Fox's Clownish, quota black, coverage of the Champions League Final

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Yesterday, Fox decided to do the unthinkable for the UEFA Champions League Final. They picked Curt Menefee and Gus Johnson, two quota black NFL American Football commentators do the pregame show and the match. This is just unheard of in the U.S. All of the soccer channels and international matches in the U.S. are hosted by either former American or European international players - people that can actually provide insight and know the game.

This is the epitome of cultural marxism and the stupidity of American media. These clowns no absolutely nothing about soccer. Can you imagine NBC picking hockey commentators to do play-by-play of NBA basketball?


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The funniest part of all this was reading people's reactions on Twitter. As you can image, most soccer fans in the U.S didn't take to these quote blacks very well.


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The Cultural Marxist regime has anointed blacks as the master race in the U.S. when it comes to announcing (well, second to Jews, but no one is allowed to notice when Jews are over-represented in anything lest they immediately be branded a nazi).

Blacks are disproportionately represented as announcers and studio analysts in virtually every sport, including ones where they're almost non-existent in the sport itself, e.g. tennis, golf and hockey. Unstoppable athletes on the field of play, unbeatable off the field when it comes to announcing and color commentary, so goes the script of the great American matrix/fairy tale. And curiously, hispanics, Asians and other minorities need not apply for these types of jobs, only blacks, always well known for their peerless command and articulation of the English language.
 

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I was laughing during the play-by-play as the commentator was so awful. I didn't know he was black. The analyst - the Englishman - was OK but the shouting from the play-by-play guy was sometimes unintelligible and it was so bad it was quite funny at times.

As for Curt Menefee I think he did it last year too. He's not even good at NFL never mind soccer.

I don't like many commentators. I must be the only person in the world who doesn't like Martin Tyler. This year I watched a number of Serie A games in Italian, a language I do not speak. Some of them just named the players touching the ball and occasionally said things like "cross" but a few of them, including a female commentator, just talked non-stop from the moment the players entered the stadium. Sometimes there'd be constant talking to the point where I got a headache just listening to them.

The most bizarre colour analyst I've heard is Ray Hudson, now with beIN Sport. Here are excerpts of him during Copa America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS6Np-g_h5w

And here he freaks out after a Ronaldo free kick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQaa86QkO6k
 

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"And curiously, hispanics, Asians and other minorities need not apply for these types of [COLOR=#009900 !important]jobs[/COLOR], only blacks, always well known for their peerless command and articulation of the English language."

I haven't seen any hispanics on ESPN, but now I have seen 2 Indians. So they are way over represented. There are a ton of hispanics in this country, but still very few Indians. Why so many then on ESPN?


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I don't like many commentators. I must be the only [COLOR=#009900 !important]person[/COLOR] in the world who doesn't like Martin Tyler."

I don't really like Tyler either. He always seems like he is out of breath.

Most announcers get on my nerves now too. How about just the basics with no color guy trying to show how much he knows about the sport and what each player did wrong etc.. I am sick of hearing he should have done better or where's the marking during soccer games.

I like how the BBC does their FA CUP games with only 1 announcer.

Ian DArke, who a lot of people like, gets on my nerves too. He give way too many tidbits abut players.

I don't mind Clive Tyldesley, but many people don't like him.
 

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" (well, second to Jews, but no one is allowed to notice when Jews are over-represented in anything lest they immediately be branded a nazi). "

Our local 24 hour sports radio station has many Jews on it. There was a Jewish guy who was just hired and a guy got through and said something like oh another Jew on the station. It got through before they could cut it off.

Another guy got through and said, " all the Jews get paid to go watch sporting events." Somebody wasn't paying attention and that got through before the caller was cut off.
 

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watch a lot of matches, most of them on the internet now that there are almost no soccer matches on french public TV anymore, so i heard most of the commentators mentioned in this thread

i paid attention when watching soccer matches on FOX because i remember that europe mentioned that they had a black former US football player to comment on champions league matches

my favourite commentators are portugal's depressed commentators
 

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I think the colour analyst with the English accent might have been ex-Arsenal player Ian Wright. If true then that means an all black booth along with Menefee as the presenter. I didn't actually recognise Wright's' voice but from what I recall from the 90s he's one of the last ex-footballers I'd even consider for a job that involves speaking.

Meanwhile from Sam Borden in the NY Times (May 24):

Johnson is a self-admitted soccer novice — “I didn’t know a 4-4-2 from a 747 when I started this,” he said — so creating the boards has become a critical part of his preparation.

Would Fox, or any other US network send a commentator to a basketball or baseball game who knew as little about those sports as Gus Johnson does about soccer? Obviously not.

He began digging through the markers, searching for a few other colors. As he did, he fell into what has become his way to pass the time this week: rattling off the names of the players, drawing out their pronunciations in an attempt to train his tongue.

“Ilya GOON-de-wahn. GOON-de-wahn. GOON-de-wahn,” he said, referring to Ilkay Gündogan, a Dortmund midfielder. He kept going. “Schweinsteiger. Le-van-doski. Subotic. Subotic. Subotic. Schmelzer. Schmelzer. Schmelzer. Santana. That’s easy.”


