2014 NFL Draft

FootballDad said:

The detestable Merril Hoge just did a scathing critique of my avatar "hero" Jadeveon Clowney. Think what you want about Hoge, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut here and there, a broken clock is right twice a day, etc........

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Well if Clowney does make it in the NFL, it won't be because of his work ethic. I know from a very reliable source that Clowney does absolutely nothing as far as working out while he was at South Carolina. While most players were running, lifting, getting into shape, he did not, and was not, required to participate in drills.

Maybe Hoge as well as others are equally informed about his lack of work ethic!

Considering that black football (and basketball) players can loaf, be fat, commit serious crimes, have mediocre measurables and productivity and in other ways be total risks as employees yet still be lauded and drafted as top prospects, the affirmative action agenda in sports is more obvious and extreme than it is in the private and public workplace, yet very few people are able to see it thanks to the non-stop, never refuted media propaganda that props it up.

A "first round talent" who was somehow schooled by the overachieving Jared Abrederis is arrested again, but have no fear, he'll still be drafted early even though the NFL claims it cares about a player's "character."


Ohio State CB Bradley Roby was arrested and charged with operating a vehicle while impaired in Columbus, Ohio last weekend. It's a misdemeanor. According to Roby's agent, his blood-alcohol content was a "negligible .008," and he was "very quickly released on his own recognizance." It's a bigger issue than it otherwise might be because Roby was accused of battery last summer, though the charges were eventually dropped [amazing how often that happens when the accused is a black athlete]. Roby is a first-round talent who could slide to day two.

Didn't Roby give up 200 yards to Abbrederis? I remember the excuses for him after that game were almost immediate yet even though he is not as good as advertised and has a criminal history he is still considered a 1st or 2nd rounder while Abbrederis will be lucky to get drafted.

As far as Clowney is concerned, his whole career and draft stock has been propped up by the one play vs. Michigan in a bowl game two years ago. The reports of him being lazy and entitled do not surprise me at all.

Carolina Speed said:

While most players were running, lifting, getting into shape, he did not, and was not, required to participate in drills.

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What a special snowflake!

PamelaOC said:

It's difficult to like even black players who are genuinely good because every time one is, he gets hyped up by the Caste media as if he's TEH GREATEST EVAH instead of receiving praise in proportion to his true abilities. Their attempt to make us like black athletes is backfiring.

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Some of the excessive praise for black athletes can be harmful to them.

For example, a black player gets an inflated opinion of himself and declares for the draft as an underclassman when he's not ready. He ends up not making it in the NFL whereas if he had waited and developed more in college he could have increased his chances of sticking on a roster.

Carolina Speed said:

Well if Clowney does make it in the NFL, it won't be because of his work ethic. I know from a very reliable source that Clowney does absolutely nothing as far as working out while he was at South Carolina. While most players were running, lifting, getting into shape, he did not, and was not, required to participate in drills.

Maybe Hoge as well as others are equally informed about his lack of work ethic!

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If I had the number 1 pick I wouldn't use it to pick a player with a suspect work ethic and attitude. I wouldn't invest millions of dollars in such a player.

If I were the Texans I would take Manziel or Bortles. If not a quarterback I would take Matthews. You can build an offense around a franchise left tackle.

Leonardfan said:

Didn't Roby give up 200 yards to Abbrederis? I remember the excuses for him after that game were almost immediate yet even though he is not as good as advertised and has a criminal history he is still considered a 1st or 2nd rounder while Abbrederis will be lucky to get drafted.

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Some team is going to get a bargain with Abbrederis as he will be drafted lower than he deserves to be, if he's drafted at all.

If you look at Abbrederis's ability and think there's no way he won't get drafted, remember, this is the anti-white NFL. It's possible.

The sports media is hyping Logan Thomas, a QB who never threw for over 60% in any year in college and had a 16 to 13 TD to INT ratio in his last season.

He's being promoted as being as good a prospect as Mettenberger and Savage, which he is not.

Thomas is a non-prospect, not worth drafting. Any team that drafts him is wasting a draft pick. You might as well pass with your pick.

The only reason Thomas is being hyped is because he's black. If Thomas was white he'd barely be mentioned in the draft coverage.

The mainstream sports media has a black supremacist and anti-white agenda. They want to replace whites with blacks and deny opportunities to white men.

Extra Point said:

Some team is going to get a bargain with Abbrederis as he will be drafted lower than he deserves to be, if he's drafted at all.

If you look at Abbrederis's ability and think there's no way he won't get drafted, remember, this is the anti-white NFL. It's possible.

