2015 Summer Transfers Thread

yes it's really a unique thing, it must have a significance, it is totally unexpected and illogical, everybody in france can't believe he was sold for this much
even if you assume that blacks are naturally good soccer players icon_lol like this league want to believe, martial can't be sold for anywhere near the same price as raheem sterling, who has accomplished more than martial, has played for england, has played in a "big" league, has been a starter in a "big" club, and is a local player

yet martial was sold for way more than sterling

i know there are other factors like the seasons left in the ongoing contract, but......:icon_eek:

frederic38 said:

yes it's really a unique thing, it must have a significance, it is totally unexpected and illogical, everybody in france can't believe he was sold for this much
even if you assume that blacks are naturally good soccer players icon_lol like this league want to believe, martial can't be sold for anywhere near the same price as raheem sterling, who has accomplished more than martial, has played for england, has played in a "big" league, has been a starter in a "big" club, and is a local player

yet martial was sold for way more than sterling

i know there are other factors like the seasons left in the ongoing contract, but......:icon_eek:

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Frankly - Van Gal must be breaking down mentally after a bad season start, and must be suffering from some sort psychological disorder. There is no other explanation for this stupendous waste of money.

Arsene Wenger doesn't sound impressed with Man United's new signing:

http://www.theguardian.com/football...-transfers-questions-80m-anthony-martial-deal

Wenger picked up Cech for a fraction of what Van Gaal is paying for Martial. Of course, Man United are hoping the teenager will blossom to play a big part in their future whereas Cech's best days are behind him. But even if they don't get that many years out of Cech they are not losing that much. If the unproven teenager doesn't work out at United it will be a major mistake.

frederic38 said:

yes it's really a unique thing, it must have a significance, it is totally unexpected and illogical, everybody in france can't believe he was sold for this much
even if you assume that blacks are naturally good soccer players icon_lol like this league want to believe, martial can't be sold for anywhere near the same price as raheem sterling, who has accomplished more than martial, has played for england, has played in a "big" league, has been a starter in a "big" club, and is a local player

yet martial was sold for way more than sterling

i know there are other factors like the seasons left in the ongoing contract, but......:icon_eek:

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This move is even more ridiculous after looking at these stats:

Martial has played 8 full matches (90'+) in his career.

Details (all with monaco) :

14th of December 2013, @Guingamp, ligue 1 (GW18), W(2-0), 1 goal

4th of February 2015, vs Bastia, Coupe de la Ligue SF (120'), L(0-0, 6-7 after penaltys, he kicked and scored the first penalty)
7th of April 2015, vs Montepellier, ligue 1 (GW25), D(0-0)
10th of April 2015, @Caen, ligue 1 (GW32), W(3-0), 1 goal, 1 assist
3rd of May 2015, vs Toulouse, ligue 1(GW35), W(4-1), 1 goal
19th of August 2015, @Valencia, UCL Playoff (first leg), L(1-3)
25th of August 2015, vs Valencia, UCL Playoff (second leg), W(2-1) Monaco is eliminated though
30th of August 2015, vs PSG, ligue 1 (GW4), L(0-3)

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After playing 8 full games,a black is worth 80million€

All right, this Martial deal has me completely baffled. I am asking now, because I legitimately wonder: which black striker has been the most successful in recent times and how much was/is he worth? Because with this sum, it seems to me like he would be the world's best black striker, although the odds for that would be... astronomical. The day he ends up in the "black flops" thread can't come fast enough.

frederic38 said:

no it's really 80 millions, no need to be overly technical because they are ashamed of what they paid

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actu...ester-united-c-est-80-millions-d-euros/586556

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Pour-80-millions-d-euros-t-as-martial-ou/586700

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That's 100% true,here's what RMC said about the addons :

€10m after 25 games for Manchester United.
€10m after 10 caps for the NT.
€10m if he's in the Ballon d'Or top 20.