He hesitated. “PEEZ-check. PEEZ-check. Blaszczykowski. Yup, that’s going to be the tough one,” he said. “That and Grosskreutz.”

As a waiter brought a soda, Johnson said the Dortmund player’s name several more times. “GROSS-kroitz. GROSS-kroitz. GROSS-kroitz,” he said. Finally, he looked around, laughing. “Look at this,” he said. “We got Austrian, Spanish, Swiss, French, Croatian. I’m like James Bond over here.”

Earlier this year, Johnson was viciously criticized on social media after he repeatedly mispronounced Barcelona midfielder Andrés Iniesta’s name in a match (as EE-ya-nesta), and he takes responsibility for the misstep. If anything, it has motivated him to work harder as he readies himself to call a game that is the rough equivalent of soccer’s Super Bowl, if the Super Bowl routinely featured players with multiple Z’s, umlauts and diereses in their names.


He shrugged and cackled. “Could I get a Smith from Detroit? Please?”

I think I need a facepalm smiley here! It gets worse.

Johnson pointed to his boards. “I’m doing Dortmund now and I think they’re going to wear the yellow-and-black uniforms, so I want to do this side in the bumblebee,” he said.

Though I don't know for sure I'm guessing Borussia Dortmund wore yellow and black every time they played Bayern this year, whether at home or away. That he had to put his Dortmund players in yellow and black on his board so he could remember who they played for is comical.

He was surprised when Fox suggested to him that he cover soccer:

Johnson, understandably, was unsure... But Nick Bernstein, a close friend of his since the late 1990s, and others encouraged him to accept the challenge. The network was clearly taking a risk, eschewing a British voice or an established American soccer announcer like J. P. Dellacamera in the hope that Johnson would develop quickly and become its signature voice on soccer.

So it was our friends in Corporate America whose idea it was that this soccer novice should leap over all the other commentators who actually know the game and have been paying their dues covering less important matches for years. A clear case of affirmative action.

Bernstein signed a part-time contract with Fox (he said his title was associate producer), and he is essentially Johnson’s right-hand man: tutor, counselor, study guide preparer, fact checker.

They spent much of their first flight to Europe more than a year ago wading through a five-page memo produced by Sky Sports on soccer’s murky offside law. They muddled through the first few broadcasts with Bernstein continually sliding pieces of paper in front of Johnson as prompts.

What an insult to every soccer fan in America.

There is an element of loneliness to Johnson’s new job.

When he was doing the N.C.A.A. tournament, if he sat in a coffee shop in Louisville or Kansas City, fans would come up to him and shout one of his catchphrases like “Rise and fire!” or “I get buckets!” Johnson loved it.

Ole Gus loves his DWFs!

Like many American journalists and broadcasters, Johnson quickly realized that working conditions in Europe are far different from those in the United States. Climate-controlled press boxes with midfield views are rare; at Camp Nou, Barcelona’s stadium, Johnson and other commentators were essentially on the roof, and a large speaker next to Johnson partly obscured his view.

Hmm. No air conditioning. On the roof with an obscured view. I hope racism isn't the reason for this shabby treatment of an American superstar.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/25/s...st-of-soccer-final.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hpw
 
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I think the colour analyst with the English accent might have been ex-Arsenal player Ian Wright. If true then that means an all black booth along with Menefee as the presenter. I didn't actually recognise Wright's' voice but from what I recall from the 90s he's one of the last ex-footballers I'd even consider for a job that involves speaking.

Meanwhile from Sam Borden in the NY Times (May 24):



Would Fox, or any other US network send a commentator to a basketball or baseball game who knew as little about those sports as Gus Johnson does about soccer? Obviously not.



I think I need a facepalm smiley here! It gets worse.



Though I don't know for sure I'm guessing Borussia Dortmund wore yellow and black every time they played Bayern this year, whether at home or away. That he had to put his Dortmund players in yellow and black on his board so he could remember who they played for is comical.

He was surprised when Fox suggested to him that he cover soccer:



So it was our friends in Corporate America whose idea it was that this soccer novice should leap over all the other commentators who actually know the game and have been paying their dues covering less important matches for years. A clear case of affirmative action.



What an insult to every soccer fan in America.



Ole Gus loves his DWFs!



Hmm. No air conditioning. On the roof with an obscured view. I hope racism isn't the reason for this shabby treatment of an American superstar.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/25/s...st-of-soccer-final.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hpw



The analyst for the final was Warren Barton, a white former Newcastle player.

Wright called the FA Cup Final with Gus.
 

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Thanks. As mentioned I didn't think it sounded like Wright and he didn't seem to talk much but my search only turned up Wright's name. Again, I haven't heard Wright speaking since maybe the 90s but assuming he speaks the same way today Fox should consider elocution and basic grammar lessons for him. Wright could turn out to be worse than Tommy "bulge in the old onion bag" Smyth.
 
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