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I hope he is drafted but last year with guys like Vernon and Swope getting screwed over I have no faith in Abbrederis getting a fair shake.

Leonardfan said:

I hope he is drafted but last year with guys like Vernon and Swope getting screwed over I have no faith in Abbrederis getting a fair shake.

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The Swope thing is still one of the most fishy, and strange situations in recent memory.

Wes Woodhead said:

The Swope thing is still one of the most fishy, and strange situations in recent memory.

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It really did suck the way it turned out. Swope was one of the most talented receivers coming out. I am glad to see him doing well in another career, but part of me hopes one day soon he'll have the urge to try out again. It would be nice to see him play again.

Carolina Speed said:

I remember speaking on the phone with Louisiana's big time high school football recruiting guru, I can't remember his name, maybe you know who I'm talking about dwid. He said there were 3 or 4 white RB's in Louisiana alone that should be D-1 type backs, 5'11-6'0 200lbs., 4.5 40, but that they would never get D-1 scholarships, just wasn't going to happen. I asked him so how did Hester make it, but forgot what he said, something to the fact he was lucky.

He said the same thing about Rex Burkhead. Burkhead had only 1 D-1 AA offer from N. Texas and then Pellini got the job at Nebraska and offered Burkhead, just luck or we may never have heard about him either.

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I wonder how much influence Pelini had with Hester at LSU, he was the Defensive coordinator but kind of odd that Hester was given a chance to play tailback and then Pelini goes to Nebraska and offers Burkhead and makes him a featured back.

Wes Woodhead said:

The Swope thing is still one of the most fishy, and strange situations in recent memory.

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yeah in recent memory, as more people are waking up and realizing Whites can compete at least at wideout they want to make us look fragile with concussion issues after Austin Collie had a few. Notice how they make a big deal about every White receiver getting a concussion, like Welker getting two minor ones last year, the first two of his career and then playing it up.

But the list is huge, I don't know how many people have read this article but it was a good article I remember reading when first joining by Jimmy Chitwood:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...ithout-the-Caste-System?highlight=abram+booty

has a list of White receivers screwed over, a search on Abram Booty is how I got there, a former standout at LSU that burned SEC defenses as a sophomore got an injury transferred to a smaller school, not really any NFL interest, offer to NFL europe but he declined. I think he held the national receiving record? or is at least top 5 at the moment. I know he had the state record, I think another White receiver is going to break it, Trey Quinn. Booty did it when teams weren't as pass happy though. Still that would put two White guys in the top 5 for high school receiving records. Booty is top 5 for tds as well. Edit: nevermind Quinn did break it, just searched the forum : "Overall, Quinn concluded his career with 357 catches (3rd nationally) for 6,566 yards (1st nationally) for 70 TDs (4th nationally).....+ 16 rushing TD's & KO Ret =87!""

Now that list goes up to 2007 back to 93, with some missing like he mentioned, since info from the 90's isn't as easy to get.

Extra Point said:

Some team is going to get a bargain with Abbrederis as he will be drafted lower than he deserves to be, if he's drafted at all.

If you look at Abbrederis's ability and think there's no way he won't get drafted, remember, this is the anti-white NFL. It's possible.

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He didn't play in the Senior Bowl due to injury but he drew a lot of praise during its practices. Had he not been injured, I'm sure his stock would have improved. I'm optimistic that he will get drafted regardless. Green Bay and New England are obvious fits, but Green Bay has a greater need for a new WR3/4.

Extra Point said:

The sports media is hyping Logan Thomas, a QB who never threw for over 60% in any year in college and had a 16 to 13 TD to INT ratio in his last season.

He's being promoted as being as good a prospect as Mettenberger and Savage, which he is not.

Thomas is a non-prospect, not worth drafting. Any team that drafts him is wasting a draft pick. You might as well pass with your pick.

The only reason Thomas is being hyped is because he's black. If Thomas was white he'd barely be mentioned in the draft coverage.

The mainstream sports media has a black supremacist and anti-white agenda. They want to replace whites with blacks and deny opportunities to white men.

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Thomas does have good measurable skills in terms of speed and arm strength but a huge number of scouts and GMs have extreme cognitive dissonance. He would make for a good tight end but position changes are only suggested for whites. He's obviously not capable as a quarterback. Alas, the incessant chatter of UPSIDE continues on without question.

I believe that if the "light" (as they like to call it) doesn't come on by the time a player reaches the pros, 99 times out of 100, it never will. This is why drafting a prospect based on upside is a foolish thing to do. I haven't done any statistical analysis of this, but I believe that players with long, successful college careers make for better pros than inexperienced, unsuccessful to marginally successful college players with "upside." Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Andrew Luck, Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger are all excellent white quarterbacks who had 3 or 4 excellent seasons at the college level.

