben Skoworonek Northwestern
Dalton Schoen KSU


TE
Harrison Bryant FAU
Mithcell Wilcox USF
Jacob Breeland Oregon
Jared Rice Fresno ST
Joey Magnifico Memphis
Charlie Woerner UGA
Sean McKeon Michigan
Luke Farrell Ohio St



OT
Trey Adams Washington
Calvin Throckmorton Oregon
Liam Eichenberg Notre Dame
Jon Runyan Michigan
Jack Driscoll Auburn
Scott Frantz Kansas St
Blake Brandel Oregon St
Colton McKivitz WVU
Matt Womack Alabama
Cole Chewins Mich State


OG
Tommy Kraemer Notre Dame
Ben Bredeson Michigan
Shane Lemiux Oregon
Sean Pollard Clemson
Logan Stenberg Kentucky
Gage Cervenka Clemson
Austin Kapps Arkansas

C
Jake Hanson Oregon
Zach Shackelford Texas



DT
Eli Hanback UVA
Mike Panasiuk Michigan St
Robert Windsor Penn St
Aaron Blackwell New Mexico
Garrett Marino UAB

DE
Kenny Willekes Michigan St
Carter Coughlin Minnesota
Joe Gaziano Northwestern
Scott Patchan Miami
Bryce Sterk Montana St

LB
Joe Bachie Michigan St
Evan Weaver Cal
Logan Wilson Wyoming
Cale Garret Missouri
Jordan Fehr App St
Dante Olson Montana
Christian Rozeboom South Dakota St
Kash Daniel Kentucky
Clay Johnston Baylor




S
Tanner Muse Clemson
Ben DeLuca Charlotte
Jeremy Fejedelem Air Force
Josh Sandry Montana
 
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After next week's games I will go through and start making some adjustments and adding/dropping players.

So far the play of QB Justin Herbert has been great - he just needs to stay consistent for the whole season - great player with huge potential.

Joe Burrow has taken it to another level - the best QB in the SEC and well on his way to 1st round status. I feel Tagilovoa is more of a game manager but isn't labeled that because he isn't white. It sounds as if Fromm will stay in school at this point - not a bad move as he can be QB1 in 2021.
 

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After next week's games I will go through and start making some adjustments and adding/dropping players.

So far the play of QB Justin Herbert has been great - he just needs to stay consistent for the whole season - great player with huge potential.

Joe Burrow has taken it to another level - the best QB in the SEC and well on his way to 1st round status. I feel Tagilovoa is more of a game manager but isn't labeled that because he isn't white. It sounds as if Fromm will stay in school at this point - not a bad move as he can be QB1 in 2021.

Thanks Leonardfan!

I checked out the latest 2020 mock NFL draft, just randomly chosen. CBS Sports had one updated about 5 hours ago. It looks like Oregan's Justin Herbert has supplaneted Tua Polynesian as the number 1 overall & number 1 QB. Don't know much about Herbert, but I'll link some highlights I can find.

[URL=https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-justin-herbert-replaces-tua-as-no-1-pick-panthers-draft-qb-as-cam-newtons-health-a-concern/[/URL]]2020 NFL Mock Draft: Justin Herbert replaces Tua as No. 1 pick

This was Justin Herbert's highest rated QBR game from last year defeated Cal 42-24. It's not east finding highlights that don't contain some over edited rap hip hop music, so I found this one. I think I found this one though. :)


Justin Herbert Full Coverage Oregon vs Cal || 9.29.18 |


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That’s nice to see but I wouldn’t trust CBS draft rankings, they’re usually HORRIBLE. I remember last draft they didn’t even have Maxx Crosby ranked prior to the draft and they had every white receiver with a 7th round or later grade. I really don’t trust anyone when it comes to draft prospects except for the guys here and maybe a few of the people on TV. However, most of them just go with whoever’s popular to uphold their ratings and seem like they’re in. Most of us here know who’s talented and who’s not.
 

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At the moment I see four QBs that all could end up in the top ten of the draft if everything falls into place. There could be six or seven chosen in the first round alone with at least three of them being non white.

To me there is no clear number one but so far I would say the top three in no particular order are Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow and Shea Patterson. I am higher on Patterson than most "draft gurus." He has a big test this Saturday against Wisconsin in a big noon matchup.
 