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Well considering how other useless blacks like Balotelli got onto that Ballon d'Or shortlist,just because he was black,Man U will end up paying the whole 80€:censored:

Also according to Vadim Vasilyev, the man in charge at Monaco and the one who brokered the deal they will receive 100% of the agreed amount over the 4 year period.He was specifically asked about add ons, because English media have obviously been reporting that X million is purely in add ons, to which he responded by saying the only thing that can change is the date of the payments, and not the overall value of the transfer. So 4 years from now at the date of the final installment regardless of how well he does he will cost the full €80 million

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also, it has to be said that it is totally useless to buy a player this young if they pay him this much
the point of buying an unproven player is to take a gamble, hoping that he will turn out to be a star, so in the end you paid a small amount of money for your star player
if you pay this much, you might as well buy an accomplished player

ThePhilosopher said:

Wenger bemoans 'shortage' of strikers



Lol,you'll fill the youth systems with blacks,and persist with blacks flops and then bemoan a lack of quality:dodgy:.Look at the recent useless non-whites Wenger tried as a striker - Walcott,Welbeck,Maroune Chamakh(an Arab) and of course the black star,Gervinho.And he got shot of Bendtner,who was a decent backup.If he'd have spent that time,money on a white player,he wouldn't have been left with Giroud as his only dependable striking option.

But then this is now a worldwide phenomenon.There are really few world-class strikers out there,thanks to the anti-white policies pursued by these football clubs.Man U has one(and lets be honest,he seems to have lost interest lately),Man City have one(Aguero),Chelsea have one(Costa).On the continent,Real Madrid don't even have a decent striker,PSG have two in Ibrahimovic and Cavani(though none is really white),Falcao(owned by Monaco) seems lost,Bayern have one great striker(Lewandowski...whom Dortmund never replaced),there's Icardi at Inter(who should have moved),Juve have Mandzukic and only Barca have two great strikers - Messi and Suarez.

A lean talent pool indeed,considering how Guiseppe Rossi,Mario Gomez,Immobile and even Higuain(who will not even play in the CL this year) have all either moved to smaller clubs or have been off the radar recently.Tevez,Van Persie have semi-retired.

And the likes of Charlie Austin,Alexander Meier(Bundesliga's Top scorer last year,with 19 goals,despite not playing 7 league games),Max Kruse,Berardi will never be bought by big clubs,as they are white.:icon_cry:

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[h=1]Arsene Wenger blames high-quality pitches for lack of world class strikers[/h]

Arsene Wenger has blamed the high-quality pitches on which young footballers learn to play for a shortage of strikers across Europe that he regards as the most acute in recent history. Having failed this summer to find a suitable centre-forward, Wenger on Friday identified a wider trend of European nations producing vast quantities of creative midfielders at the expense of strikers and defenders. “We now produce good technical players because there are nice pitches,â€￾ said Wenger. • Wenger urges Arsenal fans to get behind the team “Before, you played in the park where you had to kick the ball up front and you had to fight. A boy of 12 who played against a boy of 16 had to be shrewd and push to get the ball. All those kinds of things have gone. The strikers are South American today. Europe doesn’t produce strikers anymore.â€￾ According to Wenger, the fact that so many South America players learn their game either on the streets or in public parks is actually to their benefit in developing specialist skills in certain positions.

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This guy has gone senile,and not being able to find a striker seems to have affected him quite a bit.
The problem of course,is a lack of white strikers.:icon_rolleyes:

There are no white stand-in strikers at the PL in the top teams,and very few in the lower reaches.The starting strikers are white of course...I mean they have to win games after all....but after that they all stockpile useless blacks.Only Chelsea have Falcao,who isn't even strictly white.Arsenal have Walcott,Chelsea have Remy,Tottenham have bought some French black and United now have Martial:lipsrsealed:.These back-ups will never make the grade and even their own managers will loathe to use them.And to top it all off,there seems to be some unwritten rule in the EPL,to only buy from France.There must be decent white strikers out there in Europe,who can develop into top players,but then going down that route will destroy the agenda.Then all that is left is to cry that there are no good strikers left.