Logan Thomas has shown nothing to prove that he's deserving of the job as an NFL starting quarterback and he had 3 seasons to do so. I hope the team stupid enough to draft him as a quarterback is stupid enough to start him as a quarterback. I look forward to their eventual #1 overall selection where they will take yet another overrated afflete.

goyim said:

Thomas does have good measurable skills in terms of speed and arm strength but a huge number of scouts and GMs have extreme cognitive dissonance. He would make for a good tight end but position changes are only suggested for whites. He's obviously not capable as a quarterback. Alas, the incessant chatter of UPSIDE continues on without question.

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I think there's a black supremacist stereotype at work here. The stereotype is that all blacks are good athletes. So what's the explanation if blacks don't play well? Simple, they haven't developed their "talent." Therefore, a black who underperforms athletically has "upside."

Conversely there is a stereotype of white athletes. The stereotype holds that white are not good athletes. So they have no talent to develop. Therefore they have no upside.

I believe that if the "light" (as they like to call it) doesn't come on by the time a player reaches the pros, 99 times out of 100, it never will. This is why drafting a prospect based on upside is a foolish thing to do. I haven't done any statistical analysis of this, but I believe that players with long, successful college careers make for better pros than inexperienced, unsuccessful to marginally successful college players with "upside."

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A good predictor of future success is past success.

I'd rather have a player such as McCarron, who had great success over a player such as Thomas, who has all the physical tools but mediocre success, if I was a pro team.

Logan Thomas has shown nothing to prove that he's deserving of the job as an NFL starting quarterback and he had 3 seasons to do so.

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He doesn't deserve a job as an NFL backup either, though he'll probably get one. If I were a GM I wouldn't waste a draft pick on him.

I think a lot of this Logan Thomas chatter is being created by the dwfs and amateur draftniks. I am sure some team may be dumb enough to draft him early but it will be a wasted drafted pick as Thomas has shown time and again that he is unable to throw with any consistent accuracy whatsoever.

Leonardfan said:

I think a lot of this Logan Thomas chatter is being created by the dwfs and amateur draftniks. I am sure some team may be dumb enough to draft him early but it will be a wasted drafted pick as Thomas has shown time and again that he is unable to throw with any consistent accuracy whatsoever.

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All the Logan Thomas chatter started at the same time. Perhaps the word came down from the powers that be that the media outlets were to hype the negro Logan Thomas.

Extra Point said:

All the Logan Thomas chatter started at the same time. Perhaps the word came down from the powers that be that the media outlets were to hype the negro Logan Thomas.

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I think its more obviously than perhaps. The controlled media is in sudden lock step.

Extra Point said:

Some team is going to get a bargain with Abbrederis as he will be drafted lower than he deserves to be, if he's drafted at all.

If you look at Abbrederis's ability and think there's no way he won't get drafted, remember, this is the anti-white NFL. It's possible.

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This time last year we were expecting Ryan Swope to be drafted in the second, third or fourth round. We know how that turned out, followed by the mysterious never explained concussion that he supposedly suffered during non-contact drills followed by his abrupt retirement from football.

Surprisingly Mel Kiper has LB Chris Borland as his 2nd Round Steal....& in his Top 25 overall. And to challenge for Defensive Rookie of the Year next season; like another 2nd Rounder Kiko Alonso did last season.


This is about what we said earlier about Borland...a 1st Round Talent... only his sub 6'-0" height is holding him back dropping him into the 2nd.

Don Wassall said:

This time last year we were expecting Ryan Swope to be drafted in the second, third or fourth round. We know how that turned out, followed by the mysterious never explained concussion that he supposedly suffered during non-contact drills followed by his abrupt retirement from football.

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Was really hoping he would make a return this season; has anyone heard any news on Swope?

Upside said:

Was really hoping he would make a return this season; has anyone heard any news on Swope?

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He's done with football; there's a recent update on him in the Swope thread.

Don Wassall said:

This time last year we were expecting Ryan Swope to be drafted in the second, third or fourth round. We know how that turned out, followed by the mysterious never explained concussion that he supposedly suffered during non-contact drills followed by his abrupt retirement from football.

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I'm not a :tinfoil3: but I always found the Swope situation to be a little off.

Pamela,agreed there.

Dan Sorensen and Tanner Miller are 2 draftable safeties. Seen a lot of hype around Dartmouth safety Garette Waggoner as well.