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Will Trevor Lawrence be eligible in the 2020 draft? Would he have a chance of being the top pick if he is?
 

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Lawrence will not be eligible for the draft until 2021. He is cited in most quarters as the number one pick and would likely be the number one pick for 2020 if he was eligible.
 

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At the moment I see four QBs that all could end up in the top ten of the draft if everything falls into place. There could be six or seven chosen in the first round alone with at least three of them being non white.

To me there is no clear number one but so far I would say the top three in no particular order are Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow and Shea Patterson. I am higher on Patterson than most "draft gurus." He has a big test this Saturday against Wisconsin in a big noon matchup.

I like Patterson as well - I believe he had an oblique injury which he should be recovered from. I think Michigan must win this game to keep Haurbaugh off the hot seat. No one is mentioning how Oklahoma almost lost to Army last year but made a huge deal about it when Michigan barely beat them.

His highlights from Ole Miss show a much more wide open/spread offense - his athleticism, arm strength and accuracy are all very good. In the Michigan highlights you can see some of the differences in the offense that is run - more traditional - less shotgun. Why Patterson is not being appreciated more is beyond me by the draft media weenies.

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I've noticed that there are fewer and fewer sites on the internet covering the draft. They seem to be disappearing. Every year there seems to be fewer. Also there may be sites that are filtered out.
 

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I've noticed that there are fewer and fewer sites on the internet covering the draft. They seem to be disappearing. Every year there seems to be fewer. Also there may be sites that are filtered out.

The draft coverage is changing for sure. The web "1.0" has been replaced by the web "2.0" Alot of the "experts" are now spewing their opinions on social media. Forums (like this one) are not as popular as they once were. There are some newer sites and mainstays that do have their own rankings and commentary. Other sites are now offering more content behind paywalls. They are all pretty much the same though in terms opinions - the underlying theme of pushing the caste system remains.
 

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Just reviewing the Pro Football Focus mid season All American list and here are some seniors that made the list:

TE Jacob Breeland was first team - he unfortunately is out for the rest of the season with a knee injury. Might be healthy by OTAs/training camp if a team decides to draft him.

LB Cale Garrett is done for the year with a pectoral injury. He was graded as a mid season all american by Pro Football Focus. Hopefully he recovers from his injury in time for the senior bowl/combine. Could be a draft season riser.

S Tanner Muse listed as 2nd team

DT Garret Marino , LB Jan Johnson - listed as Honorable mention.
 

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Anti-white QB propoganda draft machine is starting up. Herbert has no warts if you ask me. The receiver position has been plagued with injuries and it has not impacted his production. Eason I think should stay for another year. He has all the tools just needs more experience:

Speaking with Bleacher Report's Matt Miller, an NFL scout said that Oregon senior QB Justin Herbert will "get someone fired."
"I've never understood the love with this kid," the evaluator said, later adding that Herbert "doesn't have it." An area scout echoed those concerns, telling Miller that the 6-foot-6, 233-pound senior "lacks a killer mentality." While we understand the question marks with Herbert -- he has underwhelmed at times -- it's fair to note that the physically-gifted signal-caller is in the midst of a strong season on the whole, having thrown for 1,602 yards (69.1% completions) with a 17/1 TD/INT ratio in six games. Herbert remains a very good bet to land in the first round, with upward stock mobility which could push him as high as a top-five selection should a pro squad fall in love with him during the spring evaluating process.


An NFL scout who spoke with Bleacher Report's Matt Miller said that he "[doesn't] think [he] love [Washington redshirt junior QB Jacob Eason's] mental makeup."
"People got too high on him when they weren't playing anyone, but he's really come back down to Earth," the evaluator said to Miller. Elaborating further on the 6-foot-6, 227-pound Eason's mental makeup, another scout told Miller that "[h]e's just not very mature and doesn't handle the little things well that you want at the position," going so far as to suggest that a return to school wouldn't be the worst thing for Eason this winter. The redshirt junior has thrown just three touchdown passes over his last three games. All of this said, Eason has arguably the strongest arm in the FBS, and we've seen the NFL wooed over by big arms before.
 

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I never get sick of saying I hate Matt Miller.

Yeah, I'll never forget his scouting report that said Luke Kuechly was a third rounder, on his good days. Laughable.
 