ThePhilosopher said:

Arsene Wenger blames high-quality pitches for lack of world class strikers




This guy has gone senile,and not being able to find a striker seems to have affected him quite a bit.
The problem of course,is a lack of white strikers.:icon_rolleyes:

There are no white stand-in strikers at the PL in the top teams,and very few in the lower reaches.The starting strikers are white of course...I mean they have to win games after all....but after that they all stockpile useless blacks.Only Chelsea have Falcao,who isn't even strictly white.Arsenal have Walcott,Chelsea have Remy,Tottenham have bought some French black and United now have Martial:lipsrsealed:.These back-ups will never make the grade and even their own managers will loathe to use them.And to top it all off,there seems to be some unwritten rule in the EPL,to only buy from France.There must be decent white strikers out there in Europe,who can develop into top players,but then going down that route will destroy the agenda.Then all that is left is to cry that there are no good strikers left.

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This is the silliest excuse I've ever heard of. One big reason is of course the blatant preference for useless black strikers (except maybe in Spain), but even for Whites - you simply don't see White kids playing pickup football games in the streets the way they used up to 15-20 years ago. There is no spontaneity and fun anymore. Kids that want to play football today have to join a formal club or "academy". There they train 2-3 times a week (often not because they are having fun, but because dad is forcing them) and maybe play 1 game a week, then they go home to play video games on their Playstations - not really a great way for nurturing talents. When I was a kid we played a couple of hours a day almost every day, and from that "gang" of maybe 30-40 boys - several made it to semi-professional level, and one even managed to play professional games. It was our passion. Today is completely different.

In some formerly White countries not even enrolling a white kid in a formal team is a viable option. These teams tend to be overwhelmed by Black and Arab kids and simply are not a healthy and safe environment for a White boy.

No wonder most good strikers are coming from countries where you can still see White kids playing football in the streets, countries in Suothern/Eastern Europe (Spain, Portugal, the Balkans) or South America (Argentina, Uruguay). If they are from Western/Northern Europe, they tend to come from small towns or even rural areas.

[video=youtube;VURAFJ_WDMA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VURAFJ_WDMA[/video]

so many potential world class strikers there

Porthos said:

This is the silliest excuse I've ever heard of. One big reason is of course the blatant preference for useless black strikers

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While I agree with the rest of the content of your post,I think the one above is really the main factor responsible for this "Striker drought".You can refer to my other posts above,where I've done a fair bit of striker crunching,and the problem is that all the white strikers are taken,and of course jews and their anti-white managers will never agree that there is a demand for more.Exceptions aside(Torres and Soldado),whenever a white striker has been given a chance in the top teams in the EPL,he has delivered,triumphantly.The problem is,as everyone here knows,that white strikers don't get a chance at all,and have to prove themselves elsewhere.And once a white striker succeeds in a team,despite all odds(Harry Kane,),every other white player in that department will be purged off(Borini,Bendtner then and now Wilson at Manu along with Bamford at Chelsea).

Another reason why White strikers are few in the PL is because they become stagnant once they reach a certain level which is just below "world class",as no one will buy them,thereby depriving other white strikers in the lower leagues of their rightful chance to play in the PL,all in all causing a huge shortage.PL teams will simply look the other way when white strikers from lesser teams outperform every other black striker in the league(some who are paid 10 times more),along with the top white strikers sometimes.Look at Charlie Austin....he can't get an offer from a proper PL team(i.e. one with no chance of being relegated).Graziano Pelle scored 12 goals in his first season in the PL,is going to lead Italy at Euro '16,but can't have a PL team that finished higher even have a sniff at him.

Those two strikers really would have been perfect for every one of the following,but Arsenal went without buying,Chelsea took Falcao at astronomical wages,Spurs bought a no-name ni* and some dogeater,Man City already have had to depend on an 18 year old black,and I won't even mention ManU.They all chose to go short on numbers,instead of doing the blindingly obvious thing.