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In the next few weeks the Senior Bowl should start announcing invitees. This is hard draft to read - my feeling is that it will be similar to the notoriously anti-white 2015 draft which produced a ton of black busts and happened to be the blackest draft on record. Once the Senior Bowl invites start trickling out a clearer picture will emerge and then their will be those players who decided to forgo their final season of eligibility and put their name into the hat.

Probably the best news I have right now is that Herbert and Burrow are both doing very well and their stocks are rising. I was Herbert last week and came away very impressed. Hopefully both Burrow and Herbert end up in solid situations (unlike Mayfield and Darnold who are suffering due to issues within the organization and the lack of talent on the football field). I watched Eason vs. Utah and he needs another season - I hope he decides to stay and work on his game for one more year.
 

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The first 81 invites have gone out for the Senior Bowl.

So far these are the white players accepting invites:
LB Evan Weaver Cal
LB Carter Coughlin Minnesota
OL Ben Bartch St. John's (D-3 I believe) - perhaps another Ali Marpet?
TE Harrison Bryant FAU - he fits the prototype of the TEs currently dominating the NFL

Out of the first 20 names releases only the above 4 are white.
 

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The first 81 invites have gone out for the Senior Bowl.

So far these are the white players accepting invites:
LB Evan Weaver Cal
LB Carter Coughlin Minnesota
OL Ben Bartch St. John's (D-3 I believe) - perhaps another Ali Marpet?
TE Harrison Bryant FAU - he fits the prototype of the TEs currently dominating the NFL

Out of the first 20 names releases only the above 4 are white.

Nice list and it's impressive Bartch is gathering interest as a D3 OL. Both the LBs are Studs and if Bryant played at a bigger school he'd be a household name.
 

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A few more names trickling in for Senior Bowl invites:

OT Colton McKivitz WVU
OG Logan Stenberg Kentucky
TE Adam Trautman Dayton
 

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55 confirmed Senior Bowl invites out of the first 81 invitations sent out - only 8 are white players.
 

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Cincinnati TE Josiah Deguara will be at the senior bowl. I’ve been very high on him since the first time I saw him play last year. Former big time wide receiver in high school. He’s a smaller TE with a playing style like Aaron Hernandez when he was with the Patriots. Expect him to run a fast 40 time at the combine.
 

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Cincinnati TE Josiah Deguara will be at the senior bowl. I’ve been very high on him since the first time I saw him play last year. Former big time wide receiver in high school. He’s a smaller TE with a playing style like Aaron Hernandez when he was with the Patriots. Expect him to run a fast 40 time at the combine.

Great news! Perhaps some Kelce comparisons will get thrown his way (another Cincinatti product). Looks like he also got a Shrine Game invite. Going to post the shrine game invitees soon.
 

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East West Shrine Game Invites so far:

QB - Kevin Davidson Princeton
QB - James Morgan FIU
QB - Tommy Stevens Miss St

WR - Mason Kinsey Berry
WR - Chris Finke Notre Dame

TE - Mitchell Wilcox USF
TE - Giovanni Ricci WMU
TE - Parker Houston SDSU

OT - Jake Benziner Wake Forest
OT - Jack Driscoll Auburn
OT - Alex Givens Ole Miss
OT - Charlie Heck UNC
OC - Luke Juriga WMU
OT - Evin Ksiezarzyk Buffalo
OG - John Phillips Boston College
OG - Sean Pollard Clemson
OC - Zach Shackelford Texas
OG - Simon Stepaniak Indiana

DE - Joe Gaziano Northwestern
DT - Garrett Marino UAB
DE - Bryce Sterk Montana St
DE - Derrek Tuszka North Dakota St

LB - Dante Olson Montana

FS - Austin Lee BYU
 
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Penn St DT Robert Windsor with a Senior Bowl Invite (12 out 70 announced invitees so far are white)

Notre Dame WR Chris Finke with an East West Shrine Game invite - Shrine Game might hold a little intrigue this year for prospects.

The initial rosters for both should pan out in a couple of weeks once all the affletic underclassmen declare and dilute the "talent" pool even further.
 

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Made some updates to the Shrine Game list.

Another QB note - Jacob Eason needs to stay in Washington for his senior year and put it all together - he is not ready to declare yet.
 
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